GoodMuyis:


P2=>As per You converting (repenting) its not by Compulsion. Pharaoh experience 10 wonder/sign and he repented severally within the space of the manifestation of the 10 sign but at last perish.

P3=> Heaven is more than where people where white and signs, its a place where Ultra-Advance-Supersonic HiTech is seen as common lifestyle, you wont understand this.

dalaman:


My problem is you is that you LOVE telling lies always and love presenting your own alternate reality always as of its true when everybody knows it's a lie except you. Let's examine all the lies you've spewed and see if they make any sense.



Where is the togetherness in Christianity today? Are catholics for example united with the non catholics? Do they share the same beliefs and do things together? So far catholics openly condemn non catholics and vice versa. Do the Greek othrodox even agree with the pentacoastals? They have different bibles with different and additional books. Do they even marry each other? Will a Seven day adventist marry a Catholic? Go and read the seven day adventist publication and see how they castigate and berate the catholics daily. There is NO unity amongst christians thatbisbwhy why there are different sects each with their own different theology and doctrines everywhere. Pastors are always at each other's neck. The only thing they are united at is using the name of Jesus to expliot people. There is no unity in Christianity, if there is the madness and confusion we see today will not exist.



Yes it can. Muslims since inception have been very brutal and violent against each other. They kill each other always (shites and Sunnis ) but the religion is projected and expected to out grow every other religious group in 60 years to become the biggest religious group on earth. It is currently the fastest growing religion on earth despite the inherent confusion and chaos that exist btw it's two major sects.

But then the reality is that within Christianity and Islam each sect is growing on its own. Catholics are growing, protestants are growing, Sunnis are growing as well as shites but because we all sum them up as muslims and christians we all at the end claim that the religion is growing.



You are a shameless LIAR. Christianity did NOT begin because the authorities that be wanted to had a unified desire to assist human beings. Christianity spread because the Roman empire wanted to conquer the world and wanted everybody to also forcefullyconvert to their religion. The biggest religionthat was spread through conquest in the history of humanity remains christianity. Millions were killed in the name of Jesus because they had to be forcefully converted. We have the correspondence btw the conquistadors and how they brutally had to convert the Mayans and the Aztecs to Christianity by force for example. Even here in African it was convert or die in some places. Many of our ancestors that rejected were banished or killed.
Today the quest has changed from killing and converting people by force to exploitation. Convert and bring your money to enrich the pastors is what is going on now.



If you are the only super power of your time and you go about conquering and annexing territoriesand forcing the people to convert to your only state religion you will gain a lot of converts over time. That was exactly what the Romans did with christianity.



There are followers belonging and converting to the various sects with different doctrines that all fall under the umbrella group known as christianity but when you look close they are very different groups each with their varied set of beliefs. There is no universally accepted christian doctrine any where.




This remains a lie. Go to any thread where catholics and protestants are slugging it out and tell me if they don't hate each other. In fact Catholicsand protestants fought the wars of the reformation in Europe that lasted over 200 years and killed about 11 million people according to some estimates.

We don't even have to go far. Here on nairaland I can easily show you were people like KingEbukasBlog, Winner, Oladegbu, and others have stated that catholics are not christians but agents of Satan. I have once quoted KingEbukasBlog on that to show him his hypocrisy when he said catholics are agents of Satan.

You don't call people whom you seek to spiritualknowledge from agents of Satan do you. Go to the tithe threads and see the way christians call each other names. Your man Felixmoron is a known culprit, he condemns and threatens his fellow hristians with hell sef over disagreements.



You rock over what? Your endless schism and disagreements or what? Cam you go and preach as a visiting preacher in a Catholic church? Will your church allow a Jehovah witness preacher to come and preach on your church? Will a Seven day adventist allow a white garment wearing christian to go and preach in their church? Will an Ethopinion or maronite christian alow you to stand on their pulpit and preach to them as a visiting preacher? So which rocking are you talking about Mr lie lie .

modik:


Ezk 28:15
Origin of iniquity.

ZirdoRoray:

How did the iniquity originate itself to enter in to man. If nothing else can exist beside God and sin didn't come from God?

Don't forget your God loves seeing his prophet eat his faeces.. Ezekiel: 4. 12. And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.

Seun:
If God owned Nairaland, he would not operate any account on Nairaland.

