Nigeria my country. People would openly deny God and justify Satan just to earn a living.

Did she FORGE (criminal offence) her NYSC exemption certificate (a government document) or not. That's the key issue really.

She's not even required by law to be a graduate before being qualified to be appointed a minister, talk less of needing to participate in NYSC. But is she parading a fake NYSC certificate, and is that a criminal offence or not?

TRUTHTOPOWER:


You mean forge a right she already has by law? All she needs to show is her application for exemption. NYSC is the one to explain the mix up. And to appologise for causing her any embarrassment. It is her legal right.

why did she forge nysc certificate if she did not need it by law or why did she go for exemption since by law she never needed to present nysc certificate like every other Nigerians . I pity our country.

Is the debate about wether it is compulsory for a student who graduate abroad to go for NYSC or the issue of forgery? If it's not compulsory why did she forge the certificate?

NgeneUkwenu:
Then why did she forge(if proven to be) one?

for the first time you are making sense.

doctokwus:
There are so many dunces in that evil party that have transferred their dullness and stupidity to nairaland.
This dimwit of a poster is saying Adeosun is not morally bound to perform NYSC.
Then the simple question you should ask is why did she bother forging an NYSC discharge certificate.
Nigeria has been so bastardized by criminals in power that many people no longer realise that forgery of documents is one of the most serious crimes an individual can commit.
Stupid post with a peabrained poster.

Please can we see the forged certificate please?

TRUTHTOPOWER:
Fact. Mrs. Adeosun graduated from The East London Polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA in 1989.

The status of the polytechnic was CHANGED to a University was IN 1992.

Note the capitalised words. "OUTSIDE NIGERIA" and "CHANGE"

QUESTION FOR DETERMINATION
Whether upon graduation from a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA, in line with section 2 (1)(c) Kemi Adeosun was required by law to participate in NYSC.

ANSWER.
Section 2 (1) (c) contains no provision or stipulation that a Polytechnic graduate outside Nigeria or a diploma holder outside Nigeria SHALL be eligible for call up to NYSC.

This is unlike UNIVERSITY GRADUATE as contained under S (1)(b)

The law is settled that inclusion of one is the exclusion of others.
Inclusio unius (est) exclusio alterius. Latin legal maxim that makes the point that where a statute, contract or other legal document includes a definitional list of items falling into a category, the inclusion of certain items on the list means that any excluded items are intentionally outside the definition. Simple Wiki definition.

Since this is a legal matter, a serious news agency ought to seek opinion of lawyers on whether Mrs Adeosun is under strict legal obligation to participate in NYSC as graduate of a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA

References
Requirement of NYSC Act

2 (1) (b)If, at the end of the academic year 1974–75 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have graduated at any university outside Nigeria; or

(C) if, at the end of the academic year 1975–76 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have obtained the Higher National Diploma or such other professional qualification as may be prescribed;

Exemption

2 (2) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, with effect from 1 August 1985, a person shall not be called upon to serve in the service corps if, at the date of his graduation or obtaining his diploma or other professional qualification—

(a) he is over the age of thirty; or

Please what section of the constitution permits her to forge an exemption letter?

You don't seem to get the point. The issue is forgery and not whether or not she's mandated to do national service.

As we argue, Yusuf Buhari and his sister Zahra has not served o.

10years after nah, one will be minister of petroleum resources the other will be minster if women affairs.

What a country!

TRUTHTOPOWER:
Fact. Mrs. Adeosun graduated from The East London Polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA in 1989.

The status of the polytechnic was CHANGED to a University was IN 1992.

Note the capitalised words. "OUTSIDE NIGERIA" and "CHANGE"

QUESTION FOR DETERMINATION
Whether upon graduation from a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA, in line with section 2 (1)(c) Kemi Adeosun was required by law to participate in NYSC.

ANSWER.
Section 2 (1) (c) contains no provision or stipulation that a Polytechnic graduate outside Nigeria or a diploma holder outside Nigeria SHALL be eligible for call up to NYSC.

This is unlike UNIVERSITY GRADUATE as contained under S (1)(b)

The law is settled that inclusion of one is the exclusion of others.
Inclusio unius (est) exclusio alterius. Latin legal maxim that makes the point that where a statute, contract or other legal document includes a definitional list of items falling into a category, the inclusion of certain items on the list means that any excluded items are intentionally outside the definition. Simple Wiki definition.

Since this is a legal matter, a serious news agency ought to seek opinion of lawyers on whether Mrs Adeosun is under strict legal obligation to participate in NYSC as graduate of a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA

References
Requirement of NYSC Act

2 (1) (b)If, at the end of the academic year 1974–75 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have graduated at any university outside Nigeria; or

(C) if, at the end of the academic year 1975–76 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have obtained the Higher National Diploma or such other professional qualification as may be prescribed;

Exemption

2 (2) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, with effect from 1 August 1985, a person shall not be called upon to serve in the service corps if, at the date of his graduation or obtaining his diploma or other professional qualification—

(a) he is over the age of thirty; or

that was not the issue, the issue is did she present a NYSC certificate and was it fake simple,?
all this plenty grammar nah wash.

aribisala0:
She is bound to perform the NYSC but like many elites who schooled abroad she just bailed.

