sonmvayina:
Whatever happens, whether good or evil, it is God who is responsible... There is only one God... Not 2, there is no separate God for good, and evil...

It is just the duality of life.. Two different sides of the same thing...

God is never responsible for anything evil.
Remember John 10:10, 'The thief cometh not, but for to steal, kill, and to destroy.' and 1 John 3:8b, 'for this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.'
Satan is responsible for every evil.

Because they haven't had an encounter

Dan1cole:

Well, he died refusing to believe. That's his problem.
Pls understand my statement before rushing to comment.
Even an atheist (desiring to live) would ask to be prayed for when he's at the point of death-hoping for a miracle. Believe me, I've seen/heard things.

And I'm telling you its nonsense you're talking, you're projecting how you would think as an atheist to other atheist when you've never been an atheist before. its like the popular saying "giving up smoking is easy. look at me, I've never smoked in my life"

I'm an atheist, I've been in life threatening situations with desire to live but never prayed to anyone. I've faced sicknesses that looked like its the end of me but never prayed or encouraged others to pray for me.

Maybe you should check out a thread I made on this topic here https://www.nairaland.com/3363695/there-no-atheists-foxholes-how

Omooba77:
I still wonder why a lot of people deny power of God and all the evidencial miracles!

name the miracles in nigeria

Dan1cole:

God is never responsible for anything evil.
Remember John 10:10, 'The thief cometh not, but for to steal, kill, and to destroy.' and 1 John 3:8b, 'for this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.'
Satan is responsible for every evil.

[b]"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." [b]

czarina:
Wondering too. Even with so many miracles and signs of His presence daily. There will always be Thomases though

where does God live?

realmindz:


So it takes evil or unfortunate events to know god.

It's a psychological thing for the human mind to seek refuge in times of helplessness. Present people a mere stone as salvation and it will do the trick.
People always desire a thing to believe in, something to give them hope

I never implied that it takes unfortunate events to know God.
I only meant that there are certain persons that will never believe until they're caught up in one critical circumstance or the other.

Viking007:
Well, I used to deny the power of God not until when I witnessed real evil with my own eyes.

u witnessed a film trick. Trust me

hopefulLandlord:


One single question, what "miracle" can ONLY happen to a Christian that can't possibly happen to other religious people or even atheists

make your answers based on something testable and verifiable like "Only a Christian suffering from cancer can be cured" "only a Christian can be a multimillionaire" "only a Christian can survive a nuclear bomb blast" "Only Christian players can win the world cup"

that’s when they will tell you God does for everybody including unbelievers! I wonder why you need to pray for Gods blessings when he gives it to unbelievers who don’t pray for it nor worship him and to add salt to injury - insult Him for good measure!

There's no evidence of any power, all na scam

Viking007 post=p68560972:
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I thought Yahweh was everywhere, then why should there be an absence of Yahweh.

Meaning he is not everywhere

Dan1cole:

Well, he died refusing to believe. That's his problem.
Pls understand my statement before rushing to comment.
Even an atheist (desiring to live) would ask to be prayed for when he's at the point of death-hoping for a miracle. Believe me, I've seen/heard things.

lol ! A lot of believers say things like this - have you been at the death bed of an atheist ? You probably don’t even know any atheist!

Dan1cole:

I never implied that it takes unfortunate events to know God.
I only meant that there are certain persons that will never believe until they're caught up in one critical circumstance or the other.

And I give it to you that people can believe in anything in times of helplessness...The mind is weak and needs a shoulder just to cry on.. Then take them to church and play emotional songs for them, give them hope that they have an imaginary friend who cares and loves them dearly

hopefulLandlord:


And I'm telling you its nonsense you're talking, you're projecting how you would think as an atheist to other atheist when you've never been an atheist before. its like the popular saying "giving up smoking is easy. look at me, I've never smoked in my life"

I'm an atheist, I've been in life threatening situations with desire to live but never prayed to anyone. I've faced sicknesses that looked like its the end of me but never prayed or encouraged others to pray for me.

Maybe you should check out a thread I made on this topic here https://www.nairaland.com/3363695/there-no-atheists-foxholes-how

And how do you know I wasn't an atheist? I didn't tell you that now did I?
Look, I wasn't drawn to the Christian faith because I was helpless, weak or anything of that sort. I was drawn to it when I saw that it offered the best of everything man needed. And I mean everything.
The fact that you faced sickness and yet didn't seek God is ur problem. Me, after I became born again have never even tasted the slightest of sickness, and can boldly tell you that it's impossible for me to be sick, even if the devil himself came to me and tried to make me sick.
So, it's ur choice bro...

realmindz:


And I give it to you that people can believe in anything in times of helplessness...The mind is weak and needs a shoulder just to cry on.. Then take them to church and play emotional songs for them, give them hope that they have an imaginary friend who cares and loves them dearly

Trust me, I don't have a weak mind. And am not a dummy/brainwashed follower as well.

hopefulLandlord:


And I'm telling you its nonsense you're talking, you're projecting how you would think as an atheist to other atheist when you've never been an atheist before. its like the popular saying "giving up smoking is easy. look at me, I've never smoked in my life"

I'm an atheist, I've been in life threatening situations with desire to live but never prayed to anyone. I've faced sicknesses that looked like its the end of me but never prayed or encouraged others to pray for me.

Maybe you should check out a thread I made on this topic here https://www.nairaland.com/3363695/there-no-atheists-foxholes-how

exactly!

Nairaland is full of athiest. .. Satan's workings with fake pastors is making an inpact..

