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Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by imam07: 5:41pm On May 09, 2018
I don't argue with Muslims one on one but on faceless forum like this. It is highly risky arguing with you people one on one because I know far u can go because of your religion. Most of you are killer instinct.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 5:50pm On May 09, 2018
Na so the guy beat them two at their own game but now they can't argue one says KKK is defunct but the ones like Ilaga are not.
*leaves thread*
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by imam07: 5:51pm On May 09, 2018
I just read on twitter now that Iranian law makers set US flag ablaze in paliament and chanted "Dealth on America" after US pull out fro nuclear deal.
Is this not a sign of terrorism? This shows these people can kill Americans living in Iran. Presently Iranians citizens are living in US and they are save there. Hmmmmmm.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by imam07: 5:53pm On May 09, 2018
Ladyhippolyta88:
Na so the guy beat them two at their own game but now they can't argue one says KKK is defunct but the ones like Ilaga are not.
*leaves thread*
This woman go and cook for your husband because a married woman should not be here at this time. Abi u never marry in. If u never marry make u give me your contact.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 5:54pm On May 09, 2018
imam07:
This woman go and cook for your husband because a married woman should not be here at this time. Abi u never marry in. If u never marry make u give me your contact.
Carry your primitive and myopic thinking off my mentions.
My husband cooks for me.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by imam07: 5:59pm On May 09, 2018
Ladyhippolyta88:
Carry your primitive and myopic thinking off my mentions.
My husband cooks for me.
So u get mumu husband. Abeg no stab am the dey he stop cooking for u. I smell hot blood in your system.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 6:00pm On May 09, 2018
imam07:
So u get mumu husband. Abeg no stab am the dey he stop cooking for u. I smell hot blood in your system.
Watch your mouth boy you better respect yourself.
I can never really marry your type of men with shallow thinking.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by imam07: 6:05pm On May 09, 2018
Ladyhippolyta88:
Watch your mouth boy you better respect yourself.
I can never really marry your type of men with shallow thinking.
hmmm our comments have shown who u are. If u are going like this,men can be running from u. Calm down.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 6:07pm On May 09, 2018
imam07:
hmmm our comments have shown who u are. If u are going like this,men can be running from u. Calm down.
Speak for yourself,I can't pretend.This conversation is leading no where.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Nobody: 7:40pm On May 09, 2018
Ladyhippolyta88:
Carry your primitive and myopic thinking off my mentions.
My husband cooks for me.
Your husband does what for Youhuh

Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Nobody: 7:41pm On May 09, 2018
ocelot2006:
Then I suggest you read about the 2006 Lebanon war. Hezbollah pretty much won it.
Casualties and losses
Israel Defense Forces:
Killed: 121 killed
Wounded: 1,244 [15]

Equipment losses:
5** tanks damaged beyond repair (from ATGMs and IEDs)[16][17][18]
2 Apache helicopters lost (due to accidents, malfunctions)[19][20]
1 transport helicopter lost (due to a Hezbollah missile)[21]
1 Cobra helicopter lost (due to accident)[22]
1 aircraft crashed [23][24]
1 warship damaged (by a C-802 missile).[25][26]
Israeli civilians:
Killed: 44 [27] [28]
Wounded:1,384 [29]

Foreign civilians:
2 dead [30]
Hezbollah Fighters:
Killed: 250 (Hezbollah claim)[31]
≤500 (Lebanese officials' est.)[32]
500 (UN officials' est.)[33]
600–800 (IDF claim)[34][35]
Captured: 4 fighters[36]

Amal militia: 17 dead

LCP militia: 12 dead

PFLP-GC militia: 2 dead

IRGC: ≈6–9 dead (Lebanese officials' est.)[37][38]

Lebanese Armed Forces and Internal Security Forces: 43 dead[2]

Lebanese civilians (combatants included) and foreign civilians:
Dead:*
1,191 (Amnesty International)[39]
1,109 (including 250 Hezbollah fighters)(Human Rights Watch)[40][41]
1,191 (Lebanese government est.)[42][43][44][45][46]
Wounded:
4,409

