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sonofluc1fer:
It makes sense, spiritually.

Faith is more powerful than logic. Without faith, how else will you believe an Israelite died for sins you never committed. Say one Adam for one garden for the middle east vex im god, so all the human beings wey full dis world come dey sin, God come send im pikin to die for us, so im fit forgive us.

Faith - the power by which bullshit makes sense. And it's an awesome, awesome drug.... cures all spiritual and physical maladies.. all.. if it doesn't cure yours, check your dosage.

sonofluc1fer:
It makes sense, spiritually.

Faith is more powerful than logic. Without faith, how else will you believe an Israelite died for sins you never committed. Say one Adam for one garden for the middle east vex im god, so all the human beings wey full dis world come dey sin, God come send im pikin to die for us, so im fit forgive us.

Faith - the power by which bullshit makes sense. And it's an awesome, awesome drug.... cures all spiritual and physical maladies.. all.. if it doesn't cure yours, check your dosage.

Tohzara:
Lol.

You people have a very warped and ridiculous concept of enlightenment, civilization and intelligence.

I'm neither polite nor politically correct, and it's neither a vice nor a flaw. I'll tell you the fücking truth. Forget all that emotional shiit.

Politeness isn't analogous to enlightenment.

vaxx:
you see your issue. you guys are narrow minded, defining faith base on religious meaning. will you guys think out of the box for once

sonofluc1fer:
Faith is the basis of religion, without faith, no one can see God. lol. thinking outside the box doesn't include giving words new meaning.

Tohzara:
If the universe is eternal, it's its own cause, and a first cause becomes superflous and meaningless.

Tohzara:
Creation out of nothing is impossible

Tohzara:
There's no such thing as nothingness. Nothingness is meanigless and undefined.
It is NOTHING (!)

Tohzara:
Which God?
No argument so far has been able to establish his existence.
Your house of cards just keep collapsing

Tohzara:
The universe doesn't have a designer.
It is self-propelling.

Tohzara:
You can rap.

modik:
The same way a building questions the builder why reconstruct me, or the pot questioning the Potter, why break me?


Isiah 29:16
Lol.

Ronpet777:
Wot u term save, is a very subjective term, because death can be bad and yet a blessing. God doesn't see death d way u see it. Death is birth for a true believer but torment for a God hater. Tell me y u reject God. When all he commands us is d display of love, kindness, humility, forgiveness, generosity.

Honestly, this arguments shldnt be taking place if not for d inherent hatred d atheists posses that makes them detest religion and rebel against it with mad anger. They don't mind reading d whole of d Bible over and over just to pick holes.Wot then do u achieve? When u successfully confuse a Christian, what do u point him to instead? It amazes me cos u r pple with large vacuums inside of u who r crazily looking for answers to d numerous questions Lurking in ur head about existence.Y do u wish to bring pple who hv reasons to live, motivations for life and purpose for existence into ur strange world of confusion and unending questions abt ur basic existence?
I have God, I hv bliss, and no unending questions ,pls provide me with an alternative to God. Give me ur version of d world and reasons for existence. Show me d way since u knw better.

ZirdoRoray:
Are you sure? Don't forget God commands Ezekiel to eat human faeces. I'm sure anything can happen there since your God is extremely hot-tempered.

Ezekiel: 4. 12. And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.

ZirdoRoray:
The universal premise for the existence of yahweh is flawlessness, consistent dents in this quality proves he is just a figment of man's imagination and he is non-existant. The Jewish only tried to personify the cosmos as a Universal Male God.
I gave strong points to support my argument but it seems you don't want to employ logic here.

Tohzara:
The man who designed the website IS EXTREMELY MORE COMPLEX THAN THE WEBSITE, therefore the God who designed the universe MUST BE ENORMOUSLY MORE COMPLEX THAN THE UNIVERSE TOO, and if complexity implies design, who designed the one who designed the universe? And who designed whoever designed that one too? Don't you get it? This argument is dead----it kills itself deader than the coldest corpse

What's more, I told you earlier that the universe is an entirely different ball game, compared to the website. Man created the website from already existing raw materials. Did God create the universe from pre-existing materials that he didn't create out of the blue----out of absolutely nothing?

The OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE is proven to have a beginning. The universe might go beyond that. The universe created at the Big Bang might just be the transformation of pre-existing energy of a completely different form, changing into a new form, AND THE BIG BANG WAS THE BEGINNING OF THAT FORM, not necessarily the beginning of THE UNIVERSE. The universe can be eternal

Does this COMPLEX DESIGNER (he MUST be) also have a designer, and does his designer have a designer too? This dead argument will ALWAYS summon an infinite regress, and there can be NO SPECIAL PLEADING

The universe might have MIND FUNDAMENTAL TO IT. It gave rise to beings with consciousness and intelligence. How can a system which is at root MINDLESS achieve that? The universe can have its own mind.

vaxx:
The issue with you as a person is your ability to accept we have individual differences, and if that is not the case we will not be having a forum like this. your inability to tolerate each individual difference keep you thinking you are enlightened,of which the reverse is the case. but when evidence is thrown at your face, you rather turn it to insult, instead of you to just learn and see maybe you can even make sense from the nonsense your presume unenlightened folks is saying. guy learn to be cautious, it will not take a drop from your self hyped wisdom

FeelDeMusic:
I have five words to say about all this.... this thread is fucking pointless.

