prolog2:
Talking to you is insult enough, no need to add other insults.
So I guess your historical sources are things written by people who weren't there to witness the story which they are telling ?
You think that claiming they are Edo like me would make you and your story tellers evade scrutini ?
I am a 30 year old with a masters degree. Most of my students are probably older and more educated than you.
I hope one day you will understand that words written in a blog by some talented fiction writers do not constitue history.
As I have already stated, No part of Benin Kingdom (yes because in 1885 there was no such thing as Edo-state, the land was a subterritory of Benin Kingdom) was ever invaded. The Duke/Attaru of Auchi converted to islam after Omo n'Oba n'Edo Ovonramwen lost a war to the british.
I am seriously wondering if you have a brain.

blackpanthers:


I don't really get this poo you typed above, what are you trying to say Mr.?

Nowenuse:


Since you could not take your time to read that link in your deluded mind and foolery, how would you see that the writer of that article actually made reference to renowned historians, quoting them at the end.

I guess afterall, degrees are not a typical representation of the enlightenmment of a person. They are just mere papers. If not, for someone who claims to have a masters degree, you would have at least checked the end of the page to see the numerous references and citations. Some of these references were even from foreign sources. Ignorance is truly a disease!

Here is a screenshot from a part of the references. Let me help your lazy ass.

prolog2:
WHat I am trying to say is that there is a lot of trash being written here and there and that "reading more" is the dumbest thing you could say. Getting educated is not the same as just "reading". If someone reads a lot but reads only trash, he might think he is educated while he is being brainwashed. You guys all need to get educated and learn how to use your brains !

Nowenuse:


Really, what is your point? Am I arguing this with you? Bini land and Bini kingdom were 2 different things na.

Auchi is not benin land but was part of Benin kingdom. I am not arguing.

blackpanthers:


But from the look of things, I think you are the one that needs to get the much-needed education "Mr master degree holder". Nairaland is a platform where people meet to discuss issues and each of these personalities brings their point to the table, the onus is on you to disagree with a formidable point to counter his points. Making a blanket statement and generalization in a faceless forum about people you know nothing about shows how deluded you are.

blackpanthers:


There was nothing like Northeast 200 years ago, what is known as Northeast today was home to more than 100 kingdoms and different ethnic nationalities. The kanuris, which was part of the present day northeast have an empire extending deep into present-day Chad, Northern Cameroon, and Niger. This empire have Islam as a state religion as far back as the 13th century, hundreds of years before dan fodio was born

Firstpage:


You are the foolish one here that only see this from your jaundiced perspective.

Whenever a Yoruba man becomes president it means the north gave him.

So Yoruba did not give the north power when obasanjo handed over to shagari and when he handed over to Year adua?

Who gave north power in person of buhari if north Yoruba? Why don't you agree they are subservient to the Yorubas instead. You Ibo's will just die of hatred.

FYI, your forefathers have always been slaves to the north in persons of zik, ekwueme, ironsi.

prolog2:
You are truly an illiterate, what in hell is "bini land" and what in hell is "bini kingdom " ?
All I know is Benin Kingdom.

FulaniTerrorist:


Zombie it's actually Bini kingdom

yeyerolling:
Lord lugard secured the future of his empire, same thing the black man cant do.

lord lugard on the black man
"Through the ages, the African appears to have evolved no organised religious creed, and though some tribes appear to believe in a deity, the religious sense seldom rises above pantheistic animalism and seems more often to take the form of a vague dread of the supernatural. He lacks the power of organisation, and is conspicuously deficient in the management and control alike of men or business. He loves the display of power, but fails to realize its responsibility - he will work hard with a less incentive than most races. He has the courage of the fighting animal, an instinct rather than a moral virtue. In brief, the virtues and defects of his race -type are those of attractive children, whose confidence when it is won is given ungrudgingly as to an older and wiser superior and without envy. Perhaps, the two traits which have impressed me as those most characteristic of the African native are his lack of apprehension and his lack of ability to visualize the future"

EazyMoh:
Why was he exiled in the first place? You can't start telling history from the middle.
*Modified
I can't believe the Mods brought this to PF. This is just a segment of a long story. Even if you don't want to write much you could at least summarize the main events.
It's not by force to be a blogger.
Here is a summary intro from Wikipedia.

prolog2:
I will soon delete my account, all I do on nairaland is take insults from illiterates who somehow believe they know better.

DerideGull:


Fake news. Benue was already under an emirate. Any place under the authority of emirate is a subjugation of Caliphate. The Caliphate was taught the lesson of their war at outskirts of Igbo-Eze and Nsukka LGAs.

