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Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by obailala(m): 9:54am On Apr 14, 2018
5thElement:
How do you expect the people benefiting from the current structure to have the desire to restructure?

How do you build solid structure on weak foundations?

These current crop of politicians and public office holders are Nigeria's weak foundations.

They have to be uprooted first before anything can be built.

If Sowore ever wins this election, hopefully everyone will realize that you don't have to be a money bag or an old doldering fool or a young thug or a kleptomaniac to aspire to lead in this country.

Hopefully, the next elections after this coming one (provided Sowore wins) will see more youths taking over the political space.


Then we can now talk of restructuring.
Sowore doesnt even need to win for this to happen, all it would take is for him to shake the political sphere and that would encourage many others.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by redsun(m): 10:15am On Apr 14, 2018
oluwasegun007:
Indirectly Baba bubu is a big thief....
He may not be, there are still a few rational men like him in Nigeria.He is just saying it as it is that nigeria is a gangster paradise and you literally have to be a gangster to be at the helm of affairs.Thievery is cultural in nigeria and it is the bane of the country's nemesis.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by Ratello: 10:22am On Apr 14, 2018
HeWrites:
I don't know why but I'm liking SOWORE
Definitely, your mind is playing tricks on you no doubt.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by Nobody: 10:31am On Apr 14, 2018
obailala:
Sowore doesnt even need to win for this to happen, all it would take is for him to shake the political sphere and that would encourage many others.
Unless Sowore actually wins this coming election, Nigerian youths will never ever believe that it's possible (they will always point to Sowore's loss as proof) and that will slow down the progress that would have occurred if credible youths take over government from analog leaders.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by Yankee101: 10:46am On Apr 14, 2018
He's a thief alright
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by sayisayi(m): 10:50am On Apr 14, 2018
Grupo:
Your own na to dey show big bress up and down. When you go show your face?
Bros, thanks for the link.

Pls answer her statement
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by Nobody: 10:55am On Apr 14, 2018
hinograce:
I fear for this mentality. God help us
Truth,they say, is bitter. The man is just unvieling the rare truth
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by LordAdam16: 10:56am On Apr 14, 2018
5thElement:
How do you expect the people benefiting from the current structure to have the desire to restructure?

How do you build solid structure on weak foundations?

These current crop of politicians and public office holders are Nigeria's weak foundations.

They have to be uprooted first before anything can be built.

If Sowore ever wins this election, hopefully everyone will realize that you don't have to be a money bag or an old doldering fool or a young thug or a kleptomaniac to aspire to lead in this country.

Hopefully, the next elections after this coming one (provided Sowore wins) will see more youths taking over the political space.

Then we can now talk of restructuring.
The same youths who are clamoring for Sowore to become the President should channel their energy to pressuring the elite for restructuring. Sowore would not become the President without submitting to the money bags and kleptomaniacs. That's why he went to Musa in the first place.

Unless you guys are saying it's okay to have another corrupt stooge as long as the person is younger. Like that would somehow make restructuring a certainty.

Let me put it in very simple terms. It doesn't matter where the person is from, his ethnicity, religion, or age. To become the President under this system, you MUST be willing to condone corruption from the interest groups that helped get you elected. It's as simple as that.

Sowore has restructuring in his manifesto. APC did too. If Sowore becomes President, it would be consigned to the dustbin, like APC did. This Messianic complex is nauseating. There's no one who'd give you restructuring on a platter, you have to fight for it. Not fight for another wannabe kleptomaniac with a history of conniving with the same old goons you detest.

Where do you think Sowore gets his SR intel from?

