Mujtahida:

Abeg nawwww Oasis. Your last line na new testament in savagery. I dey here dey laugh like craze man. Egedeman no get Egede
TheSuperNerd help me with that meme of a Chinese looking baby laughing with one hands raised like him.
wan pee

Icon4s:


Bro, the remedy is to stay away from the politics section. It will save you plenty of headaches.

ChrisKels:


Chai milordy u follow dey handle me roughly like this? I thought u were my man ooo

soetanoreoluwa:


Last time I checked you said you have no Friends, no foes you are just a lone ranger...

What happened to that?

Martz101:


was this a mistake?

i think his better in the right

OMANBALA1:
Just finished watching the second half and to be honest I was impressed with their ball distribution and cohesiveness.

*My findings.

Iwobi is an attacking midfield gem...He need to play there more often and gain confidence. His confidence is growing by every game.

Mikel is better in the CM,he is not an attacking threat.

Ndidi is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode...He is definitely our best player against Czeck republic followed by Iwobi, John Ogu, Ighalo ,Ebuehi and Balogun .

Balogun is coming back to form, he probably learned Omeruo is just waiting for either of him nor Ekong to slip.

Ebuehi is a beauty to watch, he make Shehu look like a joke.

Ogu is so smooth with his beautiful spray of passes and always well positioned.

Ekong was also very solid and held his own but Balogun is coming back very strong to retain the warrior status he once held.

Idowu does not belong to this class of ballers...Dude is amateurish and look really soft.

I don't think Mikel has anything more to offer...just a leadership figure, it beginning to look obvious that Iwobi is a better attacking midfielder.

*Team weaknesses.
Moses is selfish and his nonchalant attitude affects the whole team. All Moses need is little dribbles here and there with those daring runs and quickly release the phucking ball and don't choke the game.



*Closing comments.

This team can work if they gell. This team is very young and talented and we must look beyond the world cup....Daalu nu

goldfish80:


First of all, having the ability of making critical analysis of what is in front of you is not defeatist mindset. Defeatist mindset is yielding to the opposition even before the fight began, I have been careful not to do this because I know Croatia, Iceland and the Argies have their own problems, but that doesn't mean I will the ostrich and deny the problems of our own team.

Saying this is "just a friendly" is not enough because history will always remind us 100 years from now that on the 6th of June, 2018 Nigeria lost to Czech Republic.
The example of the Siasia team loss to Denmark shouldnt be used as an excuse because a huge chunk of the members of the team didn't make it to Rio. Also the overraged players were not involved in that mini tournament. It is not the same scenario with this Super Eagles team that we know 98% of those who will make the team to Russia since January this year. Simy Nwankwo was just the sole gate crasher.

Finally, I wouldn't fall for using past examples to judge this team because it was a different scenario we have as compared to now. In 1998, we know the problem with the team, things like player animosity with each other, fights and disagreements over money, appointment of a new coach few months to the world cup. The scenario was totally different from what we have now.
The Super Eagles have never had it this good. These guys are flying on chattered flights, bonuses have been settled, no change of coaches, first class camping site and the same set of players. What's the excuse of these shabby performances?

goldfish80:


First of all, having the ability of making critical analysis of what is in front of you is not defeatist mindset. Defeatist mindset is yielding to the opposition even before the fight began, I have been careful not to do this because I know Croatia, Iceland and the Argies have their own problems, but that doesn't mean I will the ostrich and deny the problems of our own team.

Saying this is "just a friendly" is not enough because history will always remind us 100 years from now that on the 6th of June, 2018 Nigeria lost to Czech Republic.
The example of the Siasia team loss to Denmark shouldnt be used as an excuse because a huge chunk of the members of the team didn't make it to Rio. Also the overraged players were not involved in that mini tournament. It is not the same scenario with this Super Eagles team that we know 98% of those who will make the team to Russia since January this year. Simy Nwankwo was just the sole gate crasher.

