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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by fcisca: 7:35pm On Apr 19, 2018
Azzin BabaRamota now dishing out consular advice.
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BabaRamota1980:


I think he should first discover if his father left an estate. His rights of inheritance under that circumstance will prove eligibility.

The dad may have land properties or bank accounts or business enterprise.... If that is true and ties of parentage and eligibility to estate can be estblished i see no reason he cannot get a business trip visa.

Its different if the father passed with no tangible valuables left behind....or if he willed them before death and this OP is not on the will.


See as BabaRamota sef don become vo. Kikikikikikikikikikikiki... grin grin grin
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by LadyGuinivere: 7:53pm On Apr 19, 2018
benolala:
I believe all you need is a visiting visa which VO's do not grant only on documents presented. So, your concern should be can you demonstrate that you qualify as a temporary visitor to the US. It will do you good not to base the strength of your application on the nessasity of your trip. His death certificate is good document for sighting if the VO may need to it at all.

Best of luck

Correct. I concur 100 percent.
To the OP it's Ties first then
Purpose which in my opinion is good. To see your father's grave and pay your respects is a solid reason to travel. Take anything you feel is necessary. If however you are asked for what you don't have, ask for an opportunity to present it later

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by YankeeJJC(m): 8:27pm On Apr 19, 2018
SexyDuby:
Hello,
Please there's a name rearrangement mistake on my US visit visa appointment form.
My name on the form appears to have my first and second name as my surname and I just realised I can't edit the page as I've saved and scheduled an appointment already.
All other info on the DS-160 form is correct as on my passport and payment receipt.
My question is I hope I won't have any issue on the day of interview as the name rearrangement is only on the appointment schedule form.
Please kindly help if you've had similar issue and what did you do to resolve.
best is to contact the Embassy for correction, so that u don't get turned back on that day. call or Mail them
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by YankeeJJC(m): 8:42pm On Apr 19, 2018
NothingDoMe:
This timeline from time of death to the time you want to pay last respect is somehow. You didn't mention that you have any conversation with your dad. You may need to prove that you had a good relationship with your dad before he died.

This your reason of traveling is very weak from all you've just said. I believe there's more to this story.......
your type of VO go hard to convince ooo cheesy

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by seyewest(m): 9:09pm On Apr 19, 2018
TheCongo2:



The reality on the ground is a far cry from what you have described.
If the government was keeping facial records as a mean of identification, then we would never have cases like this one:
http://toronto.citynews.ca/2009/08/21/woman-detained-in-kenya-suing-ottawa-for-2-5-million/

I could give you countless of examples

This is Canada not U.S
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by NothingDoMe: 9:12pm On Apr 19, 2018
YankeeJJC:
your type of VO go hard to convince ooo cheesy
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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by seyewest(m): 9:14pm On Apr 19, 2018
meelife:
Please how many days to get back passport using dropbox?I mean from the day the passport was dropped?
Is it in all situations that you will be advised of passport being ready for pick up via email?
Is the email sent during the day or late ate nights?

Normally it's between 7-12 days.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by seyewest(m): 9:19pm On Apr 19, 2018
OmoBendel24:


In order.... I don't think OP has more disadvantages than advantages on this turf, he can continually go in and out of the US with his B1/B2 visa despite the pending fiancee visa application. The last paragraph of his post seem to be pointing towards something planned out, but it's perfect and sensible, not breaking any rule nor misusing his visa so to speak, I just like him and his approach. Totally impressed, I wish him the very best!

He seems legit and organized.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by NothingDoMe: 9:25pm On Apr 19, 2018
LadyGuinivere:

Correct. I concur 100 percent.
To the OP it's Ties first then
Purpose which in my opinion is good. To see your father's grave and pay your respects is a solid reason to travel. Take anything you feel is necessary. If however you are asked for what you don't have, ask for an opportunity to present it later
I kinda disagree. A lot of people seemed qualified with strong ties. But their reason for traveling wasn't believable enough for the VO. This last respect reason is really weak because he's got no documents to show relationship. And he's going with the whole family too.

I've seen people on this forum get their Visa once they explained that they weren't going for birthing. The VO was ready to issue them a Visa for vacation but not for birthing. Purpose. If his purpose of visiting is flawed then his ties will not matter.

That said I disagree with ties first then purpose second. It should be purpose first. It's always purpose first.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by seyewest(m): 9:31pm On Apr 19, 2018
NothingDoMe:
This timeline from time of death to the time you want to pay last respect is somehow. You didn't mention that you have any conversation with your dad. You may need to prove that you had a good relationship with your dad before he died.

This your reason of traveling is very weak from all you've just said. I believe there's more to this story.......

