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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by OlujobaSamuel: 3:03pm On Jul 07, 2018
i know there are conditions to work in nigeria wothout it, but i never knew she is a customer of Oluwole and Son's Ltd

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by TRUTHTOPOWER: 3:12pm On Jul 07, 2018
aribisala0:


The real question for determination is did she out of ignorance of the above go ahead to forge an exemption certificate and present the same to the senate?

I do not think the outside Nigeria thing is of any relevance whatsoever.

What you think is irrelevant in legal proceedings. An offence has been alleged. The standard of proof is beyond reasonable doubt. Her defence is simply her legal Exemption. The issue of forging your own right is legally ridiculous. At any rate, she is not the issuer of the so called forged Exemption. She has no legal need to get by backdoor what is hers by legal right.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by MaziOmenuko: 3:13pm On Jul 07, 2018
Daft submission, thought I was going to read something reasonable. Sounded like the submission of a charge and bail lawyer.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by aribisala0(m): 3:16pm On Jul 07, 2018
TRUTHTOPOWER:


What you think is irrelevant in legal proceedings. An offence has been alleged. The standard of proof is beyond reasonable doubt. Her defence is simply her legal Exemption. The issue of forging your own right is legally ridiculous. At any rate, she is not the issuer of the so called forged Exemption. She has no legal need to get by backdoor what is hers by legal right.
I am not understanding your English

I am sure it makes sense to you but you are not communicating.
How do you know she is not the issuer? Are you her lawyer?
Stick to factts that you know

The emboldened sentencees are gibberish

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by buharitill2023: 3:44pm On Jul 07, 2018
globexpo:
And she's busy forging our economy with joblessness with ND while some are comparing her with Okonjo .
This is a crime
did okonjo served?

Kemi was not suppose to present nysc certificate, nobody ask her.
Her oversabi has put her in the jungle.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by ednut1(m): 3:47pm On Jul 07, 2018
Hmmmm
Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by OfficialAPCNig: 4:14pm On Jul 07, 2018
puccyforker:
[s][/s] wait? ngeneukwenu is criticizing Kemi?
something is wrong somewhere
Lalasticlala Mynd44 please check the authenticity of this account shocked
They are owing her June salary.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by BlackBaron: 4:28pm On Jul 07, 2018
The position is that 'she forged'... But if she was to take up a paid position in Nigeria, it was essential!
Or unless you own your business, then you would not care.
The loophole here is not everyone would also be able to attend higher institution which is kind of discriminatory cos its likely competent persons without a degree may be overlooked for senior positions where NYSC certificate may be required of.

An alternative is every Nigerian youth would have to serve the country at a point in their life irrespective of qualifications.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by docadams: 4:46pm On Jul 07, 2018
aribisala0:
She is bound to perform the NYSC but like many elites who schooled abroad she just bailed.

Whether or not she forged an exxemption is another matter.

But


The following people did not do NYSC

Okonjo-Iweala
Dieziani Allison
Bola Tinubu
Ibe Kachickwu
Pat Utomi
Andy Uba

Icould go on and on

Terrible, if above proves to be true.
Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by aribisala0(m): 4:53pm On Jul 07, 2018
docadams:


Terrible, if above proves to be true.
That is just tthe tip of the Icebeg. Some names will shock you

Some people "served" in their own states in their fathers' banks and othe business and in some cases resuming on day one of NYSC as "Director" or "Executive"

All Buhari needs to do is issue an Executive Order

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by docadams: 4:56pm On Jul 07, 2018
aribisala0:
https://www.nairaland.com/699899/diezani-allison-madueke-skipped-nysc

Orisirisi. The poor will always be poor and the rich will always be rich.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by gaby(m): 5:23pm On Jul 07, 2018
aribisala0:
She is bound to perform the NYSC but like many elites who schooled abroad she just bailed.

Whether or not she forged an exxemption is another matter.

But


The following people did not do NYSC

Okonjo-Iweala
Dieziani Allison
Bola Tinubu
Ibe Kachickwu
Pat Utomi
Andy Uba

Icould go on and on

Check the ages of most of the people you listed, find out when they graduated and then juxtapose that with when NYSC was founded.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by docadams: 5:26pm On Jul 07, 2018
GavelSlam:


Are you sure of Pat Utomi?

It may be true. He was 24years old when he became a political adviser. He schooled in U.S and graduated woth a first class degree. He was mostly prominent in the private sector.The circumstances might have contributed

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by GavelSlam: 5:29pm On Jul 07, 2018
docadams:


It may be true. He was 24years old when he became a political adviser. He schooled in U.S and graduated woth a first class degree. He was mostly prominent in the private sector.The circumstances might have contributed

Hmmm.

Not a good picture if you asked me.

They can't be compelling the less privilege whilst bypassing the same hurdle.
Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by aribisala0(m): 5:29pm On Jul 07, 2018
gaby:


Check the ages of most of the people you listed, find out when they graduated and then juxtapose that with when NYSC was founded.

Don't be daft.

Not every one talks idly without facts

Go and do that and come back here to tell us how foolish you are

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by docadams: 5:32pm On Jul 07, 2018
GavelSlam:


Hmmm.

Not a good picture if you asked me.

They can't be compelling the less privilege whilst bypassing the same hurdle.

No be today my brother. This is Animal farm.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by tit(f): 5:42pm On Jul 07, 2018
Buhari is the father of corruption

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by Babacele: 5:44pm On Jul 07, 2018
aribisala0:
That is just tthe tip of the Icebeg. Some names will shock you

Some people "served" in their own states in their fathers' banks and othe business and in some cases resuming on day one of NYSC as "Director" or "Executive"

All Buhari needs to do is issue an Executive Order
e.g saraki?