Finally, I wouldn't fall for using past examples to judge this team because it was a different scenario we have as compared to now. In 1998, we know the problem with the team, things like player animosity with each other, fights and disagreements over money, appointment of a new coach few months to the world cup. The scenario was totally different from what we have now.
The Super Eagles have never had it this good. These guys are flying on chattered flights, bonuses have been settled, no change of coaches, first class camping site and the same set of players. What's the excuse of these shabby performances?

chimzyblack:
First of all We need to learn how to defend setpieces.I noticed it against England and today against Cezch.
This team will Come home early if Rohr does not realise that IWOBI is the key ingredient to this super eagles team.
In the game against England and today against Serbia the creative aspect of our midfield was non existent.
And you have IWOBI on that team?
I am on my knees Someone please tell Rohr
PLAY IWOBI as a 10 or else we will find it hard to score goals in Russia.
In a 3-5-2 formation, IWOBI must be part of the front two, with Ebuehi, Nididi, Mikel,Etebo and Idowu completing the 5 in the middle.
In a 4-2-3-1 formation IWOBI must be the AM while mikel plays the CMf role
I must say this MIKEL is not the key, the closer IWOBI is to the goal of the opponents the higher the chances that will be created and the more goals we will score

3-5-2
Uzoho
Omeruo-Balogun-Ekong
Ebuehi-Nididi-Mikel-Etebo-Idowu
IWOBI - iheanacho/Ighalo

4-2-3-1
uzoho
Ebuehi-Ekong-Balogun-idowu
Nididi-Mikel
Moses-IWOBI-musa
ighalo

Theflint1:

Iwobi played most of the 2nd half yesterday as a deep lying playmaker... How many times have you seen him play that position?

If playing that position is best for the team he should play it. Idowu vs Messi is a scary prospect.

Moses playing far back to help Idowu with defending reduces his attacking threat especially since he's more of a dribbler (more distance to cover), making him look lost as we have seen in the past few games. He should play as a wing back allowing for an extra man up front.

soetanoreoluwa:


Yes that's the motto of US seal and Steve farrar also used it too...

It Is a good book

He also author Point man... He's first book

Mujtahida:

Shey you guys can see emotive bias passing as analysis. A whole team of 23 players it's Victor Moses that is the weakness.

I'm not surprised though.

charlesemeka85:
just watched the full match on youtube. we fans tend to over exaggerate things instead putting it down the way it is. the team as a unit played well and the understanding and cohesion is getting better as the day goes. the only minus i see in the team is brian idowu who i dont from day one expect much from. rohr dropping aina for him and echiejile is questionable. if he utilized the chances he had, he would have scored a goal and atleast gotten an assist. he was the biggest culprit from my observation. shehu should fight for a place in the midfield because benfica's new signing is one hell of a talent and with his strong performance against argentina, england and czech he is the undisputed rightback of the team. deploying ogu at the back is another good gamble by from rohr. his calmness and ability to see a pass helps the team to build up play from the back which is a big plus. mikel had a good game but i still believe his best position in this team is the central midfield position. iwobi is a steal from England.he was magnificent and the teams biggest hope to open up an oppositions defence. rohr should utilize this quality of his by pushing him forward to play behind any of ighalo/iheanancho which will afford him the opportunity to have a sniff at goal. victor moses need to be cautioned because he is becoming more individualistic than playing for the team. lastly francis uzoho's confidence is growing by the day. even if rohr gets sacked after the world cup, unearthing a goal minder who will serve the team for the next 10 years will be his greatest achievement.

Mickael2:



The level of sentiments here is just....alarming.

I for one would expect Icon4s of all people to know that in 1998 due to our bad performances the players took over, in fact we virtually didn't have a coach, the team picked itself and played the way they wanted. We won against Spain but we lost our last two matches 3-1 to Paraguay and 4-1 to Denmark. Considering the talent in that team we should have performed better if we had a coach.


Now this team hardly possess the talent. It's bemusing that they will say that the team showed it's character against Argentina and the same set of people will say that friendly games don't matter. Czech were roundly humiliated by Australia but for some reason we(some) want to believe that the coach is hiding his preferred tactics, that's the most nonsensical deduction any sane human being could ever make. so the coach is making us lose these matches so we would be considered the underdogs? So what were we before? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Back then the talk was that Mikel would make our team better but we have passed African opponents. We have gotten to a stage where all eleven players matter and the coach's ineptitude has been laid bare but some want to believe that he is losing just so that we will be considered underdogs? I don't know if I should call that sentiments or outright stupidity. I do support the SE though but at least everyone knows I have had my reservations towards Gernot Rohr and others are starting to see why(just like I had with Onazi)

Icon4s:


Ow of course we have definitely known more about this team and we have learnt a lot.

