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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by tobiasbeecher: 12:39pm On Jun 12, 2018
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YungMillionaire:
Let me start by saying apart from my tribe (Itshekiri) my two favorite tribes are Yorubas and Igbos. So, believe me when I say I have NOTHING against Igbos. But Ndigbo needs some serious soul searching.

My last visit to SA before my current assignment, I was shocked by an encounter. I was talking to some locals (who are fellow colleagues) in the heart of Johannesburg. And when my friend introduced me as his favorite Nigerian, one of them said "...I hope you are not Igbo...because all they do here is push drugs." Boy, that encounter shook me to my marrows. These guys are not your typical xenophobic SAns. These are liberal minded Nigeria loving SAners but even for them, the reputation of Igbos as drug dealers in SA is something they could not overlook.

I am not really interested in this Joe Igbokwe issue. My own concern is this: What is Ndigbo doing about this drug smuggling scourge? Other Africans (and some Asians) are now differentiating Igbos from other Nigerians because of this illicit act.

In addition to the above, I noticed that many of the Igbos pushing for Igbo presidency 2023 on NL are also the most anti-Yorubas. So I ask you a very simple question: how do you intend to get an Igbo president without the support of Yorubas? This is a serious question. Because even I look forward to an Igbo president. However, its seems impossible if you burn the SW cultural bridge. Even GEJ ONLY became president because Yorubas fought hard for him. So, what is really the rational of these anti-Yoruba fervor?
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Bloody hypocrite! Your igbophobic will kill you if you're not careful. You only see the crimes Igbos commit and I ask what about your people? Are they saints? Keeping on deceiving yourself and think when you and your fellow Co travellers show hatred and unbridled jealousy to the Igbos they will just fold their arms and watch you. Seriously, if not for the strong character the Igbos have, the kind of hatred and bitterness they face from people like you would have made them gone extinct. Jog along, you're worst than the Igbos in SA you're trying to denigrate.
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by tobiasbeecher: 12:42pm On Jun 12, 2018
Shakdut:
it will hard for my brothers from east to become president of Nigeria without support of people from West. igbokwe has spoken d truth bt it might be bitter, bt the truth is diplomacy is d only key for you to rule wherever place you found yourself.
but the problem I have is that most o
of our brothers that are complaining about igbokwe are also leaving in Lagos ooo, bt it's not proper to be eating someone foods and at d same time cursing the person.
God sees us ooo.
Where do you want them to live? Is lagos not part of Nigeria? Are they living in the houses free? Food? Are they feeding in your house? Do you feed them? Are Yorubas not in the SE? Abeg shut up
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by userplainly(m): 12:47pm On Jun 12, 2018
Favor99:

White folks.... see them at work. This is how they started putted animosity and hate between the different Nigerian/African ethnic groups. They started it and now our people ran with it and are now doing it

Whites and their divide and ruling undecided

They’ve been doing this for centuries, just as this white lady here just did. See them at work. Now they’ll step back and watch us tear each other apart. Naija wake up

Moorish
Khiaa
Userplainly
Musicwriter
Phut
GenBuhari

Come see a white lady divide and ruler at work




what these stupid Nigerian/ black humans don't understand is IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE PEOPLE! forget tribe n religion.... we are a nation that should be working together! do Yoruba's or Igbos think they are any different because of tribe? Igbo neighbor still kill or want to ruin the other Igbo man... even family members don't see eye to eye but the whiteman and our politicians won't let peace reign because if that should happen then everyone will be united to uproot them from power!....... ANY MAN THAT FEELS IF NIGERIA DIVIDE IT WILL BE BETTER IS A HUMONGOUS FOOL!.... we'll be scattered, in conflicts and leaderless... then we'll be easy pickings for the greedy WEST!..... PS: THE AVERAGE WHITEMAN DON'T LIKE TO SEE U AS EQUALS

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by Favor99(m): 12:47pm On Jun 12, 2018
revontuli:


You guys have been hating on each other here, it's not the white people who created your ethnic bigotries.
It's extremely low IQ conspiracy theory cop-out to slander me like that (I tell people not to make ethnic bigtry hate speech all the time) or blame the prejudices and hate on outsiders.

Are the IPOB separatists white? Is it white people not allowing the Igbos to get elected as president or depriving them of major infrastructure? Is it white people who unleash the Fulani herdsmen to kill Christian farmers?

