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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:14am On Jun 29, 2018
wayodude:


The two biggest issues with local coaches including the ex players like Oliseh and Siasia are;
1. Extremely questionable player selections. Remember Oliseh's selections vs Tanzania and Swaziland with Paul Onobi etc and the Enyeama/Musa captainship scandal? Remember Siasia's selections vs Egypt? Seth Sincere, Ambrose et al? With Local coaches this is guaranteed to return.
2. In game management. If you think Rohr is not good at reading games, please go back and watch Oliseh and Siasia performances again.

Sure I am happy for them (local coaches) to be involved but NEVER as the main man for the foreseeable future.

I understand what Olishe was trying to do at the time. He basically wanted to copy the Keshi template of building a team of foreign based messed with local talents. This template won Nigeria the Afcon and qualified Nigeria for the world cup without loosing a game.

As a matter of fact, I recall the much maligned Onobi was hailed for his performances in the few games he played. He was rated man of the match in the home leg vs Tanzania.

After Tuesday’s 2-0 World Cup qualifying victory for Nigeria against Swaziland, Paul Onobi has become a bit of a household name.
His impressive performance in defensive midfield for the Super Eagles brought lots of accolades from fans who hailed his virtuoso showing in warding off the visitors’ attackers.
A man who has been raring for an opportunity to show his talent on the big stage, Onobi did not disappoint coach Sunday Oliseh who told him to ‘enjoy’ himself in a game that saw Chelsea’s John Obi Mikel among some other big name players dropped to the bench.
Onobi, 22, scored six goals from defensive midfield for Sunshine Stars in the recently ended NPFL season and he knew it was an opportunity not to be missed.
“It was a moment I’ve been waiting for, for a long time. Every player on the streets wants to play for the Super Eagles because that’s the highest level of football,” Onobi told Goal.
“I was invited by chance because this is the season God wants the world to hear about me but this is not my best season.
“When I was called up to the camp, I said this is my opportunity, let me take it.
“The coach told me, ‘boy just go in there and enjoy yourself’. Likewise [Obafemi] Martins, he’s been very encouraging to me.
“When I got the chance, I just enjoyed myself because I love football,” he said.
Onobi and substitute Ezekiel Bassey’s performances have brought increased clamour for Oliseh to give greater opportunities to players playing in the domestic league because of their raw talent and hunger for glory.

I know the local coaches have their limitations, that is why I suggested they employed expatriates in specific areas where we lack indigenous capacity. I know we don't have world class, Nigerian high performance trainers, video analysts and sports data/statisticians who are good with crunching and interpreting numbers.
If we can get a set-up like this, it could work like magic.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:21am On Jun 29, 2018
ChrisKels:


Could u plz tweet this to the NFF?
I don't think that is necessary any more. I heard Pinick on TvC news saying Gernot Rohr will stay for the remainder of his 2yr contract and they will be looking at injecting new players to the team specifically mentioning Akpom, Ibe, Onyekuru, Lokosa, Nwakalis, Usman Mohammed, Awoniyi and a couple of other names I can't recall.
I wish Gernot Rohr stayed more in Nigeria though.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:33am On Jun 29, 2018
forgiveness:


Na only Real Madrid bi big club? Of course, they are baba.

Simon is likely going to Liverpool, Ajayi is wanted by Sporting Lisbon, Ebuehi is going to Benfica, Kayode is already with Shakhtar Donetsk, Agu and Awaziem are likely going back to Porto, Onyekuru is wanted by Besiktas-jk (though he doesn't want), Umar Sadiq back to Roma, and if we add Ahmed Musa and Kelechi move to Galatasaray and Porto, we do have hot prospect.

I have not mentioned Victor Moses and Alex Iwobi in Chelsea and Arsenal. I have not mentioned Nigerian FB in hot demand or likely going to break into top clubs next season. I mean the likes of Kehinde, Ademola, Nmecha and Okafor.

Bros, open eyes, we get prospect.

