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The whole world was once inhabited by black people. See Britain discovers their ancestors were black https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/02/07/first-britons-black-natural-history-museum-dna-study-reveals/amp/

The place known today as Palestine was also part of Africa in ancient time; including Arabia, all those places turned white as the Africans were interbreeding with Asians, and Asians with Europeans.

The people that lived in Palestine at that time, no doubt were blacks. The late president of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser, while on an interview on television, said "you (Israel) will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black but came back white. We cannot accept you! .''

The people in neighboring countries with Israel knows there were all once black and they don't deny it.

Shango conquering up to Benin republic is definitely a myth. No God fought anybody ever in the history of the world. However, there were wars of course, but our wars were child-play when compared to European wars.

Yes, gun powder was invented first between China and Africa, but it wans't called gun powder or used as ammunition. It was used ceremonially, like during certain festivities to give gun salute. Its still used in Igboland today to give salute to the dead during burial ceremony.

The problem is not that there is white man saying we cannot develop, rather, our unfortunate contact with them destroyed our social, political, cultural, educational, religious, language, and our self esteem. When someone give you language, education, religion, the person can go to sleep and watch you enslave yourself, and that's what we're doing in Africa today. To stop enslaving ourselves to extinction, we must restore our language, education, and religion back to the ''follow come'', then modernize it.

. I have said this time and time again. Christianity is a scam!!! Let's not even talk Islam. Can you imagine, a God sitting on a Throne, Haba? My people? Throne? . Jesus never existed, I say this again Jesus NEVER Existed. Well my father nah pastor, he already knows I cannot do Christianity. The problem is this high spiritual believers don't read, fooooolish people cannot see the lies hidden, the bible is an alien religion. Chai!!!. I was not created to worship any deity. Jesus never Existed. Thanks for your time.

[quote author=musicwriter post=67506942]while i lack strong evidence,i still doubt that judeans in roman times were black.and if u are trying to insinuate that jews are black,hope u know that only hamitic people are black,and jews are semitic people.this may sound foolish,but i blame the loss of our cultural pride on the gods and the poor religious institutions that uphold them.u know culture and religion are like 5 and 6.our gods and the african traditional religions failed africans;they could not help them in their time of need.one of the hardest things to do is to convert a people,the whites did it by exposing the gods-just d same way u and i are trying to expose the scam called christianity.there is a point we wud reach wit our proofs dat xtians too wud see the foolishness which is their religion.that exactly was wat happened wit the africans.

musicwriter:


The whole world was once inhabited by black people. See Britain discovers their ancestors were black https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/02/07/first-britons-black-natural-history-museum-dna-study-reveals/amp/

The place known today as Palestine was also part of Africa in ancient time; including Arabia, all those places turned white as the Africans were interbreeding with Asians, and Asians with Europeans.

The people that lived in Palestine at that time, no doubt were blacks. The late president of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser, while on an interview on television, said "you (Israel) will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black but came back white. We cannot except you! .''

The people in neighboring countries with Israel knows there were all once black and they don't dent it.

Shango conquering up to Benin republic is definitely a myth. No God fought anybody ever in the history of the world. However, there were wars of course, but our wars were child-play when compared to European wars.

Yes, gun powder was invented first between China and Africa, but it wans't called gun powder or used as ammunition. It was used ceremonially, like during certain festivities to give gun salute. Its still used in Igboland today to give salute to the dead during burial ceremony.

The problem is not that there is white man saying we cannot develop, rather, our unfortunate contact with them destroyed our social, political, cultural, educational, religious, language, and our self esteem. When someone give you language, education, religion, the person can go to sleep and watch you enslave yourself, and that's what we're doing in Africa today. To stop enslaving ourselves to extinction, we must restore our language, education, and religion back to the ''follow come'', then modernize it.

You haven't said anything on Muhammad...
How is he fake?

@musicwriter,did u just say shango conquering dahomey(in benin republic) is a myth? if it were the fact that fire comes out of his mouth,or that he strikes people with thunder.i wud have agreed they were just myths.but that he was a great warrior? nah nah nah,he was africa's own alexander the great,the grandson of oranmiyan the first alaafin of oyo.he was an expansionist-the reason why yoruba is spoken in lagos and benin republic today.u can read about him,u wud surely find this facts about him

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They wrote it down themselves that they were black. Solomon at Song of Solomon 1:5-6, said he was black. This has nothing to do with Igbos saying they're Jews or not. Ethiopians still identify as Jews. In far away Namibia, there have black Jewish communities over there. The Jews only dispersed in 70 AD after the destruction of their temple. Again, the whole world was once black; including Britain.