Maybe uncle or father's brother......because he's hinging his argument on his dead dad ''ties''
The question you should answer is this....
Are you married?
do you have travel history?
what do you do for a living and how much do you earn a month?
how long have you been working?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by seyewest(m): 9:37pm On Apr 19, 2018
BabaRamota1980:


I think he should first discover if his father left an estate. His rights of inheritance under that circumstance will prove eligibility.

The dad may have land properties or bank accounts or business enterprise.... If that is true and ties of parentage and eligibility to estate can be estblished i see no reason he cannot get a business trip visa.

Its different if the father passed with no tangible valuables left behind....or if he willed them before death and this OP is not on the will.


See as BabaRamota sef don become vo. Kikikikikikikikikikikiki... grin grin grin

Wow BabaRamota of life ... nice opinion from you.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by benolala(m): 9:52pm On Apr 19, 2018
The very blue form stating reasons why over 90% visas are denied says it all. The strength of been able to convince the VO in his or her judgement that you are likely to return back to Nigeria is the highest determinant of granting the Visa.

It's one thing to have a convincing strong ties but another thing to present it in a convincing way. If you follow the US visa process closely you will realise that good travel history is a big factor though not a guarantee.

There is nothing as easy as finding a good reason to travel but technically difficult to demonstrate ties.

The information on your passport gives VO a picture of who you are and the manner you answer the questions convince the VO about how sincere you are. That is why its a face to face interview.

NothingDoMe:
I kinda disagree. A lot of people seemed qualified with strong ties. But their reason for traveling wasn't believable enough for the VO. This last respect reason is really weak because he's got no documents to show relationship. And he's going with the whole family too.

I've seen people on this forum get their Visa once they explained that they weren't going for birthing. The VO was ready to issue them a Visa for vacation but not for birthing. Purpose. If his purpose of visiting is flawed then his ties will not matter.

That said I disagree with ties first then purpose second. It should be purpose first. It's always purpose first.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by DebsMed: 9:56pm On Apr 19, 2018
NothingDoMe:
I kinda disagree. A lot of people seemed qualified with strong ties. But their reason for traveling wasn't believable enough for the VO. This last respect reason is really weak because he's got no documents to show relationship. And he's going with the whole family too.

I've seen people on this forum get their Visa once they explained that they weren't going for birthing. The VO was ready to issue them a Visa for vacation but not for birthing. Purpose. If his purpose of visiting is flawed then his ties will not matter.

That said I disagree with ties first then purpose second. It should be purpose first. It's always purpose first.

Even though they work hand in hand, ties trumps purpose with minute exceptions. If your ties are right, purpose may matter less. On the reverse, if your purpose is rock solid and ties are weak, it takes extra considerations for you to scale through.
If poster happens to be the eldest child/son of the deceased for example, his purpose even become tighter, but then, his ties are weakened by the quality of the persons he intends traveling with, those are major ties! Unless he has other very major ties to make up for this, his purpose - however strong - still won't suffice. How good is his travel history if I may ask?

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by opeoluwa20(m): 10:26pm On Apr 19, 2018
Fill another form i guess
YankeeJJC:
best is o contact the Embassy for correction, so that u don't get turned back on that day. call or Mail them
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Ssalk: 10:57pm On Apr 19, 2018
I must say that getting America Visa is extremely difficult now especially for those with virgin passport. Even those that have good travel history still find it hard to get Visa. Just in the space of two months three of my friend who are very very comfortable in Nigeria were all refuse Visa. Just today my cousin was deny Visa as well, below is his transcript.

Vo. Passport pls
My cousin : here it is and good morning the vo didn't reply
Vo: were are u going in us
My cousin : Atlanta Georgia
Vo: to do what?
My cousin : for solid mineral conference
Vo: where do u work?
My cousin : ministry of Solid mineral as so so so.
Vo: Are u married
My cousin: Yes
Vo: Do u have children
My cousin : No
Vo: have u traveled before?
My cousin : no
Vo: Sorry it can't be granted now ......blablabla.

So what happened?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by YankeeJJC(m): 10:59pm On Apr 19, 2018
opeoluwa20:
Fill another form i guess
it's appointment Page mistake and not Ds-160
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Ssalk: 11:03pm On Apr 19, 2018
My friend own is even worst. He is a top banker married, have a house in Abuja, wife , kids in good schools but has never travel out before.

Vo: passport
My friend: here it is
Vo: Have you travel before
My friend: no
Sorry you cannot be granted the Visa now. ........

