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| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by musicwriter(op): 8:02pm On May 12, 2018*. Modified: 10:34am On May 13, 2018 |
[quote author=felaismyher post=67504427][/quote]The whole world was once inhabited by black people. See Britain discovers their ancestors were black https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/02/07/first-britons-black-natural-history-museum-dna-study-reveals/amp/ The place known today as Palestine was also part of Africa in ancient time; including Arabia, all those places turned white as the Africans were interbreeding with Asians, and Asians with Europeans. The people that lived in Palestine at that time, no doubt were blacks. The late president of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser, while on an interview on television, said "you (Israel) will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black but came back white. We cannot accept you! .'' The people in neighboring countries with Israel knows there were all once black and they don't deny it. Shango conquering up to Benin republic is definitely a myth. No God fought anybody ever in the history of the world. However, there were wars of course, but our wars were child-play when compared to European wars. Yes, gun powder was invented first between China and Africa, but it wans't called gun powder or used as ammunition. It was used ceremonially, like during certain festivities to give gun salute. Its still used in Igboland today to give salute to the dead during burial ceremony. The problem is not that there is white man saying we cannot develop, rather, our unfortunate contact with them destroyed our social, political, cultural, educational, religious, language, and our self esteem. When someone give you language, education, religion, the person can go to sleep and watch you enslave yourself, and that's what we're doing in Africa today. To stop enslaving ourselves to extinction, we must restore our language, education, and religion back to the ''follow come'', then modernize it. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by IndustryEight: 8:28pm On May 12, 2018 |
. I have said this time and time again. Christianity is a scam!!! Let's not even talk Islam. Can you imagine, a God sitting on a Throne, Haba? My people? Throne? . Jesus never existed, I say this again Jesus NEVER Existed. Well my father nah pastor, he already knows I cannot do Christianity. The problem is this high spiritual believers don't read, fooooolish people cannot see the lies hidden, the bible is an alien religion. Chai!!!. I was not created to worship any deity. Jesus never Existed. Thanks for your time. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by felaismyhero(m): 8:51pm On May 12, 2018 |
[quote author=musicwriter post=67506942]while i lack strong evidence,i still doubt that judeans in roman times were black.and if u are trying to insinuate that jews are black,hope u know that only hamitic people are black,and jews are semitic people.this may sound foolish,but i blame the loss of our cultural pride on the gods and the poor religious institutions that uphold them.u know culture and religion are like 5 and 6.our gods and the african traditional religions failed africans;they could not help them in their time of need.one of the hardest things to do is to convert a people,the whites did it by exposing the gods-just d same way u and i are trying to expose the scam called christianity.there is a point we wud reach wit our proofs dat xtians too wud see the foolishness which is their religion.that exactly was wat happened wit the africans. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by OkaiCorne(m): 9:09pm On May 12, 2018 |
musicwriter:You haven't said anything on Muhammad... How is he fake? |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by felaismyhero(m): 9:12pm On May 12, 2018 |
@musicwriter,did u just say shango conquering dahomey(in benin republic) is a myth? if it were the fact that fire comes out of his mouth,or that he strikes people with thunder.i wud have agreed they were just myths.but that he was a great warrior? nah nah nah,he was africa's own alexander the great,the grandson of oranmiyan the first alaafin of oyo.he was an expansionist-the reason why yoruba is spoken in lagos and benin republic today.u can read about him,u wud surely find this facts about him |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by musicwriter(op): 9:12pm On May 12, 2018 |
[quote author=felaismyhero post=67508069][/quote]They wrote it down themselves that they were black. Solomon at Song of Solomon 1:5-6, said he was black. This has nothing to do with Igbos saying they're Jews or not. Ethiopians still identify as Jews. In far away Namibia, there have black Jewish communities over there. The Jews only dispersed in 70 AD after the destruction of their temple. Again, the whole world was once black; including Britain. Song of Solomon 1:5-6. ''I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon. 6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.'' |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by felaismyhero(m): 9:18pm On May 12, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:seriously! are u waiting for that? the moment u can prove dat jesus is fake,u have automatically proven the same of muhammad.muhammad just dubbed the bible simple |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by musicwriter(op): 9:24pm On May 12, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:This thread was going smoothly before people came in and derailed it, thereby, causing me to lose interest. I may or may not make further posts, but Islam has nothing going for it once Christianity is done with. Islam is a Jonny-just-come religion that the followers can easily see the fakery in it. Any so called holy koran given to Muhammad and written by Allah, was actually one of many books hidden in a cave by persecuted religious sects, when Emperor Constantine and others were raiding houses killing people who read alternative bible not recommended by Rome. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by musicwriter(op): 9:25pm On May 12, 2018 |
felaismyhero:You're right!. That's what I just told him. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by felaismyhero(m): 9:28pm On May 12, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:please add deeply.never reason deeply.some of them do reason,infact dats y there are different denomination(=a pastor's own ideas when some things in the bible were not making sense to him).but to think deep thoughts like "am i not being deceived?",such thoughts they attribute to the devil |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by felaismyhero(m): 9:28pm On May 12, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED:please add deeply.never reason deeply.some of them do reason,infact dats y there are different denomination(=a pastor's own ideas when some things in the bible were not making sense to him).but to think deep thoughts like "am i not being deceived?" or "is this not a scam?",such thoughts they attribute to the devil |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by felaismyhero(m): 9:52pm On May 12, 2018 |