Whether or not she forged an exxemption is another matter.

But


The following people did not do NYSC

Okonjo-Iweala
Dieziani Allison
Bola Tinubu
Ibe Kachickwu
Pat Utomi
Andy Uba

Icould go on and on

even saraki

aribisala0:


Don't be daft.

Not every one talks idly without facts

Go and do that and come back here to tell us how foolish you are

Hmmm...and my submission was enough to resort to the above....It's a pity.

NgeneUkwenu:
Then why did she forge(if proven to be) one?

I suppose the only 'evidence' of forgery is that the person who signed her discharge certificate was not working in the NYSC as at the time she was supposedly discharged.

Isn't it possible that that person bulksigned discharge certificates in advance? That is a possibility.

Juliusmalema:
what a lame assertion trying to defend the garbage she obtained from East-london...


Kemi Adeosun must be investigated now and she must resign and face the full wrath of the law....
No wonder she connived with buhari and osibanjo and plunged Nigeria into recession.
.......and it even took since months to appoint this ineffectual buffoon called kemi as minister............

A minster who keeps her job on forgery........

A minster who doesn't know that 22+2 is 24.....
Her actions is unprecedented in modern day civil service and must be condemned in strong terms....
how can a low born parading a low class certificate preside over a nations finance ministry.....
No wonder all her actions bleeds ineffectiveness and Bill Gate wondered when he visited Nigeria why such a low crass educated being should be a minister...
She has forged Nigeria and Nigeria treasury up to this day...

and u have to wonder if the nations treasury is as she says or is it also forged

Adeosun should resign and go.....she represent everything fake.....
and fake must be her name onwards.....
I spit on such a shameful being.......
SACK ADEOSUN NOW....

You are ranting nonsense. Go and sack her now. yeye person

.thank God I got my nysc exemption certificate

It took me almost 5 years but I finally got the original from nysc with my face on it.

How can she be in government position without it. This is a very big case ooo! B

so why forged d certificate?

aribisala0:


Pat Utomi came back to Nigeria from abroad and joined the government of Shagari .

He was widely celebraated at the time and he was under 30.


He did not serve just like many others

Bianca Ojukwu
Saraki
Tinubu
Okonko-Iweala
Femi Gbajamiala
Andy Uba
Dieziani Allison

U mean all the above school abroad, find themselves in a position to make things look as they are where they school and still couldn't make any impact of change in our Education system?

I just hope we aren't hopless

NoDulling4here:


I suppose the only 'evidence' of forgery is that the person who signed her discharge certificate was not working in the NYSC as at the time she was supposedly discharged.

Isn't it possible that that person bulksigned discharge certificates in advance? That is a possibility.

chai. everybody dey defend evil in dis country.

TRUTHTOPOWER:
Fact. Mrs. Adeosun graduated from The East London Polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA in 1989.

The status of the polytechnic was CHANGED to a University was IN 1992.

Note the capitalised words. "OUTSIDE NIGERIA" and "CHANGE"

QUESTION FOR DETERMINATION
Whether upon graduation from a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA, in line with section 2 (1)(c) Kemi Adeosun was required by law to participate in NYSC.

ANSWER.
Section 2 (1) (c) contains no provision or stipulation that a Polytechnic graduate outside Nigeria or a diploma holder outside Nigeria SHALL be eligible for call up to NYSC.

This is unlike UNIVERSITY GRADUATE as contained under S (1)(b)

The law is settled that inclusion of one is the exclusion of others.
Inclusio unius (est) exclusio alterius. Latin legal maxim that makes the point that where a statute, contract or other legal document includes a definitional list of items falling into a category, the inclusion of certain items on the list means that any excluded items are intentionally outside the definition. Simple Wiki definition.

Since this is a legal matter, a serious news agency ought to seek opinion of lawyers on whether Mrs Adeosun is under strict legal obligation to participate in NYSC as graduate of a polytechnic OUTSIDE NIGERIA

References
Requirement of NYSC Act

2 (1) (b)If, at the end of the academic year 1974–75 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have graduated at any university outside Nigeria; or

(C) if, at the end of the academic year 1975–76 or, as the case may be, at the end of any subsequent year, he shall have obtained the Higher National Diploma or such other professional qualification as may be prescribed;

Exemption

2 (2) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, with effect from 1 August 1985, a person shall not be called upon to serve in the service corps if, at the date of his graduation or obtaining his diploma or other professional qualification—

(a) he is over the age of thirty; or

the issue in all of this is that she forged a discharge certificate
like a lot of things it did not seem like a big deal at the time ( eg a lot of people do declaration of younger ages to get jobs) - she had just come back she needed a job - for all you know her employers could have organized it for her

however this throws all her other qualifications into doubt.
how does anyone know she did not forge her other credentials?

from the premium times article, this was already a tool used by our NASS to intimidate and blackmail her.
which means we are all paying for her problem. for all you know she has been blackmailed into giving buhari poor advice?

there are other dodgy transactions that may also be linked to this blackmail [sec ]

it is unfortunate, but she has to go .it is what it is.

pmbs team of vetters need to be hung out to dry for their incompetence

We don't care whether she has to be in NYSC or not,what we are saying is that She forged NYSC cert.Is forgery not an offense again?