Live and let live folks, let us be tolerant and let's not start senseless and alarming virtual fights just because one person believes in God and the other doesn't. Let's not insult, let's not defame, let's not scream. In fact, let's just end this entire thread for all I care.

vaxx:
i reason with you too... but the reason initially for this discussion is to provoke rational thought...which i think is good for the brain.....however they are people here that already have the notion that theist most be foolish to be religious....if you read up you can even see some kind of tag attached to theist...

ZirdoRoray:
Logic is very difficult just have Faith. FYI it's the unending employment of logic that keeps advancing humanity not blind Faith in the sky-daddy who will punish you forever because you had a romance with your girlfriend.

Tohzara:
Yeah, yeah, yeah........ I can see all my posts on this thread are filled with insults, indeed.

Please, if you're too sensitive, don't type nonsense on a public forum. If you say something stupid and I call it stupid, there's nothing wrong in that.

If I glorify others for making sense, I should vilify you for saying crap.

sonofluc1fer:
Well, you can't really blame us. faithfool acts are mere foolishness to the faithless.
https://www.nigeriafilms.com/nfc-image/lco.jpg
https://www.tori.ng/userfiles/image/2016/sep/16/Lords-chosen.jpg

Tohzara:
If the universe is eternal, then there's no need for an eternal creator. An eternal thing BY DEFINITION has no creator. So an eternal creator and an eternal universe coexisting is a contradiction----an irreconcilable paradox.

If the universe is everything, and it is in itself eternal----then EVERYTHING EXISTS IN THE UNIVERSE.

sonofluc1fer:
Well, you can't really blame us. faithfool acts are mere foolishness to the faithless.
https://www.nigeriafilms.com/nfc-image/lco.jpg
https://www.tori.ng/userfiles/image/2016/sep/16/Lords-chosen.jpg

butterflyl1on:
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Plus on the flip side, the creator of the universe as described from scripture is said to have no beginning and no end which totally tallies with what science says caused the Big Bang and subscribes to what I just typed above so science itself does not subscribe to infinite regress. That's one of your missiles shot down.

Elthugnificent:
I have finally seen it all.

Ronpet777:
how did d world evolve in precise terms?

butterflyl1on:
Please people who possess intelligence are having a dialogue. It's easy to pick out the unintelligent under such conditions because in the midst of serious talk they simply end up cavorting and acting like a court Jester in every corner.

We have seen your Court Jestering skills despite making no advert that we needed a Jester on this thread. I know your hustle is real but even hustlers do so in upgraded ways these days.

Go back and prepare your Court Jestering CV in an intelligent manner so that when you present it again, it would be with panache and with an umph alright?

Cheers!

modik:
The God-concept defies human logic.

Its akin to a robot questioning the logic of the robotic engineer!

Isn't that silly to start with?

He who fashioned you and gave you wisdom is wiser than you hence highest of your logical premise is foolishness to your maker.

butterflyl1on:
Please people who possess intelligence are having a dialogue. It's easy to pick out the unintelligent under such conditions because in the midst of serious talk they simply end up cavorting and acting like a court Jester in every corner.

FeelDeMusic:
It's not that I'm not spiritual in the sense that I don't believe in a god of some kind. It's the fact that people fight and quarrel like this about things that really shouldn't be fought over. It's stupid to me, especially when religion is brought into it.

sonofluc1fer:


as in,, that one eneter well. See as the mumu come form born again, dey speak UN grammar on top NL thread. lmao.. these Christians are just disgusting vile hypocrites.

sonofluc1fer:
In the beginning, something began. and became, then blossomed into a radial spike, rotating, floating in near-emptiness.

As it floated towards infinity, there was a great shaking within, and a voice said "Up Nepa"

and there was light, spread all out across the universe. The Voice saw all of space and in excitement hummed a sweet tune. Thus the planets began to form, rocks split from rocks, water sprung from split rocks, and the planets became.

Thus, in the beginning, there was One, and from that One, came all.

Without One, there can be none. The One with the voice gave each planet a destiny ...'orbit and rotate around thy axis, dance around this great ball of fire, float in near-emptiness'

And so they continued to float endlessly, towards infinity forever. Getting old and bored of the whole purposelessness of the rotation, The One chose a planet upon which he'd plant his seed. This seed he called Mania, in Ancient Edotic tongue. Mania were the first seed of The One upon earth, created to multiply and conquer.

The One, looking unto Mania said, "thou art my seed, my one and very within. What I do, you can do. Go out and create".

And The One built a place in the heart of Mania, a space only he could fill. And fill it he did.

I hope this is a better story than that dead Jewish one. No females to hate. Or gays to kill. Just a cool creation story.

dalaman:
Why do you tell lies ALWAYS? What did science say caused the Big bang? Where does science ever address the cause of the big bang or address it's nature? Continue lying shamelessly for Jesus, he must be very proud.