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Iliveforme:
I need some time to read through the thread you posted.

Take all the time you want.

vaxx:
Your personality is the ''i'' within you, it is what does not break even if everything breaks. supposing a person loses one of his limbs, he still says "I am studying" and "I am reading a poem" and never says" three-quarters of me is studying" or" "three-quarters of me is reading poem". No person can divide his personality and nature into different parts. the real you is your personality and not the matter you own as a body. i am not superstitious so do not expect that from me to convince with what its not real. you have never lost your real you for once. have you try to go thru the thread i posted.

I have gone through it and all I could get was spiritualism and purpose.

First if all, purpose is useless if it all ends at nothing and as I said, death.

Also regarding spiritualism I cannot even begin to.process that.

Iliveforme:
I have gone through it and all I could get was spiritualism and purpose.

First if all, purpose is useless if it all ends at nothing and as I said, death.

Also regarding spiritualism I cannot even begin to.process that.

there is nothing like nothingness. this is a fallacy. anyway reflect on my post , it is better than fighting it. death is not nothingness, it is a from of cycle, i have given you my scientific backup and the logical reasons. it is left for you to comprehend. what is your old moniker, i am suspecting you.

vaxx:
there is nothing like nothingness. this is a fallacy. anyway reflect on my post , it is better than fighting it. death is not nothingness, it is a from of cycle, i have given you my scientific backup and the logical reasons. it is left for you to comprehend. what is your old moniker, i am suspecting you.

You gave me scientific illustrations no doubt but mixed with a lot of philosophy.

You say death is not the end and is simply a cycle. What kind of cycle would it be that does not benefit me and I cannot control its outcome.

I am alive today but everyday I read about people who died and I know that it could have been me being read about by someone else. I would just be a story to be read and discarded. Men that hurts.

I came here quietly to make sense of it all and have no idea why you would suspect me? Do I not have the right to protect my politics section identity?

Iliveforme:
This is my whole point and struggle to make sense of it all. I succeed yet I die. I fail yet I die. I make it rich or remain poor yet I die and the most distressing part is that I know death would be the absolute end for me so why all the bother?

Those few times I have gone through the religion section of nairaland and I read people talking about life after death and the way they say it with such certainty I just laugh at that level of ignorance because how can a mass of flesh and bones like me do anything besides rot when I die. This sad reality distresses me even more.

It is your flesh which will rot, not your spirit.

Life is a blank sheet of paper, you can do whatever the hell you want with it until its unusable or just squeeze it and throw it in the trash from the start, its your choice. It has whatever meaning you give to it. But think about the fact that some people's "sheets of paper" aren't as good as yours, some are already slightly torn in some places, some are wrinkled, and you got a relatively good one.

Emmanystone:
It is your flesh which will rot, not your spirit.

What is spirit? I picked up spiritualism from the thread of the other gentleman and you are now telling me what I know will happen to my body. I consider All talk about spirit as nonsense.

Iliveforme:
The simulated reality with an absolute end point part got me. I want more but I know I cannot have it because when I die I am gone. Great minds who I look up to have all died and all they ever worked for or investigated stopped making any sense to them the moment they died. This is disturbing.

Since death is the end of everything how then would you understand anything? I don't understand

Pls don't get me wrong as i do not want to add to what pain you are going through already. But, shouldn't you an atheist have less worries or no worries at all since everything ends at death?

For us religious folks who believe in the afterlife, we live knowing we may not make it into the eternal life with Christ as a result of sins in our lives. But as an atheist, non of that worries you, you are free to just live as you like, die and just rot. I don't understand why you worry.

AnonyNymous:
Life is a blank sheet of paper, you can do whatever the hell you want with it until its unusable or just squeeze it and throw it in the trash from the start, its your choice. It has whatever meaning you give to it. But think about the fact that some people's "sheets of paper" aren't as good as yours, some are already slightly torn in some places, some are wrinkled, and you got a relatively good one.

You don't understand my problem. I do not care about others and what they have in comparison to what I have. All I see is the meaninglessness of it all. Everything in existence stops at some point so what then is the point to it all if my existence will stop eventually?

winner01:
Take all the time you want.

I am doing so a little at time.

Iliveforme:
You don't understand my problem. I do not care about others and what they have in comparison to what I have. All I see is the meaninglessness of it all. Everything in existence stops at some point so what then is the point to it all if my existence will stop eventually?

The point is to have fun, man so if you're not enjoying it either change what you're doing or at least make time to do things you enjoy, but if you can't do that you're as good as dead. The essence of life isn't the DESTINATION its the JOURNEY. It took me some time to figure that out after my friend died last year.