-Lord
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by ZeOptimist(m): 10:56am On Apr 14, 2018
5thElement:
Unless Sowore actually wins this coming election, Nigerian youths will never ever believe that it's possible (they will always point to Sowore's loss as proof) and that will slow down the progress that would have occurred if credible youths take over government from analog leaders.
cry Sadly, this is the sober truth. But don't you think that if he actually comes close, it could make a difference?
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by hinograce: 10:59am On Apr 14, 2018
Sounds like the truth. But how long can we remain in this. Then we must never complain or expect any good thing from a thief. I personally think we can't advance with thieves captaining our country.
Rem22:
Truth,they say, is bitter. The man is just unvieling the rare truth
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by LordAdam16: 11:00am On Apr 14, 2018
obailala:
Even an elementary school pupil is aware that the entire Nigerian political space is soaked in corruption and as such, the most basic form of common sense judgement entails going for a less corrupt alternative if corruption is something that bothers you.

And yes, regionalising the country would reduce the desperation for power and the corrupt money based politics it breeds, but yet again, that wouldn't solve the corruption in the system overnight if notoriously corrupt breeds are still ferried to leadership positions.
Oh, so it's now less corrupt, a totally subjective metric? I thought it was "incorruptible"?

And what is this obsession with "solving [the] corruption in the system overnight"? Do you think anything one person would do will solve corruption overnight. I seriously have no idea what you're on about.

-Lord
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by hinograce: 11:02am On Apr 14, 2018
Can this truth be undone and rewritten? Can we go back to the point where thieving should not be an integral ingredient in the calibre of leaders we have.
Rem22:
Truth,they say, is bitter. The man is just unvieling the rare truth
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by fwallex4truth(m): 11:18am On Apr 14, 2018
trapQ:
Useless old idiots. Is Nigerian politics different from the kne they play in America? Nonsense!
Ode! U are trap in all forms of poverty in Nigeria, that your reasoning is so low.


May the God of Lai Muhammed finish u.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by Nobody: 11:20am On Apr 14, 2018
Esseite:
That is why the call for real time camera feed.. that would eliminate child voters and rigging,as polling units with such malpractice would be cancelled outright and evidence would be available for all and sundry with a mobile device
Nigeria aren't capable of that.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by seguno2: 11:21am On Apr 14, 2018
Esseite:
Social media would change all that... if not for social media would durotoye or sowore via for presidential tickets?

Another step is the change in election sequence, it would enable mushroom parties via for elective positions on equal platforms.. eliminate bandwagon effects.
Social media can help but it can’t do it alone.
The youths and Nigerians must get their PVCs and donate money while campaigning aggressively to counter the impact of the corrupt cabals using our stolen money to keep us in bondage.
No shortcuts to success.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by kmaster007: 11:21am On Apr 14, 2018
Thank God u no all of u re thieves.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by LaudGuy: 11:23am On Apr 14, 2018
see wetin so called states man de open mouth de talk. What a retarded and wasted generation of buffoons. yes the obasanjo generation and counting. Una no the shame say under una care naija has not made any credible progress? God punish all of you lot immensely
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by Nobody: 11:23am On Apr 14, 2018
ZeOptimist:
cry Sadly, this is the sober truth. But don't you think that if he actually comes close, it could make a difference?
Maybe, but I think coming close won't make as much difference as clinching the post.

Coming close might cut the long process into half, but why aim for that when we can unite and free ourselves now.

Today is the day of salvation, not tomorrow.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by Bakerdav: 11:29am On Apr 14, 2018
Indirectly buhari is a thief,then why is he fighting corruption
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by trapQ: 11:35am On Apr 14, 2018
You're an imbe.cile. I've been traveling around the globe since i was 18. Bask in your poverty and keep licking dirty asses of ppt bellied fools like your filthy self, idiot.
fwallex4truth:
Ode! U are trap in all forms of poverty in Nigeria, that your reasoning is so low.