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by docadams: 5:46pm On Jul 07, 2018
aribisala0:
That is just tthe tip of the Icebeg. Some names will shock you

Some people "served" in their own states in their fathers' banks and othe business and in some cases resuming on day one of NYSC as "Director" or "Executive"

All Buhari needs to do is issue an Executive Order

We used to have Toronto certificates, now 'Oluwole' NYSC discharge pali.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by LazyNairalander(m): 5:49pm On Jul 07, 2018
I have lost trust in anyone that's partaking in this government .
especially the Yorubas ranging from the so called pastor to the so called Daddy G O who imposed this government but has gone mute over the calamity he and that one in ANEN Enugu state brought upon this our beloved country.
God is indeed watching all of una.




check my SIGNATURE

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by adisabarber(m): 5:50pm On Jul 07, 2018
Dem say person forge certificate una say she no need to serve.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by divinelove(m): 5:50pm On Jul 07, 2018
TRUTHTOPOWER:
Fact. Mrs. Adeosun graduated from The East London Polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA in 1989.

The status of the polytechnic was CHANGED to a University was IN 1992.

Note the capitalised words. "OUTSIDE NIGERIA" and "CHANGE"

QUESTION FOR DETERMINATION
Whether upon graduation from a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA, in line with section 2 (1)(c) Kemi Adeosun was required by law to participate in NYSC.

ANSWER.
Section 2 (1) (c) contains no provision or stipulation that a Polytechnic graduate outside Nigeria or a diploma holder outside Nigeria SHALL be eligible for call up to NYSC.

This is unlike UNIVERSITY GRADUATE as contained under S (1)(b)

The law is settled that inclusion of one is the exclusion of others.
Inclusio unius (est) exclusio alterius. Latin legal maxim that makes the point that where a statute, contract or other legal document includes a definitional list of items falling into a category, the inclusion of certain items on the list means that any excluded items are intentionally outside the definition. Simple Wiki definition.

Since this is a legal matter, a serious news agency ought to seek opinion of lawyers on whether Mrs Adeosun is under strict legal obligation to participate in NYSC as graduate of a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA

References
Requirement of NYSC Act

2 (1) (b)If, at the end of the academic year 1974–75 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have graduated at any university outside Nigeria; or

(C) if, at the end of the academic year 1975–76 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have obtained the Higher National Diploma or such other professional qualification as may be prescribed;

Exemption

2 (2) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, with effect from 1 August 1985, a person shall not be called upon to serve in the service corps if, at the date of his graduation or obtaining his diploma or other professional qualification—

(a) he is over the age of thirty; or

why did she forge one

Forgery is a criminal offence n she should be arrested without further details if the forgery case has sufficient evidence

d issue is not that she doesn't have one but that she forged one

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by MANNABBQGRILLS: 5:50pm On Jul 07, 2018
END OF DISCUSSION

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by Lomprico2: 5:50pm On Jul 07, 2018
TRUTHTOPOWER:


It is mandatory for graduates of universities and polytechnics under the age of 30. Employment or no employment.

Discharge Certificate or Exemption certificate is just a condition for employment.

And does she have that?
Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by shedy03(m): 5:51pm On Jul 07, 2018
NgeneUkwenu:
Then why did she forge(if proven to be) one?
U have a point.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by computer0810(m): 5:51pm On Jul 07, 2018
Mille:
I have a question of my own.

Is NYSC mandatory for a foreign graduate who is on an "INTERNATIONAL CONTRACT" in an NGO in Nigeria?

Is it also mandatory for a similar person, but with a local contract in an NGO.

I'm asking because according to premiumtimes, NYSC is mandatory for employment in public and private sectors in Nigeria and an NGO does not conform to any of both categories.

I would appreciate an honest reply.

cc: TRUTHTOPOWER
ur question is not inline with subject of the matter, forge certificate of exception but ur question can be answer on NYSC twitter or FB dey r active and will answer ur stupid defensive question, u think we r fool like u
Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by vertueptime: 5:51pm On Jul 07, 2018
GavelSlam:
If she falls foul of any law she should be sacked forthwith.



The execs won't, its only the NaSS that so rightfully represents nigerias intrest that will act on that and mount pressure till some thing is done

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by Marchman: 5:51pm On Jul 07, 2018
So why did she forge the Nysc excemption certificate?

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by Babacele: 5:51pm On Jul 07, 2018
Premium times should have posted the photo of the said document to clear our doubts but then if the forgery allegation isn't true, Anty Kemi should go ahead and sue them in the next few days or demand an apology or else we would believe Premium Times. shikenan.

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by BruncleZuma: 5:52pm On Jul 07, 2018
grin grin grin grin

Attacks, Rebuttals and Denials...

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Re: NYSC: Kemi Adeosun Not Legally Required To Participate by Olumeme: 5:53pm On Jul 07, 2018
Nigeria will never move forward, no matter how glaring something is, people will still turn it.

1. If we are to say it that way, then a graduate of UNILAG should not go for service too, because the law did not specifically mention UNILAG na, or any school.

2. If foreign graduates are not mentioned, then why do NYSC have consideration for foreign trained students?

3. If NYSC is not important or does not determine competence, why is she forging then, he even forged with retired DG

NYSC is for Nigerians who intend to work in a Nigeria not for foreigners

In a serious country she should have released her NYSC discharge certificate or service number and details, when Dino Melaye was accused of not graduating, zombies were all over the internet masturbating even when he presented his certificate and his VC defended him.

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