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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by vaxx: 12:15pm On Jul 29, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Mmmmmm incredible, educational and deep as usual sir. Thank you for taking from your precious time to share. Tintingz should accept your kind advice when you said, "
Educate yourself on non observational evidence .GOD evidence is non observation."

I may be wrong, but it seems that Tintingz seems unaware that he was going off point while at the same time failing to refocus his mind on how the laws of logic is applied when examining non-observable evidence. Would you agree that there are four atheists here, Tintingz, Johnydon, Hopefullandlord that are on the brink of breaking out of the vicious materialistic Matrix if they can sincerely take your kindly advice to "Educate yourself on non observational evidence ."

Have a blessed Sunday.

thanks bro and you too

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by winner01(m): 12:18pm On Jul 29, 2018
budaatum:

There, finally, a flash of intelligence from you winner01! Thank you for taking the time to comprehend my "crap". You have restored my faith in you.

Now, just for the sake of it, assume I am convinced that indeed, there is God, and that I become a Christian. As I said in that post, I too would probably go about screaming at every opportunity I have that my "God is a Great Big God". However, haven been an atheist myself, I don't expect that other's would take my word for it. After all, it took a personal encounter with God for me to 'know' there is God, so why should those others not have the same privilege that I had so they too could be convinced and know too? And I do expect to be mocked and ridiculed for my conversion, as you said I would. In fact, to be honest, my new bone to pick with God would be to ask why it hadn't bothered to encounter those other atheists so they too can know as I now do. And the only way I would shut the fuq up is if God were to tell me that there is something I did that made it bother to encounter me but which others have not done that makes it not bother to encounter with them. And if that were the case, would it not be more appropriate for me to tell those atheists to do what I did so they too could have the same encounter that I had with God, if they cared to, that is?

I have continually agreed with you that anything that I say to what would now be my previous fellow atheists would be "rationalized or mocked" and called "crap" by them. But in my new state of being converted, if to the God of Christianity which is through Christ, then explain why I should be that bothered when my newly acquired God was, in the flesh, mocked, ridiculed, told he had a demon in him, spat on, made to wear a crown of thorns, stabbed, crucified, buried and descended into hell? Why should I be bothered when John, Peter, Simon, Paul and very many others before me all went through much more than whatever ridicule I could possibly go through at the hand of atheists who the best they could do is claim the Almighty God that I now confess is a figment of the imagination that I have cooked up in my mind? Would anything they come up with make me doubt the evidence that I experienced? Would anything they say stop God existing as far as I am concerned? Why, please tell, should I insult myself and more importantly, my God, by making out their opinion matters one single iota as if by them claiming my God, which I personally had an encounter with, does not exist, they actually make my God disappear, or even more stupidity thinking my God only exists because I say so?

I suggest to you that the only reason I would behave the way some so called Christians on here do is because they have not had the sort of convincing encounter that I describe above as that which would convince me. They show this lack of encounter in their use of the simple phrase they use to describe what they have in their God. I assure you that after the encounter described above, it would be rather remise of me to claim that "I believe in God", when I actually "know my God". I after all would never claim that I believe that my mother is my mother unless I was not certainly sure that she is.

And then consider the benefit of my knowing that my God exists. I'm blessedly assured of never dying, and going to heaven, and would live everlastingly (and yes, as ridiculous as they may sound, that's my new knowledge!), and those poor damned atheists are fools who will die and go to hell! Hopefully, I will be mindful of the sin of hubris, remembering that 'only for the grace of God go I', and not go about condemning the damned in a "thank you Lord that I am not like those tax collecting atheists over there" kind of way as some tend to do. My attitude towards their mockery and ridicule should be to joyfully turn the other cheek for I'm certain I would have read somewhere that I am rewarded the more I live in my new found Christ and Messiah and I'm persecuted and slapped for so doing.

I tell you the truth, if indeed I love my neighbour, as I am asked to do by my new found God, I will spend a considerable amount of my time begging my new found God to please show those atheists like it showed me that it exists, or forgive them for they don't know what I am privileged to know. What I wouldn't do is what some on here do which in my opinion just goes to show that they have got no clue whatsoever about the God they claim they believe exists. If anything, their attitude just shows their god actually doesn't exist, and shouldn't exist!