The reason I compared it to others is because. . some people are born with deformities that already make it harder for them to enjoy their lives, and you're whole and complete.

Iliveforme:
What is spirit? I picked up spiritualism from the thread of the other gentleman and you are now telling me what I know will happen to my body. I consider All talk about spirit as nonsense.

Okay. Sorry i said anything.

Emmanystone:
Pls don't get me wrong as i do not want to add to what pain you are going through already. But, shouldn't you an atheist have less worries or no worries at all since everything ends at death?

For us religious folks who believe the afterlife, we live knowing you may not make into the eternal life with Christ as a result of sins in our lives. But as an an atheist, you are free to just live as you like, die and just rot. I don't understand why you worry.

Everyone has worries and its not exclusive to anybody. I have just been doing a lot of analysis lately. I am studying to become a mechanical engineer eventually and during my study on material science I began to think about me. I mean really think about me and suddenly other thoughts starting forcing themselves into my head and these days I find it almost impossible to switch off those thoughts.

From the start I have always known that when I die , I rot but when I put that knowledge side by side with who I am and what I have been through and my degree of awareness it just does not make sense anymore. That is where my anxiety I believe came from and then I suddenly took a liking to watching videos about dead people, or how people die and best gore is one of my favourites. Then it got me spooked that these people I am actually watching could be me. How and why would they face everything about life and still die that way and everything about them ends.

I then began to see the uselessness of it all and how it all makes no sense in the long run. Bro I do not care about Christ and what happens to religious folks because I know they are all saying nonsense and clearly deluded. I am more about me .

Iliveforme:
I have a nagging headache even now and have been unable to sleep because I am afraid that I may not wake up when I do. I don't want my life to just cease yet it will. I am sorry if you did not like my outburst but I already warned that I do not want your bullshitt and you still tried to do it. Such things irritate me easily please.

No vex. Try to relax and listen to what others are trying to say.

Can we talk now?

Iliveforme:
Everyone has worries and its not exclusive to anybody. I have just been doing a lot of analysis lately. I am studying to become a mechanical engineer eventually and during my study on material science I began to think about me. I mean really think about me and suddenly other thoughts starting forcing themselves into my head and these days I find it almost impossible to switch off those thoughts.

From the start I have always known that when I die , I rot but when I put that knowledge side by side with who I am and what I have been through and my degree of awareness it just does not make sense anymore. That is where my anxiety I believe came from and then I suddenly took a liking to watching videos about dead people, or how people die and best gore is one of my favourites. Then it got me spooked that these people I am actually watching could be me. How and why would they face everything about life and still die that way and everything about them ends.

I then began to see the uselessness of it all and how it all makes no sense in the long run. Bro I do not care about Christ and what happens to religious folks because I know they are all saying nonsense and clearly deluded. I am more about me .

Isorite.
Cutemadrista come and helep your brother here o. Budaatum una come o.

***I take the sidelines.***

AnonyNymous:
The point is to have fun, man so if you're not enjoying it either change what you're doing or at least make time to do things you enjoy, but if you can't do that you're as good as dead. The essence of life isn't the DESTINATION its the JOURNEY. It took me some time to figure that out after my friend died last year.

The reason I compared it to others is because. . some people are born with deformities that already make it harder for them to enjoy their lives, and you're whole and complete.

I am loosing interest in what you call fun. How can anyone focus on a journey when the destination is always the same. Logically speaking that does not make any sense.

Emmanystone:
Isorite.
Cutemadrista come and helep your brother here o. Budaatum una come o.

***I take the sidelines.***

The thing tire you sef abi? The guy is just blocking everybody. He asked a question and no want answers or even suggestions.

Butterflyleo:
The thing tire you sef abi? The guy is just blocking everybody. He asked a question and no want answers or even suggestions.

You have to be very careful with a mindset such as this. This is the kind of guy who can take a gun and kill anyone in side, because, after all, life is meaningless.

It scares me to read his mind.

All you need is JESUS...

he gives meaning to everything

Emmanystone:
You have to be very careful with a mindset such as this. This is the kind of guy who can take a gun and kill anyone in side, because, after all, life is meaningless.

It scares me to read his mind.

Let's not go to that extreme. Maybe he just needs a shoulder to cry on and someone who understands. His thoughts though are going crazy and admittedly worrisome .

Iliveforme:
I am loosing interest in what you call fun. How can anyone focus on a journey when the destination is always the same. Logically speaking that does not make any sense.

