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Carlz1:
Hello Good morning. I have a question, when filling the CIC forms. In the aspect of “funds available for my stay” Does it include both tuition fees, living expenses and other expenses? Or just living expenses excluding tuition fees. Please I need a little explanation

Carlz1,

Tuition = (First year tuition)
Room and Board = CAD$10,000
Others = CAD$ 3,000
The total amount for your first year tuition, room and board and others = Funds available for my stay.

Wow, a big congrats to you! Please if I may ask; when did you apply and did you do medicals upfront? Thanks

Aghatise:
God has done it! Received my passport today via Courier with the visa on it. My profile still shows background check and eligibility processing..... PhD MUN.

However, I did not receive any other letter as noted on this site except my passport (paper route) .

Altogether , God is faithful...................

jnyuwa02:
I think everyone worries and rightfully so, including the first class students here with full scholarship, because there is no one size fits all solutions that guarantees a visa approval. Last fall, a fully funded first class student walked sadly away from a 20k a year masters scholarship because a VO denied him visa based on home ties.

I don’t think they are trying to get the cream of the crop to their country, but the most credible who will strictly adhere to their purpose of visit. The law’s requirement they are trying to interpret and enforce when it comes to a student permit, is one of non-immigrant, not immigrant. The process of attracting the cream of the crop is within the purview and direction of the skilled workers entry program.

About the VOs been professionals, yes they are, but humans as well, therefore subjected to human limitations. That means some of their decisions will miss target. That is why some of their decisions are reversed by Canadian high courts on judicial review. It will help not to paint a VO and their decisions as beyond reproach or infallible. Not every VO takes their time to read an application carefully. Some may wake up on the wrong side of the bed. Some faced with limited time have been known to just skim through people’s SOP and therefore miss an important explanation, therefore rendering a flippant decision. That is why we advice here on this forum that you do your best and hope and pray that your best is good enough. Nothing guarantees a visa, not a first class, not a full scholarship. That well written SOP might come off as implausible to a VO. That heart poured out SOP might sometimes be misconstrued by a VO as a sign of desperation. They are only humans. That is why I advice people when writing SOP to stay off from emotions and sentiments, stay neutral and communicate effectively and factually.

Yes, the VOs see themselves as gatekeepers and enjoy considerable discretion under the law to do and undo. They can use whatever means they deem feasible to reach a decision, including using your low academic performance against you even when the school has offered admission. The gist is not usually whether you have conned the school into given you an admission. They certainly mean no disrespect to the school on its intelligence. It is only based on the realization that as gatekeepers, they must admit only the best who will serve out their purpose of visit. And nobody is better by training in enforcing that gate keeping provision than a VO. A low performance in Nigeria often leads to the belief among the VOs that if you cannot succeeed well in such a low standard atmosphere of learning as Nigeria, you might have troubles doing well in Canada, therefore likely not to serve out your purpose of visit. So they deny you visa based on your performance even when the school gave you admission. It’s a fine separation of power and respect that goes on between the school and the High Commission with each not stepping on each other’s toes. The school certainly understands this when it happens and does not take it personal.

Finally, yes, the VOs don’t make their decisions in the vacuum. There is a pattern we can infer to on how they make their decisions to be able to make our applications better. I guess that is why we are all here sharing information and ideas. Good luck to everyone.

I agree on this. The bolded words are practically true.

hurricanesgrace:
Good evening everybody,
Gurus in the hous, I want to ask. Is it true that when you get denied TRV 3 times you get ban from applying for one year.

hurricanesgrace,

It's a false information. You're free to reapply as much as you can. There are no limited number of times you're expected to fill in an application. Endeavour to be sure that you're doing the right thing before reapplication i.e by addressing the concerns of the visa officer.

All the best!

Ogedadiva:
Please, my gurus, how do one link paper application online and when is it appropriate to do so? Thanks for your response in advance...