musicwriter:hmm,these verses u quoted are kind of weird o.i'll assume black was beautiful then and solomon was portraying himself as black to entice the gals.i remember a part in jeremiah where god was asking if an ethiopian can change his skin,i think that question sounds dumb if directed to a black person.and if blacks became whites,does that mean we also became asians and native americans? how did our eyes become slanty to become asians?(by asians,i mean japanese,koreans and chinese) |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by OkaiCorne(m): 10:08pm On May 12, 2018 |
musicwriter:Muhammad lived between 570-632 AD long after Constantine died and long after the Roman Empire collapsed... So how did the Koran exist at a time Constantine was raiding houses and killing people? |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by musicwriter(op): 10:12pm On May 12, 2018 |
felaismyhero:Of course, it didn't happen overnight. It took at least 60,000 years, and when you factor albinos were also born, helping create all the mix we have today. The first video included in the article I sent you the other day explained it. Meanwhile, see Britain discovers their ancestors were black https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/02/07/first-britons-black-natural-history-museum-dna-study-reveals/ |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by musicwriter(op): 10:29pm On May 12, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:The books were hidden in earthenware pots, anywhere from 325 AD after Rome converted to Christianity and started killing people who read other books they didn't recommend. Early Christian and Gnostic books were still being discovered in caves in Egypt, in the town of Nag Hammadi, as recent as 1945. Between 1946, 1947, 1956, even more ''dead sea scrolls'' were discovered in caves in Qumram, Palestine. If Muhammad wasn't carried away by excitement and he looked carefully, he could have actually discovered those books. There're still undiscovered books hidden away in caves right now. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by OkaiCorne(m): 10:47pm On May 12, 2018 |
musicwriter:You mentioned the Koran given to Muhammad by Allah was one of the numerous books hidden in a cave when Constantine was persecuting religious sects. But that cannot be possible since Muhammad lived between 570-632AD long after the Roman Empire collapsed... How does your response validate the Koran existing at a point when Constantine was raiding houses and killing people for reading alternative bibles? |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by musicwriter(op): 11:17pm On May 12, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:I said the books were in caves up till 1956. Between 325 AD till today, there are still books hidden somewhere in a cave now. The book wasn't called Koran, Muhammad named it koran. He could have called it anything. By the time you're talking about, that region had rejected Christianity as a result of Constantin's deceit, because they knew he was lying about a risen savior, so they abandoned Judaism/Christianity, and as usual they began looking for a new God to deliver them. Once they discovered Allah, they would begin a bitter war with the Roman empire in what is called the crusades. For more information, you can check the video I posted earlier on history of the Roman catholic church or better look for a video of the crusades on youtude. They were 9 crusades, I believe. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by orunto27: 6:29am On May 13, 2018 |
A Human that is due to get lost and die, behaves like you are doing right now. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by orunto27: 6:49am On May 13, 2018 |
You want us to read you and discard Knowledge acquired over many Centuries without concrete evidence and serious marketting? What is in This for me you worse than senseless Apes? Did you attend The Universities of SakSarky in Iran, Amaechi and Bokoharam wherever? |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by OkaiCorne(m): 8:01am On May 13, 2018 |
musicwriter:According to historical sources, Muhammad encountered Angel (Injeel) Gabriel in a cave... Does that automatically translate to getting to Quran from a cave? |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by hopefulLandlord: 8:24am On May 13, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:WTF! which "Historical Sources" said Muhammad encountered Gabriel in a cave? We should be careful the way we use the word "Historical Sources" and not use it for theological claims |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by OkaiCorne(m): 8:28am On May 13, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:No need to go too far... even the Muslim scholars can corroborate this...or prove it false... I think you should also channel your concerns on "historical sources" to the OP as well... |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by hopefulLandlord: 8:36am On May 13, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:Being Muslim scholars show where their loyalties lie Historical sources are almost always silent about spiritual claims so any historical source worth taking serious would, at most, say Muhammed went into a cave and came out with a book or something. Once we start saying historical sources concluded a spiritual incidence did occur then we should question such sources as it means almost anything goes |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by BossLaifay(f): 9:45am On May 13, 2018 |
Student125:Abi o. So that we can read in peace. This attack is something else. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by BossLaifay(f): 10:06am On May 13, 2018 |
musicwriter:Exactly! I'm no scholar and I was born into a christian family but I think this right here is what vaxx has failed to understand about your argument. There are scholarly references about a jesus here and there piecing together his existence. HOWEVER, the Jesus we have come to know did not exist! As long as he was not born by a virgin, walk on water and a host of other things, he was well cooked up and rebranded to make him more appealing and to give hope to the hopeless for selfish reasons. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by Nobody: 10:22am On May 13, 2018 |
