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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:50pm On May 06, 2018
Pls Come here sir . Oya give us his playing history. that’s the only argument I will listen to if you have not seen his original birth certificate
Kog45:
Kai make i run before tbaba1234,Humility017 and Joebie catch me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:51pm On May 06, 2018
Make I go watch better match #ElClassico don start
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:52pm On May 06, 2018
tbaba1234:


Iwobi and Mikel would be lovely in the middle with Ndidi playing in front of the defence. We will be able to create more chances.


Mikel is the Overwhelming favorite for that AM position. Anything that Moves him to play a deep midfield position is counter productive.
Mikel is the player that has the most intelligent Final passes in that team so we need him directly behind the forwards. Just those killer passes that will set the forwards on errands. Onazi, Joel, or Etebo can play at the CM position while iwobi can play from one of the wings positions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:56pm On May 06, 2018
Ehmmm... Chief... We are talking 4-3-3 akin to having both Kroos and Modric with Casemiro as their henchman or having Xavi and Iniesta with Busquets doing the dirty work.

Mikel-Iwobi-Ndidi could potentially be that beautiful to see.

No be 4-2-3-1 or its variant we dey yarn oooo....


Icon4s:


Mikel is the Overwhelming favorite for that AM position. Anything that Moves him to play a deep midfield position is counter productive.
Mikel is the player that has the most intelligent Final passes in that team so we need him directly behind the forwards. Just those killer passes that will set the forwards on errands. Onazi, Joel, or Etebo can play at the CM position while iwobi can play from one of the wings positions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:58pm On May 06, 2018
tbaba1234:


Iwobi and Mikel would be lovely in the middle with Ndidi playing in front of the defence. We will be able to create more chances.

I've been saying the same thing on here for ages now. It would do our build up play a whole world of good. I'd play Etebo on the left so he and Iwobi can swap position during the game. Etebo with his crazy stamina would help defensively out wide and in the middle if required.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:00pm On May 06, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Ehmmm... Chief... We are talking 4-3-3 akin to having both Kroos and Modric with Casemiro as their henchman or having Xavi and Iniesta with Busquets doing the dirty work.

Mikel-Iwobi-Ndidi could potentially be that beautiful to see.

No be 4-2-3-1 or its variant we dey yarn oooo....



You think Rohr is going to start with a 4-3-3 in this WC? Particularly that Croatian team that is loaded in the midfield?

Except you guys are just on a fantasy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:04pm On May 06, 2018
I know Rohr won't which is the ONLY reason I ended my thoughts on this with a but and then a shrug.... lol...
(plus he has not even tried it yet... has he thought of it? can't say)

But Rohr aside... this could be magic for The Super Eagles on the field of play. Maybe not against Croatia but against most oppositions.



Icon4s:


You think Rohr is going to start with a 4-3-3 in this WC? Particularly that Croatian team that is loaded in the midfield?

Except you guys are just on a fantasy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:11pm On May 06, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
I know Rohr won't which is the ONLY reason I ended my thoughts on this with a but and then a shrug.... lol...

But Rohr aside... this could be magic for The Super Eagles on the field of play. Maybe not against Croatia but against most oppositions.




I have thought of that Midfield combo before too. But looking at what we have ahead of us it looks unlikely.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:12pm On May 06, 2018
Loogan:
please you guys should cut our players balling in Europe some slack, especially the young guys, they cannot do more than they know. The problem with our talented exports is that they simply lack crucial mordern day football Education!!!.
As an agent, it's supposed to go beyond agreeing contracts and getting your cut but also nuturing, checking up, encouraging and most importantly Searching for knowledge in the game to develop my players game. sadly Nigerian agents do not give a shit, it's all play ball and get money, that is the biggest problem our players face. Already they lack football intelligence to compete with their mates, talent and insane hardwork most times carry African ballers to the top level.
I used to think for a player to reach a significant top class level he had to have a cycle of three years(seasons) where he would evolve and develop, it still is in most cases but these days it just takes a season for an unknown player to make a seasoned veteran look ordinary and suddenly raising thier game to a world class level (mahrez, Kante, ndidi, vardy, Kane) this is for those who tend to underestimate our young guns in this thread, our players may be inexperienced but they are up to the task(e.g. Olayinka, kalu). I'm sure we would be overconfident of our defense if dounramma the 18 year old keeper was Nigerian. Africans already have a disadvantage in Europe because they Favour their own more, players have to be twice as good.
For those doubting uzoho if only Mel wasent sacked he would probably have played over 20 Spanish la liga matches, you guys would have quickly endorsed him as the best keeper so why change your mind because of some clubs politics. We are lucky to have a talent like uzoho at a time carl is out coz believe me he's the best keeper we have in the team set up and better than some la liga golies. not playing for the first team those not mean he dosent have the mentality or talent to cut it in front of Messi. The boy is prolly our most modern goalkeeper with maturity beyond his years. Nigerian fans are to fickle.