Ogedadiva,

You can link your application online once you've successfully submitted your TRV application. Follow the guidelines in the attached link to do so.
LINK YOUR APPLICATION ONLINE

All the best

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Aghatise:
May 18

Please would you share your profile with us?

Thanks Frank! I truly appreciate your response. I will quickly do that.

Frankrobbn1:
Ogedadiva,

You can link your application online once you've successfully submitted your TRV application. Follow the guidelines in the attached link to do so.
LINK YOUR APPLICATION ONLINE

All the best

Aghatise:
God has done it! Received my passport today via Courier with the visa on it. My profile still shows background check and eligibility processing..... PhD MUN.

However, I did not receive any other letter as noted on this site except my passport (paper route) .

Altogether , God is faithful...................

Congrats bro

kpizzle:
Thanks @COPR and@jnyuwa02 and every other gurus in the house. Your views on the issue on SOP have prompted me to share my thoughts openly. I have been following this topic since March/April and I have seen many approval and refusal (including mine) and this has shape my view about the whole process.

There is this general believe that we cannot second guess the VO and they take their decisions based on impulse. I am not sure about this assumption, the VOs are professionals and they cannot be playing "Russia roulette" or throwing dices to take their decisions. As someone with several years of working experience in a professional environment, there will sure be standard operational procedure or guideline they follow when taking their decisions.

Students that finished with first class and are given full or partial scholarship are almost 90% or more to granted visa. This is no brainer because the VO wants to filter out the talents from other countries and support Canada to get the cream de la cream of the brains around the world. I have seen such people unnecessarily panicking on this forum and giving themselves unwarranted high blood pressure.

Also, people with “good” sponsor in term of cash only need to show proper ties to the sponsor via their relationship. The VO clearly needs to be comfortable that when one get into their country they will not become nuisance and start hustling on the street of Canada. They need to be sure someone will not get struck and desperate in their country. Instead it is more like a FDI (foreign direct investment) into their country.

This issue of family ties is the most confessing for me and this is my own thinking about it. The VO definitely knows that if someone is married with or without children, the person will want to bring their spouse and children to Canada too and it is could serve as a means of relocating. Landed properties belonging to the applicant can be sold at any time and cannot be a stumbling block to relocate. For me, I think home ties are favorable if ones family/spouse or the applicant has a company to return to or some establishment has guaranteed a job offer or the Dad or Mom has properties willed or transfers to the applicant.

As for me, part of the reason I was refused was based on poor academic record which was weird. Although I had a 2’1 but I was able to get admission into a top school, University of Waterloo. My argument was that “wetin concern VO with academic qualification, no be the school suppose check that one” but hey, we need to understand the Mordi of operadi of the VOs. They see themselves as a gate to Canada and they have to make sure they get the best into their country. They logical analyses all scenarios to decide on the visa via their “checklist”. They have seen all sort of people from those that get to Canada and don’t even attend school to those that could not cope with the rigor of academic and also those that decided to ship all their families into Canada immediately. They are just trying to protect their country from being “invaded” by someone who was able to “con” their schools to get admission.

I want to conclude with this note that we cannot continue with the narrative that we don’t know how the VO takes their decision. From all the shared approval and refusal we can have a better idea of what is going on. For those of my brothers and sisters who are in my shoes, maybe you are self-sponsored or has a weak sponsor and maybe you don’t have a first class with no offer of scholarship and maybe one is going for PGD, please don’t just give up. Keep fighting on, pour you heart into those SOP/LOE and pray that the God lord will Favour you.

This is deep, really deep!

Very well thought, boss.

I also observed the same thing.

jnyuwa02:
I think everyone worries and rightfully so, including the first class students here with full scholarship, because there is no one size fits all solutions that guarantees a visa approval. Last fall, a fully funded first class student walked sadly away from a 20k a year masters scholarship because a VO denied him visa based on home ties.