He would communicate the rules by sending anonymous messages to random members, the chosen.

The rules presented by each chosen member would contradict the rules presented by the others.

There would be no way of knowing which chosen member had the correct rules.

People would just choose to follow whichever rules the person who invited them to the forum happened to follow.

There would be brutal thread-wars between the people following different sets of rules.

For each set of rules given by the chosen members, there would be multiple interpretations by random members.

The interpreters would claim to have received anonymous clues from the owner which they used to interpret the rules.

There would be brutal thread-wars between people following different interpretations of each set of rules.

Most of the chosen would have deleted their accounts and all posts in which they originally presented their rules.

There would be multiple versions of each set of rules floating about, with no way of knowing if any is correct.

People who broke the rules wouldn't be banned, because the chosen and the interpreters wouldn't have any actual powers.

Interpreters will threaten those who break their rules that the owner will kill them after they deactivate their accounts.

The most famous interpreter would say that all rules are equally important: typos and posting porn pictures are the same.

That all members have broken the rules, so they deserve to be killed by the owner after they deactivate their accounts.

--

But there's good news: the owner's son joined the forum, and he presented his own version of the rules.

Though he was the only member who never broke any rule, his account was deactivated for the sins of the rule-breakers.

But the account was reactivated later and he was not killed because he was found to be innocent of rule-breaking.

And after his account was reactivated, he sent anonymous messages to some interpreters who are no longer active.

Therefore any rule-breaker who believes that the owner's son's account was deactivated for his errors shall not be killed!

The owner created a new forum, much better than Nairaland, which his son's believers shall be invited to any time now.

The son's profile was transferred to the new forum 3 minutes after reactivation, which is why it cannot be viewed.

But some members recall that some members said that some interpreters said they saw the son's reactivated profile.

--

What a mess that would be.

modik:


Deutronomy 29:29

budaatum:

Yes, look how faith moves mountains, while that lazy useless science (which is based on rational thought, which underpins logic), just allows me to type words on a device and the entire world gets to read them!

budaatum:

And the reason for our nation's behindedness.

Ishilove:

I don't know neither do I care

Seun:
If God owned Nairaland, he would not operate any account on Nairaland.

He would communicate the rules by sending anonymous messages to random members, the chosen.

The rules presented by each chosen member would contradict the rules presented by the others.

There would be no way of knowing which chosen member had the correct rules.

People would just choose to follow whichever rules the person who invited them to the forum happened to follow.

There would be brutal thread-wars between the people following different sets of rules.

For each set of rules given by the chosen members, there would be multiple interpretations by random members.

The interpreters would claim to have received anonymous clues from the owner which they used to interpret the rules.

There would be brutal thread-wars between people following different interpretations of each set of rules.

Most of the chosen would have deleted their accounts and all posts in which they originally presented their rules.

There would be multiple versions of each set of rules floating about, with no way of knowing if any is correct.

People who broke the rules wouldn't be banned, because the chosen and the interpreters wouldn't have any actual powers.

Interpreters will threaten those who break their rules that the owner will kill them after they deactivate their accounts.

The most famous interpreter would say that all rules are equally important: typos and posting porn pictures are the same.

That all members have broken the rules, so they deserve to be killed by the owner after they deactivate their accounts.

--

But there's good news: the owner's son joined the forum, and he presented his own version of the rules.

Though he was the only member who never broke any rule, his account was deactivated for the sins of the rule-breakers.

But the account was reactivated later and he was not killed because he was found to be innocent of rule-breaking.

And after his account was reactivated, he sent anonymous messages to some interpreters who are no longer active.

Therefore any rule-breaker who believes that the owner's son's account was deactivated for his errors shall not be killed!

The owner created a new forum, much better than Nairaland, which his son's believers shall be invited to any time now.

The son's profile was transferred to the new forum 3 minutes after reactivation, which is why it cannot be viewed.

But some members recall that some members said that some interpreters said they saw the son's reactivated profile.

--

What a mess that would be.

vaxx:
what if i say science evidence is rested on faith

budaatum:

I'll say, "explain yourself".

So, explain yourself please.

Vaxx, how is "Science evidence rested on faith"?