Sir, Jesus Christ is an avatar of the metaphor of Christ Consciousness. That is jargon, but then let us break it down. In the early days, there was no way to educate the Humanity on Frequencies, Waves and Energy. So it was necessary to tell them a story, to personify forces of nature and the assign the Luminaries in the skies certain characters in mythology. Jesus Christ is the metaphor for Cosmic Consciousness, in order to bring Christians out of their dreamy programming, the word Christ Consciousness was coined. But in essence, it presents the Cosmic Awareness that occurs when the Human has broken free from the illusion of mass control and allow the brain to function as that of a new born baby, so it takes a lot to de-program the people. That is what is meant by being born again. When it comes to Mohammedans, that was also designed as an improvement on the earlier Savior Program called Christianity, to capture those who were not falling for Christianity, because of the story of virgin birth. So it was necessary to mop up the remaining people under Islam. Those who did not fall for both religions in Africa, were tagged idol worshippers and stigmatized, to make them alienating to the folks in order to force them into mass control, and it worked. As for you my friend, I type this message to you, cos you are under a certain level of control too, Why ? Well, truth is that there is something others who have gone beyond you on this research could tell you now, and you will insult the person, just like the Christians will insult you and muslims too. That is a fact. Let me end this by saying, that there is nothing to be worshipped, but there is something to be respected. And when your time comes if you study hard enough, you will have your epiphany moment, that will open your eyes to what you really are. When that time comes, you will be confused, you will question your sanity. But the advise is to continue to live within the matrix as if you are outside of it. That is what Jesus meant when he said; You are in the world, but not of the world. Also note that these religions have truths infused with lies. It had to be done so, cos when people see the truth, they will believe the lies too. It cant all be lies. But it took time for me to separate the rice from the chaff, and I am afraid that many will live and die as slaves to a larger system. De-learn everything you were taught. It is tough to de-learn, cos you all were programmed with lies. When you do that, you are free from dogma, from fear, from karma and then you will see the world what what it is. This is a simulated reality, it is the Prime Creator, seeing the world through different eyes. The Observer sees the world through our eyes and thinks the world into existence. Thoughts are alive. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by MuttleyLaff: 10:34am On May 13, 2018 |
vaxx: MuttleyLaff: vaxx:Whats yes no? Its either, yes or its either no yes no, is not on You can't eat your cake, and have it too. vaxx:You being a self-titled traditionalist, a publicly self-confessed Ogun worshipper to be precise apart from what legend states, can you attest of any rigorous study that supports the claim, that Ogun descended down to earth from heaven climbing on a spiderweb? vaxx:Nothing can be done without being faith based. So are you ruling out that Jesus is born by a virgin? Do you have issues with reconciling the fact that in-vitro gametogenesis (IVG) research discoveries have revealed that, in the not-so-distant future, eggs and sperms may no longer be needed to make a baby? The penny drops. Looks like, God, in this area of virgin birth expertise, is way ahead of science, as science is doing catching up, with this particular skill, learning and trying to figure out how it is done |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by Student125(m): 11:29am On May 13, 2018 |
BossLaifay:No mind him |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by musicwriter(op): 11:56am On May 13, 2018 |
Solstar:Of course, I understand that, though not much about the workings of the matrix. The problem is how to get our people understand this in mass. However, when you talk about Christ consciousness, you're also talking about Buddha, Krishna, Baal, Horus, etc consciousness, because people had ascended to that state of consciousness before any Jesus was ever born. That state of awareness is universal and doesn't belong to any authority figure, except the almighty God, in fact, it could be the point the almighty God knows himself through man- vice versa. I believe you know that. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by Nobody: 12:04pm On May 13, 2018 |
musicwriter:Everyone has potential to access the Cosmic Consciousness, not every has, not everyone will, not everyone can. You can not know all that runs on 96.9Fm by tuning in there for 2hrs a day and listening to the broadcast and disconnecting. To know the channel and the broadcast, you should be operating on that system 724. You need to be born again first, then tune there, and your Soul will have to undergo alchemical purification from the knowledge of illumination. You can know what is going on there, does not mean you can run on that level consciousness without burning out your body, it requires more than knowing. It requires a real awakening. |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by OkaiCorne(m): 12:18pm On May 13, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:Being Muslim scholars shows they might be biased...but what of the other sources the OP has quoted to claim Jesus is fake? Aren't these from people who have an axe to grind against Christianity? It also shows where they are leaning towards... Take the Greek philosopher Celsus...who came up with the Pantera fatherhood of Jesus theory...it was noted that this man was extremely anti-christian... |
| Re: How I Discovered Jesus Christ Is Fake. Muhammad Too by chemystery: 12:28pm On May 13, 2018 |
musicwriter, what can you say about this? HOW THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CREATED ISLAM |
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. I have said this time and time again. Christianity is a scam!!! Let's not even talk Islam. Can you imagine, a God sitting on a Throne, Haba? My people? Throne? . Jesus never existed, I say this again Jesus NEVER Existed. Well my father nah pastor, he already knows I cannot do Christianity. The problem is this high spiritual believers don't read, fooooolish people cannot see the lies hidden, the bible is an alien religion. Chai!!!. I was not created to worship any deity. Jesus never Existed. Thanks for your time.