Song of Solomon 1:5-6.

''I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.''

OkaiCorne:


You haven't said anything on Muhammad...
How is he fake?

seriously! are u waiting for that? the moment u can prove dat jesus is fake,u have automatically proven the same of muhammad.muhammad just dubbed the bible simple

OkaiCorne:


You haven't said anything on Muhammad...
How is he fake?

This thread was going smoothly before people came in and derailed it, thereby, causing me to lose interest. I may or may not make further posts, but Islam has nothing going for it once Christianity is done with. Islam is a Jonny-just-come religion that the followers can easily see the fakery in it. Any so called holy koran given to Muhammad and written by Allah, was actually one of many books hidden in a cave by persecuted religious sects, when Emperor Constantine and others were raiding houses killing people who read alternative bible not recommended by Rome.

felaismyhero:
seriously! are u waiting for that? the moment u can prove dat jesus is fake,u have automatically proven the same of muhammad.muhammad just dubbed the bible simple

You're right!. That's what I just told him.

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THE ONE WAY TO REMAIN RELIGIOUS IS TO NEVER REASON.

please add deeply.never reason deeply.some of them do reason,infact dats y there are different denomination(=a pastor's own ideas when some things in the bible were not making sense to him).but to think deep thoughts like "am i not being deceived?",such thoughts they attribute to the devil

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THE ONE WAY TO REMAIN RELIGIOUS IS TO NEVER REASON.

please add deeply.never reason deeply.some of them do reason,infact dats y there are different denomination(=a pastor's own ideas when some things in the bible were not making sense to him).but to think deep thoughts like "am i not being deceived?" or "is this not a scam?",such thoughts they attribute to the devil

musicwriter:

Song of Solomon 1:5-6.

''I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.''

hmm,these verses u quoted are kind of weird o.i'll assume black was beautiful then and solomon was portraying himself as black to entice the gals.i remember a part in jeremiah where god was asking if an ethiopian can change his skin,i think that question sounds dumb if directed to a black person.and if blacks became whites,does that mean we also became asians and native americans? how did our eyes become slanty to become asians?(by asians,i mean japanese,koreans and chinese)

musicwriter:


This thread was going smoothly before people came in and derailed it, thereby, causing me to lose interest. I may or may not make further posts, but Islam has nothing going for it once Christianity is done with. Islam is a Jonny-just-come religion that the followers can easily see the fakery in it. Any so called holy koran given to Muhammad and written by Allah, was actually one of many books hidden in a cave by persecuted religious sects, when Emperor Constantine and others were raiding houses killing people who read alternative bible not recommended by Rome.

Muhammad lived between 570-632 AD long after Constantine died and long after the Roman Empire collapsed...

So how did the Koran exist at a time Constantine was raiding houses and killing people?

felaismyhero:
hmm,these verses u quoted are kind of weird o.i'll assume black was beautiful then and solomon was portraying himself as black to entice the gals.i remember a part in jeremiah where god was asking if an ethiopian can change his skin,i think that question sounds dumb if directed to a black person.and if blacks became whites,does that mean we also became asians and native americans? how did our eyes become slanty to become asians?(by asians,i mean japanese,koreans and chinese)

Of course, it didn't happen overnight. It took at least 60,000 years, and when you factor albinos were also born, helping create all the mix we have today. The first video included in the article I sent you the other day explained it.

Meanwhile, see Britain discovers their ancestors were black https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/02/07/first-britons-black-natural-history-museum-dna-study-reveals/

OkaiCorne:


Muhammad lived between 570-632 AD long after Constantine died and long after the Roman Empire collapsed...

So how did the Koran exist at a time Constantine was raiding houses and killing people?

The books were hidden in earthenware pots, anywhere from 325 AD after Rome converted to Christianity and started killing people who read other books they didn't recommend. Early Christian and Gnostic books were still being discovered in caves in Egypt, in the town of Nag Hammadi, as recent as 1945.