Tohzara:
The universe is more complex.

vaxx:
i will reply you when you stop applying your religious line of thought to the definition of the word faith..... it shows you are still a christian anyway. i challenge you to think out of the box and do net let bible , Quran and science be your limit...

budaatum:

I don't stink. Stop assuming you know the poo in my head!

Give me the definition of faith you want me to work with.

sonofluc1fer:

Most Nigerian Christians are unable to divorce God from the Bible. Their 'idea' of God is strictly 'scriptural'. Whatever doesn't conform to that is worthless and has no lasting meaning.

That's what the Bible says.

budaatum:



The day will come when those "Most Nigerian Christians", will become extinct. A new dawn would arise with a people imbued with a better idea of Gods, well prepared to build the new Jerusalem. And at that time, a voice would be heard saying "Let there be enlightenment", and there will be Enlightenment. And it will be good. For it is the first step.

ZirdoRoray:


Are you sure? Don't forget God commands Ezekiel to eat human faeces. I'm sure anything can happen there since your God is extremely hot-tempered.

Ezekiel: 4. 12. And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.

budaatum:
I don't stink. Stop assuming you know the poo in my head!
Give me the definition of faith you want me to work with.

Seun:
If God owned Nairaland, he would not operate any account on Nairaland.

He would communicate the rules by sending anonymous messages to random members, the chosen.

The rules presented by each chosen member would contradict the rules presented by the others.

There would be no way of knowing which chosen member had the correct rules.

People would just choose to follow whichever rules the person who invited them to the forum happened to follow.

There would be brutal flame-wars between the people following different sets of rules.

For each set of rules given by the chosen members, there would be multiple interpretations by random members.

The interpreters would claim to have received anonymous clues from the owner which they used to interpret the rules.

There would be brutal flame-wars between people following different interpretations of each set of rules.

Most of the chosen would have deleted their accounts and all posts in which they originally presented their rules.

There would be multiple versions of each set of rules floating about, with no way of knowing if any is correct.

People who broke the rules wouldn't be banned, because the chosen and the interpreters wouldn't have any actual powers.

Interpreters would threaten those who break their rules that the owner would kill them after they deactivated their accounts.

The most famous interpreter would say that all rules are equally important: typos and posting porn pictures are the same.

That all members have broken the rules, so they deserve to be killed by the owner after they deactivate their accounts.

--

But there's good news: the owner's son joined the forum, and he presented his own version of the rules.

Though he was the only member who never broke any rule, his account was deactivated for the sins of the rule-breakers.

But the account was reactivated later and he was not killed because he was found to be innocent of rule-breaking.

And after his account was reactivated, he sent anonymous messages to some interpreters who are no longer active.

Therefore any rule-breaker who believes that the owner's son's account was deactivated for his errors shall not be killed!

The owner created a new forum, much better than Nairaland, which his son's believers shall be invited to any time now.

The son's profile was transferred to the new forum 3 minutes after reactivation, which is why it cannot be viewed.

But some members recall that some members said that some interpreters said they saw the son's reactivated profile.

--

What a mess that would be.

ZirdoRoray:


Are you sure? Don't forget God commands Ezekiel to eat human faeces. I'm sure anything can happen there since your God is extremely hot-tempered.

Ezekiel: 4. 12. And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.

vaxx:
ok i will....since we all have different perspective , science work with axioms which aid in experimental of data and logical deduction . these axioms can not be proved and without it science will be meaningless...

If you a lover of Scientific procedure and you do not understand how all scientific findings rest on a foundation of unprovable assumptions, the axioms, then there is a big gap in your basic understanding of how Science works. the starting point of science investigation is rested on assumptions.... there is a coined name for it . it is called hypothesis.

This assumptions is rested on two gigantic faith principle... it goes thus

1 Principle of intelligibility (that secrets of nature can be unlocked by human mind).

2 Principle of objectification. (that all of human experience can be objectified).

so whenever uncertain principle are discover , science suffer a major blow..... for example why is big bang not repeatable, why does it happen once. instead of continues time and so on

You can read further from here ......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_This_Thing_Called_Science%3F

GoodMuyis:


Not that way, think of it this way

Act 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

Seun:
If God owned Nairaland, he would not operate any account on Nairaland.

He would communicate the rules by sending anonymous messages to random members, the chosen.

The rules presented by each chosen member would contradict the rules presented by the others.

