pazienza:


Eri gave birth to Nri.

Nteje the maternal homeland of Nnebisi is of Nri ancestry.

Ogwashiukwu is of Nri ancestry.
There are many other Nri settlements in Anioma like Ute Okpu, Igbodo (part of them), Owa ( parts of them), Obomkpa, etc.

There is Isu component in Ibusa.
Isu are the inhabitants of Northern Imo/Abia and Southern Anambra area Of Igboland.

In short, there are many Nri linked settlements in Anioma.

Please explain how Isu people are related to Eri/ Nri people because what I've been hearing even from Isu people that their origin is that of an autochthonous.

Ngozi123:


Exactly. It's simply a political construction, just like Anambra, Imo, Ebonyi etc. I don't care about these states as they were designed to facilitate the oppression and marginalization of Igbos. I really don't understand why some Igbos take pride in them.

anioma is just an acronym. We are all igbos. Just as u said itz a case of reverse migration. Some from se to there. Some from there to SE and on and on it goes.

Afam4eva:

I can understand Ogbaru being referred to as Enuani stock but Anioma on the other hand is an artificial creation which is an acronym of all the Igbo speaking parts of Delta state. Some people are beginning to make Anioma seem like an ancient civilization of some sort which is not true.

tell them. Anioma heritage. How many se ave been claiming Kins over there.

Ngozi123:


My grandmother was from Aboh and she had always been a proud Igbo woman who refused to speak anything but Igbo. These people had always viewed themselves as Igbos before the war.

Have u ever been to Aboh? Go there and see for yourself if they regard themselves as Igbo's, both old and young. Your grandmother married an Igbo man and adopted his culture, which is not a thing to be despised. You should try and visit Aboh and know about your grandmother's people. I can help you if u r really willing

clefstone:
Have u ever been to Aboh? Go there and see for yourself if they regard themselves as Igbo's, both old and young. Your grandmother married an Igbo man and adopted his culture, which is not a thing to be despised. You should try and visit Aboh and know about your grandmother's people. I can help you if u r really willing

Adopting one's culture does not mean that you will drop your language and only speak your husband's language, unless both of your languages are the same, of course. She was a proud Igbo woman before she got married and she was a proud Igbo woman after she got married. Ergo, she had always seen herself as Igbo.

ghostfacekillar:
anioma is just an acronym. We are all igbos. Just as u said itz a case of reverse migration. Some from se to there. Some from there to SE and on and on it goes.

Exactly. Igbo bu igbo so all of these divisions are unnecessary.

Ngozi123:


Exactly. Igbo bu igbo so all of these divisions are unnecessary.

nwa nnem nwanyi see am ooo. The igbos is solidly behind them for their anioma state. First of all. They should rally the deltaners and carve igbanke and other igbo group out of edo and starts talking about anioma state. If we see they are serious. We will help them

Ngozi123:


Adopting one's culture does not mean that you will drop your language and only speak your husband's language, unless both of your languages are the same, of course. She was a proud Igbo woman before she got married and she was a proud Igbo woman after she got married. Ergo, she had always seen herself as Igbo.

of course the Aboh language is an Igbo dialect and is therefore mutually intelligible with your Anambra dialect. However, a people's ethnicity transcends language sometimes, that is the case of the Abohs and surrounding people. Do you know there are Aboh Igbos, who r a minority settler group in Aboh. Visit Aboh and clear your doubts

clefstone:
of course the Aboh language is an Igbo dialect and is therefore mutually intelligible with your Anambra dialect. However, a people's ethnicity transcends language sometimes, that is the case of the Abohs and surrounding people. Do you know there are Aboh Igbos, who r a minority settler group in Aboh. Visit Aboh and clear your doubts

really. So what ethnic can we call aboh people?

ghostfacekillar:
really. So what ethnic can we call aboh people?

