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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by TheKingIsHere: 7:07pm On Feb 23, 2018
adecz:
With the Jihad,
the Fulani destroyed & erased Hausa culture.

As of today, only Hausa have no culture
or tradition, everything is according to
Islamic tenets.

As if they were nonentities before the arrival
of Danfodio & his fanatics.
Exactly.

The Hausas are the only Nigerians without a culture or tradition. Everything they do is now religious.

That's how one Hausa guy was arguing with me on NL that hijab wearing was part of their culture.

I was like WTF!!!

Well there are few traditionalists who are still holding on to the culture of their fore fathers but they are seen as infidels by their own brothers

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:09pm On Feb 23, 2018
Fineman87:


The fulanis are not dominating nigeria. How many fulanis have ruled nigeria. Obasanjo, jonathan, azikiwe, shonekan, aguiyi ironsi, orizu nwafor etc all held sway in nigeria at certain times. Please stop misleading the world with your ignorant trash.

Yaradua
Shehu Shagari &
Buhari are all fulanis.

Others like
Tafawa Balewa
IBB
Abdulsalami
Abacha
Yakubu Gowon &
Murtala Mohammed who were not fulanis were all pro-caliphate and in extension pro-fulanis..... So, it makes no much difference.

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by LZAA: 7:15pm On Feb 23, 2018
Built2last:
Think of the Hausas that Fulani came in and conquered. The Yorubas will serve the caliphate in all aspects forever but the Hausas are the real slave. For what history tells us. Foolanis are our masters

Hausas sacrificed everything to the Fulani.

Fulani is a minority tribe in Nigeria but very vicious and domineering.
Fixed grin

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:15pm On Feb 23, 2018
TheKingIsHere:
Wait o, that's means Daura, Buhari's so called village actually belonged to the hausas.

The entire north-west (except for Southern Kaduna, Southern Kebbi and parts of extreme Zamfara south) belong to the Hausas. It is Hausa homeland.

Fulanis did not have any homeland in Nigeria until 200-300 years ago when they invaded us here.....

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by DerideGull(m): 7:15pm On Feb 23, 2018
Mbediogu:
No part of Tivland fell to the caliphate, no wonder the vengeance on them by fulani herdsmen and soldiers. So Parts of oyo state River Niger, and parts of Taraba belong to Sokoto eh?
They shoukd be contented with dipping the Koran in two Rivers. Why aim for ocean when river is purer for the cows? chai!


All Tiv lands were under the authority of the emirates, Bauchi or Adamawa.
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:17pm On Feb 23, 2018
stillseth:
That's how Fulani people also took Kwara state too.....didn't know they took the north from the Hausas...abeg where these Fulani people migrate from sef.

They came from Futa jallo & Futa toro in Guinea/Senegal.

They are believed to be an ancient breed of north african berbers/arabs and west african peoples, just like the Touaregs.
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:20pm On Feb 23, 2018
DerideGull:



All Tiv lands were under the authority of the emirates, Bauchi or Adamawa.

Absolute trash and nonsense.

Not even Wukari in Taraba or Numan in Adamawa state was ever under fulani control or emirate, let alone the Tivs.

The British colonialists tried to fraudulently group Plateau people under Bauchi emirate during the indirect rule, but it was heavily resisted by Plateau people.

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by TheKingIsHere: 7:20pm On Feb 23, 2018
AlBaqir:


# That is part of our mental colonisation and coupled with the way they dominate other tribes forcefully over the years. This age long idea was dusted by the emergence of Sheik Adam al-Ilory, a core Yoruba Alim. With Sheik Adam's exploit in the field of studies and teachings, Yoruba totally ceased to look after Hausa-Fulani as their religious leaders.

# Their "dominance" today is only political yet Yoruba has broken away from them.

# Don't get me wrong, they have good scholars unfortunately the ruling system which they politically tagged "Islamic" is nothing but tribal. Emir of Sokoto that is regarded as "Amir" of Nigerian Muslims attained power politically. He knows NOTHING as far as religion is concern. He is far from being an Islamic scholar. The truth is nobody take him serious in the west. Loyalty and obedience to him is limited to his subjects in the North.

Hmm. I have learnt something from your post.