May the God of Lai Muhammed finish u.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by trapQ: 11:38am On Apr 14, 2018
I know well enough to believe reality over conspiracy theories.
chidibond:
You obviously know nothing about American politics and elections.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by trapQ: 11:40am On Apr 14, 2018
Are you kidding me? It's 200gazillion times better.
Their politics gave them the best society and greatest nation on the planet. That's why all our politicians will give an arm and a leg to step on U.S soil at least once.
mmsen:
American politics is scarcely any better and not a good example for anyone to follow.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by Burgerlomo: 11:41am On Apr 14, 2018
Baba 70 don sing am for him song say authority stealing pass armed robbery cool

Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by Nobody: 11:42am On Apr 14, 2018
[quote author=LordAdam16 post=66700256]
The same youths who are clamoring for Sowore to become the President should channel their energy to pressuring the elite for restructuring. Sowore would not become the President without submitting to the money bags and kleptomaniacs. That's why he went to Musa in the first place.
And how will they channel their energy? Would they forcefully abduct the lawmakers or even the President?

The only way is to bring about a systemic change in leadership.

Unless you guys are saying it's okay to have another corrupt stooge as long as the person is younger. Like that would somehow make restructuring a certainty.
Do you have proof that Sowore or any of these other young chaps trying to get there are corrupt?
Let me put it in very simple terms. It doesn't matter where the person is from, his ethnicity, religion, or age. To become the President under this system, you MUST be willing to condone corruption from the interest groups that helped get you elected. It's as simple as that.
I disagree. With that kinda mentality Nigeria will always remain the way it is. Go and read up on the birth of new republics and nations. The leadership class will never willingly relinquish power. That's why peeps like Obasanjo keep involving themselves in politics as old as they are.

Sowore has restructuring in his manifesto. APC did too. If Sowore becomes President, it would be consigned to the dustbin, like APC did.
How do you know that it will be consigned to the trashcan? What you're saying in essence is that there's no need trying since we can't be sure.

Life itself is a risk in case you don't know. That might sound like a cliché but its very true.

We need to talk a leap of faith in this guy or we continue with our corrupt grandfathers.

This Messianic complex is nauseating. There's no one who'd give you restructuring on a platter, you have to fight for it. Not fight for another wannabe kleptomaniac with a history of conniving with the same old goons you detest.
And we are going to fight for it with our votes. To think that you can somehow force the ruling class to do the right thing is like expecting it to snow in hell.

That's never going to happen. They have tasted how sweet stolen wealth can be. So they'll never do the right thing. We need someone like Sowore who hasn't tainted himself with the corruption of Nigeria and who has lived in a better clime and knows how things work over there.

There's no certainty in life. Well just have to trust and see. There's always an opportunity for change after 4years.

Where do you think Sowore gets his SR intel from?

-Lord
Where does he get his Intel from? Go ahead, don't be shy, let us know.

I believe if you know for sure you should spill it right here along with whatever you are implying.

Otherwise, you are falsely accusing an innocent man if whatever.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by ogogoroNo1: 11:52am On Apr 14, 2018
And that's the reason why we need independent candidates in our electro procces
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by adadike(f): 11:52am On Apr 14, 2018
papoudaupolos:
Because is your destiny.
Too dumb to govern urself.
No wonder, we are killing u guys with codeine syrup. ewu!
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by bankylion: 12:04pm On Apr 14, 2018
"but when you look at it these clean people are made up of people who have not been able to steal because even stealing is not available to everybody." So true.
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by Fourwinds: 12:17pm On Apr 14, 2018
trapQ:
Useless old idiots. Is Nigerian politics different from the kne they play in America? Nonsense!
is like you are still a child....go and learn about Nigeria politics and then come back to reflect on what Balarabe Musa said
Re: You Can't Become Nigeria's President, Without Being A Thief, Musa Tells Sowore by LordAdam16: 12:24pm On Apr 14, 2018
5thElement:
And how will they channel their energy? Would they forcefully abduct the lawmakers or even the President?

The only way is to bring about a systemic change in leadership.
Are you seriously asking this question? Have you ever heard of social pressure?

The kind that occurred after the immigration scandal under GEJ that forced several changes. The kind that made Odua lose her job? The kind that Babachir lose his job? The kind that made Maina flee the country despite the fact that just days before his re-appointment came to light he was campaigning to become the governor of his state?