What I call fun is different from what you call fun. The point of life in my opinion is to do whatever makes you happy as long as you can. You don't know where you were before you were born, so why are you bothering yourself about where you'll be when you're dead? Its clear that the interval in between, which is the JOURNEY is what matters. Let me make an analogy:


You were blindfolded and had no idea where you were but then put in a giant bus/trailer that has everything that you want- food, TV, video games, swimming pool, hot girls (who will obey your every command) , and so on, whatever the heck you want. Then they removed the covering on your eyes, and told you that you could do whatever the hell you wanted, but when the bus gets to where its going, you're going to be blindfolded again and taken somewhere. You worrying, or feeling depressed about not knowing where they'll take you is not a logical thing to do, because it doesn't affect wherever they're still going to put you. So the best thing to do is just to have a good time and hope for the best. (And be gentle with the girls )

I hope you get my point now. Just do whatever the hell you want to do. If you're worried about the afterlife, some smart dude put all religions and ideologies into a sample space, and mathematically/statistically calculated the best possible one. Guess what? "Good deeds" came out on top. So try your best not to be an asshole while enjoying your life. I bet if you got a bank alert that got you as much money as the Adenugas and Otedolas, then you'd have a lot of things you'd want to try out.

AnonyNymous:
What I call fun is different from what you call fun. The point of life in my opinion is to do whatever makes you happy as long as you can. You don't know where you were before you were born, so why are you bothering yourself about where you'll be when you're dead? Its clear that the interval in between, which is the JOURNEY is what matters. Let me make an analogy:


You were blindfolded and had no idea where you were but then put in a giant bus/trailer that has everything that you want- food, TV, video games, swimming pool, hot girls (who will obey your every command) , and so on, whatever the heck you want. Then they removed the covering on your eyes, and told you that you could do whatever the hell you wanted, but when the bus gets to where its going, you're going to be blindfolded again and taken somewhere. You worrying, or feeling depressed about not knowing where they'll take you is not a logical thing to do, because it doesn't affect wherever they're still going to put you. So the best thing to do is just to have a good time and hope for the best. (And be gentle with the girls )

I hope you get my point now. Just do whatever the hell you want to do. If you're worried about the afterlife, some smart dude put all religions and ideologies into a sample space, and mathematically/statistically calculated the best possible one. Guess what? "Good deeds" came out on top. So try your best not to be an asshole while enjoying your life. I bet if you got a bank alert that got you as much money as the Adenugas and Otedolas, then you'd have a lot of things you'd want to try out.

The problem here is that I have seen and keep seeing where everyone ends up and its death. Some very gruesome and some not so gruesome but death is still death and I know there is nothing out there beyond death and like you said, I did not know where I was before I was born because I was nowhere. If I was anywhere then why did I not have choices regarding my outcome? It just makes no sense at all.

Since I keep seeing people die that lets me know that I would also be dead one day. The other day on nairaland front-page I saw something about dead bodies left unclaimed in a mortuary and were given a mass burial. The pictures were insanely gory and it further hit me in a bad way.

My mood has been noticed by my friends but not by my family since I do not live with them but none of them has been able to help me.

I have lost the apetite for food and the desire for sleep. Those unclaimed corpses were once like me probably typing on nairaland and laughing at everyday things but they are not typing or laughing now and it would be my turn some day and maybe my corpse too would be left unclaimed for a long while.

I am just tired.

Iliveforme:
The problem here is that I have seen and keep seeing where everyone ends up and its death. Some very gruesome and some not so gruesome but death is still death and I know there is nothing out there beyond death and like you said, I did not know where I was before I was born because I was nowhere. If I was anywhere then why did I not have choices regarding my outcome? It just makes no sense at all.

Since I keep seeing people die that lets me know that I would also be dead one day. The other day on nairaland front-page I saw something about dead bodies left unclaimed in a mortuary and were given a mass burial. The pictures were insanely gory and it further hit me in a bad way.

My mood has been noticed by my friends but not by my family since I do not live with them but none of them has been able to help me.

I have lost the apetite for food and the desire for sleep. Those unclaimed corpses were once like me probably typing on nairaland and laughing at everyday things but they are not typing or laughing now and it would be my turn some day and maybe my corpse too would be left unclaimed for a long while.

I am just tired.

You're still fixated on the destination. It might take some time but once you figure out that the journey is all that matters, you'll lose all these thoughts. Good luck!

Butterflyleo:
Let's not go to that extreme. Maybe he just needs a shoulder to cry on and someone who understands. His thoughts though are going crazy and admittedly worrisome .

Isokay. Like i said, **sidelines**

"energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only be converted from one form to another" (this came from a very deep meditative consciousness or maybe you would prefer I say mind).
if death comes with life then it is reasonable to say life comes with death .
death and life are opposite polarity of same thing (existence).