I mean this guy have enough ties to Nigeria but got denied.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by YankeeJJC(m): 11:06pm On Apr 19, 2018
Ssalk:
My friend own is even worst. He is a top banker married, have a house in Abuja, wife , kids in good schools but has never travel out before.

Vo: passport
My friend: here it is
Vo: Have you travel before
My friend: no
Sorry you cannot be granted the Visa now. ........

I mean this guy have enough ties to Nigeria but got denied.
just This?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by opeoluwa20(m): 11:49pm On Apr 19, 2018
They will tell him they cant fix it i had same issue once ago but u can try, they always believe maybe he wants to sell the date for a new name or something
YankeeJJC:
it's appointment Page mistake and not Ds-160
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by YankeeJJC(m): 11:54pm On Apr 19, 2018
opeoluwa20:
They will tell him they cant fix it i had same issue once ago but u can try, they always believe maybe he wants to sell the date for a new name or something
lol. how were u able to resolve that issue?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by odehbrainard: 12:10am On Apr 20, 2018
What if one decides to apply a week before his expect d time of arrival in the USA would it be a bad thing to do so?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by odehbrainard: 12:52am On Apr 20, 2018
Hello guys, am new on this thread, I was invited by my high school classmate who is getting married in the USA, though he is a permanent resident, his wife is an American citizen, she sent me her passport bio data pages and drivers license alongside a letter addressed to the USA consulate in Lagos to me, now I work as the personal assistant and secretary to the area tax controller and assistant director of taxes of a region in delta state, now the thing is, he employed me personally not as a government staff and he pays me directly, outside that I am a blogger and have been able to generate income via blogging as a side hustle, I am graduating from my first degree in June, I have been to Southafrica once and Dubai about 5times, I am not looking to immigrate one bit as am doing fine here, what are my chances should I apply?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by benolala(m): 1:35am On Apr 20, 2018
Yes at list you can see the reason for your self. The fact that you know them to be comfortable do not qualify them as US visa application do not require property or bank statements.

The information on your passport will tell the VO if you have enough to spend such money on a 5days conference in the US.

Professionals usually have been to other countries for business meetings not starting from the US.

Your passport is the most reliable document which the VO can trust because they can detect fake visas or stamps.

Ssalk:
I must say that getting America Visa is extremely difficult now especially for those with virgin passport. Even those that have good travel history still find it hard to get Visa. Just in the space of two months three of my friend who are very very comfortable in Nigeria were all refuse Visa. Just today my cousin was deny Visa as well, below is his transcript.

Vo. Passport pls
My cousin : here it is and good morning the vo didn't reply
Vo: were are u going in us
My cousin : Atlanta Georgia
Vo: to do what?
My cousin : for solid mineral conference
Vo: where do u work?
My cousin : ministry of Solid mineral as so so so.
Vo: Are u married
My cousin: Yes
Vo: Do u have children
My cousin : No
Vo: have u traveled before?
My cousin : no
Vo: Sorry it can't be granted now ......blablabla.

So what happened?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by BabaRamota1980: 2:00am On Apr 20, 2018
fcisca:
Azzin BabaRamota now dishing out consular advice.
angry angry

grin grin grin


seyewest:


Wow BabaRamota of life ... nice opinion from you.

cheesy cheesy

Thanks guys!


What a coincidence!! I woke from a dream about this US Visa thread. This is amazing.

I need to think about what was revealed to me in the dream.

Wow almost 2am. I dey go cuddle under my wife and get sleep. smiley
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by LadyGuinivere: 4:56am On Apr 20, 2018
NothingDoMe:
I kinda disagree. A lot of people seemed qualified with strong ties. But their reason for traveling wasn't believable enough for the VO. This last respect reason is really weak because he's got no documents to show relationship. And he's going with the whole family too.

I've seen people on this forum get their Visa once they explained that they weren't going for birthing. The VO was ready to issue them a Visa for vacation but not for birthing. Purpose. If his purpose of visiting is flawed then his ties will not matter.

That said I disagree with ties first then purpose second. It should sbe purpose first. It's always purpose first.
You got yours, I got mine.
I have no idea what you consider a good reason to travel.
And as for your birthing analogy, it does not apply in any way. Because visas are issued for birthing, every single day as long as you prove you can afford it. That's the point of the birthing thread. Kindly read it. It may change your view.

Do a favor to those you give your opinion, read the transcripts from part 1. And then the vos thread so you don't inadvertently mislead posters. The vos have said it a thousand and one times, ties is Bae.
Ties is everything. If a person could be issued a visa to go see snow then.... So if Dangotes son wants to go see the grave of his great grandfather in the US, and his ties are clear, you think the vo will ask him whether he was close with his great grandfather? Section 214b that is the major grounds for refusal of Bvisas, what does it refer to? It's an assumption that an applicant has an immigrant intent. What is the first thing you consider when you think someone may run away? His home circumstances and how well of he is. That is what one refers to as ties.
Again, where a roadside welder or Mason with a salary of 20k a month and no wife or kids wants to go to the US to see his identical twin brother in a hospice about to die... Great reason. Do you think he will be issued a visa? I think not.