FulaniTerrorist:


You are a fool, your fellow Yoruba made that useless comment,

FEGNO:
Are there really pure Hausas left? It would seem that after so many years of inter-marriages and mixing that there would at this time be at best an Hausa Fulani ethnic group. Such that there would be few pure Fulani's and few pure Hausas or am I wrong? Someone kindly elucidate

EazyMoh:
Why was he exiled in the first place? You can't start telling history from the middle.
*Modified
I can't believe the Mods brought this to PF. This is just a segment of a long story. Even if you don't want to write much you could at least summarize the main events.
It's not by force to be a blogger.
Here is a summary intro from Wikipedia.

sanerugwei:
Incomplete story..tell me more

ghostfacekillar:
this history small nah

MrSly:

Yours is still incomplete.
It is worthy of note that Danfodio led jihad met its waterloo at Nsukka when they tried entering Igboland.

prolog2:
I don't know where to start.
You don't seem to mind the fact that you are being foolish.
Instead of correcting your thinking, you have chosen to push through in the same debunked direction.
You are just like the captain of a boat who bet that there is no rock on his way, and when sighting the rock, instead of turning back and saying he was wrong, the captain goes even faster towards the rock and therefor kills himself and his crew.
All this to say: yoru blogger could quote the pope if he wants, it doesn't matter !
If you want to claim that something happened in 1885 then you need to produce historical documents written arround 1885 which state your claim. Even historians do not have the magical power to just claim things without historical documents to back their claims. Quoting a person's name won't change this simple thing ! Do you get it now ??

MrSly:

Yours is still incomplete.
It is worthy of note that Danfodio led jihad met its waterloo at Nsukka when they tried entering Igboland.

Nowenuse:


HiddenShadow. You asked me how many other igbos have I seen spreading the lie that Igbos fought fulanis.

Well here is another Ignoramus. I have encountered some others spreading this lie...... Is this how Igbos spread lies?

Fulanis could not penetrate the Benue/Kogi/Southern Taraba axis, how did they now meet Igbos? Did they fly over?

HiddenShadow:


Wake up.

He is the same guy as deridegull.

This is his alternate moniker

Nowenuse:


Well, I don't know. You should as well caution him to stop peddling false info.

prolog2:
Talking to you is insult enough, no need to add other insults.
So I guess your historical sources are things written by people who weren't there to witness the story which they are telling ?
You think that claiming they are Edo like me would make you and your story tellers evade scrutini ?
I am a 30 year old with a masters degree. Most of my students are probably older and more educated than you.
I hope one day you will understand that words written in a blog by some talented fiction writers do not constitue history.
As I have already stated, No part of Benin Kingdom (yes because in 1885 there was no such thing as Edo-state, the land was a subterritory of Benin Kingdom) was ever invaded. The Duke/Attaru of Auchi converted to islam after Omo n'Oba n'Edo Ovonramwen lost a war to the british.
I am seriously wondering if you have a brain.
It gets frustrating when you see someone reason like a child and yet that same undevelopped brain thinks he can challenge you.
I am taking some time to educate you kids who keep typing rubbish in nairaland and it is verry depressing. Is it your common rule to always forget your brain before going into nairaland ? Or do you just smoke coccain and then start spewing childish nonesens ?

Nowenuse:


You are a hopeless case! I give up. No need pouring water on a rock. Anyone reading this thread will easily understand between you and I who is more foolish.

So, you still did not see where I told you that some of the references on that page were from European sources as they were pure accounts written by Europeans when they came to present day Nigeria and the things they witnessed.......
If that is not enough fact for you then I wonder what is.

Fulani & Nupe elites were already educated and knew how to read and write during this period, they have written accounts of all these events, and they have never come out to debunk any of this.

MrSly:

Yours is still incomplete.
It is worthy of note that Danfodio led jihad met its waterloo at Nsukka when they tried entering Igboland.

Nowenuse:


You are a hopeless case! I give up. No need pouring water on a rock. Anyone reading this thread will easily understand between you and I who is more foolish.

Nowenuse:


HiddenShadow. You asked me how many other igbos have I seen spreading the lie that Igbos fought fulanis.

Well here is another Ignoramus. I have encountered some others spreading this lie...... Is this how Igbos spread lies?

Fulanis could not penetrate the Benue/Kogi/Southern Taraba axis, how did they now meet Igbos? Did they fly over?

MrSly:

By the time your were enrolled into a secondary school history was no longer taught. Take a rest kid.
No attack me, na joke ooooo