Please permit me to ask 2 questions

1. If the yorubas don't take the sultan of sokoto seriously then why do they wait for him to declare that he has seen the moon before any muslim in SW can celebrate salah?

2. Who is the Islamic superior leader for muslims in SW if not the sultan of sokoto?

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nobody: 7:21pm On Feb 23, 2018
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by TheKingIsHere: 7:21pm On Feb 23, 2018
Nowenuse:


The entire north-west (except for Southern Kaduna, Southern Kebbi and parts of extreme Zamfara south) belong to the Hausas. It is Hausa homeland.

Fulanis did not have any homeland in Nigeria until 200-300 years ago when they invaded us here.....

Wow!

Thanks for this insight
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:22pm On Feb 23, 2018
Benwems:
The post did not say how Usman Dan Fabio took otiapepe (rat killer) and killed himself when he couldn't defeat the rugged and warriors of Benin (BINI) kingdom.

Don't forget that the Nupe/Fulani jihadists conquered and annexed Auchi people (who were also a branch of Edo people).....
I think it was shameful that the great Bini kingdom allowed that.

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by DerideGull(m): 7:23pm On Feb 23, 2018
Nowenuse:


Yaradua
Shehu Shagari &
Buhari are all fulanis.

Others like
Tafawa Balewa
IBB
Abdulsalami
Abacha
Yakubu Gowon &
Murtala Mohammed who were not fulanis were all pro-caliphate and in extension pro-fulanis..... So, it makes no much difference.

You could not be more correct. Those who were not Fulani by ethnicity were under the authority or influence of the emirates which was an administrative department of the Caliphate.

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:26pm On Feb 23, 2018
Asquare84:
Op. You need to add how the jihad was stop in benue state because usman dan fodio has already hosted his flag in the Atlantic ocean, thank God for the corregous effort of benue warrior if not the whole of Nigeria would av been islamise. How benue manage to stop the jihad is a whole topic for another day

Benue people were not the only ones in the middlebelt to resist jihad and defeat the fulanis, let alone the entire present day Nigeria.

Jukun people (of Wukari, Taraba south) also defeated and resisted the fulani caliphate.
Plateau & Southern Kaduna people also did.

Igalas also did.

Numan confederacy of Adamawa south also resisted the fulanis.

In the South, Yoruba people defeated the fulani jihadists at Ogbomosho. Edo people defeated the jihadists at Esan axis.

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by DerideGull(m): 7:27pm On Feb 23, 2018
Nowenuse:


Absolute trash and nonsense.

Not even Wukari in Taraba or Numan in Adamawa state was ever under fulani control or emirate, let alone the Tivs.

The British colonialists tried to fraudulently group Plateau people under Bauchi emirate during the indirect rule, but it was heavily resisted by Plateau people.

The Caliphate soldiers were stopped at Igbo-Eze and Nsukka axis during the war termed Hauaa\Akegbe war.

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:28pm On Feb 23, 2018
PrecisionFx:




NE wasn't conquered by the Fulani

The majority of Bauchi, Gombe, Yobe and parts of Adamawa and Taraba were conquered and is still being ruled by the fulanis today.
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:30pm On Feb 23, 2018
DerideGull:


The Caliphate soldiers were stopped at Igbo-Eze and Nsukka axis during the war termed Hauaa\Akegbe war.

This is a nonsense lie that I see some Igbos ignorantly spreading on nairaland.

Igbos never encountered the fulanis at anytime in battle because the fulanis could not penetrate Benue & Igala land.
Did they fly over Benue/Kogi to get to the Igbos?

Igbos never fought fulanis nor had any contact with them until the British colonialists came.

You guys should stop spreading this lie with immediate effect and making fools of yourselves!

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by NovusHomo(m): 7:33pm On Feb 23, 2018
Kingkamba:
bastards abokis grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Not nice.
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by NovusHomo(m): 7:34pm On Feb 23, 2018
Kingkamba:
bastards abokis grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Not nice.
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by DerideGull(m): 7:35pm On Feb 23, 2018
Nowenuse:


Benue people were not the only ones in the middlebelt to resist jihad and defeat the fulanis, let alone the entire present day Nigeria.