Between 1946, 1947, 1956, even more ''dead sea scrolls'' were discovered in caves in Qumram, Palestine. If Muhammad wasn't carried away by excitement and he looked carefully, he could have actually discovered those books.

There're still undiscovered books hidden away in caves right now.

musicwriter:


The books were hidden in earthenware pots, anywhere from 325 AD after Rome converted to Christianity and started killing people who read other books they didn't recommend. Early Christian and Gnostic books were still being discovered in caves in Egypt, in the town of Nag Hammadi, as recent as 1945.

Between 1946, 1947, 1956, even more ''dead sea scrolls'' were discovered in caves in Qumram, Palestine. If Muhammad wasn't carried away by excitement and he looked carefully, he could have actually discovered those books.

There're still undiscovered books hidden away in caves right now.

You mentioned the Koran given to Muhammad by Allah was one of the numerous books hidden in a cave when Constantine was persecuting religious sects.

But that cannot be possible since Muhammad lived between 570-632AD long after the Roman Empire collapsed...

How does your response validate the Koran existing at a point when Constantine was raiding houses and killing people for reading alternative bibles?

OkaiCorne:


You mentioned the Koran given to Muhammad by Allah was one of the numerous books hidden in a cave when Constantine was persecuting religious sects.

But that cannot be possible since Muhammad lived between 570-632AD long after the Roman Empire collapsed...

How does your response validate the Koran existing at a point when Constantine was raiding houses and killing people for reading alternative bibles?

I said the books were in caves up till 1956. Between 325 AD till today, there are still books hidden somewhere in a cave now. The book wasn't called Koran, Muhammad named it koran. He could have called it anything.

By the time you're talking about, that region had rejected Christianity as a result of Constantin's deceit, because they knew he was lying about a risen savior, so they abandoned Judaism/Christianity, and as usual they began looking for a new God to deliver them. Once they discovered Allah, they would begin a bitter war with the Roman empire in what is called the crusades. For more information, you can check the video I posted earlier on history of the Roman catholic church or better look for a video of the crusades on youtude. They were 9 crusades, I believe.

A Human that is due to get lost and die, behaves like you are doing right now.

You want us to read you and discard Knowledge acquired over many Centuries without concrete evidence and serious marketting?
What is in This for me you worse than senseless Apes?
Did you attend The Universities of SakSarky in Iran, Amaechi and Bokoharam wherever?

musicwriter:


I said the books were in caves up till 1956. Between 325 AD till today, there are still books hidden somewhere in a cave now. The book wasn't called Koran, Muhammad named it koran. He could have called it anything.

By the time you're talking about, that region had rejected Christianity as a result of Constantin's deceit, because they knew he was lying about a risen savior, so they abandoned Judaism/Christianity, and as usual they began looking for a new God to deliver them. Once they discovered Allah, they would begin a bitter war with the Roman empire in what is called the crusades. For more information, you can check the video I posted earlier on history of the Roman catholic church or better look for a video of the crusades on youtude. They were 9 crusades, I believe.

According to historical sources, Muhammad encountered Angel (Injeel) Gabriel in a cave...

Does that automatically translate to getting to Quran from a cave?

OkaiCorne:


According to historical sources, Muhammad encountered Angel (Injeel) Gabriel in a cave...

Does that automatically translate to getting to Quran from a cave?

WTF! which "Historical Sources" said Muhammad encountered Gabriel in a cave?

We should be careful the way we use the word "Historical Sources" and not use it for theological claims

hopefulLandlord:


WTF! which "Historical Sources" said Muhammad encountered Gabriel in a cave?

We should be careful the way we use the word "Historical Sources" and not use it for theological claims

No need to go too far... even the Muslim scholars can corroborate this...or prove it false...


I think you should also channel your concerns on "historical sources" to the OP as well...

OkaiCorne:


No need to go too far... even the Muslim scholars can corroborate this...or prove it false...


I think you should also channel your concerns on "historical sources" to the OP as well...

Being Muslim scholars show where their loyalties lie

Historical sources are almost always silent about spiritual claims so any historical source worth taking serious would, at most, say Muhammed went into a cave and came out with a book or something. Once we start saying historical sources concluded a spiritual incidence did occur then we should question such sources as it means almost anything goes

Student125:

@vax plz leave ur questions till Op conclude his write up, u can note them for now. thanks

Abi o. So that we can read in peace. This attack is something else.

musicwriter:


Laughable. Very laughable!.

