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Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by statusquoante: 8:22pm On Jun 27, 2018
Simbrixton:
God bless you may he never leave you
Amen!!!!!!!
And you too my brother.
We must NEVER give in to the jihadists.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Simbrixton(m): 8:33pm On Jun 27, 2018
In a country where after a clash between yoruba and fulanis buhari led a powerful fulani delegation to confront lam adeshina in 1993 abiola won an election but wasn't allowed to rule because hes yoruba and would become very powerful we live in a country where sharia law is strong in the north where ethnic killings are prevalent in the north where the North even with so many years of rule have nothing to show for it where northerners are encouraged to beg and in this same country people like blackaxe78 believes hes civilized and a decent human being hes ok with a situation where 200 people are murdered in vengeance for 300 cows and he believes discouraging killers from settling in the south West where poor yorubas would undoubtedly become the victims tomorrow i weep eledumare i really weep embolden our men
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by blackaxe78: 9:33pm On Jun 27, 2018
statusquoante:
That's why we have trains. They can even carry live cows... smiley
Why act like you dont know the railway system route and system of Nigeria?

A country that cant transport the most important commodity-Fuel by rail is what you suggesting to move cows by rail. Are you putting all factors in before concluding.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by blackaxe78: 9:33pm On Jun 27, 2018
Simbrixton:
In a country where after a clash between yoruba and fulanis buhari led a powerful fulani delegation to confront lam adeshina in 1993 abiola won an election but wasn't allowed to rule because hes yoruba and would become very powerful we live in a country where sharia law is strong in the north where ethnic killings are prevalent in the north where the North even with so many years of rule have nothing to show for it where northerners are encouraged to beg and in this same country people like blackaxe78 believes hes civilized and a decent human being hes ok with a situation where 200 people are murdered in vengeance for 300 cows and he believes discouraging killers from settling in the south West where poor yorubas would undoubtedly become the victims tomorrow i weep eledumare i really weep embolden our men
Going off point is your talent!
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by statusquoante: 10:50pm On Jun 27, 2018
blackaxe78:
Why act like you dont know the railway system route and system of Nigeria?

A country that cant transport the most important commodity-Fuel by rail is what you suggesting to move cows by rail. Are you putting all factors in before concluding.
If Buhari can't make trains work so that they can ship live cows from the north to the south, then he is a failure!
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by PointZerom: 1:14am On Jun 28, 2018
GavelSlam:
Afenifere should realise this is a situation which nobody would win.

To think we can wish away this situation is naive.

Whether Buhari is in power or not this problem would persist.

The longer it lingers the more lives would be lost.

Shut up.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by GavelSlam: 1:16am On Jun 28, 2018
PointZerom:
Shut up.
Why don't you make me?
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by PointZerom: 1:20am On Jun 28, 2018
GavelSlam:
Why don't you make me?
Stop supporting laziness. Let the herdsmen take care of their businesses like every other Nigerian.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by GavelSlam: 1:21am On Jun 28, 2018
PointZerom:
Stop supporting laziness. Let the herdsmen take care of their businesses like every other Nigerian.
You are calling people herding cattle lazy.

What do you know sef?

Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by PointZerom: 1:25am On Jun 28, 2018
GavelSlam:
You are calling people herding cattle lazy.
What do you know sef?
Oh sorry,
They're killers.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by poseidon12: 2:28am On Jun 28, 2018
GavelSlam:

Unlike you, I do not need any payment to do my civic or social duty.

Your civic duty of serving your Fulani masters?
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by poseidon12: 2:30am On Jun 28, 2018
nairavsdollars:
And what if FG go ahead with the ranches. What can Afenifere do?
The FG cannot get a land by force. The Governor of the State has to agree to provide them the land.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by poseidon12: 2:36am On Jun 28, 2018
Organism000:
This Buhari is so serious about getting free land in all States for his people.