You already have enough animosity and hate, muslim-christian hate included. You don't need anyone putting it there, you have to blame the tribalist bigots here who are screaming ethnic slurs all the time. They were always here.
Keep deceiving us, your not our friends. You guys are like wolf in sheeps clothing.

It’s known fact that you whites divide and rule and put tension between blacks all over the world. Just like your portraying Africa to the world as a dark jungle filled with backwards naked people. And most people around the world believe it. People are killing and attacking Africans as a result.

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by Follygunners: 12:51pm On Jun 12, 2018
olas24u:


You cannot stay in your place of origin because its a dry land and nothing is happening there.

Omo iya, God go bless you! These pple are savage animals. I can't deal with them at all. Ingrates at worst!

They're the most backward group in Nigeria and tend to blame everything on everyone else except themselves. I despise them all. They should all be deported from Yoruba lands to their forest/jungle.

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by tobiasbeecher: 12:56pm On Jun 12, 2018
olas24u:

online fraud requires intelligence and know how,it is not for stupid people.in an organized society they are meant to work in the military or intelligence sector or government jobs.
Now I know a nut is loose! You need help.
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by Favor99(m): 12:56pm On Jun 12, 2018
userplainly:


what these stupid Nigerian/ black humans don't understand is IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE PEOPLE! forget tribe n religion.... we are a nation that should be working together! do Yoruba's or Igbos think they are any different because of tribe? Igbo neighbor still kill or want to ruin the other Igbo man... even family members don't see eye to eye but the whiteman and our politicians won't let peace reign because if that should happen then everyone will be united to uproot them from power!....... ANY MAN THAT FEELS IF NIGERIA DIVIDE IT WILL BE BETTER IS A HUMONGOUS FOOL!.... we'll be scattered, in conflicts and leaderless... then we'll be easy pickings for the greedy WEST!..... PS: THE AVERAGE WHITEMAN DON'T LIKE TO SEE U AS EQUALS
Yea our people are foolishly being very tribalistic and hateful to one another. We need to wake up. This white person just showed her as.s here on NL. But our people won’t know that this wasn’t an innocent observation on her part.

She had dark intentions

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by Follygunners: 12:57pm On Jun 12, 2018
Stevenson1:
So in all I understand here, it should be if any Igbo person is killed that we should not talk and if we feel cheated in the Country also that we should not talk rather we should be civilized. OK... Joe, you see your life. Igbos after the war has been looking for peace and equal rights in Nigeria or break up. An average Igbo man is not intimidated by anything, I mean literally by anything. Someone said that the Yorubas have the Jagaban, the Hausas have Buhari but Igbos have no one. well, I reply them that no man born on earth can rule the entire igbo land without being questioned. That's democracy!!! you talk about Obasanjo like he's a saint to the Igbos. Obasanjo dealt with the Igbos more than his people though. what do you people want from Igbos sef. Do you know how many Igbo business men that has been killed in the North. have we gone to war?? Anyone will just wake up, insults the Igbos, threaten them with killings, Call them many names, fight them in all angles of Nigeria and you expect them to cool and relax??

Ogbeni, get lost, abeg. Just listen to ur own epistle. No wonder you're soo behind. Savage animals... go back to ur jungle / forest!
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by diadem10: 12:58pm On Jun 12, 2018
revontuli:
Yorubas have some highly educated and successful people, nothing against Yorubas in general but they really need to fix that skull mining problem before comparing themselves with Igbos.

Igbos don't do skull mining and human sacrifice for money rituals, that is a huge plus on their side.

Okija shrine, Clifford Orji, Reverend King all say otherwise. These people were the pioneers of ritual in Nigeria.

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by olas24u(f): 1:05pm On Jun 12, 2018
tobiasbeecher:

Now I know a nut is loose! You need help.
you can imagine deploying does skills into other areas in the military or airforce.in china does yahoo boys will be retrained and work for the government to become useful and contribute to society and paid decent salaries.
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by diadem10: 1:06pm On Jun 12, 2018
kingzizzy:


That is why Igbos and Yorubas are not the same people. Yorubas are looking at it that Ojukwu attemped and failed. Igbos look at the attempt more than they look at the failure. For the Igbos, it is far better to attempt and fail than to be a coward and not have the spine to attempt at all.
You mean running away while 2mil Ibos bear the brunt of his stupidity? Nope. A Yoruba man will rather die that run away e.g Abiola, Fela etc

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by diadem10: 1:09pm On Jun 12, 2018
This revontuli abi wetin she dey call herself is even a white beech. Gtfoh.