If there was no Jesus with virgin birth, then there was no biblical Jesus. The Jesus of the Bible was born by a virgin. He also walked on water, he raised the dead, he died and resurrected.

Exactly! I'm no scholar and I was born into a christian family but I think this right here is what vaxx has failed to understand about your argument.

There are scholarly references about a jesus here and there piecing together his existence. HOWEVER, the Jesus we have come to know did not exist! As long as he was not born by a virgin, walk on water and a host of other things, he was well cooked up and rebranded to make him more appealing and to give hope to the hopeless for selfish reasons.

Sir,

Jesus Christ is an avatar of the metaphor of Christ Consciousness. That is jargon, but then let us break it down. In the early days, there was no way to educate the Humanity on Frequencies, Waves and Energy. So it was necessary to tell them a story, to personify forces of nature and the assign the Luminaries in the skies certain characters in mythology.

Jesus Christ is the metaphor for Cosmic Consciousness, in order to bring Christians out of their dreamy programming, the word Christ Consciousness was coined. But in essence, it presents the Cosmic Awareness that occurs when the Human has broken free from the illusion of mass control and allow the brain to function as that of a new born baby, so it takes a lot to de-program the people. That is what is meant by being born again.

When it comes to Mohammedans, that was also designed as an improvement on the earlier Savior Program called Christianity, to capture those who were not falling for Christianity, because of the story of virgin birth. So it was necessary to mop up the remaining people under Islam.

Those who did not fall for both religions in Africa, were tagged idol worshippers and stigmatized, to make them alienating to the folks in order to force them into mass control, and it worked.

As for you my friend, I type this message to you, cos you are under a certain level of control too, Why ? Well, truth is that there is something others who have gone beyond you on this research could tell you now, and you will insult the person, just like the Christians will insult you and muslims too. That is a fact.

Let me end this by saying, that there is nothing to be worshipped, but there is something to be respected. And when your time comes if you study hard enough, you will have your epiphany moment, that will open your eyes to what you really are.

When that time comes, you will be confused, you will question your sanity. But the advise is to continue to live within the matrix as if you are outside of it.

That is what Jesus meant when he said; You are in the world, but not of the world.

Also note that these religions have truths infused with lies. It had to be done so, cos when people see the truth, they will believe the lies too. It cant all be lies.

But it took time for me to separate the rice from the chaff, and I am afraid that many will live and die as slaves to a larger system.

De-learn everything you were taught. It is tough to de-learn, cos you all were programmed with lies. When you do that, you are free from dogma, from fear, from karma and then you will see the world what what it is.

This is a simulated reality, it is the Prime Creator, seeing the world through different eyes. The Observer sees the world through our eyes and thinks the world into existence. Thoughts are alive.

vaxx:
go thru this thread below,
i pointed out a lot of evidence of biblical Jesus that has been confirm to be real
not just by road side historians but from the reputable university source..( Cambridge and Emory)
what is yet to be confirm is the miracle and the virgin birth ascribe to him

MuttleyLaff:
Please clearly express or rephrase what you mean by the above emboldened
Are you waving off and dismissing the miracle virgin birth of Jesus Christ?

vaxx:
yes no

Whats yes no?
Its either, yes or its either no
yes no, is not on
You can't eat your cake, and have it too.

vaxx:
Single rigorous study to show he was born by a virgin, apart from what the bible stated

You being a self-titled traditionalist, a publicly self-confessed Ogun worshipper to be precise
apart from what legend states, can you attest of any rigorous study that supports the claim,
that Ogun descended down to earth from heaven climbing on a spiderweb?

vaxx:
so the acceptance that he was born by a virgin is faith based in which i have no issues with.

Nothing can be done without being faith based.

So are you ruling out that Jesus is born by a virgin?

Do you have issues with reconciling the fact that in-vitro gametogenesis (IVG) research discoveries
have revealed that, in the not-so-distant future, eggs and sperms may no longer be needed to make a baby?

The penny drops.
Looks like, God, in this area of virgin birth expertise, is way ahead of science,
as science is doing catching up, with this particular skill, learning and trying to figure out how it is done

BossLaifay:
Abi o. So that we can read in peace. This attack is something else.