[quote author=Viking007 post=68560972][/quote]

God seems to be absent a lot these days though

Dan1cole:

And how do you know I wasn't an atheist? I didn't tell you that now did I?
Look, I wasn't drawn to the Christian faith because I was helpless, weak or anything of that sort. I was drawn to it when I saw that it offered the best of everything man needed. And I mean everything.
The fact that you faced sickness and yet didn't seek God is ur problem. Me, after I became born again have never even tasted the slightest of sickness, and can boldly tell you that it's impossible for me to be sick, even if the devil himself came to me and tried to make me sick.
So, it's ur choice bro...

This one is your own cup of coffee bro, stop projecting your insecurities on atheists by telling them what they'll think in certain situations

Pataricatering:
lol ! A lot of believers say things like this - have you been at the death bed of an atheist ? You probably don’t even know any atheist!

Trust me, I do know and have met atheists.

Power is like light. You cannot deny it. It's not that people are denying the power of God. The power as touted by religion is not just there because the god of all the religions are fictions, they are word - created gods!

Check out Nature, can you deny thunder, rainfall, sunshine? No. Those are the things that bear testimony to the power of God not the gods who lives in books.

Omooba77:
I still wonder why a lot of people deny power of God and all the evidencial miracles!

Tell God to fix Nigeria, that is the only evidencial miracle I require now.....

Dan1cole:

Well, he died refusing to believe. That's his problem.
Pls understand my statement before rushing to comment.
Even an atheist (desiring to live) would ask to be prayed for when he's at the point of death-hoping for a miracle. Believe me, I've seen/heard things.

the journey to atheism is usually a lengthy , critical process that usually takes years ! Atheists usually go back and forth , research , ask questions , doubt themselves, doubt their religions , eveakuate and re-evaluate information till they finally arrive at unbelief ! By the time you reach unbelief u are usually very sure religion is nonsense and God is a cock and bull story ! Now , you get the unbelievers still saying things like thank God etc - all part of a learned vocabulary which some people mistake as a residual belief in God !

Dan1cole:

Trust me, I do know and have met atheists.

have you met one on his death - bed ?

Pataricatering:
the journey to atheism is usually a lengthy , critical process that usually takes years ! Atheists usually go back and forth , research , ask questions , doubt themselves, doubt their religions , eveakuate and re-evaluate information till they finally arrive at unbelief ! By the time you reach unbelief u are usually very sure religion is nonsense and God is a cock and bull story ! Now , you get the unbelievers still saying things like thank God etc - all part of a learned vocabulary which some people mistake as a residual belief in God !

People that pray and say they received what they prayed about, is simply luck been on their side.

Prayer is what people give, when they have nothing to offer.......

Despite all the prayer houses in Nigeria, nothing is working, people are simply walking....

Pure atheists countries are more prosperous than a religious country...... Explain.....

Dan1cole:

And how do you know I wasn't an atheist? I didn't tell you that now did I?
Look, I wasn't drawn to the Christian faith because I was helpless, weak or anything of that sort. I was drawn to it when I saw that it offered the best of everything man needed. And I mean everything.
The fact that you faced sickness and yet didn't seek God is ur problem. Me, after I became born again have never even tasted the slightest of sickness, and can boldly tell you that it's impossible for me to be sick, even if the devil himself came to me and tried to make me sick.
So, it's ur choice bro...

were you ever an atheist or not ? Don’t confuse the discussion ! If you were - state it clearly !

Pataricatering:
have you met one on his death - bed ?

Have you meet a religious person on his/her death bed praying and been prayed for...... But the person still dies..... Explain....

Lexusgs430:


People that pray and say they received what they prayed about, is simply luck been on their side.

Prayer is what people give, when they have nothing to offer.......

Despite all the prayer houses in Nigeria, nothing is working, people are simply walking....

Pure atheists countries are more prosperous than a religious county...... Explain.....

religion and poverty are brother and sister ! Anywhere you see religion poverty is following closely behind ! The statistics don’t lie yet the religious retards in naija think God blesses people with riches - when it’s the exact opposite !

Pataricatering:
religion and poverty are brother and sister ! Anywhere you see religion poverty is following closely behind ! The statistics don’t lie yet the religious retards in naija think God blesses people with riches - when it’s the exact opposite !

So why don't we ban religion (or near enough), since its the cause/curse of all our evils?

Lexusgs430:


Have you meet a religious person on his/her death bed praying and been prayed for...... But the person still dies..... Explain....

I never said I was at anybody’s death bed ? You said you have seen and heard things and stated that atheists pray to God or something left ke that in their death beds ! That’s why I asked you if you have been at any atheists death bed ? To have made that statement ! You obviously don’t want to answer the question - you swerved it twice ! Which tells me you most likely have not been at the death bed of any atheist yet you implied you had been and that they prayed to God !

Lexusgs430:


People that pray and say they received what they prayed about, is simply luck been on their side.

Prayer is what people give, when they have nothing to offer.......

Despite all the prayer houses in Nigeria, nothing is working, people are simply walking....

Pure atheists countries are more prosperous than a religious country...... Explain.....

prayers have been working wonderfully well for us so far which is why Nigerians keep praying for long life but has life expectancy of 54.5 (the 7th lowest in the world) while a prayerless Japan comprising of atheist majority has a life expectancy of 83.7 (highest in the world)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

This is also why Nigeria is filled with a population that all claim to be "God Fearing" but has the 14th highest crime rate in the world while an atheist Japan filled with "sinners" "Reprobate" "people who don't fear god" "heathens" "infidels" have the lowest crime rate in the world https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

sonmvayina:
Whatever happens, whether good or evil, it is God who is responsible... There is only one God... Not 2, there is no separate God for good, and evil...

It is just the duality of life.. Two different sides of the same thing...

I was trying hard to explain to one slowpoke that this present life can only exist at equilibrium and that's the duality. One thing with opposite side and equal force.