GavelSlam:


Are you sure of Pat Utomi?

NoDulling4here:


I suppose the only 'evidence' of forgery is that the person who signed her discharge certificate was not working in the NYSC as at the time she was supposedly discharged.

Isn't it possible that that person bulksigned discharge certificates in advance? That is a possibility.

nezer83:


Are u kidding me? Bulksigned after 9 months of exit from NYSC?? WOW!!!

Juliusmalema:
what a lame assertion trying to defend the garbage she obtained from East-london...


Kemi Adeosun must be investigated now and she must resign and face the full wrath of the law....
No wonder she connived with buhari and osibanjo and plunged Nigeria into recession.
.......and it even took since months to appoint this ineffectual buffoon called kemi as minister............

A minster who keeps her job on forgery........

A minster who doesn't know that 22+2 is 24.....
Her actions is unprecedented in modern day civil service and must be condemned in strong terms....
how can a low born parading a low class certificate preside over a nations finance ministry.....
No wonder all her actions bleeds ineffectiveness and Bill Gate wondered when he visited Nigeria why such a low crass educated being should be a minister...
She has forged Nigeria and Nigeria treasury up to this day...

and u have to wonder if the nations treasury is as she says or is it also forged

Adeosun should resign and go.....she represent everything fake.....
and fake must be her name onwards.....
I spit on such a shameful being.......
SACK ADEOSUN NOW....

Mille:
I have a question of my own.

Is NYSC mandatory for a foreign graduate who is on an "INTERNATIONAL CONTRACT" in an NGO in Nigeria?

Is it also mandatory for a similar person, but with a local contract in an NGO.

I'm asking because according to premiumtimes, NYSC is mandatory for employment in public and private sectors in Nigeria and an NGO does not conform to any of both categories.

I would appreciate an honest reply.

cc: TRUTHTOPOWER

Juliusmalema:
what a lame assertion trying to defend the garbage she obtained from East-london...


Kemi Adeosun must be investigated now and she must resign and face the full wrath of the law....
No wonder she connived with buhari and osibanjo and plunged Nigeria into recession.
.......and it even took since months to appoint this ineffectual buffoon called kemi as minister............

A minster who keeps her job on forgery........

A minster who doesn't know that 22+2 is 24.....
Her actions is unprecedented in modern day civil service and must be condemned in strong terms....
how can a low born parading a low class certificate preside over a nations finance ministry.....
No wonder all her actions bleeds ineffectiveness and Bill Gate wondered when he visited Nigeria why such a low crass educated being should be a minister...
She has forged Nigeria and Nigeria treasury up to this day...

and u have to wonder if the nations treasury is as she says or is it also forged

Adeosun should resign and go.....she represent everything fake.....
and fake must be her name onwards.....
I spit on such a shameful being.......
SACK ADEOSUN NOW....

Mille:


Thank you for the answer.

So what advice would you have for someone who already works for an international NGO, has not done the NYSC and wants to be transferred to Nigeria.

Called up back then, posted to Northern Nigeria and refused to go for security reasons as an outspoken atheist.

bewla:
yes I agreed she should be sack but even that guy u bill gate self no get certificate na middle class drop out

NgeneUkwenu:
Then why did she forge(if proven to be) one?

NgeneUkwenu:
Then why did she forge(if proven to be) one?

GavelSlam:
If she falls foul of any law she should be sacked forthwith.

tempest01:



E be like say BMC don decide for group chat to drop this woman to fate...This one you and ngene no dey defend.

TRUTHTOPOWER:


The fact I know is the fact presumed by law: she is innocent until accusers produce credible evidence videos, records or eyewitnesses of the process of forgery.

Convictions are not secured by hatred or wailing.

TRUTHTOPOWER:
Fact. Mrs. Adeosun graduated from The East London Polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA in 1989.

The status of the polytechnic was CHANGED to a University was IN 1992.

Note the capitalised words. "OUTSIDE NIGERIA" and "CHANGE"

QUESTION FOR DETERMINATION
Whether upon graduation from a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA, in line with section 2 (1)(c) Kemi Adeosun was required by law to participate in NYSC.

ANSWER.
Section 2 (1) (c) contains no provision or stipulation that a Polytechnic graduate outside Nigeria or a diploma holder outside Nigeria SHALL be eligible for call up to NYSC.

This is unlike UNIVERSITY GRADUATE as contained under S (1)(b)

The law is settled that inclusion of one is the exclusion of others.
Inclusio unius (est) exclusio alterius. Latin legal maxim that makes the point that where a statute, contract or other legal document includes a definitional list of items falling into a category, the inclusion of certain items on the list means that any excluded items are intentionally outside the definition. Simple Wiki definition.