No mind him

Solstar:
Sir,

Jesus Christ is an avatar of the metaphor of Christ Consciousness. That is jargon, but then let us break it down. In the early days, there was no way to educate the Humanity on Frequencies, Waves and Energy. So it was necessary to tell them a story, to personify forces of nature and the assign the Luminaries in the skies certain characters in mythology.

Jesus Christ is the metaphor for Cosmic Consciousness, in order to bring Christians out of their dreamy programming, the word Christ Consciousness was coined. But in essence, it presents the Cosmic Awareness that occurs when the Human has broken free from the illusion of mass control and allow the brain to function as that of a new born baby, so it takes a lot to de-program the people. That is what is meant by being born again.

When it comes to Mohammedans, that was also designed as an improvement on the earlier Savior Program called Christianity, to capture those who were not falling for Christianity, because of the story of virgin birth. So it was necessary to mop up the remaining people under Islam.

Those who did not fall for both religions in Africa, were tagged idol worshippers and stigmatized, to make them alienating to the folks in order to force them into mass control, and it worked.

As for you my friend, I type this message to you, cos you are under a certain level of control too, Why ? Well, truth is that there is something others who have gone beyond you on this research could tell you now, and you will insult the person, just like the Christians will insult you and muslims too. That is a fact.

Let me end this by saying, that there is nothing to be worshipped, but there is something to be respected. And when your time comes if you study hard enough, you will have your epiphany moment, that will open your eyes to what you really are.

When that time comes, you will be confused, you will question your sanity. But the advise is to continue to live within the matrix as if you are outside of it.

That is what Jesus meant when he said; You are in the world, but not of the world.

Also note that these religions have truths infused with lies. It had to be done so, cos when people see the truth, they will believe the lies too. It cant all be lies.

But it took time for me to separate the rice from the chaff, and I am afraid that many will live and die as slaves to a larger system.

De-learn everything you were taught. It is tough to de-learn, cos you all were programmed with lies. When you do that, you are free from dogma, from fear, from karma and then you will see the world what what it is.

This is a simulated reality, it is the Prime Creator, seeing the world through different eyes. The Observer sees the world through our eyes and thinks the world into existence. Thoughts are alive.

Of course, I understand that, though not much about the workings of the matrix. The problem is how to get our people understand this in mass.

However, when you talk about Christ consciousness, you're also talking about Buddha, Krishna, Baal, Horus, etc consciousness, because people had ascended to that state of consciousness before any Jesus was ever born. That state of awareness is universal and doesn't belong to any authority figure, except the almighty God, in fact, it could be the point the almighty God knows himself through man- vice versa. I believe you know that.

musicwriter:


Of course, I understand that, though not much about the workings of the matrix. The problem is how to get our people understand this in mass.

However, when you talk about Christ consciousness, you're also talking about Buddha, Krishna, Baal, Horus, etc consciousness, because people had ascended to that state of consciousness before any Jesus was ever born. That state of awareness is universal and doesn't belong to any authority figure, except the almighty God, in fact, it could be the point the almighty God knows himself through man- vice versa. I believe you know that.

Everyone has potential to access the Cosmic Consciousness, not every has, not everyone will, not everyone can. You can not know all that runs on 96.9Fm by tuning in there for 2hrs a day and listening to the broadcast and disconnecting. To know the channel and the broadcast, you should be operating on that system 724. You need to be born again first, then tune there, and your Soul will have to undergo alchemical purification from the knowledge of illumination.

You can know what is going on there, does not mean you can run on that level consciousness without burning out your body, it requires more than knowing. It requires a real awakening.

hopefulLandlord:
Being Muslim scholars show where their loyalties lie

Historical sources are almost always silent about spiritual claims so any historical source worth taking serious would, at most, say Muhammed went into a cave and came out with a book or something. Once we start saying historical sources concluded a spiritual incidence did occur then we should question such sources as it means almost anything goes

Being Muslim scholars shows they might be biased...but what of the other sources the OP has quoted to claim Jesus is fake?

Aren't these from people who have an axe to grind against Christianity? It also shows where they are leaning towards...

Take the Greek philosopher Celsus...who came up with the Pantera fatherhood of Jesus theory...it was noted that this man was extremely anti-christian...

musicwriter, what can you say about this?

HOW THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH CREATED ISLAM

What I'm going to tell you is what I learned in secret briefings in the Vatican when I was a Jesuit priest, under oath and induction.