This is a real operation take over.
Buhari wants to establish Fulani territory in all States in readiness for eventual attack and take over of Nigeria. No State in the Southeast or South-South should donate land for such project. Cattle rearing is private business.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by poseidon12: 2:38am On Jun 28, 2018
SarkinYarki:
Nobody is ceding an inch of their land to you blood thirsty comrades ...Kano state has offered them more than enough land to set up the biggest ranch in the world of they please why don't they want it .... We shall not accept any terrorist training camps on our land under the guise of ranching , Zango or colony ... you can take that back to your training camps in Sudan and tell them
Exactly.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by poseidon12: 2:55am On Jun 28, 2018
blackaxe78:
grin grin grin Sigh

On daily Basis? By flight?

Hear yourself, Ranch in the North and take to the South.

Lets imagine that is possible. Wont still they need a Ranch to put there flocks pending when they will be slaughtered.

People like Fulanis. You cant speak for everyone due to your own personal feelings.
It is not by force to locate cattle ranch in a State. Even the President of the Fulani, Buhari, said so. If we locate the ranches in your region and the North, we should have enough beef for the whole country.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by poseidon12: 3:14am On Jun 28, 2018
Ioannes:
We would like to hear from Igbo Moslems first. What's your take on that statement?
There are no Igbo Muslims, just business men that want to take advantage of the Muslim connection to 'blow'.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by whatofyou: 7:02am On Jun 28, 2018
blackaxe78:
What are you still pointing out man?


You still not making any sense! whats your way forward if you disagree about ranching. #Simple

Insult you can make, solutions you void of
You are the one who have refused to 'see' or 'collect' any sense, and I would have wished people ignored you to your folly. You are the classic example of what Nigerian politicians and leaders are: dumb.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Nobody: 7:34am On Jun 28, 2018
poseidon12:
There are no Igbo Muslims, just business men that want to take advantage of the Muslim connection to 'blow'.
Oh really?! #sniggers. Come lemme show you.

Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by Nobody: 8:45am On Jun 28, 2018
poseidon12:
Buhari wants to establish Fulani territory in all States in readiness for eventual attack and take over of Nigeria. No State in the Southeast or South-South should donate land for such project. Cattle rearing is private business.
The have already taken over.

The truth is that an average Southerner as opposed to the Northerner wants to travel abroad. The Southerners as sophisticated as they are, prefer to give birth in USA or Europe, so their kids can have dual citizenship, needless to mention that the kids will no longer love being Nigerian, so they will be stucked in two worlds, battling racism to fit into his new country and having no foot-hold on Nigeria, but guess what ? The average Northerner wants to establish a colony in the South because the North is facing desertification. SO they mass-produce children using the instrumentality of Islam to marry as many wives as impossible.

We are talking about a shoe shiner or security guard with 4 wives each, and all the kids from age one are on the road side begging for arms to survive. This is a population expansion strategy, and in the next 50 years, the entire South will be overrun by Northerners. Do not get me wrong, they are Nigerians and can live in any part of this country, but they do not allow any other tribe to live in their part of the country without constantly being reminded that the Southerners, especially the Christians are not their enemies. They kill Christians and Southerners as fast as killing a goat, and they value their cows more than Human lives. We are talking about humans who are naturally hateful here.

These Northerners are not trained, they are like bacteria and those little radio set they hold, is connected to the hive-mind, and the messages are being pulsated all the way from BBC Hausa radio, hosted in the UK and they are commanded on what to do as foot-soldiers and some day, they could be told to kill their bosses who are not muslims and all heavens will let loose.

The Fulani herdsmen receive their instructions to move in and slaughter via those radio and the Presidency knows what their plans are, but what baffles me is if Tinubu is actually stupid or just a coward. I am not even talking about Osinbanjo, that one has no single self-confidence. I know many short persons, and they are very proud people especially the educated one, but Osinbanjo stands out as a first degree coward unlike short people. I had expected him to be tough and ruthless as most short educated people are, but I am disappointed that he can not face Buhari and question why he should exterminate IPOB but does nothing to Fulani herdsmen.