For someone who claims to be an agent you make sweeping statements that are way too general. These are propositions without substance particularly the see the bold.

Do you know that at youth level there are multiple clubs that actively target African origin players because of thier inherent attributes. You could call that reverse racism.

For instance I have watched Chelsea fuels am U18 team where apart from the goalkeeper all the players were black.

Go to Man U look at the U18 and see how many are Nigerian origin. There is no youth academy in the top 6 of the EPL that doesn't have a considerable number of Nigerian origin youth players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:16pm On May 06, 2018
Joebie:
Iwobi is a #10

Let them keep wasting him on the wings. I'm almost tempted to call it mumuness
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:19pm On May 06, 2018
Icon4s:


Mikel is the Overwhelming favorite for that AM position. Anything that Moves him to play a deep midfield position is counter productive.
Mikel is the player that has the most intelligent Final passes in that team so we need him directly behind the forwards. Just those killer passes that will set the forwards on errands. Onazi, Joel, or Etebo can play at the CM position while iwobi can play from one of the wings positions.


Look at the Zambia and Argentina games... Iwobi and Mikel combination in the middle was really good.. See the freekick against Argentina and the third goal... They work well together when Iwobi comes to the middle.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:42pm On May 06, 2018
tbaba1234:
Iwobi is so much better in the middle.
That boy needs space. In the middle he feels he's in control but on the wings he has to have the lines and play touchline football
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 8:46pm On May 06, 2018
Icon4s:


You think Rohr is going to start with a 4-3-3 in this WC? Particularly that Croatian team that is loaded in the midfield?

Except you guys are just on a fantasy.


our game against Croatia will be a battle of the midfield , and who wins the battle at the centre wins the game , forget Manzukic ..... we have Ighalo ... i will not be surprise to see a midfield combo that will be too tight for them to break , but if we must win , we need a mobile midfield , ( the young blood midfield , with the experienced anchorman to pass the instructions . grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:51pm On May 06, 2018
Kog45:
Sir you are right.My formation is not to suit any player but to get result.

I remember Westerhoff did it against Zambia when Finidi failed woefully in the first half and he did unusual by introduced Samson Siasia in the same first half who we all believe is not a winger and he did it well.

Also against South Africa in Lagos Bonfrere Jo did unusual and start both Finidi and Tijani and this destabilised SA and before they know what was going on they are down.

I want goals against Croatia and i need Nacho,Moses and Ighalo to start.
I still.think you don't play a misfit to get goals...the few gambles that later turned success stories you game up there are one out of many thousands.... it's like messing up a good player

playing Moses Simon on the flank can still birth goals...all the coach need do is to communicate his aggressive strategies to them...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:53pm On May 06, 2018
edi287:

I've been saying the same thing on here for ages now. It would do our build up play a whole world of good. I'd play Etebo on the left so he and Iwobi can swap position during the game. Etebo with his crazy stamina would help defensively out wide and in the middle if required.
I agree with you...on this.
but to play and win Croatia.

it gonna depend on our wingers... that game will be won via wings.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:55pm On May 06, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Impressive. Did you watch the match?
the dude did well...especially his split passes to the wingers....
very precise he has a hand in about 3 of the goals.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:57pm On May 06, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Of course I am not surprised it is coming from you. cheesy You showed me before that you don't know about some formation terminologies .... so this is no surprise at all.

A wing forward and a Winger are not one and the same. Go do the research. I won't waste my breath or energy tonight aiit. wink



you mean like the role nancho and iwobi played against Argentina...in Russia friendly?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:01pm On May 06, 2018
Kog45:
Kai make i run before tbaba1234,Humility017 and Joebie catch me.
Lol.... abeg bro may we nor spoil the boy career....
He is less 20 years
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 9:14pm On May 06, 2018
from the highlights. iwobi had a pretty good game.
created two chances and scored a beautiful cr7 esque goal

in orther news. #puelOut

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:24pm On May 06, 2018
tbaba1234:


Look at the Zambia and Argentina games... Iwobi and Mikel combination in the middle was really good.. See the freekick against Argentina and the third goal... They work well together when Iwobi comes to the middle.

Against Zambia Iwobi played as a Winger (in both legs) and against Argentina Iwobi was a pseudo-9.

We cannot play Iwobi and Mikel together in the midfield. This is suggestive of a 4-3-3 formation where Mikel and Iwobi will sit behind the 3 forwards with the DM behind the duo. This could create gaps behind as we know Iwobi is a player that loves moving forward and taking on defenders. This could often reduce the midfield to a 4-2-4. Play that against Croatia and we get hammered.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:29pm On May 06, 2018
Humility017:

I still.think you don't play a misfit to get goals...the few gambles that later turned success stories you game up there are one out of many thousands.... it's like messing up a good player

playing Moses Simon on the flank can still birth goals...all the coach need do is to communicate his aggressive strategies to them...