An Aboh man is best referred to as Aboh, or Ndo-Osimili if u want a broader grouping that would include the people of the lower banks of the Niger. We just call ourselves Aboh and nothing else

ariesbull:


The whole thing tire me...they have refused to tell us what qualifies a community in the East as Anioma...this is madness and stupidity....I have been waiting for answers but none


Anioma is acronym and no community in east was and is part of that tag

Ghostfacekillar What Is acronym In Igbo Language? You Guys Keep Coming Up With Things That Do Not Exist. Give Us A List Of Igbo Towns Formed By Acronyms In Pre Colonial Times. When Did Acronym Enter Enter Into The Lexis And Structure Of Igbo Language. Currently Except For abia State Which Is Not Up To 30 Years Show Me Another. Guy We Are Talking About Pre Colonial History Here Not grammar. In Igbo aintient Civilisation Its Not Popular To Have Villages Formed By Acronyms

clefstone:
An Aboh man is best referred to as Aboh, or Ndo-Osimili if u want a broader grouping that would include the people of the lower banks of the Niger. We just call ourselves Aboh and nothing else

kk no wahala. Ave heard u

Emycord:
Ghostfacekillar What Is acronym In Igbo Language? You Guys Keep Coming Up With Things That Do Not Exist. Give Us A List Of Igbo Towns Formed By Acronyms In Pre Colonial Times. When Did Acronym Enter Enter Into The Lexis And Structure Of Igbo Language. Currently Except For abia State Which Is Not Up To 30 Years Show Me Another. Guy We Are Talking About Pre Colonial History Here Not grammar. In Igbo aintient Civilisation Its Not Popular To Have Villages Formed By Acronyms

yes my broda.itz true.

ghostfacekillar:
yes my broda.itz true.

They Are Only Using Acronyms To hide The Igbohood And Igboness Of The Anioma People Igbo Is Igbo From Pre Colonial Times. And Yes forget InteR Tribal Angle Until Very Recent It Was Even Seen Like A Taboo To Marry Outside Your Village Or Just Nearby Villa. We Stucked To Our Igbo Women And They Stucked To Us, Thats In Aintient Times. And Even Up Till Date Other Nigerian View The Igbo As "Wayo" When It Comes To Marriage. Cos They Know After All The Love He Will Run Home To Get A Wife From His Own People. So inter Marriage Story Wont Sell. Anioma Is Igbo By Nature
Anioma Is Igbo By Culture
Anioma Is Igbo By Tradition
Anioma Is Igbo By Outlook
Anioma Is Igbo By Language
Anioma Is Igbo By Blood
Anioma Is Igbo dna
If Anyone Doubts It He Or She Should Move A Motion And Lets Sample Our dna's
Anioma Is Only Politicaly Non-Igbo
ngozi123

Emycord:
They Are Only Using Acronyms To hide The Igbohood And Igboness Of The Anioma People Igbo Is Igbo From Pre Colonial Times. And Yes forget InteR Tribal Angle Until Very Recent It Was Even Seen Like A Taboo To Marry Outside Your Village Or Just Nearby Villa. We Stucked To Our Igbo Women And They Stucked To Us, Thats In Aintient Times. And Even Up Till Date Other Nigerian View The Igbo As "Wayo" When It Comes To Marriage. Cos They Know After All The Love He Will Run Home To Get A Wife From His Own People. So inter Marriage Story Wont Sell. Anioma Is Igbo By Nature
Anioma Is Igbo By Culture
Anioma Is Igbo By Tradition
Anioma Is Igbo By Outlook
Anioma Is Igbo By Language
Anioma Is Igbo By Blood
Anioma Is Igbo dna
If Anyone Doubts It He Or She Should Move A Motion And Lets Sample Our dna's
Anioma Is Only Politicaly Non-Igbo
ngozi123

emycord u are right. It's all politics

clefstone:
of course the Aboh language is an Igbo dialect and is therefore mutually intelligible with your Anambra dialect. However, a people's ethnicity transcends language sometimes, that is the case of the Abohs and surrounding people. Do you know there are Aboh Igbos, who r a minority settler group in Aboh. Visit Aboh and clear your doubts

So from claiming that Aboh people were not considered Igbos pre-Biafran War to they only spoke the Igbo language to they have a minority Igbo settler group there. How can a minority settler group force the majority group to abandon their own language and take up a foreign one without any brute force?