Let me rephrase:

Why would Osinbanjo, not ask Buhari why he had to kill and jail IPOB who are not violent but do nothing about herdsmen but still demand that South gives them colonies.

Do you now see, why it shall not be well with Osinbanjo ? Buhari would not have won that election without the votes of Christians who really banked on a Pastor to even the odds.

I am not a Christian, and Islam to me is a parasite on consciousness, none of these religions matter to me. But when I have a chance to defend people, I must defend the defenseless.

For those of you reading my post from Jos or any part of the country terrorized by militia men who clearly have moral support of the Fulani powered FG, do not wait for any God to save you. There is no God out there that is interested in you, but they are interested in your blood. Let me rephrase that; The Gods of the Bible and Koran and blood tasty Gods. Abraham sacrificed to this same God, and first born sons were sacrificed to this same God. The Israelites and Palestines died in wars commissioned by this same blood tasty God, so you all can not rely on that God to save you, because that God is blood tasty.

Stop worshiping blood tasty Gods, they will not and do not save people. They actually like blood being poured so they can consume it etherically.

I repeat, there is no God to save you. Fight with your life to save yours.
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by marvinsync(m): 4:46pm On Jun 28, 2018
blackaxe78:
Where did you get the information in bold from?


The government supports agriculture and have designated lands for that which is leased cheaply to farmers. If the government can do that, I believe it should apply to herdsmen also. Are you aware Ogun state has a massive pig farm where pig farmers buy into as lease?


The first thing is that, people have chosen to wail about conflicts without finding resolutions. We keep talking about killing and blaming the idea of the government about ranching, bt wont proffer better solutions.

"Our land Mentality" and ethno-religious differences has blindfolded us from the glaring solution to this conflicts. Lets see where it ends up outside my suggestion.

Designate an area for ranching which they can buy into and ban open grazing. #Simple
government making land cheaper for agriculture is not the same as government given away land (not making it cheaper for them to buy) to non-indigenes

and secondly don't belittle our "land mentality" cause land is all people have think about it ? where does everything come from isn't it from the earth ? food , shelter , clothing, resources land is the basis of everything ,it's been the reason for wars since civilization was formed so yes people want to protect their land
and again I'm not saying that Fulani can't grade in foreign land I'm saying they have to buy land like every other business and even if the government wants to make things easier it's not by given land away and I need u to remember the government doesn't want to give this land to herdsmen they want to give it to FULANI herdsmen that is their plan is to help only Fulani as u can see from them intending to put emirs incharge of the land ,cause as few as they are the Fulani s are no the only herdsmen some Igbo people have started the trade what happens to them Huh?
and may I remind u that they are gonna give one plot of land we are talking about kilometres of land all over the country that's bs
if they wanna help the herdsmen so bad give them land in their own states and make transportation easier to bring it here isn't that they they are building the Lagos to kano railway line
Re: We Won’t Tolerate Cattle Ranches In Southwest, Says Afenifere by marvinsync(m): 4:54pm On Jun 28, 2018
blackaxe78:
Let me agree with you to an extent that the owners are wealthy and should fund there businesses. But you noting that cattles cant b reared everywhere. The fact that I have money wont allow me to go set-up a ranch in Lekki Phase 1. It still boils down that each state government bust set aside a Ranching area which herdsmen can buy into. The grazing bill can be adjusted if sincerely deliberated on without enthno tribal differences.

If their are more cattle's than humans in New Zealand and more goats than Humans in Australia, I see no reason why cattle ranching should be a problem to a Nigeria.
first of all why would u build a ranch in lekki phase one? that place is a residential are for the upper class so ur point doesn't make sense
and there are land that are so cheap in Nigeria located every where
and if u don't have the cash then simply join the que of Nigerians with ideas and no capital no need to kill people and give the whole country a headache

and like u said maybe something could be reached but with the reputation the Fulani have right now no one wants to even be around them
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