I don't know about Moses Simon's Liverpool move but it seems to have gone cold. Let's not count our chickens yet. Ajayi muted move to Sporting Lisbon may not be the best either because Sporting are a mess currently. Their players are tearing out their contracts, their Manger left and the new appointed manager left after just 9 days. The place is one giant mess currently.
Anyway be that as it may, my point remains we don't really have hot prospects who clubs are going crazy to sign. Non of our players are on the cusp of being world class, not even Ndidi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OgbaOghene(m): 9:44am On Jun 29, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:03am On Jun 29, 2018
AVERAGE: How Nigerian Players Rated At Russia 2018 World Cup

June 29, 2018 8:12 am

The Super Eagles have been knocked out of the 2018 FIFA World Cup after the first round of matches were concluded. KAYODE OGUNDARE assesses the team in three World Cup games and rates who was hot, who was not and the in-betweens….

Francis Uzoho (Deportivo La Coruña, Spain)

3 Games; 360 minutes

The talk before the FIFA World Cup centred around Uzoho’s lack of international experience. He had just half a dozen senior caps when the competition kicked off but despite conceding four goals in three World Cup games, Uzoho’s stocks have gone a notch higher following a respectable showing in all the matches. He’s no Vincent Enyeama yet but pundits believe that, with his imposing physical size, he can become one of Nigeria’s best goalkeepers yet. Luckily, at just 19 years, he has time on his side. (6)

Brian Idowu (Amkar Perm, Russia)

3 Games; 226 minutes; 1YC

Another late entrant into the team who joined after the team had secured the World Cup ticket, Idowu played as a left full-back in the first game against Croatia but was deployed as a wing-back in the last two games when the formation changed to a 3-5-2. Idowu was just marginally better than Elderson Echiejile whose place he took but offered little going forward as a wingback. His performance was stilted and slowed down Nigeria’s attacking fervour from the left side. Copped one yellow card, against Iceland, before he was substituted. (5)

Wilfred Ndidi (Leicester City, England)

3 Games; 360 minutes

A major doubt for the competition after coping an injury for Premier League club Leicester City last April, Ndidi played every single minute of his first World Cup. He shook off a general team lethargic performance in the first game to post impressive showings in the last two games. He was at home in a three-man midfield with captain Obi Mikel and Oghenekaro Etebo and had enough time and heart to venture forward to release couple of palm-stinging shots against the Icelandic and Argentina goalkeepers. Was adjudged to have had more tackles (15) and interceptions (12) than any other player at the end of the group stages of the World Cup. (7)

William Troost-Ekong (Bursaspor, Turkey)

3 Games; 360 minutes; 1YC

One half of Nigeria’s famed Oyinbo Wall, Troost-Ekong drew a lot of flaks after the opening group game loss to Croatia when he wrestled Mario Mandzukic to the ground for a penalty which led to the second goal. He dusted himself up in the next two games but his self-confidence as well as confidence was shaken. He was caught napping a few times and his decision-making was also suspect. Nevertheless, he played with all his heart. (6)

Leon Balogun (Mainz, Germany)

3 Games; 360 minutes; 1YC

Balogun is the other half of Nigeria’s Oyinbo Wall and he truly proved to be a leader at the heart of the defence. The new Brighton of England signing showed his new employers a glimpse of what to expect from him with an assured performance in all three games. In the game against Argentina, Balogun sacrificed himself by lunging at a goal-bound Angel Di Maria which fetched him a yellow card but he stepped up to win a penalty off Javier Mascherano for Nigeria’s only goal of the game. (7)

Ahmed Musa (Leicester City, England)

3 Games; 208 minutes; 2Goals

Easily Nigeria’s player of the tournament, Musa started the competition on the bench but after coming on for Alex Iwobi against Croatia, he never looked back in subsequent games. His speed caused Iceland and Argentina all manner of headaches and his two goals cemented his place in Nigeria’s World Cup history. He’s now the all-time leading World Cup scorer for Nigeria, first Nigerian to score in two different World Cups and the scorer of Nigeria’s last four World Cup goals. Musa rediscovered himself in time and should not be short of suitors if he decides to quit Leicester City this summer. (8.5)

Oghenekaro Etebo (Las Palmas, Spain)

3 Games; 360 minutes

Another unheralded player who stole into the starting lineup basically because Ogenyi Onazi struggled for form while he shone brightly against England in a pre-World Cup friendly. After three games in Russia, Etebo has made himself undroppable from Gernot Rohr’s starting 11 with some energetic performances which helped steady Nigeria’s midfield while occasionally wandering further afield. He was rated as having the best successful take-on dribbles during the group stages, bettering even Lionel Messi. Etebo was one of the Eagles’ stand out players. (cool