I don’t think they are trying to get the cream of the crop to their country, but the most credible who will strictly adhere to their purpose of visit. The law’s requirement they are trying to interpret and enforce when it comes to a student permit, is one of non-immigrant, not immigrant. The process of attracting the cream of the crop is within the purview and direction of the skilled workers entry program.

About the VOs been professionals, yes they are, but humans as well, therefore subjected to human limitations. That means some of their decisions will miss target. That is why some of their decisions are reversed by Canadian high courts on judicial review. It will help not to paint a VO and their decisions as beyond reproach or infallible. Not every VO takes their time to read an application carefully. Some may wake up on the wrong side of the bed. Some faced with limited time have been known to just skim through people’s SOP and therefore miss an important explanation, therefore rendering a flippant decision. That is why we advice here on this forum that you do your best and hope and pray that your best is good enough. Nothing guarantees a visa, not a first class, not a full scholarship. That well written SOP might come off as implausible to a VO. That heart poured out SOP might sometimes be misconstrued by a VO as a sign of desperation. They are only humans. That is why I advice people when writing SOP to stay off from emotions and sentiments, stay neutral and communicate effectively and factually.

Yes, the VOs see themselves as gatekeepers and enjoy considerable discretion under the law to do and undo. They can use whatever means they deem feasible to reach a decision, including using your low academic performance against you even when the school has offered admission. The gist is not usually whether you have conned the school into given you an admission. They certainly mean no disrespect to the school on its intelligence. It is only based on the realization that as gatekeepers, they must admit only the best who will serve out their purpose of visit. And nobody is better by training in enforcing that gate keeping provision than a VO. A low performance in Nigeria often leads to the belief among the VOs that if you cannot succeeed well in such a low standard atmosphere of learning as Nigeria, you might have troubles doing well in Canada, therefore likely not to serve out your purpose of visit. So they deny you visa based on your performance even when the school gave you admission. It’s a fine separation of power and respect that goes on between the school and the High Commission with each not stepping on each other’s toes. The school certainly understands this when it happens and does not take it personal.

Finally, yes, the VOs don’t make their decisions in the vacuum. There is a pattern we can infer to on how they make their decisions to be able to make our applications better. I guess that is why we are all here sharing information and ideas. Good luck to everyone.

Very Insightful!

Guys,

I noticed that the applications made for Canadian student visa are done either through paper-route or online submission.

Does it mean one-on-one interview with a visa officer doesnt apply, just like it is done in the US student visa process?

Please clarify me

odimbannamdi:
Guys,

I noticed that the applications made for Canadian student visa are done either through paper-route or online submission.

Does it mean one-on-one interview with a visa officer doesnt apply, just like it is done in the US student visa process?

Please clarify me

Bolded is the answer.

Aghatise:
God has done it! Received my passport today via Courier with the visa on it. My profile still shows background check and eligibility processing..... PhD MUN.

However, I did not receive any other letter as noted on this site except my passport (paper route) .

Altogether , God is faithful...................

Congratulations bro. Don't mind them, let them still be checking your background after giving you TRV (LOL!). They will soon update your profile and you will see your letter. Best of luck

odimbannamdi:
Guys,

I noticed that the applications made for Canadian student visa are done either through paper-route or online submission.

Does it mean one-on-one interview with a visa officer doesnt apply, just like it is done in the US student visa process?

Please clarify me

Interviews are organised in some RARE cases. The normal process doesn't include interview but they have every right to call an applicant for one of they have reasons to, but like I said earlier it is very very rare

Congrats

Aghatise:
God has done it! Received my passport today via Courier with the visa on it. My profile still shows background check and eligibility processing..... PhD MUN.

However, I did not receive any other letter as noted on this site except my passport (paper route) .

Altogether , God is faithful...................

I hail each and every guru in here. I'm new and have been trying to apply for PGC Construction Project Management in Fanshawe College for Jan 2019 intake. Age 29, HND Civil Engineering, graduated 2014, NYSC was 2015.