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by userplainly(m): 1:21pm On Jun 12, 2018
Favor99:

Yea our people are foolishly being very tribalistic and hateful to one another. We need to wake up. This white person just showed her as.s here on NL. But our people won’t know that this wasn’t an innocent observation on her part.

She had dark intentions

I'm about starting a movement for ALL NIGERIAN YOUTHS.. regardless of your tribe or religion!... we are the FUTURE .. no matter wat the APC or PDP do, they are still clueless!...... I was talking with a pastor and I told him " if you join cult and you can't make an impact in the society then wats the point?"... some people will claim Aye or Eyen or even Barg, funny thing is they can make a call n mobilize more than a thousand boys in less than 2 hours.. yet we complain that we can't make a protest!..... if the so-called "cultist" gather together, paint streets ( peoples house that need good cleaning) patch bad roads or dig gutters then everybody would want to join but No! they can gather to oppress one guy cus of his girl or the guy is dating their girl...........

we need change from all level!.... what is community youths? bunch of dirty poor boys that refuses to work or go to sch but always comes to ur building site to collect deve... some will charge ur Tipa for every sand they bring... I ask one n he said " deh dey spoil awa rd"... oya d money him n his frnds pocket am......



should I even mention religion?..... …

if we decide to fight for this country many of us will die but we'll fighting for our next generation cos the same people that met the colonial masters are still ruling till date.. they just rotate power amongst themselves!.......


indirectly the Apartheid that happened in south africa is same thing happening here.... we fail to see it because its Black on Black....



Brother should I talk about our military? if a country attacks us I swear we'll lose!.. our armoury is a joke!... how many fighter jets do we have? we can't make our war tanks n I don't mean that stupid bullion van police parade......

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by olas24u(f): 1:24pm On Jun 12, 2018
kaycito:


Lol VAT that's contributed by who? if they don't want to be cheated let them ask for restructuring.
to restructure nigeria we need to be on the same page ,your leaders want different things and not what we want.if we agree on the same things the northerners cannot carry on for long.but their will always be a judas from your side .e.g kalu,nzeribe etc

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by revontuli(f): 1:25pm On Jun 12, 2018
Favor99:

Keep deceiving us, your not our friends. You guys are like wolf in sheeps clothing.

It’s known fact that you whites divide and rule and put tension between blacks all over the world. Just like your portraying Africa to the world as a dark jungle filled with backwards naked people. And most people around the world believe it. People are killing and attacking Africans as a result.


It's stupid and makes no sense to create wars and division in Africa from a business perspective. Developed and prosperous Africa means new markets and hundreds of millions of customers to sell products.

War-torn, backward, undeveloped countries benefit no one.

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by olas24u(f): 1:27pm On Jun 12, 2018
DrGoodman:


You cannot afford it, and you're afraid of "abandoned property" saga later when Nnamdi Kanu has succeeded.

Do you know why dont people live in high brow areas?its because you have people of like minds .but in a situation were you sleep with your two eyes closed amongst tribalist,will be a distaster.
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by kaycito: 1:36pm On Jun 12, 2018
olas24u:

to restructure nigeria we need to be on the same page ,your leaders want different things and not what we want.if we agree on the same things the northerners cannot carry on for long.but their will always be a judas from your side .e.g kalu,nzeribe etc

As at today only northerners are against restructuring, why do you blame igbos for everything? why are you afraid of calling out the northerners, we know who is against restructuring in this country and its not igbos

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by Favor99(m): 1:38pm On Jun 12, 2018
revontuli:


It's stupid and makes no sense to create wars and division in Africa from a business perspective. Developed and prosperous Africa means new markets and hundreds of millions of customers to sell products.

War-torn, backward, undeveloped countries benefit no one.
It benefits you guys. You come to Africa pretending to like us and our culture, but then you turn around and start degrading our people to the world.