The problem we have is that we over complicate issues in our minds.We create imaginary issues where they don't exist. It's really very simple. The man couldn't go for his father's burial. Now he wants to see the grave and pay his respects. Simple. Do you have any idea how sacred certain people take Graves of family members? It's the man's father. All the assumptions you made on whether he was in good terms with his father, what was the source of that?Did he post that and I missed it?
I only give my opinion from the information given combined with logic and personal experience and what I have seen here. If he is Peraventure asked about his relationship with his father, the op I believe can speak for himself. That why it's called an interview. For a person to clear gray areas.

That being said, stick to your views bro. I gave him mine. I saw your opinion and walked past. If information given is based on an untruth or without a logical base, please feel free to critique.
Good morning

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by JAMESOJAY: 7:41am On Apr 20, 2018
Please I want you to help e explain this to me..- I went to the American Embassy last year..i answer all the questions correctly..the VO asked if I was married I said yes and she asked if I have kids I said yes...I told her my sons age..Next question the VO asked where is your son? I said she with my wife...she looked at my and repeated the question again and I answered same thing. Next she gave a pink paper and said I should try again

Please help me out
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by newsheriffintown: 7:52am On Apr 20, 2018
Please I will like to know if there is a sponsorship or free tuition for physically disable international student for b.s.c in any of the English speaking western country

OR his there any kind of program for disable student to access free education or less tuition fee

my parents dont have much money to spend and am not the only child but i can raise 100k ,the problem right now his maybe i get admission how do I pay for tuition because I don't see how my parent would be able to fund me

right now I have my waec and the schools in Nigeria are not wheelchair friendly and job after school is almost impossible

Please any of the guru should help a brother
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by NothingDoMe: 8:52am On Apr 20, 2018
benolala:

There is nothing as easy as finding a good reason to travel but technically difficult to demonstrate ties.
This is where I disagree. I'm not talking about the ease at which one can select a purpose to visit. I am saying that the VO doesn't see purpose of visit as flimsy as many people think. I strongly believe it is the first important step in securing the Visa. I do not believe it comes second after ties.

I miss the days when Abuja.niv or Lagos.NIV would just wade into these kind of discussions. Whenever I read it I would smile and be like the VO don talk, matter don close grin
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by NothingDoMe: 9:11am On Apr 20, 2018
LadyGuinivere:

That being said, stick to your views bro. I gave him mine. I saw your opinion and walked past. If information given is based on an untruth or without a logical base, please feel free to critique.
Good morning
These shouldn't be the only reason for debates na. Apologies if it appeared like an attack.

That being said, can I offer abacha as a peace offering this morning? Nsala soup and Santana? Or my personal favorite of Aghara and Ose-oji which I can eat three times a day, seven days a week. grin
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by BarristerAlarig: 10:14am On Apr 20, 2018
Heyofrizzle:


21 years you say? Well maybe you have a wife and kids or kid. You might stand a chance but to me for your age you are a potential immigrant and you would have to prove that is false to the VO. IRE O!


Thanks for your comment. I honestly do not care what the VO thinks. If I don't get the visa, I will simply try another country. Maybe the UK or Canada or schegen member countries. I don't see the need of praying and fasting for a non immigrant visa. I am the one with the upper hand. It's my money that's gonna be spent in the country.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by BabaRamota1980: 10:30am On Apr 20, 2018
BarristerAlarig:



Thanks for your comment. I honestly do not care with the VO thinks. If I don't get the visa, I will simply try another country. Maybe the UK or Canada or schegen member countries. I don't see the need of praying and fasting for a non immigrant visa. I am the one with the upper hand. It's my money that's gonna be spent in the country.

Guy, i give 21 gun salute in respect and honor to you. May God bless you all days of your life.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by LadyGuinivere: 10:40am On Apr 20, 2018
NothingDoMe:
These shouldn't be the only reason for debates na. Apologies if it appeared like an attack.

That being said, can I offer abacha as a peace offering this morning? Nsala soup and Santana? Or my personal favorite of Aghara and Ose-oji which I can eat three times a day, seven days a week. grin
MBA. Today I'm feeling aje. I want fried pizza with popcorn soaked in ice cream. grin
But Serzly anara and Ose-oji oji is the bomb

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