Jukun people (of Wukari, Taraba south) also defeated and resisted the fulani caliphate.
Plateau & Southern Kaduna people also did.

Igalas also did.

Numan confederacy of Adamawa south also resisted the fulanis.

In the South, Yoruba people defeated the fulani jihadists at Ogbomosho. Edo people defeated the jihadists at Esan axis.


The above crap is in line with the saying that Ilorin was not taken by Caliphate but was defeated at Ogbomosho. It was a quagmire at Ogbomoso hence it was not administer by any emirate. All Benue and Taraba were under Bauchi or Adamawa emirates. This is one reason the people from these areas thought and fought as if Ahmadu Bello was their grandfather during Nigeria/Biafra war.
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by ballerin(m): 7:35pm On Feb 23, 2018
DerideGull:


Where did you get this nonsensical crap? Tiv did not put up any resistance to the Jihadists and Dan Fodio did not fight any war. The wars of conquer and expansionism were fought by Dan Fodio's son and younger brother.
DanFodio didn't fight ANY war?
What was his role during the jihad?
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by NovusHomo(m): 7:36pm On Feb 23, 2018
Built2last:
Igbos cry Everytime that they are marginalized but think of the Hausas that Fulani came in and conquered. The Yorubas may serve the caliphate politically but the Hausas are the real slave. For what history tells us. Foolanis are visitors.

Hausas sacrificed everything to the Fulani.

Fulani is a minority tribe in Nigeria but very vicious and domineering.


I keep telling people that there is nothing called "Hausa-Fulani". its a way of dominating the Hausa.

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:36pm On Feb 23, 2018
Naaseer01:
lies lies lies

Dan fodio fought Hausa rulers only when they attack him first (for self defence)in order to stop him from preaching the true teaching of Islam which was diluted at that time by the Hausa King with Idol worshiping like tsumburbura and barbushe idols in kano. and that's is what Dan fodio fought against. he was attacked, his students killed, their wealth burnt down by those rulers just because he preachea against mixing Islam with idol worshiping. and that is when he took the action of self defence.

he did not fight to rule totally but to ensure true teaching of Islam and fought against those tyrant rulers of that time who are dictators and oppressors of their subject. that is even why he get support of local Hausa people there.

Note : any other reason you would get is fabricated by the enemies of Islam. if you want to know shehu Dan fodio , go and read his book and what he teach. and you will know the true reason why he fought those rulers. and yes the entire nigerian Muslims are happy he did because if not we would not find a true Islam as we did today

This is the useless lie that you fulanis spread to deceive gullible northerners ba? Don't worry, we are in the age of enlightenment, that lie will soon be fully exposed.

Islam was never ' purified by Danfodio' (as you claim) in Kanuri land, Igala land and Yoruba land. .....

So, are you saying that Kanuri muslims, Igala muslims & Yoruba muslims who defeated your Danfodio are not true muslims today?

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Odingo1: 7:40pm On Feb 23, 2018
Nowenuse:


This is a nonsense lie that I see some Igbos ignorantly spreading on nairaland.

Igbos never encountered the fulanis at anytime in battle because the fulanis could not penetrate Benue & Igala land.
Did they fly over Benue/Kogi to get to the Igbos?

Igbos never fought fulanis nor had any contact with them until the British colonialists came.

You guys should stop spreading this lie with immediate effect and making fools of yourselves!
But Kogi have high moslem population, there is a probability that they cross through kogi.
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:41pm On Feb 23, 2018
DerideGull:



The above crap is in line with the saying that Ilorin was not taken by Caliphate but was defeated at Ogbomosho. It was a quagmire at Ogbomoso hence it was not administer by any emirate. All Benue and Taraba were under Bauchi or Adamawa emirates. This is one reason the people from these areas thought and fought as if Ahmadu Bello was their grandfather during Nigeria/Biafra war.

Why are you just saying nonsense here?

Can you show any proof when the Tivs or Jukuns were paying homage to any caliphate or emirate?

Benue & Taraba people defended the north because they believed in One Arewa in the past. Their fathers were deceived into believing in a united north which the British forced them into, not because they were ever under any emirate....