Foreign civilians:
51 dead[30]
25 wounded

United Nations:
5 dead
12 wounded[


what does these figures mean?
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 7:55pm On May 09, 2018
Holamscoh:
Your husband does what for Youhuh
Yeah he cooks and cleans and is very domestic.He is my complete definition of a real man.
Got a problem with that?It is our lives not yours.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Nobody: 8:09pm On May 09, 2018
imam07:
I just read on twitter now that Iranian law makers set US flag ablaze in paliament and chanted "Dealth on America" after US pull out fro nuclear deal.
Is this not a sign of terrorism? This shows these people can kill Americans living in Iran. Presently Iranians citizens are living in US and they are save there. Hmmmmmm.
Muslims for you.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by princfred(m): 8:24pm On May 09, 2018
Ladyhippolyta88:
Na so the guy beat them two at their own game but now they can't argue one says KKK is defunct but the ones like Ilaga are not.
*leaves thread*
Beat who see retard. My tab charger head spoilt now I have to log in with phone which is not convenient hence I can't chat.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by ocelot2006(m): 8:25pm On May 09, 2018
Hanseel1:
Casualties and losses
Israel Defense Forces:
Killed: 121 killed
Wounded: 1,244 [15]

Equipment losses:
5** tanks damaged beyond repair (from ATGMs and IEDs)[16][17][18]
2 Apache helicopters lost (due to accidents, malfunctions)[19][20]
1 transport helicopter lost (due to a Hezbollah missile)[21]
1 Cobra helicopter lost (due to accident)[22]
1 aircraft crashed [23][24]
1 warship damaged (by a C-802 missile).[25][26]
Israeli civilians:
Killed: 44 [27] [28]
Wounded:1,384 [29]

Foreign civilians:
2 dead [30]
Hezbollah Fighters:
Killed: 250 (Hezbollah claim)[31]
≤500 (Lebanese officials' est.)[32]
500 (UN officials' est.)[33]
600–800 (IDF claim)[34][35]
Captured: 4 fighters[36]

Amal militia: 17 dead

LCP militia: 12 dead

PFLP-GC militia: 2 dead

IRGC: ≈6–9 dead (Lebanese officials' est.)[37][38]

Lebanese Armed Forces and Internal Security Forces: 43 dead[2]

Lebanese civilians (combatants included) and foreign civilians:
Dead:*
1,191 (Amnesty International)[39]
1,109 (including 250 Hezbollah fighters)(Human Rights Watch)[40][41]
1,191 (Lebanese government est.)[42][43][44][45][46]
Wounded:
4,409

Foreign civilians:
51 dead[30]
25 wounded

United Nations:
5 dead
12 wounded[


what does these figures mean?
The figures mean that for a small yet organized force facing a numerically and technologically superior and disciplined military, Hezbollah actually did remarkably well in that fight, especially against renowned elite units like Sayaret Matkal and Egoz.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by princfred(m): 8:27pm On May 09, 2018
ollah2:
Mark Anthony Conditt read it and committed terrorism with it alongside his peers. They studied Bible times without number and they are in a christian terrorist group. You are obviously a christian terrorist hence the reason you are yet to condemn what they did.
mumu where in the Bible did Jesus tell them to kill? Unlike in Koran. So if someone read Geography text book then kill without the author instructing him to kill , the book and author is responsible? I can't chat much so let me allow you since you can't reason logically and quote Biblical proof while your equally mumu fan who have no religious knowledge claims victory. I can't inconvenience myself just to chat with goats.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Nobody: 9:49pm On May 09, 2018
AZeD1:
Iran wasn't secretly building nukes. After the first attack, Iran moved their armory underground.

Russia says Iran is holding its end of the deal,
China says Iran is holding its end of the deal
The EU says Iran is holding its end of the deal.

This is not about Iranian supporters, it's about honorable people who expect deals to be followed.
Russia and China, and EU says what?

The issue isn't about honoring the deal, deal is not fair to the US.
Even if it isn't Trump that is at the helm of affairs today, the deal wouldn't have been renewed.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by wirinet(m): 10:17pm On May 09, 2018
kingkakaone:
Russia and China, and EU says what?

The issue isn't about honoring the deal, deal is not fair to the US.
Even if it isn't Trump that is at the helm of affairs today, the deal wouldn't have been renewed.
Please explain the bolded, how was the deal not fair to the US but fair to all other parties that signed the deal?
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Nobody: 10:21pm On May 09, 2018
wirinet:
Please explain the bolded, how was the deal not fair to the US but fair to all other parties that signed the deal?
Go and ask Trump.
I don't know why y'all are shouting...He already said the deal is unfair, he gave his reasons.
Please tune in to CNN and watch his love broadcast.
Thanks...