Odion Ighalo (Changchun Yatai, China)

3 Games; 122 minutes

China-based Ighalo did his reputation no good as he was easily picked as the scapegoat for Nigeria’s 2-1 loss to Argentina after fluffing two very good opportunities to score. He started against Croatia but was pulled off and was a second half substitute in the other two games. His apology to Nigerians accepting blame for the game summed up his World Cup. (4)

John Obi Mikel (Tianjin TEDA, China)[/b[url]]

3 Games; 358 minutes; 1YC

Mikel played all but two minutes of all three games though he came off deep into injury time against Argenttina. A true captain, Mikel led from the front and even played the last game against Argentina with his left hand in a cast. He played in a more withdrawn role in the last two games to accommodate the new formation and was an inspiration to the whole team although he was criticised in the 2-0 loss to Croatia. He bounced back and was a trojan for the Super Eagles in his second appearance at the World Cup. (7.5)


[b]Victor Moses (Chelsea, England)


3 Games; 360 minutes; 1Goal

Cool as cucumber when taking the penalty for Nigeria’s only goal against Argentina, Moses was part of the attacking outlets for the Super Eagles at the World Cup. His breakaway and pin-point cross assisted Ahmed Musa’s first goal against Iceland but he was culpable for Marcos Rojo’s late winner for Argentina when he failed to backtrack in time to cut off the Argentina. Rather than his usual wing position, he was made to play as a wingback in the last two games and he did creditably well, supporting the attack when needed and shoring up the defence too. (7)

Shehu Abdullahi (Bursaspor, Turkey)

1 Game; 90 minutes

Shehu was one of Nigeria’s best players during the qualifying games, even winning the Man of the Match gong in the 1-0 crucial win over Zambia in Uyo but a shocking loss of form and a tweak in tactical formation saw him lose his spot in Russia after the opening game defeat by Croatia where he posted a below-par performance. He never had a second chance to redeem himself as Moses was drafted in to play at wingback, effectively taking his place. (4)

Simeon Nwankwo (Crotone, Italy)

2 Games; 7 minutes

A total of seven minutes from two substitute appearances summed up Simy Nwankwo’s World Cup after he gate-crashed the party during pre-World Cup training camp. He was supposed to be the second striker after Ighalo but apparently Gernot Rohr did not know him well enough to entrust scoring duties to him at the World Cup. Giving the limited appearance, it will be harsh to rate him too lowly. (3)



Kelechi Iheanacho (Leicester City, England)

3 Games; 149 minutes

Iheanacho featured in all three games but was a substitute in all. He started on the bench against Croatia, started against both Iceland and Argentina and showed some flashes of brilliance with his hold-up plays and work-rate. His most famous contribution was when he escaped Javier Mascherano’s lunge to the head in the last match against Argentina. Must do much more to get into Gernot Rohr’s good grace again. (4)

Alex Iwobi (Arsenal, England)

3 Games; 70 minutes

Iwobi started brightly against Croatia and was one of the few shining lights in the game. He played for 62 minutes before going off but Gernot Rohr’s decision to change tactical formation cost him his place and he was restricted to two further cameo appearances not lasting more than eight minutes in total. Not enough to see much of the player who had high expectations going to the World Cup. (4)

Tyronne Ebuehi (ADO Den Haag, Netherlands)

1 Game; 45 minutes

The young Ebuehi played only one half of one game after coming in for Brian Idowu but, in that 45 minutes, he showed both sides of his game. He showed courage, for one so young and lanky, as he checkmated the bigger Icelandic players. Towards the end of the game, his naivety showed as he gave up a penalty that could have changed the complexion of the game had Gyfil Sigurdsson converted it. (4.5)

Kenneth Omeruo (Kasımpaşa, Turkey)

2 Games; 180 minutes

After missing the first game, a change of tactics handed Omeruo his first start and he thrived in a three-man defence with Troost-Ekong and Balogun. Played arguably his best game in a Super Eagles shirt against Iceland as he was instrumental in both Nigerian goals. His powerful header out of the box started the move for Musa’s first goal and his long clearance from deep inside the Nigerian half fell in Musa’s path for the second. He was partly responsible for Nigeria being able to deal with crosses from set-pieces as he towered above all in the penalty area. Was however caught out by Lionel Messi for Argentina’s first goal and also partly culpable for Iceland’s penalty. (5.5)