And yes your leaders do all those crazy things you just mentioned, like creating wars creating aids/Ebola etc

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by olas24u(f): 1:46pm On Jun 12, 2018
kaycito:


As at today only northerners are against restructuring, why do you blame igbos for everything? why are you afraid of calling out the northerners, we know who is against restructuring in this country and its not igbos

The igbos want more states and not regions,the northerners are an advantage so the will hold on to it until we agree on the same things.they are more in the house ,so no debate will pass in that house.
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by olas24u(f): 1:48pm On Jun 12, 2018
kaycito:


As at today only northerners are against restructuring, why do you blame igbos for everything? why are you afraid of calling out the northerners, we know who is against restructuring in this country and its not igbos
even the next election if we team up with sw plus se plus middle belt plus southsouth we can finish them.but you people will betray

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by kaycito: 2:01pm On Jun 12, 2018
olas24u:

even the next election if we team up with sw plus se plus middle belt plus southsouth we can finish them.but you people will betray

You really talk alot of nonsense, probably you deep seated bias against igbos will not let you see any good in them, we know who the betrayers are, in 2015 when SS and SE were supporting a fellow southerner what did SW do?
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by willibounce1(m): 2:02pm On Jun 12, 2018
excel101:
For your information I'm not an IPOB, and funny enough you keep using abusive and insultive words like dirty pigs, dafts, moronic brave etc. Its understandable that it takes a pained man to say all these. But it doesn't change the fact that, your people cowardly went to sleep when your leaders are being daily slaughtered, jailed and dehumanized.

1. Inspite of Tinubu being the No 1 party leader of APC he has no voice

2. After MKO's mandate was denied him, he was jailed and killed, without any finger lifted. Just because he was given a national award 20yrs after, you all went on wild celebration. NB. They gave same to his then running mate that's still alive.

3. MKO's wife Kudirat, was killed, nothing happened.

4. If not for the death of Gen. Abacha, OBJ & Gen. Rt. Diya would have been killed. The same cowards like you and your brothers would still be quiet. Lazy people.

5. Fela & Idiagbon were also killed by same Abacha's Govt. Like the proverbial goat "when being pushed to the wall it fights back", but in your case you break the wall without lifting a finger.

lol..you can claim not to be an ipod miscreant all you want. ohh! the insult is paining you...that's the problem with you chest beating ipod goats. When you look for trouble and you get served, you start crying. I have told you afonjas are cowards like you ipod pigs always shout. what else do you want? or you want to drag the cowardice with us again. You won't just let your daft hatred for afonjas give you peace of mind. Ipods are the richest in nigeria, they own all the properties in afonja land. without ipods, afonjas cannot survive as ya'all claim. Afonjas have accepted all of that, but you still want to drag cowardice with us again. You just want to measure up at all cost. what you accuse the afonjas of having, you always want to have too...lol..

All of the people you mentioned above were killed, YES, we coward afonjas did nothing because we dont have balls.

PLEASE WHAT DID YOU MORONIC, CURSED IPODS DO TO FREE KANU FROM PRISON? WHAT ARE YOU CURRENTLY DOING TO FREE HIS OTHER DISCIPLES KANU ABANDONED AT KUJE?

WHAT DID YOU TO THE THOUSANDS OF MORONIC IPODS THAT KANU LED TO EARLY GRAVE?

YOU BRAVE IPOD MISCREANTS ARE NOT EVEN SURE IF KANU IS DEAD OR ALIVE, YOU CLAIMED THE NA RAIDED AND KILLED OR KIDNAPPED KANU, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT?

WHAT DID YOU IPOD ANIMALS DO WHEN THE PYTHON CAME TO THE SAD BEAST TO DANCE?

WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN THE NA MADE YOU PIGS SWIM IN THE MUDDY WATERS LIKE THE PIGS THAT YOU ARE?

PLEASE TELL YOUR FELLOW IPODS THE MEANING OF THE WORD 'COWARD' GIVE THEM EXAMPLES USING DILECTOR KANU AND EZE GBURUGBURU OJU IKU. UNDERSTAND THAT WORD 'COWARD' BEFORE YOU CHOOSE TO USE IT NEXT TIME.

BYE

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by kaycito: 2:02pm On Jun 12, 2018
olas24u:


The igbos want more states and not regions,the northerners are an advantage so the will hold on to it until we agree on the same things.they are more in the house ,so no debate will pass in that house.

You don't know what igbos want just keep quiet.
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by olas24u(f): 2:05pm On Jun 12, 2018
kaycito:


You don't know what igbos want just keep quiet.
You need to keep shut,your leaders proposed 5 vice president,more states,so shut up
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by olas24u(f): 2:08pm On Jun 12, 2018
kaycito:


You really talk alot of nonsense, probably you deep seated bias against igbos will not let you see any good in them, we know who the betrayers are, in 2015 when SS and SE were supporting a fellow southerner what did SW do?