Mille:


Thank you for the answer.

So what advice would you have for someone who already works for an international NGO, has not done the NYSC and wants to be transferred to Nigeria.

Called up back then, posted to Northern Nigeria and refused to go for security reasons as an outspoken atheist.

whenever You Enter Nigeria, Please Visit Nysc Office In Abuja On What To Do To Save YourSelf From Future Problems.

Did she forge something or not?

Please learn to do things one after the other, kindly focus on the current person.

aribisala0:
She is bound to perform the NYSC but like many elites who schooled abroad she just bailed.

Whether or not she forged an exxemption is another matter.

But


The following people did not do NYSC

Okonjo-Iweala
Dieziani Allison
Bola Tinubu
Ibe Kachickwu
Pat Utomi
Andy Uba

Icould go on and on

princeade86:
chai. everybody dey defend evil in dis country.

Not trying to defend evil.

I believe everyone is innocent until proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt.
We all need to be careful before jumping to conclusions.

I am just asking questions and not trying to defend anyone.
Wetin consign me..

yes she may not be legally required to participate in the scheme but how about falsification. It is CRIME, She should resign honorably but my fear is that Bubu would replace her with his Kinsman.

Where were these people before she was confirmed as a minister of federal republic of Nigeria by the Senate?

GavelSlam:


Hmmm.

Not a good picture if you asked me.

They can't be compelling the less privilege whilst bypassing the same hurdle.

bros if the forgery thing real ehn, na to show her way out. PT is even insinuating that she is so nice to the rogues in the NA because they tactically overlooked the crime in order to have her on leash. Her rebuttal or not in few days is necessary. No they can't be using different laws for us. It is high time we called their bluff.

Juliusmalema:
what a lame assertion trying to defend the garbage she obtained from East-london...


Kemi Adeosun must be investigated now and she must resign and face the full wrath of the law....
No wonder she connived with buhari and osibanjo and plunged Nigeria into recession.
.......and it even took since months to appoint this ineffectual buffoon called kemi as minister............

A minster who keeps her job on forgery........

A minster who doesn't know that 22+2 is 24.....
Her actions is unprecedented in modern day civil service and must be condemned in strong terms....
how can a low born parading a low class certificate preside over a nations finance ministry.....
No wonder all her actions bleeds ineffectiveness and Bill Gate wondered when he visited Nigeria why such a low crass educated being should be a minister...
She has forged Nigeria and Nigeria treasury up to this day...

and u have to wonder if the nations treasury is as she says or is it also forged

Adeosun should resign and go.....she represent everything fake.....
and fake must be her name onwards.....
I spit on such a shameful being.......
SACK ADEOSUN NOW....

If she must RESIGN, your Bubu must resign too. She is even more qualified than Buhari

Let's not muddle things up and assume




Both parties need to clear what really went wrong



I mean the news carrier and office of the minister



Before then, drink coke and chill




No carry Anoda person matter put for head jare.

But we were told her certificate carried the changed name meaning she was eligible for NYSC. Also, why would she forge the certificate?

bid4rich:



If she must RESIGN, your Bubu must resign too. She is even more qualified than Buhari

Buhari is a terrorist.

I see some idiots justifying her issue.of forgery. If you. Like become a thief in Nigeria, some idiots will still defend you.

Juliusmalema:
what a lame assertion trying to defend the garbage she obtained from East-london...


Kemi Adeosun must be investigated now and she must resign and face the full wrath of the law....
No wonder she connived with buhari and osibanjo and plunged Nigeria into recession.
.......and it even took since months to appoint this ineffectual buffoon called kemi as minister............

A minster who keeps her job on forgery........

A minster who doesn't know that 22+2 is 24.....
Her actions is unprecedented in modern day civil service and must be condemned in strong terms....
how can a low born parading a low class certificate preside over a nations finance ministry.....
No wonder all her actions bleeds ineffectiveness and Bill Gate wondered when he visited Nigeria why such a low crass educated being should be a minister...
She has forged Nigeria and Nigeria treasury up to this day...

and u have to wonder if the nations treasury is as she says or is it also forged

Adeosun should resign and go.....she represent everything fake.....
and fake must be her name onwards.....
I spit on such a shameful being.......
SACK ADEOSUN NOW....

it is so sarcastic of you to speak without prove of your statement. Adeosun was not in power when the then CBN governor lamented on excess spending without growing our foreing reserve which plunder us into recession. Also themadam oby ezekwesili made the acertion of recession when GEJ was in power.
Furthermore, I need to let you know the so called Bill gate you adored did not finish his studies in college, but however employed genius that work for his company.
The foreign clime did not celebrate certificate as we do here in Nigeria. What they celebrate is someone who can deliver on the job.
Conclusively, for government to work, it needs a bottom to up approach and thier needs to be a correlation between the fiscal and montary policy.
Peace out @ayosam4real