Ikechukwu Ezenwa (Enyimba, Nigeria) – No games

Elderson Echiéjilé (Cercle Brugge, Belgium) – No games

Joel Obi (Torino, Italy) – No games

Daniel Akpeyi (Chippa United, South Africa) – No games

Ogenyi Onazi (Trabzonspor, Turkey) – No games

John Ogu (Hapoel Be’er Sheva, Israel) – No games

Chidozie Awaziem (Nantes, France) – No games

https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/average-how-nigerian-players-rated-at-russia-2018-world-cup/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 10:31am On Jun 29, 2018
maidaboi:
Iheanacho and ighalo should stay away from the super eagle striking roles
come on bro. iheanacho is a striker a fair one also. whether some of us like it or not
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 10:33am On Jun 29, 2018
Joebie:
Exactly what I said would happen to the rest African teams. I’m not saying “I told you so” o
lol. then what are you saying
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 10:35am On Jun 29, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
I think Finidi, Siasia, Amunike and other ex internationals should get club jobs and keep them before I will be comfortable with them at the helm. That said I think our next coach should come from a club so that we actually know what he is about. IMO a coach doesn't necessarily have to be good at the international level for things to go right.

I say all that to say that I feel a change is needed. Rohr has done a great job, he stabilized our team and brought much needed discipline but we could do much more.
isn't amunike in sudan?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 10:37am On Jun 29, 2018
Fadiga24:
Hit like if you think this team can win AFCON hit share if you think otherwise
with the way we played our last two games, by the grace of God if our players keep developing and remain humble, we will destroy teams on our way to the title
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:55am On Jun 29, 2018
forgiveness, how come 3 games is 360mins. Abi complete sports Don dey high ni? lol


3*90=270 mins na!!



CAF should work on churning out as t least 10refs so that Africa can get respect as again. only 1ref and it's very depressing.


Imagine the respect and fear that would do to balance the imbalance to Africa. these European teams go hearam.


5 Vs 13
imagine

and now that it's about to be 48teams now.... they still wana increase European slots?!!!! arggghh.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:13am On Jun 29, 2018
goldfish80:


I don't know about Moses Simon's Liverpool move but it seems to have gone cold. Let's not count our chickens yet. Ajayi muted move to Sporting Lisbon may not be the best either because Sporting are a mess currently. Their players are tearing out their contracts, their Manger left and the new appointed manager left after just 9 days. The place is one giant mess currently.
Anyway be that as it may, my point remains we don't really have hot prospects who clubs are going crazy to sign. Non of our players are on the cusp of being world class, not even Ndidi.

I answered you based on the your statement I bolded below. On that, you are wrong because Liverpool is looking for Simon Moses, Sporting Lisbon is looking for Ajayi Junior seriously whether they are in a mess or not is inconsequential, Porto is looking for Kelechi Nwakali, and they want Awaziem and Agu back in their team, Besiktas is looking for Onyekuru, Rangers is seriously looking for Sadiq Umar, Marseilles, Fernebache and Galatasaray are looking for Ahmed Musa, and Sharktar Donetsk and Benfica have already signed Kayode and Ebuehi.

Liverpool really wanted Awoniyi in their team but for work permit issue, he will be sent on lone to one of the top clubs looking for him. I have not mentioned our FB hot prospect chased by some ambitious clubs or are already in the rise in a big club ooooooo.

But suddenly, you changed argument to, we don't have hot prospects who clubs are crazy to sign and none is on the cusp of being world class player. When some have ALREADY been signed by big clubs, and clubs have PUBLICLY made their intention known in the media.

Even if a club is crazy to sign you, they still have to meet the parent club requirement. It doesn't mean they are not interested in a player.


goldfish80:

Big clubs such as Real Madrid? I don't think so. We don't have hot prospects big clubs are looking for. I can only think of Ahmed MUSA going to Fernebache or Galatasaray and Nwakali at Porto and non of them will walk into the first 11.
We must be humble enough to admit that we don't have hot prospects. Even Iwobi could be axed if he underperforms with the sweeping changes at Arsenal, he doesn't have Wenger to babysit him anymore.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:19am On Jun 29, 2018
daveP:
forgiveness, how come 3 games is 360mins. Abi complete sports Don dey high ni? lol


3*90=270 mins na!!