Since this is a legal matter, a serious news agency ought to seek opinion of lawyers on whether Mrs Adeosun is under strict legal obligation to participate in NYSC as graduate of a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA

References
Requirement of NYSC Act

2 (1) (b)If, at the end of the academic year 1974–75 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have graduated at any university outside Nigeria; or

(C) if, at the end of the academic year 1975–76 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have obtained the Higher National Diploma or such other professional qualification as may be prescribed;

Exemption

2 (2) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, with effect from 1 August 1985, a person shall not be called upon to serve in the service corps if, at the date of his graduation or obtaining his diploma or other professional qualification—

(a) he is over the age of thirty; or

Mille:


Thank you for the answer.

So what advice would you have for someone who already works for an international NGO, has not done the NYSC and wants to be transferred to Nigeria.

Called up back then, posted to Northern Nigeria and refused to go for security reasons as an outspoken atheist.

TRUTHTOPOWER:
I usually refrain from insulting people. Arguing against provisions of law is, I am compelled to say, plain stupid.ty.

Claiming Mrs Adeosun forged a document is an infantile heresay that no judge worth his gavel will ever admit as a shadow of evidence let alone evidence in itself.

The paper even claimed she is not entitled to Exemption and gave no legal ground except the general assumption that as a graduate she should have participated in NYSC.

Of course, there is no limit to evil in the hearts of some men.

BlackBaron:
The position is that 'she forged'... But if she was to take up a paid position in Nigeria, it was essential!
Or unless you own your business, then you would not care.
The loophole here is not everyone would also be able to attend higher institution which is kind of discriminatory cos its likely competent persons without a degree may be overlooked for senior positions where NYSC certificate may be required of.

An alternative is every Nigerian youth would have to serve the country at a point in their life irrespective of qualifications.

TRUTHTOPOWER:
Fact. Mrs. Adeosun graduated from The East London Polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA in 1989.

The status of the polytechnic was CHANGED to a University was IN 1992.

Note the capitalised words. "OUTSIDE NIGERIA" and "CHANGE"

QUESTION FOR DETERMINATION
Whether upon graduation from a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA, in line with section 2 (1)(c) Kemi Adeosun was required by law to participate in NYSC.

ANSWER.
Section 2 (1) (c) contains no provision or stipulation that a Polytechnic graduate outside Nigeria or a diploma holder outside Nigeria SHALL be eligible for call up to NYSC.

This is unlike UNIVERSITY GRADUATE as contained under S (1)(b)

The law is settled that inclusion of one is the exclusion of others.
Inclusio unius (est) exclusio alterius. Latin legal maxim that makes the point that where a statute, contract or other legal document includes a definitional list of items falling into a category, the inclusion of certain items on the list means that any excluded items are intentionally outside the definition. Simple Wiki definition.

Since this is a legal matter, a serious news agency ought to seek opinion of lawyers on whether Mrs Adeosun is under strict legal obligation to participate in NYSC as graduate of a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA

References
Requirement of NYSC Act

2 (1) (b)If, at the end of the academic year 1974–75 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have graduated at any university outside Nigeria; or

(C) if, at the end of the academic year 1975–76 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have obtained the Higher National Diploma or such other professional qualification as may be prescribed;

Exemption

2 (2) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, with effect from 1 August 1985, a person shall not be called upon to serve in the service corps if, at the date of his graduation or obtaining his diploma or other professional qualification—

(a) he is over the age of thirty; or

TRUTHTOPOWER:


The fact I know is the fact presumed by law: she is innocent until accusers produce credible evidence videos, records or eyewitnesses of the process of forgery.

Convictions are not secured by hatred or wailing.

Juliusmalema:
what a lame assertion trying to defend the garbage she obtained from East-london...


Kemi Adeosun must be investigated now and she must resign and face the full wrath of the law....
No wonder she connived with buhari and osibanjo and plunged Nigeria into recession.
.......and it even took since months to appoint this ineffectual buffoon called kemi as minister............

A minster who keeps her job on forgery........

A minster who doesn't know that 22+2 is 24.....
Her actions is unprecedented in modern day civil service and must be condemned in strong terms....
how can a low born parading a low class certificate preside over a nations finance ministry.....
No wonder all her actions bleeds ineffectiveness and Bill Gate wondered when he visited Nigeria why such a low crass educated being should be a minister...
She has forged Nigeria and Nigeria treasury up to this day...

and u have to wonder if the nations treasury is as she says or is it also forged

Adeosun should resign and go.....she represent everything fake.....
and fake must be her name onwards.....
I spit on such a shameful being.......
SACK ADEOSUN NOW....

TRUTHTOPOWER:


You mean forge a right she already has by law? All she needs to show is her application for exemption. NYSC is the one to explain the mix up. And to appologise for causing her any embarrassment. It is her legal right.

NoDulling4here:


Forget the bulksigned. I mean signature already printed in the certificates.

Just considering a possibility and not trying to defend the lady.

This is Nigeria.