A Jesuit cardinal named Augustine Bea showed us how desperately the Roman Catholics wanted Jerusalem at the end of the third century. Because of its religious history and its strategic location, the Holy City was considered a priceless treasure.



A scheme had to be developed to make Jerusalem a Roman Catholic city. The great untapped source of manpower that could do this job was the children of Ishmael.

The poor Arabs fell victim to one of the most clever plans ever devised by the Powers of Darkness.

Early Christians went everywhere with the gospel, setting up small churches, but they met heavy opposition.

Both the Jews and the Roman government persecuted the believers in Christ to stop their spread.


But the Jews rebelled against Rome, and in 70 A.D. Roman armies under General Titus smashed Jerusalem and destroyed the great Jewish temple which was the heart of Jewish worship - in fulfillment of Christ's prophecy in Matthew 24:2.

On this holy place, where the temple once stood, the Dome of the Rock Mosque stands today as Islam's second most holy place.

Sweeping changes were in the wind. Corruption, apathy, greed, cruelty, perversion, and rebellion were eating at the Roman Empire, and it was ready to collapse. The persecution against Christians was useless, as they continued to lay down their lives for the gospel of Christ.


The only way Satan could stop this thrust was to create a counterfeit "Christian" religion to destroy the work of God.

The solution was in Rome. Their religion had come from ancient Babylon, and all it needed was a face-lift. This didn't happen overnight, but began in the writings of the "early church fathers".


It was through their writings that a new religion would take shape. The statue of Jupiter in Rome was eventually called St. Peter, and the statue of Venus was changed to the Virgin Mary. The site chosen for its headquarters was on one of the seven hills called "Vaticanus" - the place of diving serpent where the satanic Temple of Janus stood.


The great counterfeit religion was Roman Catholicism, called "Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth" (Revelation 17:5). She was raised up to block the gospel, slaughter the believers in Christ, establish religions, create wars, and make the nations drunk with the wine of her fornication as we will see.

Three major religions have one thing in common - each has a holy place where they look for guidance. Roman Catholicism looks to the Vatican as the Holy City. The Jews look to the wailing wall in Jerusalem, and the Muslims look to Mecca as their Holy City.

Each group believes that they receive certain types of blessings for the rest of their lives for visiting their holy place.

In the beginning, Arab visitors would bring gifts to the "House of God" and the keepers of the Kaaba were gracious to all who came. Some brought their idols and, not wanting to offend these people, their idols were placed inside the sanctuary.

It is said that the Jews looked upon the Kaaba as an outlying tabernacle of the Lord, with veneration until it became polluted with idols.


In a tribal contention over a well (Zamzam) the treasure of the Kaaba and the offerings that pilgrims had given were dumped down the well and it was filled with sand; it disappeared.

Many years later Adb al-Muttalib was given visions telling him where to find the well and its treasure. He became the hero of Mecca, and he was destined to become the grandfather of Muhammad.


Before this time, Augustine became the bishop of North Africa and was effective in winning Arabs to Roman Catholicism, including whole tribes. It was among these Arab converts to Catholicism that the concept of looking for an Arab prophet developed.


Muhammad's father died from illness, and sons born to great Arab families in places like Mecca were sent into the desert to be suckled and weaned and spend some of their childhood with Bedouin tribes for training and to avoid the plagues in the cities.



After his mother and grandfather also died, Muhammad was with his uncle when a Roman Catholic monk learned of his identity and said:

"Take your brother's son back to his country and guard him against the Jews, for by God, if they see him and know of him that which I know, they will construe evil against him. Great things are in store for this brother's son of yours."

The Roman Catholic monk had fanned the flames for future Jewish persecutions at the hands of the followers of Muhammad.



The Vatican desperately wanted Jerusalem because of its religious significance, but was blocked by the Jews.


Another problem was the true Christians in North Africa who preached the gospel. Roman Catholicism was growing in power, but would not tolerate opposition. Somehow the Vatican had to create a weapon to eliminate both the Jews and the true Christian believers who refused to accept Roman Catholicism. Looking to North Africa, they saw the multitudes of Arabs as a source of manpower to do their dirty work.


Some Arabs had become Roman Catholic, and could be used in reporting information to leaders in Rome. Others were used in an underground spy network to carry out Rome's master plan to control the great multitudes of Arabs who rejected Catholicism.