CAF should work on churning out as t least 10refs so that Africa can get respect as again. only 1ref and it's very depressing.


Imagine the respect and fear that would do to balance the imbalance to Africa. these European teams go hearam.


5 Vs 13
imagine

and now that it's about to be 48teams now.... they still wana increase European slots?!!!! arggghh.



na so I see am.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 11:50am On Jun 29, 2018
charlesemeka85:
you are sick for recommending the likes of siasia and co. what tangible have this so called ex international masqurading as coaches achieved when the chance was given to them? why are they so lazy to get others jobs rather than sit back around the corner and praying that the coach of the super eagles will be sacked for them to gain a chance of getting the job. why are they so lazy or inept to seek for jobs outside the shores of nigerian or take up a club from our local league to tinker? i said this before and will continue to say it, the worst mistake the nff will make is handing the responsibility of the eagles coaching job to any indigenous coach.
. GBAM!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:59am On Jun 29, 2018
forgiveness:


I answered you based on the your statement I bolded below. On that, you are wrong because Liverpool is looking for Simon Moses, Sporting Lisbon is looking for Ajayi Junior seriously whether they are in a mess or not is inconsequential, Porto is looking for Kelechi Nwakali, and they want Awaziem and Agu back in their team, Besiktas is looking for Onyekuru, Rangers is seriously looking for Sadiq Umar, Marseilles, Fernebache and Galatasaray are looking for Ahmed Musa, and Sharktar Donetsk and Benfica have already signed Kayode and Ebuehi.

Liverpool really wanted Awoniyi in their team but for work permit issue, he will be sent on lone to one of the top clubs looking for him. I have not mentioned our FB hot prospect chased by some ambitious clubs or are already in the rise in a big club ooooooo.

But suddenly, you changed argument to, we don't have hot prospects who clubs are crazy to sign and none is on the cusp of being world class player. When some have ALREADY been signed by big clubs, and clubs have PUBLICLY made their intention known in the media.

Even if a club is crazy to sign you, they still have to meet the parent club requirement. It doesn't mean they are not interested in a player.




Sorry to say, only Liverpool is what I will consider "big club" in the real sense of it out of the lot you mentioned and the links to Moses Simon haven't been heard of for almost a month now. Also for a fact, if the move happens, Simon would be a squad filler more than anything else. We have always known about the Awoniyi's, he's just a player they will move on when he becomes market wardy.

When I'm talking of big clubs going for our players, I mean top tier level 1 clubs in the big 4 European leagues looking for Nigerians who will improve their first team.
We simply don't have such quality players now. Look at Keita at Liverpool, when you look at his move, you know this guy is signed to improve the first 11 of a huge club. Sporting Lisbon,Rangers, shaktar and the likes are tier 2 clubs.
This Nigerian pomposity is the reason some overrated this present team to Russia, believing they are good enough for semi finals. We must be humble.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:15pm On Jun 29, 2018
EmmGee:

isn't amunike in sudan?

Got sacked after some games but I don't think he did so bad. He just needs to get on with things and get another job.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:38pm On Jun 29, 2018
goldfish80:

Big clubs such as Real Madrid? I don't think so. We don't have hot prospects big clubs are looking for. I can only think of Ahmed MUSA going to Fernebache or Galatasaray and Nwakali at Porto and non of them will walk into the first 11.
We must be humble enough to admit that we don't have hot prospects. Even Iwobi could be axed if he underperforms with the sweeping changes at Arsenal, he doesn't have Wenger to babysit him anymore.

If you meant to top 4 European league then what is the meaning of the bolded?

goldfish80:

Sorry to say, only Liverpool is what I will consider "big club" in the real sense of it out of the lot you mentioned and the links to Moses Simon haven't been heard of for almost a month now. Also for a fact, if the move happens, Simon would be a squad filler more than anything else. We have always known about the Awoniyi's, he's just a player they will move on when he becomes market wardy.