Simon Moses is not productive enough to make any starting line up for any formation you propose.

He plays with so much energy and pace but his final products are always poor.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:48pm On May 06, 2018
Icon4s:


Against Zambia Iwobi played as a Winger (in both legs) and against Argentina Iwobi was a pseudo-9.

We cannot play Iwobi and Mikel together in the midfield. This is suggestive of a 4-3-3 formation where Mikel and Iwobi will sit behind the 3 forwards with the DM behind the duo. This could create gaps behind as we know Iwobi is a player that loves moving forward and taking on defenders. This could often reduce the midfield to a 4-2-4. Play that against Croatia and we get hammered.

Tactically, Iwobi looks much more dangerous when he comes inside even when he starts from the wings.. This is what we saw against Zambia.

Perhaps, the best solution is to start from the wings but give him the freedom to come to the middle and combine with Mikel.

That way, we do not necessarily sacrifice defensive strength.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:19pm On May 06, 2018
The role played by Both Nacho and Iwobi were false 9s or what we call pseudo-strikers. It was a double false 9 approach.



Humility017:

you mean like the role nancho and iwobi played against Argentina...in Russia friendly?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:32pm On May 06, 2018
Icon4s:


Are you talking about at their club or national teams?

Look at the case of Coach Rohr sending keeper trainers to work with our keepers. That is a clear case of a National team doing more to nurture their bright talents. A case of Rohr working with Awaziem and Osimhen in camp. The foreigners have a system that helps a large pool of their players have good nurturing before the National team proper. We do not, so we need to do more to help our players grow.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:38pm On May 06, 2018
komekn:


For someone who claims to be an agent you make sweeping statements that are way too general. These are propositions without substance particularly the see the bold.

Do you know that at youth level there are multiple clubs that actively target African origin players because of thier inherent attributes. You could call that reverse racism.

For instance I have watched Chelsea fuels am U18 team where apart from the goalkeeper all the players were black.

Go to Man U look at the U18 and see how many are Nigerian origin. There is no youth academy in the top 6 of the EPL that doesn't have a considerable number of Nigerian origin youth players.

African origin boys are still seen as home players. We are talking of African born players being at a disadvantage.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:52pm On May 06, 2018
lexyman:



our game against Croatia will be a battle of the midfield , and who wins the battle at the centre wins the game , forget Manzukic ..... we have Ighalo ... i will not be surprise to see a midfield combo that will be too tight for them to break , but if we must win , we need a mobile midfield , ( the young blood midfield , with the experienced anchorman to pass the instructions . grin



Against Croatia I'll want Rohr to start with a 3-5-2 ... A midfield combo of Ndidi- Etebo- Mikel.. Croatia midfield will likely have Rakitic Modric and Kovacic and we all know how good they are...
Ndidi with his pace and tackling skill can break down their passing... I'm picking Etebo over Ogu, Onazi and Joel due to his stamina and work rate... it will come in handy....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:54pm On May 06, 2018
Icon4s:

He is a natural number 10. No doubt.
now you understand
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:54pm On May 06, 2018
Icon4s:

He is a natural number 10. No doubt.
now you understand
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 11:03pm On May 06, 2018
Kog45:
Whao one of the promising boys then in Ilorin.
The guy can pass and open die!!! And he is a "seniorman" in the league.
I like him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:04pm On May 06, 2018
Mehn wat a day huh? Very proud of my guys.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:28pm On May 06, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
It could be our own Busquets-Iniesta-Xavi or Casemiro-Kroos-Modric combos.... this is no hype. The possibility is right there in front of us. Ndidi-Mikel-Iwobi could be a masterclass against opposing sides.

And with that kind of midfield, I will go with an attack of Iheanacho (WF), Victor Moses (WF) and Ighalo (CF).


I tell you, this could be our killer card right here... but.... *shrugs*


Replace Iheanacho with Henry Onyekuru in that attacking mix and witness fluidity and class like you have never seen before in the SE.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:49pm On May 06, 2018
Not happening. Iheanacho ahead of Onyekuru for me. In this set-up, I cannot replace Nacho's lethal instincts and technical aptitude with Onyekuru's driving runs when we have a Moses already. Never.

Victor Moses is there already. I need Nacho's intelligent movements and intricate passing to complement Moses' beautiful power dribbling runs... So it is Nacho over Onyekuru anytime anyday.


Meliforme:
Replace Iheanacho with Henry Onyekuru in that attacking mix and witness fluidity and class like you have never seen before in the SE.

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