BTW, he even said he will sanction anyone who does trade with Iran.
Watch how EU will thread carefully because sanctions will be slapped on them.
Remember the steel tariff issue has not been ironed with the US o.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by wirinet(m): 10:26pm On May 09, 2018
kingkakaone:
Go and ask Trump.
I don't know why y'all are shouting...He already said the deal is unfair, he gave his reasons.
Please tune in to CNN and watch his love broadcast.
Thanks...
I watch CNN and I am yet to hear Trump's explanation on how the deal is unfair to the US.
Since you understand better as a die hard Trump supporter, why not educate us or at least show us a link where we can learn.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by wirinet(m): 10:32pm On May 09, 2018
kingkakaone:
BTW, he even said he will sanction anyone who does trade with Iran.
Watch how EU will thread carefully because sanctions will be slapped on them.
Remember the steel tariff issue has not been ironed with the US o.
So it is the US that will determine who the rest of the world will trade with? Maybe, Trump will decide what you will eat and drink, but others will find that arrogance quite insulting. EU countries, China and Russia have said they do not have problem with Iran and want to continue the deal with Iran. They are indirectly telling Trump to Bleep of.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by imam07: 10:42pm On May 09, 2018
wirinet:
I watch CNN and I am yet to hear Trump's explanation on how the deal is unfair to the US.
Since you understand better as a die hard Trump supporter, why not educate us or at least show us a link where we can learn.
Kai! Some people are funny. So u mean trump will not have his reasons for pulling out from the deal.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by wirinet(m): 10:52pm On May 09, 2018
imam07:
Kai! Some people are funny. So u mean trump will not have his reasons for pulling out from the deal.
I never said Trump did not have his reasons for pulling out of the deal, I asked you to explain why you said the deal is unfair to the US, what part of the deal do you understand is unfair to the US, or are you under hypnosis or spell by Trump?
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by AZeD1(m): 11:11pm On May 09, 2018
kingkakaone:
Russia and China, and EU says what?

The issue isn't about honoring the deal, deal is not fair to the US.
Even if it isn't Trump that is at the helm of affairs today, the deal wouldn't have been renewed.
How is the deal not fair to the US?
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Nobody: 11:16pm On May 09, 2018
wirinet:
So it is the US that will determine who the rest of the world will trade with? Maybe, Trump will decide what you will eat and drink, but others will find that arrogance quite insulting. EU countries, China and Russia have said they do not have problem with Iran and want to continue the deal with Iran. They are indirectly telling Trump to Bleep of.
Let's watch and see how it will end.
Thank u.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by imam07: 11:17pm On May 09, 2018
Somalia's shabaab stoned woman to death by marrying 11 man. Hmmmm. Mean while some of those who stoned her have raped before,have slept with more than 11 women before,have killed before and any evil act u can imagin, yet they went ahead and stone her to dealth. Is there no other means to discipline her? Can't they rehabilitate her?. This is not done in a civilized word.
These are the kind of people our fellow Nigerian Muslims follow and support. They see these killers as their mentor.
Watching video of isreali soldier killing innocent children in palestine. You will still see some Christians condemning this act on the media. Some people console themselves that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. To me,we don't worship the same God. Because my God does not instruct me to kill but i should love my neighbour as myself. If i should kill,it is my personal foolishness not because am a Christian.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by escodotman: 11:22pm On May 09, 2018
alabo1:
I amazed you still do not get the thrust of my post. Being president does not automatically make anybody an expert on international relations. Ronald Reagan was an actor before he became president. Did becoming president and meeting other presidents make him an automatic expert on International relations more than a havard professor in same field. I hope you realise that all presidents have advisers (usually accademics like myself) to advise on foreign policy? Donald Trump may be a billionaire which I am not but until the day he writes an approved PHD dissertation he is not my peer on International affairs. It is this kind of mentality that make people become servant to their peers or lesser.

Again the stock market crash is absolutely normal after such an announcement. However it will bounce back in less than 72 hours (remind me then if I am wrong) as market forces realign accordingly. However my point as an impartial observer remains - The US is the biggest loser in pulling out of the deal. It has lost further leverage in middle eastern affairs (following the proposed embassy relocation to Jerusalem and the failure in Syria) and also among her allies (The EU) who along with Russia and China are going ahead with the deal. Finally Trump's threats of maximum sanctions against Iran will not have a significant impact since Iran's largest trading partners Europe and Russia are not imposing any. Finally in anticipation of this Iran has also dumped the dollar in all Financial reporting which will further reduce impact of any further sanctions.