When I'm talking of big clubs going for our players, I mean top tier level 1 clubs in the big 4 European leagues looking for Nigerians who will improve their first team.
We simply don't have such quality players now. Look at Keita at Liverpool, when you look at his move, you know this guy is signed to improve the first 11 of a huge club. Sporting Lisbon,Rangers, shaktar and the likes are tier 2 clubs.
This Nigerian pomposity is the reason some overrated this present team to Russia, believing they are good enough for semi finals. We must be humble.

Your ranking of 'big clubs' is really inconsequential, sorry to say, if UEFA rankings still exist and is put into consideration. Fact

In this light, I will quote the rules that determines a big club in the real sense based on UEFA coefficients rules.

''The club coefficient rankings are determined by the results of clubs in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League over the previous five seasons, as well as by the coefficient of the clubs' association. The club coefficient is the sum of the points earned by the club over the five seasons, but no less than 20% of the club's association coefficient.''

As you can see, the ratings of a club is not only determined by the leagues they play but by the performance of a club in UEFA competitions. And this sum the reason Real Madrid is the biggest club/best club in the world. Followed by Athletico Madrid.

In sequence, till you get to fc Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk and Benfica who occupies the 11th, 14th and 15th position respectively in the UEFA coefficient big club/top club rankings, even before you get to Liverpool which is sharing the 22nd position with Dynamo Kiev and Schalke 04.

Please take note that the ranking emphasied on the consistent performance of a club in the UEFA competitions in the last 5 years. That is the key. And it is your performance that earns you money that is used to attract and brings players to associate with your club. Except for those oil money funded clubs.

Of course, Liverpool is a big club, so is Ac Milan and Olympics Marseille (not until this year) but the performance of the later two in the last five years in UEFA competition left nothing to desire. They are only paper Tigers.

That is why in the last 2 - 3 years no big players will want to move to Liverpool, Ac Milan or Marseille. Facts

It's just recently Liverpool and Marseille are picking up.

Though players still go to Ac Milan and Olympics Marseille because of media focus and the potential they have but they are not like before. Nothing less.

I purposely used Sporting Lisbon and Rangers-fc as a bait and you never disappoint to fall to the trap. grin

Separate pomposity from facts and reality. Then you can see big clubs according to UEFA rankings are looking for our boys. This is fact.

Now, You can do better.

Now, tell me how many World class players France have? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:41pm On Jun 29, 2018
I’m saying I didn’t say “I told you” grin
EmmGee:

lol. then what are you saying
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:43pm On Jun 29, 2018
Lol.. many of us are very heartbroken. I had the best intentions after all

Kog45:
Haha Joebie,na our habits be dat na and we are all involved "I TOLD YOU" our synonymous SLOGAN aftermath.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:52pm On Jun 29, 2018
forgiveness:




If you meant to top 4 European league then what is the meaning of the bolded?



Your rating of 'big clubs' is really inconsequential, sorry to say, if UEFA rankings still exist and is put into consideration. Fact

In this light, I will quote the rules that determines a big club in the real sense based on UEFA coefficients rules.

''The club coefficient rankings are determined by the results of clubs in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League over the previous five seasons, as well as by the coefficient of the clubs' association. The club coefficient is the sum of the points earned by the club over the five seasons, but no less than 20% of the club's association coefficient.''

As you can see, the ratings of a club is not only determined by the leagues they play but by the performance of a club in UEFA competitions. And this sums the reason Real Madrid is the biggest club/best club in the world. Followed by Athletico Madrid.

In sequence, till you get to fc Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk and Benfica who occupies the 11th, 14th and 15th position respectively in the UEFA coefficient big club/top club rankings even before you get to Liverpool which is sharing the 22nd position with Dynamo Kiev and Schalke 04.

Please take note that the ranking emphasied on the consistent performance of a club in the last 5 years. That is the key.

Of course, Liverpool is a big club, so is Ac Milan and Olympics Marseille (not until this year) but the performance of the later two in the last five years in UEFA competition left nothing to desire. They are only paper Tigers.

That is why in the last 2 - 3 no big players will want to move to Liverpool, Ac Milan or Marseille. Facts

It's just recently Liverpool and Marseille are picking up.

Though players still go to Ac Milan and Olympics Marseille because of media focus and the potential they have but they are not like before. Nothing less.