I keep getting referred to apply through agent . Pls those who have successfully applied to Fanshawe, how did you go about it? I just hope it's not too late.

Phocusjosh Pls check your email I have sent it

rLady(f): 2:21pm

Hello house, I have a BSc in biochemistry and intend going for masters in public health in Canada at University of Manitoba or Simon Fraser University, but when i checked the requirements for doing MPH in Manitoba, they indicated that I have to have a minimum of 3 years paid work experience in public health field and I don't have any, just a fresh graduate currently working as a sales representative . Am I eligible to continue processing my application? Or better still I should look for another school.? wat other universities in Canada can I also apply to for an mph degree? Your advise would be highly appreciated, Thank You!

Tunajma:
I hail each and every guru in here. I'm new and have been trying to apply for PGC Construction Project Management in Fanshawe College for Jan 2019 intake. Age 29, HND Civil Engineering, graduated 2014, NYSC was 2015.

I keep getting referred to apply through agent . Pls those who have successfully applied to Fanshawe, how did you go about it? I just hope it's not too late.

To the best of my knowledge, you cannot apply for admission at Fanshawe college without using any of their Nigerian agents. I would be resuming in September at the college and the school gave me a list of all the agents that works for them, please contact them to give you the lis ( I have the list but it may be against the rules here to post it).

All the agency will do is to get admission for you and you will apply for visa YOURSELF (Do not pay agent to help you with your visa process. All the information you need is here on Nairaland). That’s what i did.

Finally, Fanshawe college has one of the fastest admission process (infact you will get admission within 5 days). For January admission, you are even too early but it is better you get the admission NOW so you can take your time to process your visa which could take about 3 months.

God be with you bro and I hope to see you in Canada.

ngunaniveren:
Hello guru's in the house, I applied for study visa on 22 June via paper route and later linked my account online. I received an email today stating that I have an update. I checked my account and the message was that "you do not meet the eligibility requirement", my application has been rejected without them being specific.
My question is:
Will CIC give me a specific reason for the rejection in the near future?
My program is starting on 5th sept. 2018 at the University of Victoria. I have registered for courses orientation. What do I do?

Hello gurus in the house,
I received my passport and the reasons for the denial of study visa today.

Reason are based on the following:
1. Family ties in Canada and country of residence.
2. Purpose of visit
3. Personal assets and financial status

My questions are these:
1. I am single, without a child in Nigeria and don't know any one in Canada. How do I address the concern of family ties?
2. My sponsor is not a relation who lives abroad and despite sending a letter of sponsorship and prove of finances abroad (i.e Bank statements, tax clearance, and pay slips), it is not enough. How do I address personal assets and financial status issue?
3. I included my admission letter during visa application, though no fees was paid because it was not required by the school at the time of application. How do I address the issue of purpose of visit?

Please, I need your assistance.
Thank you for your time and consideration.

You are always on point my brother. keep it up. You comment with good insight and fact. Am thinking to start calling you Mazi2 of Nairaland dont worry @Mazuide will grant the permission

kpizzle:
It is looking like we are turning "the exceptions" to norm here. If something is true for 90-95% of the time then it is better to look at it not the 5%. We are dwelling on the 5% quite a lot. Like we all have agreed, there is some basic requirement that does not require any extra explanation and it works most of the time not because a "bullet-proofed" SOP is added to the application.

The VOs can't be perfect and we all know that. There can be slips here and there but overall they definitely try to be consistent. I have gone through the required document (imm5483e) for student permit and SOP/LOE is not part of it and a VO can refuse to consider it or read it.

from On-line search, Lawyers don't advise anyone to take CIC to court because they know it is a long and turbulent process. CIC also have their legal team and if you read all the agreement we have been signing when we apply then you will know they are fortifying themselves too.