In conclusion as an unbiased accademic trained to analyze issues objectively I maintain that pulling out of the Iran Deal was ill advised (there was no justification since Iran was keeping to the deal as certified by the IAEA) and also strengthens the position of China and Russia on the International stage. Furthermore placing blanket sanctions on European Firms doing business in Iran will be counter productive on America as their businesses will also suffer and further erode trans Atlantic relations. A few companies such as aerospace and deffence companies with sensitive technology and partnerships with American Companies will leave but others will! find workarounds to do business in Iran since their countries are still in the accord. That's the way it works. Read wide. Think free. Peace



Also for your information China is the world's largest economy by purchasing power and second only to the US in GDP - which she is set to surpass by 2030. Our world demographics are changing but you will not see the trend when all your data is from Fox and CNN. Lol
Mr, I must confess you are the funniest person in the world! You still don't know anything about international relations more than your state governor in the state you are in Nigeria...meanwhile you claim you know more than the President of a country, who attends various U.N heads of state meetings, holds various international meetings and summits with other world leaders at home and abroad, probably speak on phone with tens or hundreds of other Presidents every week, have different Ambassadors to many other countries at his beckonhuh Well what can I say.... Goodluck.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by imam07: 11:25pm On May 09, 2018
kingkakaone:
Let's watch and see how it will end.
Thank u.
If you have power,you use it the way it will favour. If Iran has the kind of military and economic might the US govt has,they can use it as they like. They will even abuse it. They never get better power set see how they are misbehaving.
Osama believed he had the power,that is why he struck US. So what are we saying.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by imam07: 11:31pm On May 09, 2018
escodotman:
Mr, I must confess you are the funniest person in the world! You still don't know anything about international relations more than your state governor in the state you are in Nigeria...meanwhile you claim you know more than the President of a country, who attends various U.N heads of state meetings, holds various international meetings and summits with other world leaders at home and abroad, probably speak on phone with tens or hundreds of other Presidents every week, have different Ambassadors to many other countries at his beckonhuh Well what can I say.... Goodluck.
Why will u say he does not know anything about is happening outside. He must have watched 24hrs movie to know all what is happening in Arab countries.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Nobody: 11:46pm On May 09, 2018
imam07:
If you have power,you use it the way it will favour. If Iran has the kind of military and economic might the US govt has,they can use it as they like. They will even abuse it. They never get better power set see how they are misbehaving.
Osama believed he had the power,that is why he struck US. So what are we saying.
I tell u.
Iran has the tendency to abuse power.
Even human right in Iran is not free self.
What are their supporters even saying?
Mr Trump made a comment on. CNN this evening...
"there will be dangerous consequences should Iran go ahead with their nuclear program"..
Let's all just watch and see how this will end. But trust me, all these people making noise will be the one to shout America is bullying them later.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Nobody: 11:56pm On May 09, 2018
escodotman:
Mr, I must confess you are the funniest person in the world! You still don't know anything about international relations more than your state governor in the state you are in Nigeria...meanwhile you claim you know more than the President of a country, who attends various U.N heads of state meetings, holds various international meetings and summits with other world leaders at home and abroad, probably speak on phone with tens or hundreds of other Presidents every week, have different Ambassadors to many other countries at his beckonhuh Well what can I say.... Goodluck.
That guy is not neutral in his analysis at all.
Does he think Trump would have taken his decision without consulting his advisers, many of whom have been in the system for decades?
He talked about most tech firms moving to Iran to trade, which tech firm will move into a country without human right?
The guy obviously doesn't know that if the EU has issues with the US, they are at a more disadvantaged position. NATO is powered by America and they know if they make any mistake to push America out, they will be crushed piece by piece.
EU that has lost her relevance? Why is Britain opting out?
Those small countries that cannot survive come together to form a bond that is not as strong as 20 states in the US so.
How big is Netherlands, or Belgium or the others both economically and technology?
I just laugh at some people who doesn't know that the EU together has European Space Agency (virtually unknown by most) while only the US has NASA which is recognized worldwide.
Re: BREAKING!!..Trump Pulls Out Of Nuclear Deal With Iran by Nobody: 11:57pm On May 09, 2018
imam07:
Somalia's shabaab stoned woman to death by marrying 11 man. Hmmmm. Mean while some of those who stoned her have raped before,have slept with more than 11 women before,have killed before and any evil act u can imagin, yet they went ahead and stone her to dealth. Is there no other means to discipline her? Can't they rehabilitate her?. This is not done in a civilized word.
These are the kind of people our fellow Nigerian Muslims follow and support. They see these killers as their mentor.
Watching video of isreali soldier killing innocent children in palestine. You will still see some Christians condemning this act on the media. Some people console themselves that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. To me,we don't worship the same God. Because my God does not instruct me to kill but i should love my neighbour as myself. If i should kill,it is my personal foolishness not because am a Christian.
That's the Hypocrisy with most people.
Even here on Nairaland, u will know them.
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