I would have want to make some spiritual statements mixed with science but I have seen that you will refuse to reason with it.

find a way to enjoy this life and when you die find out what is in stock in the other dimension.
(could be life)
or ...if you can't wait (probably too much suffering here) you can as well find out immediately death isn't hard and it is a must (no negotiation).
but remember one can't pass through a class if one fails to achieve the purpose of that class (a repeat is sure).

....have a nice time...try to study about meditation your answers might be within, deep in the darkness of your consciousness(when you turn the light there, it is beautiful)... the mind/intellectual is a program and that is what you have ...you can't beat through the walls of a program unless the program is ignored and then something spectacular happens the program becomes corrupted and the system begins to act at will .
then you will see the truth about existence .

life and death are one
negative and positive are one
light and darkness are one.
opposite polarity of same thing/existence.
one does not exist without the other ..one does not function without the other ...what you need is a full consciousness about existence.

AnonyNymous:
You're still fixated on the destination. It might take some time but once you figure out that the journey is all that matters, you'll lose all these thoughts. Good luck!

This is nothing but truth.

Many times, when I am thinking deep about my life, I always feel not fulfilling. The thought started when I was very young. I go to school, crave to pass and after passing, I will not be happy deep inside. Maybe it my upbringing, I am not used to hanging out with friends. I naturally shy alot, and fear easily creep into me.

I want to have some amount of money, fuucck some beautiful girls, do what other boys in the hood do but after all these, no fulfilment in me. The hole will still be there. Until when I married and have a son. I love talking with him, play games, sing and run around with him. Surprisingly, I want more of it. It seems my happiness is implanted in him. I just want to see him and crave to make him happy. For now, I enjoy it and want more.

Maybe OP should try new things. Something that would make him happy.

Emmanystone:
You have to be very careful with a mindset such as this. This is the kind of guy who can take a gun and kill anyone in side, because, after all, life is meaningless.

It scares me to read his mind.

How come you ain't scared of those who killed innocent children accused of been witch? Afterall they were following the instruction of Yahweh

AnonyNymous:
You're still fixated on the destination. It might take some time but once you figure out that the journey is all that matters, you'll lose all these thoughts. Good luck!

No one embarks on a journey without thinking about the destination. The way you people claim life is meaningless and still try to project your own meaning on others is laughable.

FOLYKAZE:
This is nothing but truth.

Many times, when I am thinking deep about my life, I always feel not fulfilling. The thought started when I was very young. I go to school, crave to pass and after passing, I will not be happy deep inside. Maybe it my upbringing, I am not used to hanging out with friends. I naturally shy alot, and fear easily creep into me.

I want to have some amount of money, fuucck some beautiful girls, do what other boys in the hood do but after all these, no fulfilment in me. The hole will still be there. Until when I married and have a son. I love talking with him, play games, sing and run around with him. Surprisingly, I want more of it. It seems my happiness is implanted in him. I just want to see him and crave to make him happy. For now, I enjoy it and want more.

Maybe OP should try new things. Something that would make him happy.

"Creatures are not born with desires unless satisfaction for these desires exists. A baby feels hunger; well, there is such a thing as food. A dolphin wants to swim; well, there is such a thing as water. Men feel sexual desire; well, there is such a thing as sex. If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S Lewis (Mere Christianity, Bk. III, chap. 10, "Hope"

FOLYKAZE:
How come you ain't scared of those who killed innocent children accused of been witch? Afterall they were following the instruction of Yahweh

Jesus, who is the focal point of Christianity, stood against religious zealots ready to stone a prostitute. Jesus would not stone a witch and no Christ-ian should too.

winner01:
No one embarks on a journey without thinking about the destination. The way you people claim life is meaningless and still try to project your own meaning on others is laughable.

What's your problem, man?? You have your opinion and I have mine. Why do you feel compulsed to make me accept yours? Can't you just look and walk away? The op isnt even religious, for crying out loud. And I never said life was meaningless- but of course, you're so used to attacking anyone who isn't a Christian, that you assume all non Christians (and non Muslims) must be atheists with the same ideologies and opinion. Abeg shift jare

AnonyNymous:
What's your problem, man?? You have your opinion and I have mine. Why do you feel compulsed to make me accept yours? Can't you just look and walk away? The op isnt even religious, for crying out loud. And I never said life was meaningless- but of course, you're so used to attacking anyone who isn't a Christian, that you assume all non Christians (and non Muslims) must be atheists with the same ideologies and opinion. Abeg shift jare

Calm down, why get so worked up.
I'm not projecting my opinion neither am I compelling you to accept mine.

I only find it funny that you can embark on a journey without thinking about your destination. We know, no reasonable human does this.

Also I'm not assuming that you're an atheist and for sure I know the op isn't religious either.

Calm down ehn, calm down..