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| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:13pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
jnrbayano:OK sir, ur argument is not valid abeg. it's people like u that know the truth and choose to engage in wilful blindness. u want us to start arguing bible, I don't. sorry sorry sir |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by Jerrypolo(m): 12:13pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
ollah2:"Hate" kee you there!!!. |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by Jerrypolo(m): 12:14pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:Your post is misleading!!!. |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:16pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
aribisala0:sorry sir. it's turning into an argument, I don't engage in religious arguments unfortunately....... I like to learn not argue.( this only applies to my religion tho) |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by sexdoll: 12:17pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
jesus never existed. |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by aribisala0(m): 12:17pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:To me this obekediamondfuto:Sounds like a criticism. A very arrogant one at that. You believe Ogun is not God but whatever you worship is and your beliefs represent the "things of God" but Ogun does not. I am not sure what your question is |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by aribisala0(m): 12:20pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
sexdoll:He probably did. There is signifcant HISTORICITY on that. Whether all that is said about him is accurate is another thing |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by Nicenas50(m): 12:20pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
This is the best write up. A honest and factual analysis of the verse, on "judge not' . An acclaimed man of God, who was divorced from is wife of recent, had this same verse as cover-up. ![]() |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:21pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
aribisala0:like I said, on the contrary..... u know too much of the Bible and then again u know too much about ogun. I'm curious as to how u chose when u eventually chose, the religion to follow. that's what I meant when I said too much knowledge..... |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:25pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:these questions ... just that I'm really curious ... that's all |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by aribisala0(m): 12:29pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:When you make statements of fact that you cannot substantiate you will always get an argument. That is why religion has always resulted in bloodshed. Christianity spread across Europe simply as a means of political control and not for any spiritual purpose and that is why it is dead today across Europe. Maybe you have heard of the ouncil of Nicaea maybe you have not. The reality is religion served to facilitate political control and this is easier when you have ONE God as opposed to several. The Bible was written by men as a means of controlling people. Mohammed learned all the lessons from that including why Christianity lost political power and came up with a "better" One God religion that is even successful in achieving political and social control. You have two categories of people Believers and Kafirs who are forced b normative pressure to fall in line. In reality people subscribe to the religions they are born into and programmed with and arre never able to achieve independent thought on their so called beliefs. Take your idea that the bible was written byy inspired folk. This is a lie that is repeated over and over for books whose authorship is UNKNOWN |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by aribisala0(m): 12:32pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:They are interesting questions but not relevant to anything we are talking about and why direct that to me. It is like me asking you what is the the square root of 12556787645? how is the answer to that relevant here? |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by EbukaBlue(m): 12:35pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
purem:JC? why abbr his name?? is it too long? |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by jnrbayano(m): 12:39pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:What is truth? Lemme ask like Pilate. John 18:38 In the emboldened part of your reply to me you just accused me of complicity to "truth concealing" crime which I did not commit simply because I wanted to help a brother understand something better. I leave you with the verse below. Matthew 10:14 "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet." |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:39pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
aribisala0:my guy, Christianity.... be it a lie, I donk care. it is the lie I have chosen to believe afterall!! one thing Is certain that most of us fail to acknowledge, the only thing we do in life is to trade!! We trade one belief for another, one prison for another, one God for another, one addiction for another...... We are never truly free, nor perfect, nor just. But as for me and my household, we have chosen to trade all others to serve the Lord Jesus. if it is wrong, then I'll. gladly do wrong as regards this but to be very frank with u.... u have a very very keen understanding faculty.. |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:41pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
jnrbayano:u see ehn I no dey get JW power..... my principle is to allow them win every argument.... so sorry sir no because Sir |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by aribisala0(m): 12:41pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:I said I am devoted to Ogun. I did not talk about religion Ogun is one of many Yoruba deities. I happen to be Yoruba so Ogun is more relevant to me than Jehovah. I think the Yoruba Worldview is more relvant to me than imported ideas about a foreign god that is unknown to m people. The Yoruba worldview is not about "religion" but rather the idea that everything is alive and worthy of reverence and worship . So the idea of "one God" is unacceptable Religion is that which seeks to indoctrinate and control so my relationship with Ogun or other deities is not religious . I don't know what you mean by "too much". I have read the bible several times and I still read it regularly just like the Quran. The Bible does not = religion . There are so many religions that are based on the Bible not one. I do not know what your religion is. Buut there are Catholics,Penntecostals, Jehovah witnesses, Celestial, Brotherhood of the Cross and star to name a few. They are different. Celestial is Not RCCG and MFM is not Baptist |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by donblazer10(m): 12:43pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