And I find it even more perplexing that you can completely write off a team based merely on friendly matches. And even more perplexing that you will always seize every opportunity to talk down a national team you claim to support.

I have been long enough in this game to know the extent to which outcome of friendlies can affect the performance of a team when the major tournaments starts.

Even just recently Siasia's U23 team lost 6-1 to Denmark in a friendly game just before the kickoff of the Olympics. But when both teams met again but this time at the Olympics what was the scoreline? 2-0 for Nigeria.

See, I am not afraid of failure. Even if the team goes to Russia and loses all 3 matches will heaven fall?
I cannot just go into a major tournament like the FIFA WC with the mindset that we will crash out at the group stage.

Finally, always having a defeatist mindset will do one more harm than good. It pays to always remain positive even when all odds are against you. That alone can spur you on to success in life. Food for thought.

phreakabit:


I like this, but considering the fact that Ndidi likes to bomb forward, how do we get him to sit deep?

ChrisKels:


Chai milordy u follow dey handle me roughly like this? I thought u were my man ooo

Icon4s:


So in 1998 players animosity, fight and disagreements over moneys made us lose 3-0 and 5-1 to Yugoslavia and Holland respectively?

If you check through you will see an earlier post where I highlighted what we should be worried about and also some positives from the friendlies. I also said the team deserves all the criticism it will receive from now till 16th June.

No matter what you cannot tell me you don't see some positives about the team.

You earlier said I am applying damage control measures. What damage? Are friendly results part of the points to be gathered for the World Cup? Do they count?

See, I have hopes in this team to Soar high in that group. But if they fail to do well so what?

You want to end your own World Cup even before the kick off. That is your own. I am going into the world cup with expectations. It is once in 4 years and I want to enjoy it please.

nextlevel2222:
This team that lack cohesion, organization even characters. Charity begins with friendly games. Dnt think Rohr is playing mind games, Serious work needs to be done before the day.... I just pray Rohr use the right players to execute our matches at the world cup

Mickael2:



The level of sentiments here is just....alarming.

I for one would expect Icon4s of all people to know that in 1998 due to our bad performances the players took over, in fact we virtually didn't have a coach, the team picked itself and played the way they wanted. We won against Spain but we lost our last two matches 3-1 to Paraguay and 4-1 to Denmark. Considering the talent in that team we should have performed better if we had a coach.


Now this team hardly possess the talent. It's bemusing that they will say that the team showed it's character against Argentina and the same set of people will say that friendly games don't matter. Czech were roundly humiliated by Australia but for some reason we(some) want to believe that the coach is hiding his preferred tactics, that's the most nonsensical deduction any sane human being could ever make. so the coach is making us lose these matches so we would be considered the underdogs? So what were we before? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Back then the talk was that Mikel would make our team better but we have passed African opponents. We have gotten to a stage where all eleven players matter and the coach's ineptitude has been laid bare but some want to believe that he is losing just so that we will be considered underdogs? I don't know if I should call that sentiments or outright stupidity. I do support the SE though but at least everyone knows I have had my reservations towards Gernot Rohr and others are starting to see why(just like I had with Onazi)

ChrisKels:


Jesu!!! Una mean me for this thread ooo

Wetin I do abeg wey una no fit forgive me?

Mujtahida:

My man na just the fun factor I dey into ooo.

I couldn't come to your defence. Kai dem really enter you porously yesterday. Na safarigirl first land the first blow. Before I go say Egede, na so blows start to comot from left, right and centre. I laugh tire.
Dem really tackle you rough.

You ma no try. You be pillar naw
Next time hold side.

ChrisKels:
Lol my people una no get chill oo. About yesterday Lol, i made almost everybody wield one weapon or the other ready to haul it at me hahahaha, guys I needed to shake the thread for fun, some caught it, some didn't. Klexycole, come on, I have known your moniker for long and we have discussed one or two things together before, na just just say your punch heavy, I come say make drop u one to gain balance. Bro no think am.