Who were the people that made up the caninets of gej.it was an igbo government and yorubas were excluded.

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by kaycito: 2:09pm On Jun 12, 2018
olas24u:

You need to keep shut,your leaders proposed 5 vice president,more states,so shut up

Show me a link or article where Igbo leaders proposed all you said, sophisticated slowpoke, always trying to bend the truth.
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by olas24u(f): 2:10pm On Jun 12, 2018
kaycito:


You really talk alot of nonsense, probably you deep seated bias against igbos will not let you see any good in them, we know who the betrayers are, in 2015 when SS and SE were supporting a fellow southerner what did SW do?

yorubas helped gej to come to power when they refused to hand over to him.so why did he create and igbo government and refuse to restructure when he had to chance

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by olas24u(f): 2:11pm On Jun 12, 2018
kaycito:


Show me a link or article where Igbo leaders proposed all you said, sophisticated slowpoke, always trying to bend the truth.

ohananze conference its on youtube.the want different things

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by willibounce1(m): 2:13pm On Jun 12, 2018
kingzizzy:


No doubt Fela is respected man. Do Igbos respect Fela more than they respect Ojukwu? Not a chance. Fela fought human rights abuse, Ojukwu fought for something far more important, the liberation of his people.

Fela fought with his music and mouth, Ojukwu fought with live bullets.

Naturally, the Yoruba narrative is that Ojukwu started a war but it was you Nigerians that came to the East were Ojukwu and his people were enjoying their new country to come and fight them.

Ojukwu led millions of his people to their deaths, it is not painting Ojukwus people. It is you Yorubas it is paining. Crying more than the bereaved.

Ojukwu fought the might of the Nigerian Army for 3 years. No Yoruba man will ever have the backbone or guts to fight for the liberation of the Yoruba people in my life time, let alone get to the stage of running away. Yorubas are not made of that sort of stuff in this 21st century.

As I said before, Yorubas and Igbos dont have anything in common. All we have is that Lugard forced all of us together in 1914.

But if someone like Nnamdi Kanu comes out and says he wants his people to go their way, Yoruba unity beggars will start foaming at the mouth.




If you idioti.c ipods know that OJUIKU the cursed, greedy coward led 3 million moronic ipods to death, why then do you always blame Awolowo for the deaths of 3million moronic ipods who could not use their brain? Why do you always shout afonja coward, saboteurs, betrayals and all sort of nonsense when many of you are not even intelligent enough to understand the meaning of the words you use. your evil forefathers tell you all sorts of useless lies just to cover up for their cowardice and like the morons you ipods are, you swallowed everything and continue to pass it on to many of your moronic ipod generations. You have taught your children to always blame afonja for whatever problems they face in life. if they travel to india or malaysia to do drugs and they get killed, you must blame the afonjas for that.

how does foaming in the mouth stop a brave man from getting biafrau.d. Or dilector doesn't know how to get guns to start a war? Oh! you forgot dilector got some funds from his daft followers to buy weapons only for him to flee to ghana to use the money to eat pizza and phuck ashaw.o? ya'll ipods better start learning how to use your brain to think and not stupid hateful emotions. the only place that will lead you to is early grave and as usual, you will blame afonjas.

My ipod blother! HAVE YOU BLAMED AN AFONJA TODAY?

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by kaycito: 2:14pm On Jun 12, 2018
Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by kingzizzy: 2:14pm On Jun 12, 2018
diadem10:

You mean running away while 2mil Ibos bear the brunt of his stupidity? Nope. A Yoruba man will rather die that run away e.g Abiola, Fela etc

What you call stupidity is for Igbos an attempt at freedom.

A Yoruba man cannot fight a war of liberation like Ojukwu did, to even talk about getting to stage of running away.

Fela And Abiola never fought any war, they only agitated. It is Ojukwu who has fought a war.

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Re: What The Igbos Can Learn From The Yorubas - By Joe Igbokwe by kaycito: 2:16pm On Jun 12, 2018
olas24u:


yorubas helped gej to come to power when they refused to hand over to him.so why did he create and igbo government and refuse to restructure when he had to chance

Fact is SW betrayed southern Nigeria and voted a northerner, never call igbos betrayers when you guy are the known betrayers

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