There would be no way of knowing which chosen member had the correct rules.

People would just choose to follow whichever rules the person who invited them to the forum happened to follow.

There would be brutal flame-wars between the people following different sets of rules.

For each set of rules given by the chosen members, there would be multiple interpretations by random members.

The interpreters would claim to have received anonymous clues from the owner which they used to interpret the rules.

There would be brutal flame-wars between people following different interpretations of each set of rules.

Most of the chosen would have deleted their accounts and all posts in which they originally presented their rules.

There would be multiple versions of each set of rules floating about, with no way of knowing if any is correct.

People who broke the rules wouldn't be banned, because the chosen and the interpreters wouldn't have any actual powers.

Interpreters would threaten those who break their rules that the owner would kill them after they deactivated their accounts.

The most famous interpreter would say that all rules are equally important: typos and posting porn pictures are the same.

That all members have broken the rules, so they deserve to be killed by the owner after they deactivate their accounts.

--

But there's good news: the owner's son joined the forum, and he presented his own version of the rules.

Though he was the only member who never broke any rule, his account was deactivated for the sins of the rule-breakers.

But the account was reactivated later and he was not killed because he was found to be innocent of rule-breaking.

And after his account was reactivated, he sent anonymous messages to some interpreters who are no longer active.

Therefore any rule-breaker who believes that the owner's son's account was deactivated for his errors shall not be killed!

The owner created a new forum, much better than Nairaland, which his son's believers shall be invited to any time now.

The son's profile was transferred to the new forum 3 minutes after reactivation, which is why it cannot be viewed.

But some members recall that some members said that some interpreters said they saw the son's reactivated profile.

--

What a mess that would be.

vaxx:
FAITH knows , logic thinks

ScienceWatch:
Awesome Vaxx. Absolutely brilliant !!! Because corrupt scientists have started to believe their own fallacies concerning the Big Bang, they have wasted trillions of dollars on space travel to prove that the Big Bang must be repeatable.

While our planet is suffering, scientists spend trillions on fictional fantasy.

Ipfreely:


Interesting take. Certainly valid

But I think you should head over to the autos section and see how fraud is perpetuated in your name all over.

It's only a matter of time before real world consequences come calling.

Tohzara:
Indeed.

If there's sufficient reason for an eternal creator, there's more sufficient reason for an eternal universe.

vaxx:
you are welcome bro. nice having you onboard

budaatum:
No. That's just how 'they' understand it, or chose to see it. The Bible itself says nothing!

Or, has the Trinity now become a Quarternity and I missed the memo?

ZirdoRoray:


Have you bothered doing proper research to see that one of the major reasons science are dominating Space is to mine for scarce or advanced resources that will quickly solve our problems? This has inspired alot of inventions like solar powered electricity (space-ships were the first to mine solar power before it became mainstream) and other inventions currently in the world's most advanced labs we we will be seeing in the future.
What have your Nigerian "space scientists" done so far?

ZirdoRoray:


Yes you are right.. His evil doings are blatant to all. These are just few of all sick examples.

Leviticus 27:28-29, “Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death.” I must admit that I am a bit confused by this contradiction, but it might only apply to slaves in your possession. Not that it makes any difference. A human sacrifice is a human sacrifice, and it is just sick.

God gets angry with king Abimelech, though the king hasn't
even touched Sarah. He says to the king, "Behold, thou art but a dead man," and threatens to kill him and all of his people.
To compensate for the crime he never committed, Abimelech
gives Abraham sheep, oxen, slaves, silver, and land. Finally,
after Abraham "prayed unto God," God lifts his punishment to
Abimelech, "for the Lord had fast closed up all the wombs of
the house of Abimelech, because of Sarah." Gen 20:3-18

God approves of the Libyan slave trade.
God blessed Abraham by giving him lots of slaves. Gen 24:35

God is excited to kill his creations..wow! What a glorious God. "I will ... smite Egypt with all my wonders." Exodus 3:20

Why are some people born with disabilities? Because God
deliberately makes them that way. God loves seeing people suffer. Exodus 4:11

God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been
circumcised. I thought he was all-powerful and could make sure men are borned uncircumcised? lol Gen 4:24-26

God wants to be remembered forever for the mass murder of little children. Exodus10:2