Being the "creame of the crop" includes one's ability to be law abiding. They are also concern that some sicko can wake up go to a mall and start shooting or some dude can just get to canada and start producing babies knowing the welfare will take care of them. I mean just as our schools say both in academics and character.

Baba Justwise I hail you sir.

Good day pals... Please before submitting my application documents at the VFS office. The attendant that verified my documents said i must record 10 years work history even though i told him that i only have 4 years work experience as evidenced on my submitted offer letter. i had to edit and reprint my application form. Hope this won't be an issue when the VO finds out that my actual work experience is 4yrs but stated 10yrs on my application form. Has anyone experienced similar case cos i am worried about this?

Please is it necessary I book an appointment for paper enroute submission

ngunaniveren:
Hello gurus in the house,
I received my passport and the reasons for the denial of study visa today.

Reason are based on the following:
1. Family ties in Canada and country of residence.
2. Purpose of visit
3. Personal assets and financial status

My questions are these:
1. I am single, without a child in Nigeria and don't know any one in Canada. How do I address the concern of family ties?
2. My sponsor is not a relation who lives abroad and despite sending a letter of sponsorship and prove of finances abroad (i.e Bank statements, tax clearance, and pay slips), it is not enough. How do I address personal assets and financial status issue?
3. I included my admission letter during visa application, though no fees was paid because it was not required by the school at the time of application. How do I address the issue of purpose of visit?

Please, I need your assistance.
Thank you for your time and consideration.

Did the reasons for denial come with the passport.Mean how did you finally get the reasons.

VISA Delivered today. Processed in Nairobi, Kenya.

Applied on May 8th 2018, Medical request on June 8th, Medical done on 14th if June and passed on 25th of June.

DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED

ACADEMICS
Admission Letter: MSc Computer Science, University of Saskatchewan
University Certificate: Universe of Lagos (First Class)
Curriculum Vitae
Transcript
WAEC Result
Copies of all scholarships and awards received during undergraduate.

PROOF OF FUNDS
Scholarship Offer Letter from University of Saskatchewan (20,000CAD)
About #78,000 in my NYSC Account
Uncle's letter of Support (Pledged an additional 2M for flight and other miscellaneous and sent 1M to my account as a show of his commitment)
Uncle's Salary Account.
Uncle's Letter if Introduction from his company (He's the CEO)
My GTB Account statement indicating the 1M from my uncle

HOME TIES.
My birth certificate
My younger sister's birth certificate

OTHER DOCUMENTS
All CIC Documents
Police Report Certificate
SOP

Special thanks to Ademco, PhocusJosh, jnyuwa and every other persons that contributed to this story one way or the other.

For all TRV hopefuls, your testimony is coming soon by the grace of God


ABOVE ALL, GOD'S FAVOUR.
AlhamduliLlah.

it's not too late, their admission na small thing,

Tunajma:
I hail each and every guru in here. I'm new and have been trying to apply for PGC Construction Project Management in Fanshawe College for Jan 2019 intake. Age 29, HND Civil Engineering, graduated 2014, NYSC was 2015.

I keep getting referred to apply through agent . Pls those who have successfully applied to Fanshawe, how did you go about it? I just hope it's not too late.

This could also help others too. Whenever you are ask to put 10years work experience, It actually calculated like this. E.g @Joe10 has 4years work experience + NYSC (1year)+ BSc degree (4 or 5years), when you sum everything up you will discover you have covered the 10 years work experience and again the work experience is trying to know what exactly you have been doing for the past 10 years be it schooling, working, volunteering e.t.c. So @Joe10 what did you put in addition to your 4years work experience?

joe10:
Good day pals... Please before submitting my application documents at the VFS office. The attendant that verified my documents said i must record 10 years work history even though i told him that i only have 4 years work experience as evidenced on my submitted offer letter. i had to edit and reprint my application form. Hope this won't be an issue when the VO finds out that my actual work experience is 4yrs but stated 10yrs on my application form. Has anyone experienced similar case cos i am worried about this?