Ngozi123:


So from claiming that Aboh people were not considered Igbos pre-Biafran War to they only spoke the Igbo language to they have a minority Igbo settler group there. How can a minority settler group force the majority group to abandon their own language and take up a foreign one without any brute force?

The Igbo people in Aboh are the minority and are later settlers known to have arrived from the east of the Niger. Their dialect is more like the 'mainstream Igbo' dialect. Aboh is a complex community, visit Aboh today

clefstone:
The Igbo people in Aboh are the minority and are later settlers known to have arrived from the east of the Niger. Their dialect is more like the 'mainstream Igbo' dialect. Aboh is a complex community, visit Aboh today

visit aboh visit aboh.

I dont need to visit aboh anymore than i need to visit abiriba.

Bro let me tell u the simple truth...there is no igbo people who doesnt have that complex history aboh has. We all came from different origins in igbo land. As an udi man from enugu state my origin and dialect is as different from an ngwa man's as u think aboh is from the rest of igbo.

The ONLY reason u guys from there feel u are not one with igbos is because the white men did not include u guys in eastern region. Nothing else. There is no complexity in aboh community that doesnt exist in other igbo communities.

letu:
Please explain how Isu people are related to Eri/ Nri people because what I've been hearing even from Isu people that their origin is that of an autochthonous.

Not any that I'm aware of.
Isu people can't remember where they came from.
Even worst, most groups who use to be Isu in the past, don't even know they are Isu. They can't link themselves to other Isu villages.

clefstone:
An Aboh man is best referred to as Aboh, or Ndo-Osimili if u want a broader grouping that would include the people of the lower banks of the Niger. We just call ourselves Aboh and nothing else

This is why compared to Europeans for example, Nigerians have a lot of ethnicities. A ridiculous proliferation of groups where any tiny clan with any tenuous distinction claims to be an independent tribe. It is worse of course among Igbos/Igboid groups. What I always find weird about the arguments of South South Igboid groups is their inability to grasp that their conceptions of Igbos as a monolithic group that differs from them makes no sense. When I schooled in UNN, I had this roommate in my first year from Enugu Ezike, and when a cousin of his visited him and they were speaking, their language might as well have been Icelandic or Finnish or Mandarin to my ears. I could barely comprehend anything they were saying in their hardcore dialect. There are significant cultural/linguistic differences between many Igbo clans. I could bet you that your so-called "Ndo-Osimili" clan have more in common with an Idemili man than an Idemili man has with an Ezza man in Ebonyi.

All I can say is the divide and rule antics of the North, particularly through the post-war military administrations has succeeded in the South. They are political geniuses up North to be able to advance common goals as a monolithic bloc while we fragment ourselves almost down to villages claiming to be distinct ethnicities.

Obi1kenobi:


This is why compared to Europeans for example, Nigerians have a lot of ethnicities. A ridiculous proliferation of groups where any tiny clan with any tenuous distinction claims to be an independent tribe. It is worse of course among Igbos/Igboid groups. What I always find weird about the arguments of South South Igboid groups is their inability to grasp that their conceptions of Igbos as a monolithic group that differs from them makes no sense. When I schooled in UNN, I had this roommate in my first year from Enugu Ezike, and when a cousin of his visited him and they were speaking, their language might as well have been Icelandic or Finnish or Mandarin to my ears. I could barely comprehend anything they were saying in their hardcore dialect. There are significant cultural/linguistic differences between many Igbo clans. I could bet you that your so-called "Ndo-Osimili" clan have more in common with an Idemili man than an Idemili man has with an Ezza man in Ebonyi.

All I can say is the divide and rule antics of the North, particularly through the post-war military administrations has succeeded in the South. They are political geniuses up North to be able to advance common goals as a monolithic bloc while we fragment ourselves almost down to villages claiming to be distinct ethnicities.

Thank u again bro. These guys dont know the meaning of divide and rule.

They also dont know the meaning of tribe and ethnicity. For instance the 12 tribes of isreal are all ethnic jewish.