When "St. Augustine" appeared on the scene, he knew what was going on. His monasteries served as bases to seek out and destroy Bible manuscripts owned by the true Christians.


The Vatican wanted to create a messiah for the Arabs, someone they could raise up as a great leader, a man with charisma whom they could train, and eventually unite all the non-Catholic Arabs behind him, creating a mighty army that would ultimately capture Jerusalem for the pope.



In the Vatican briefing, Cardinal Bea told us this story:

A wealthy Arabian lady who was a faithful follower of the pope played a tremendous part in this drama. She was a widow named Khadijah. She gave her wealth to the church and retired to a convent, but was given an assignment.


She was to find a brilliant young man who could be used by the Vatican to create a new religion and become the messiah for the children of Ishmael.



Khadijah had a cousin named Waraquah, who was also a very faithful Roman Catholic, and the Vatican placed him in a critical role as Muhammad's advisor. He had tremendous influence on Muhammad.



Teachers were sent to young Muhammad and he had intensive training. Muhammad studied the works of St. Augustine, which prepared him for his "great calling". The Vatican had Catholic Arabs across North Africa spread the story of a great one who was about to rise up among the people and be the chosen one of their God.


While Muhammad was being prepared, he was told that his enemies were the Jews and that the only true Christians were Roman Catholic. He was taught that others calling themselves Christians were actually wicked impostors and should be destroyed. Many Muslims believe this.


Muhammad began receiving "divine revelations" and his wife's Catholic cousin Waraquah helped interpret them. From this came the Koran. In the fifth year of Muhammad's mission, persecution came against his followers because they refused to worship the idols in the Kaaba.


Muhammad instructed some of them to flee to Abysinnia, where Negus, the Roman Catholic king, accepted them because Muhammad's views on the virgin Mary were so close to Roman Catholic doctrine. These Muslims received protection from Catholic kings because of Muhammad's revelations.


Muhammad later conquered Mecca and the Kaaba was cleared of idols.



History proves that before Islam came into existence, the Sabeans in Arabia worshiped the moon-god who was married to the sun-god. They gave birth to three goddesses, who were worshipped throughout the Arab world as "Daughters of Allah". An idol excavated at Hazor in Palestine in the 1950s shows Allah sitting on a throne with the crescent moon on his chest.


Muhammad claimed he had a vision from Allah and was told:

"You are the messenger of Allah."

This began his career as a prophet and he received many messages. By the time Muhammad died, the religion of Islam was exploding. The nomadic Arab tribes were joining forces in the name of Allah and his prophet, Muhammad.


Some of Muhammad's writings were placed in the Koran, others were never published. They are now in the hands of high ranking holy men (Ayatollahs) in the Islamic faith.

When Cardinal Bea shared this information with us in the Vatican, he said:

"These writings are guarded because they contain information that links the Vatican to the creation of Islam."

Both sides have so much information on each other that, if exposed, it could create such a scandal that it would be a disaster for both religions.



In their "holy" book, the Koran, Christ is regarded as only a prophet. If the pope was his representative on Earth, then he also must be a prophet of God. This caused the followers of Muhammad to fear and respect the pope as another "holy man".


The pope moved quickly and issued bulls granting the Arab generals permission to invade and conquer the nations of North Africa.



The Vatican helped to finance the building of these massive Islamic armies in exchange for three favors:

Eliminate the Jews and Christians (the latter were regarded as true believers, which they called infidels)

Protect the Augustinian monks and Roman Catholics

Conquer Jerusalem for "His Holiness" in the Vatican

As time went by, the power of Islam became tremendous.



Jews and true Christians were slaughtered, and Jerusalem fell into their hands. Roman Catholics were never attacked, nor were their shrines, during this time. But when the pope asked for Jerusalem, he was surprised at their denial!



The Arab generals had such military success that they could not be intimidated by the pope - nothing could stand in the way of their own plan.


Under Waraquah's direction, Muhammad wrote that Abraham offered Ishmael as a sacrifice. The Bible says that Isaac was the sacrifice, but Muhammad removed Isaac's name and inserted Ishmael's name. As a result of this and Muhammad's vision, the faithful Muslims built a mosque, the Dome of the Rock, in Ishmael's honor, on the site of the Jewish temple that was destroyed in 70 A.D. This made Jerusalem the second most holy place in the Islamic faith.