Fulanis took control of Ilorin as well as Nupe land through deception and internally. It was never a full scale invasion war and conquest...

Pls, educate yourself with more history to avoid embarrassing yourself in public.
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by ballerin(m): 7:42pm On Feb 23, 2018
Mbediogu:


It is too late for the hausas. If they complain they are shown the koran, if they rebel they are reminded about law and order, and exploits of prophet Danfodio SAW.






In other words, Hausas are eternal slaves to Fulani, but do not forget entirely that it takes just a spark to start a fire.

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:44pm On Feb 23, 2018
Odingo1:

But Kogi have high moslem population, there is a probability that they cross through kogi.

Islam spread through trade in Kogi & majority of Nasarawa state, not because of conquest. This is why there is no single emirate in the entire Kogi state!

My hometown in Plateau state is 50% muslim. This did not happen through conquest, but through trade of my people with Bauchi tribes. This is why we have no business with any emirate!
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by TheKingIsHere: 7:47pm On Feb 23, 2018
ballerin:
In other words, Hausas are eternal slave to Fulani but do not forget entirely that it takes just a spark to start a fire.
The only way the hausas will come to their senses is when Nigeria breaks up, that's why the fulanis don't want to hear anything like referendum or restructuring.

It exposes them that they are not true owners of the lands they occupy

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by ballerin(m): 7:49pm On Feb 23, 2018
TheKingIsHere:

Maybe because they look alike and people can't really differentiate between Hausa and Fulani hence they tag them along.

For example I called one Hausa guy Fulani some time ago, the guy was so furious saying that I insulted him by calling him a Fulani.

It was that day that I knew the difference. I had to make more research and found out about Uthman Dan fodio and how he conquered the Hausas.
The Hausa/Fulani appendage might most likely connotes religious bonding above ethnic affiliations.
Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Odingo1: 7:49pm On Feb 23, 2018
Nowenuse:


This is the useless lie that you fulanis spread to deceive gullible northerners ba? Don't worry, we are in the age of enlightenment, that lie will soon be fully exposed.

Islam was never ' purified by Danfodio' (as you claim) in Kanuri land, Igala land and Yoruba land. .....

So, are you saying that Kanuri muslims, Igala muslims & Yoruba muslims who defeated your Danfodio are not true muslims today?
The north believe that they are the one that brought Islam to yorubas by force, they refer yoruba muslims as fake because they refuse to accept islam as the northerners did, they said that yoruba muslims mix islam with idol worshiping and allow females to enter their mosque.

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by TheKingIsHere: 7:49pm On Feb 23, 2018
TheKingIsHere:

Hmm. I have learnt something from your post.

Please permit me to ask 2 questions

1. If the yorubas don't take the sultan of sokoto seriously then why do they wait for him to declare that he has seen the moon before any muslim in SW can celebrate salah?

2. Who is the Islamic superior leader for muslims in SW if not the sultan of sokoto?
@Albaqir, no answer to the questions?

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by Nowenuse: 7:50pm On Feb 23, 2018
Odingo1:

But Kogi have high moslem population, there is a probability that they cross through kogi.

Haven't you also observed that most Kogi muslims are very very liberal compared to Hausas?

Most Igalas that call themselves muslims still worship idols and dance with masquerades.

Infact enter any Igala town during traditional day, muslims and christians leave their religions at home and celebrate the masquerades and idols together. And from the shrine, they can branch their mosques/churches....... This is same in most parts of Nasarawa. ...This tells you that the kind of islam these people practice and that of Hausa fulanis is not the same and never came through Danfodio.

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Re: The Creation Of Sokoto Caliphate After The 1808 Jihad War by TheKingIsHere: 7:52pm On Feb 23, 2018
Nowenuse:


This is a nonsense lie that I see some Igbos ignorantly spreading on nairaland.

Igbos never encountered the fulanis at anytime in battle because the fulanis could not penetrate Benue & Igala land.
Did they fly over Benue/Kogi to get to the Igbos?

Igbos never fought fulanis nor had any contact with them until the British colonialists came.

You guys should stop spreading this lie with immediate effect and making fools of yourselves!
You are right.

The igbos never encountered the fulanis. There is no history about it.

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