There is no such thing as "only way." It is a concerted effort using different means to better the country's situation.

Do you have proof that Sowore or any of these other young chaps trying to get there are corrupt?
You got to be kidding me.

Read Fatodu's account on Sowore here -- http://punchng.com/sowore-fatodu-trade-accusations-threaten-legal-action/. All of it may not be true, but as they say, there's no smoke without fire. This same Sowore proclaimed in 2017 that there was no more corruption in Nigeria at the University of Kent. This was his exact quote "There is no corruption in Nigeria anymore because there is nothing else to steal and loot."

https://www.nairaland.com/3957428/president-buhari-became-sick-result/

You have to be abhorrently corrupt to say there is no corruption in Nigeria in 2017. Or do you think corruption is only taking money from public coffers?

I disagree. With that kinda mentality Nigeria will always remain the way it is. Go and read up on the birth of new republics and nations. The leadership class will never willingly relinquish power. That's why peeps like Obasanjo keep involving themselves in politics as old as they are.
Disagreeing wouldn't change the reality or facts on ground. This is not El Dorado. This is Nigeria. You either face reality or you stop replying me.

How do you know that it will be consigned to the trashcan? What you're saying in essence is that there's no need trying since we can't be sure.

Life itself is a risk in case you don't know. That might sound like a cliché but its very true.

We need to talk a leap of faith in this guy or we continue with our corrupt grandfathers.
Life is a risk. But you don't get through it by taking st*pid risks like standing in front of a Mac truck on an interstate thinking it wouldn't knock you down. You take calculated risk. Voting a corrupt stooge in a corrupt system and thinking that'd somehow make restructuring a reality is like walking into a burning building expecting not to get burned.

I'm not a blind believer. That's how your kind blindly believed in the mofo-in-chief in Aso Rock ignoring all the telltale signs and got their *ss handed to them. You want to go for round 2. Apparently, you enjoy doing the same over and over again, expecting a different result.

And we are going to fight for it with our votes. To think that you can somehow force the ruling class to do the right thing is like expecting it to snow in hell.

That's never going to happen. They have tasted how sweet stolen wealth can be. So they'll never do the right thing. We need someone like Sowore who hasn't tainted himself with the corruption of Nigeria and who has lived in a better clime and knows how things work over there.

There's no certainty in life. Well just have to trust and see. There's always an opportunity for change after 4years.
That is a hot steaming pile of crap!

BVN was implemented. Ghost workers are being eliminated. Fertilizer scam was stopped. Important, powerful people who are part of the elite were part of these rings that are getting clipped.

There's a reason why the state governments are refusing to subject themselves to the FOI federal law. The heat it'd generate would be too much for them to handle. That heat is the major thing that'd force the change we want. Not one corrupt maniac sitting in Aso Rock who is obviously oblivious of all the challenges we face.

That heat will bring about restructuring if you blockheads channeled your energy correctly. But no, all you're concerned about is the next obviously corrupt stooge you'd have "faith" in.

Unbelievable!

Where does he get his Intel from? Go ahead, don't be shy, let us know.

I believe if you know for sure you should spill it right here along with whatever you are implying.

Otherwise, you are falsely accusing an innocent man if whatever.
Innocent of what?

The documents and information he gets are from sources that have access to the seat of government. Now why would these same sources provide these information if they weren't using it to forward their own political agenda.

You guys should get out of your echo chamber and taste the coffee. Sowore is Buhari 2.0. A corrupt stooge being propped up by corrupt elements and if possible get elected with corrupt funds who will fail monumentally when given power.

If you can't see that, then no problem. Vote for him. Be a sucker again for the umpteenth time. History always repeats itself they say.

BTW, I have no interest in debating about a charlatan like Sowore with you. I've got better things to do than waste my time over a cheap blackmailer.

-Lord
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