How could they give such a sacred shrine to the pope without causing a revolt?


The pope realized what they had created was out of control when he heard they were calling "His Holiness" an infidel. The Muslim generals were determined to conquer the world for Allah, and now they turned toward Europe.


Islamic ambassadors approached the pope and asked for papal bulls to give them permission to invade European countries. The Vatican was outraged; war was inevitable. Temporal power and control of the world was considered the basic right of the pope.



He wouldn't think of sharing it with those whom he considered heathens.









The pope raised up his armies and called them "crusades" to hold back the children of Ishmael from grabbing Catholic Europe.



The crusades lasted for centuries and Jerusalem slipped out of the pope's hands. Turkey fell, and Spain and Portugal were invaded by Islamic forces. In Portugal, they called a mountain village "Fatima" in honor of Muhammad's daughter, never dreaming it would become world famous.


Years later, when the Muslim armies were poised on the islands of Sardinia and Corsica, to invade Italy, there was a serious problem. The Islamic generals realized they were too far extended. It was time for peace talks. One of the negotiators was Francis of Assisi.



As a result, the Muslims were allowed to occupy Turkey in a "Christian" world, and the Catholics were allowed to occupy Lebanon in the Arab world. It was also agreed that the Muslims could build mosques in Catholic countries without interference, as long as Roman Catholicism could flourish in Arab countries.


Cardinal Bea told us in Vatican briefings that both the Muslims and Roman Catholics agreed to block and destroy the efforts of their common enemy: Bible-believing Christian missionaries.



Through these concordats, Satan blocked the children of Ishmael from a knowledge of scripture and the truth.


The Islamic community looks on the Bible-believing missionary as a devil who brings poison to the children of Allah. This explains years of ministry in those countries with little results.


The Vatican also engineers a campaign of hatred between the Muslim Arabs and the Jews. Before this, they had co-existed peacefully. A light control was kept on Muslims - from the Ayatollah, down through the Islamic priests, nuns, and monks.


The next plan was to control Islam. In 1910, Portugal was going Socialistic. Red flags were appearing and the Catholic Church was facing a major problem. Increasing numbers were against the Church.


The Jesuits wanted Russia involved, and the location ofthis vision at Fatima could play a key part in pulling Islam to the Mother Church. In 1917, the Virgin appeared in Fatima. "The Mother of God" was a smashing success, playing to overflow crowds. As a result, the Socialists of Portugal suffered a major defeat.


Roman Catholics worldwide began praying for the conversion of Russia, and the Jesuits invented the novenas to Fatima, which they could perform throughout North Africa, spreading good public relations to the Muslim world.



The Arabs thought they were honoring the daughter of Muhammad, which is what the Jesuits wanted them to believe.


As a result of the vision of Fatima, Pope Pius XII ordered his Nazi army to crush Russia and the Orthodox religion, and make Russia Roman Catholic. A few years after he lost World War II, Pope Pius XII startled the world with his phony "dancing Sun" vision to keep Fatima in the news. It was great religious show biz and the world swallowed it.



Not surprisingly, Pope Pius was the only one to see this vision.


As a result, a group of followers has grown into a Blue Army worldwide, totaling millions of faithful Roman Catholics ready to die for the Blessed Virgin. But we haven't seen anything yet. The Jesuits have their Virgin Mary scheduled to appear four or five times in China, Russia, and major appearance in the U.S.


What has this got to do with Islam?



Note Bishop Sheen's statement:

"Our Lady's appearances at Fatima marked the turning point in the history of the world's 350 million Muslims. After the death of his daughter, Muhammad wrote that she 'is the most holy of all women in Paradise, next to Mary.'



He believed that the Virgin Mary chose to be known as Our Lady of Fatima as a sign and a pledge that the Muslims who believe in Christ's virgin birth, will come to believe in his divinity."

Bishop Sheen pointed out that the pilgrim virgin statues of Our Lady of Fatima were enthusiastically received by Muslims in Africa, India, and elsewhere, and that many Muslims are now coming into the Roman Catholic Church.



DR. ALBERTO RIVERA

1988




References

Double Cross, Chick Publ, pgs 13,14.

The Meaning Of The Glorious Koran, Pickthall, Mentor Books, pgs 220,221.

Muhammad, Martin Lings, pgs 81-84.