Nigeria might claim to have 250 ethnic groups...but in actual sense its more like 20 ethnic groups and 250 clans or tribes

selemempe:
Thank u again bro. These guys dont know the meaning of divide and rule.

They also dont know the meaning of tribe and ethnicity. For instance the 12 tribes of isreal are all ethnic jewish.

Nigeria might claim to have 250 ethnic groups...but in actual sense its more like 20 ethnic groups and 250 clans or tribes

Let me ask you one thing, are the Ogoni Ijaws?

Y do u always add Ogoni into as Ethnic Ijaw in your map?

Let us not even talk about Bonny and Opobo.

hammer6F:



Let me ask you one thing, are the Ogoni Ijaws?

Y do u always add Ogoni into as Ethnic Ijaw in your map?

Let us not even talk about Bonny and Opobo.

do the ogonis and ijaws speak mostly the same language? If so then u have ur answer

clefstone:
An Aboh man is best referred to as Aboh, or Ndo-Osimili if u want a broader grouping that would include the people of the lower banks of the Niger. We just call ourselves Aboh and nothing else

U are categorise as Anioma, that is the group u fall under.

No man is an island. Aboh belong to the Anioma family.

Ndoni that you keep mentioning are geographically close to Aboh but in actual fact belong to Imo state not even Rivers.

selemempe:
do the ogonis and ijaws speak mostly the same language? If so then u have ur answer

They dont speak the same language, in fact Okirika and Ogoni clash.

https://www.nairaland.com/3644086/eleme-youths-attack-brutalise-okrika

hammer6F:


They dont speak the same language, in fact Okirika and Ogoni clash.

https://www.nairaland.com/3644086/eleme-youths-attack-brutalise-okrika

i dont knw anything about them so i wont argue...i didnt make the map also...but if by 'they dont speak the same language' u mean the same way people claim that ika and igbos dont speak the same language..then i say that ijaw and ogoni share one ethnicity

selemempe:
i dont knw anything about them so i wont argue...i didnt make the map also...but if by 'they dont speak the same language' u mean the same way people claim that ika and igbos dont speak the same language..then i say that ijaw and ogoni share one ethnicity

Ogoni is totally different from Ijaw or even Okirika their closest neighbor.

Aboh monarchy says its from Bini, not Eri or Aro.

The Obi in Ugbodu say they are from Owo.

Ika people say they anot Ibo.

What next?

clefstone:
Have u ever been to Aboh? Go there and see for yourself if they regard themselves as Igbo's, both old and young. Your grandmother married an Igbo man and adopted his culture, which is not a thing to be despised. You should try and visit Aboh and know about your grandmother's people. I can help you if u r really willing

So the Aboh of Mbaise aren't Igbo also


When would you have sense

BabaRamota1980:
Aboh monarchy says its from Bini, not Eri or Aro.

The Obi in Ugbodu say they are from Owo.

Ika people say they anot Ibo.

What next?

And they named their town aboh an Igbo name

..that kind must be a very stupid one ...just like the small boy that rules agbor

BabaRamota1980:
Aboh monarchy says its from Bini, not Eri or Aro.

The Obi in Ugbodu say they are from Owo.

Ika people say they anot Ibo.

What next?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but let’s get this right. You’re listing Igbo towns with outside influence in an Igbo discussion thread and yet you failed to tell us how much of an outside influence many Yoruba towns have too. Since you started it, maybe we should help you complete the listing.

1) Owo town - Bini
3) Lagos (Eko) - Bini
4) Ijebu - Sudan
5) Itsekiri - Bini
6) Ilorin - Fulani
7) Ife - Bini (Izeduwa or Oduduwa)
2/3 Of Ekiti - Bini
9) 2/3 Of Ondo - Bini

Hope you’ll leave the thread now.

ariesbull:


So the Aboh of Mbaise aren't Igbo also


When would you have sense

don't mind him. The worst of it all is dat they can't bring out enough proof or evidence to counter it. Don't mind him. The Aboh in mbaise migrated from heaven