But its quite funny that the honorable members of this thread thought I was serious when I wrote that Rohr be sacked before the Croatia match Chai

I believe Rohr ain't blind to his errors and how to curtail them. Hence, he already knows his go-to formation and the personnel to execute it. Even though I feel I am kinda deceiving myself by saying this but I believe Rohr is trynna play smart on his opponents so as to take them by surprise at the main event proper.


That said, my expectations remain low until we bring down Croatia and Iceland.

Soar on the galant soldiers of the black race

Dodorima to all Eagulians in here.
✊

Oga, you no well oo.

goldfish80:


Loosing to Yugoslavia is no shame at all, knowing the turpsy turvy and bad air surrounding the team at the time. By the way, we are talking about a blockbuster country called Yugoslavia. A country that upon their break up, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia,Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina have all qualified individually for the world cup, they are hardly Czech Republic. Even Netherlands assembled some of the best players in the world at the time who went and played the best football in France 98, if not for the painful loss in the semifinals, they were about the only team that could have stopped France winning the cup. These guy played against a Nigerian team who switched tactics durring the usual team prayers before kickoff in the middle of the pitch.

Finally, make exception for you saying I have a defeatist mentality, especially coming from you who wrote off the chances of the Chan team even before the first whistle. I recall you saying you dont think the team will win any of their group games and their failure will result in Nigeria dropping in Fifa ranking. I haven't even written off the chances of this team but I am called a defeatist.

ChrisKels:
Lol my people una no get chill oo. About yesterday Lol, i made almost everybody wield one weapon or the other ready to haul it at me hahahaha, guys I needed to shake the thread for fun, some caught it, some didn't. Klexycole, come on, I have known your moniker for long and we have discussed one or two things together before, na just just say your punch heavy, I come say make drop u one to gain balance. Bro no think am.

But its quite funny that the honorable members of this thread thought I was serious when I wrote that Rohr be sacked before the Croatia match Chai

I believe Rohr ain't blind to his errors and how to curtail them. Hence, he already knows his go-to formation and the personnel to execute it. Even though I feel I am kinda deceiving myself by saying this but I believe Rohr is trynna play smart on his opponents so as to take them by surprise at the main event proper.


That said, my expectations remain low until we bring down Croatia and Iceland.

Soar on the galant soldiers of the black race

Dodorima to all Eagulians in here.
✊

darkelf:


Bros, I don't think any coach just decides to loose too but you see, the purpose of a friendly is to try out tactics and formations while trying as much as possible to hide your tactics from opposition scouts. Now, if the tactics used in a friendly leads to a win, fine but if not, we try out other tactics based on scenarios that may arise during the competition proper.

Let's still give them the benefit of the doubt, at least until after the mundial.

Mujtahida:

Shey you guys can see emotive bias passing as analysis. A whole team of 23 players it's Victor Moses that is the weakness.

I'm not surprised though.

Icon4s:


We are no kids here. You meant what you said. This your comment now is an after thought.

Mickael2:



The level of sentiments here is just....alarming.

I for one would expect Icon4s of all people to know that in 1998 due to our bad performances the players took over, in fact we virtually didn't have a coach, the team picked itself and played the way they wanted. We won against Spain but we lost our last two matches 3-1 to Paraguay and 4-1 to Denmark. Considering the talent in that team we should have performed better if we had a coach.


Now this team hardly possess the talent. It's bemusing that they will say that the team showed it's character against Argentina and the same set of people will say that friendly games don't matter. Czech were roundly humiliated by Australia but for some reason we(some) want to believe that the coach is hiding his preferred tactics, that's the most nonsensical deduction any sane human being could ever make. so the coach is making us lose these matches so we would be considered the underdogs? So what were we before? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Back then the talk was that Mikel would make our team better but we have passed African opponents. We have gotten to a stage where all eleven players matter and the coach's ineptitude has been laid bare but some want to believe that he is losing just so that we will be considered underdogs? I don't know if I should call that sentiments or outright stupidity. I do support the SE though but at least everyone knows I have had my reservations towards Gernot Rohr and others are starting to see why(just like I had with Onazi)