I purposely used Sporting Lisbon and Rangers-fc as a bait and you never disappoint to fall to the trap. grin

Separate pomposity from facts and reality. Then you can see big clubs according to UEFA rankings are looking for our boys. This is fact.

Now, You can do better.

Now, tell me how many World class players France have? grin

I used Ahmed Musa going to Galatasaray n Nwakali maybe going to Porto as the potential biggest moves which could materialize.
If these transfers happened to be the biggest moves made by Nigerians and these clubs are not in the apex category of European clubs, then we don't really have players being looked at by big teams. The earlier we realize that Nigeria haven't been producing real star players, the better for everyone.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 1:54pm On Jun 29, 2018
Whoever is our U17 gaffer should try to draft in Noni Madueke, 16 year former spurs youth midfielder that recently shunned Chelsea and ManU for PSV in the Eredivisie.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:07pm On Jun 29, 2018
goldfish80:


I used Ahmed Musa going to Galatasaray n Nwakali maybe going to Porto as the potential biggest moves which could materialize.
If these transfers happened to be the biggest moves made by Nigerians and these clubs are not in the apex category of European clubs, then we don't really have players being looked at by big teams. The earlier we realize that Nigeria haven't been producing real star players, the better for everyone.

Now it is Apex category of European clubs. grin


You are wrong. Nigerian players have already moved to clubs bigger than Galassatary. Shahktar Donetsk

Bigger than Porto. Benfica

Currently in apex clubs bigger than Benfica and Porto. Arsenal and Chelsea

And still more likely to move to Liverpool.

Now, name those apex clubs.

And please tell me how many World class player France have?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:39pm On Jun 29, 2018
liverpool to offer belgian club gent 13 million euros plus awoniyi for the signature of moses simon. awoniyi will be joining gent on loan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:43pm On Jun 29, 2018
red bull salzburg, fenebache, anderlecht, sk brann and amiens shows interest to sign man untd youth teamer tosin kehinde whose contract will run out in few days

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 2:43pm On Jun 29, 2018
Ekong on the brink of a Lille move.

Not bad for an average defender.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:44pm On Jun 29, 2018
E don do with this una “average” talk. The players are earning a living. It’s not their fault they chose football.

ChrisKels:
Ekong on the brink of a Lille move.


Not bad for an average defender.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 2:49pm On Jun 29, 2018
charlesemeka85:
red bull salzburg, fenebache, anderlecht, sk brann and amiens shows interest to sign man untd youth teamer tosin kehinde whose contract will run out in few days

Bar Fenerbache, I like the teams looking for his signature though I would implore his handlers to look for a Spanish or German midtable team or better yet find a more reputable club in ligue1 than Amiens.


Otherwise, If I was to make a pick from those mentioned four, I would pick Amiens and then Salzburg

Salzburg horn talents and they play beautiful footie
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 2:51pm On Jun 29, 2018
Joebie:
E don do with this una “average” talk. The players are earning a living. It’s not their fault they chose football.



Are u done with ur "I told you mantra"? Who takes ur opinion here seriously anymore?

Shift make I see road abeg.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 2:55pm On Jun 29, 2018
Still waiting to hear from Omeruo. Dude should find himself a decent club maybe in France to settle down. Enough with the loan moves just to maintain the tag "Chelsea player"

I pray Ekong's move materialises and Iorfa regains his place at Wolves. Our defense should consist of players from the top leagues who fight every day with the best strikers the world can offer.

Awaziem and Balo are there already
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:56pm On Jun 29, 2018
that will be a good move. lille is a decent club in ligue 1
ChrisKels:
Ekong on the brink of a Lille move.


Not bad for an average defender.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:57pm On Jun 29, 2018
Hahahahaha

Modified
“Who takes you seriously”

Oga u keep things for mind o. You should have tackled me then, at least u wouldn’t have to carry that grudge for days. I beg no vex, I’m sorry.

ChrisKels:



Are u done with ur "I told you mantra"? Who takes ur opinion here seriously anymore?

Shift make I see road abeg.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 2:59pm On Jun 29, 2018
Joebie:
Hahahahaha

U really annoyed me with those negative thoughts. I was so disappointed because I av always been ur fan even though u can be silly sometimes.

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