aribisala0:true |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:43pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
aribisala0:read my posts again then u will see you I asked those questions |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:45pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
aribisala0:religion here is Christianity!! |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by jnrbayano(m): 12:45pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:I'm not a Jehovah Witness adherent neither am I on argument spree...its well. |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by aribisala0(m): 12:48pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:What is Christianity? There is no one Christianity that is a myth. Are we talking Celestial or RCCG or TB Joshua's SCOAN or the Catholic church or Jehovah's witnesses What makes one a Chrstian? Being born again? Childhood Baptism? |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by Fynekings: 12:50pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
[i][/i] alBHAGDADI:thanks for this correction, this has been a form of misconception between Christians. I truly believe in this interpretation more than I ever heard in my church |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:51pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
aribisala0:Christian..... Emulating Christ |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by AdeagboRA: 12:52pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
aribisala0:Am sorry Christians for posting this in your tread, I only want to reply the person... Accept my apology... This is tread is not meant for Muslim, neither is it meant for comparative argument... But I will advice you get your facts right and don't be sentimental in judgement... You may got this your research and knowledge from some where but I am telling you that this your impression of Islam is twisted and wrong... Said ibn Zaid (RA) is not the prophet's son !, he was only adopted, that is why he is not bearing the prophets name.. In Islam, it is wrong to treat another man as one's son.. The verse was revealed concerning it, what applies to other people can apply to him... Your statement that involves "unclad" is wrong ! Your knowledge of Said ibn Zaid (RA) was twisted... 2. Your claim that the Prophet steal and kidnap is twisted, this made u misconstrued it... In the days of old, taking from war booties was forbidden, it was said in the bible that fire consumes war booties and they are taken to heaven... But during the time of the prophet, Allah made war booties permissible for them... This is not stealing !! 3. Concerning Banu Qurayda... It will seem to people like you that it is massacre, this was why the Prophet himself did not pass the verdict himself.. instead, he gave this to one of is companions (called Sa'd (RA) who was in closer relation to this tribe.. In fact he is a long time friend and allie to them... 4. Islam is the religion of the alameen (all the exist), not just for Jews and Arabs... You can read the story of the black companions of the prophet (such as Bilal) to buttress this... I will advise you, whenever you are doing your research, don't be sentimental, be open minded and above all do yourself good by asking a knowledgeable Muslim... |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:53pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
sorry guys but I gat to go now |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by aribisala0(m): 12:54pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:You are free to believe what you like inside your mind. The moment you put in into the market of ideas it comes under the influece of other ideas. If someone comes and says there is a device which will allow you to speak to somoene in Ruussia from Lagos and see their face at the same time then there is only one thing left "Prove it" With God that is not happening so better not to make any assertions and to admit the truth :"This belief is how I manage uncertainty about life and the afterlife". That is fine. What i have a problem with is certainty merchants. Who speak as if they have been to heaven or who tell their followers "The Spirit is telling me this or that rght now" Those are lies and are all about control. For me it does not matter whether you worship God or your Generator as long as it makes you happy |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by obekediamondfuto(m): 12:59pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
aribisala0:lolz or ur laptop or fashion or gadgets or your car... BRO . u suppose dey teach religious studies in schools I feel like I shud stay here but I gats Waka naw |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by achorladey: 1:01pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent-- the LORD detests them both. Proverbs 17:15 WHEN YOU JUDGE, MAKE SURE YOU ARE SURE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING. |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by aribisala0(m): 1:07pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
AdeagboRA:I did not pick on Islam but responded to another Muslim. Either you are a liar or out to dstort. Did I not mention that he was adopted? So why pretend you did not see that You say in Islam it is wrong to adopt blablabla. WHEN did it become wrong? The Quran was not revealed in one day. but over 23 years in Mecaa first and then later Medina. Sura al Ahzab was revealed in Medina. For those who are unaware the significance is that Mohammed lived in Mecca before fleeing to Medina and Several Sura were revealed in Mecca till he fled beecause of persecution e.g Sura Al Baqara was a Meccan Sura So all the while he was in Mecca Sura AlAhzab had not been revealed and adoption was fine You say adoption is wrong in Islam but the prophet adopted this guy and this guy was his adopted som for some of those 23 years during which time it was not wrong until a revelation was revealed to that effect and that was fo only one reason. So Mohammed could marry the boy's wife. Mohammed went to his house,saw her naked and cried to Allah who quickly sent another Sura saying Adopted children are not your children. It is wrong for a man and a woman to have a different view once Allah and hiis messenger have decided their affair. What was this affair? That they divorce so Mohammed could take over. From that day on adoption was stopped. Even if adoption was stopped. Fact is the boy knew him as his father. Was it right for Allah to make them divorce so Mohammed could marry her? |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by aribisala0(m): 1:11pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
Did the prophet not kill and kidnap? Was he not a cattle rustler? |
| Re: Did Jesus Christ Really Say We Shouldnt Judge Other People? by aribisala0(m): 1:14pm On Jul 15, 2018 |
AdeagboRA:I have studied the Quran more than you can imagine with an open mind. The truth of the matter is that Mohammed was a very good politicaal strategist who understood the role of religion in population control. God did not reveal anything to him. That is nonsense. |
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