My whole point rests on the fact that it is not for me to prove to anyone that my God exists by just telling them it does. My new found God would have clearly explained to me that if I be like salt and a mustard seed, and those whom Luke describes as blessed, my light will shine, and those who see it would ask me where it is that I lay my head. And when I point to my God as the source of my new found faith, they would not mock and ridicule my godliness but behave like those who find a good thing and bow down and worship it (and hopefully not me, which I better be mindful of knowing what people are like!). But if my new found God compels me to behave like say Sciencewatch, for instance, I should expect people to run away from me and that sort of god, which they ought to do, atheist or not, for if anything, a god that compels one to be like him is really no god at all, but the devil, which, if one can, should be told to "get behind one, satan!"

Again, thanks for taking the time with my "crap". As I said, you are able!
1. The best way a Christian can preach to you is through his lifestyle not by arguments or forceful convictions.
2. Christians are to put on a humble attitude anytime they engage in these discussions
3. It's natural for Christians to feel insulted when atheists mock them. Atheists do not necessarily mock Christians only when they are being preached to. This is a religion section for instance, one will wonder why there are many atheists here.
4. When some Christians choose to give you the dose of your medicine, I noticed that atheists get overtly aggressive.
5. It's better both sides remain humble and hear themselves out. Only then can truth prevail.

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by winner01(m): 12:21pm On Jul 29, 2018
Seun:
From the title of this thread, it looks as if Winner01 is conceding that his God doesn't have the ability to use evidence and reason to convince every atheist in the world that he actually exists. Apparently his God isn't clever enough to persuade rational skeptics. If Charles Darwin, a mere man, could convince the vast majority of skeptics that they are apes, why can't winner01's God convince them that He exists? It's not hard.
Smh. You too didn't read the thread to understand.

And its funny you still think God owes you anything. It's understandable.

So what would be your own answer to johnydons question?

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by winner01(m): 12:22pm On Jul 29, 2018
PrecisionFx:



I don't think Christianity has ever been majority in Israel? Judaism is, and only a small percentage seem to be Christians.



This shows Christianity is not an Israeli / Hebrew religion...grin.
What do you think Christians mean by Christianity?
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by winner01(m): 12:24pm On Jul 29, 2018
hopefulLandlord:


))"Let the weak say I am strong"

Some even added "Let the poor say I am rich" grin
The weak should not be encouraged? Or your bigoted minds don't realize the vast majority of people live on hope and encouragements?
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by winner01(m): 12:29pm On Jul 29, 2018
darkchild64:


This is the point I have been trying to make,what serves as evidence to one person my seem foolish to the other so the only way to get around it is for "God" to reveal himself to everyone if that happens,no one needs to assume anything or convince anyone rather everyone will be saying the same thing,unless that happens you would always have atheists,agnostics and different faiths and even different denominations and tenets within the same fairh
But you do realize you're also trying to convince me to believe your point with this post?

Your last sentence might not be wrong, only that atheism will always remain a minority worldview, just like its been throughout human history.
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by winner01(m): 12:34pm On Jul 29, 2018
Seun:
Can’t we deal with the actual topic?
But you also didn't deal with the actual post when we go into details undecided

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by winner01(m): 12:38pm On Jul 29, 2018
festwiz:
To be honest, this thread achieves nothing.

#peace
Lol. I disagree grin
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Nobody: 12:43pm On Jul 29, 2018
winner01:
What do you think Christians mean by Christianity?

The word Christian is a word created by the Roman empire who created the religion Christianity.

Christians today (which are mostly gullible people) try to sell the rhetoric that the word Christianity came into being after the death of Jesus Christ wen Israelites addressed to followers of Jesus as people living a "christ-like" life. But that is heavy falsehood, The Israelites never accepted Jesus as a saviour from the day he was born till the day he died n till he ascended to heaven.....He was no God to them an he was no Christ to them so there's no way the same israelites that never accepted Jesus as Christ or God to start addressing Jesus's followers as Christ like.
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Nobody: 12:45pm On Jul 29, 2018
winner01:
Lol. I disagree grin
So what gas this topic achieved?
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by hopefulLandlord: 12:49pm On Jul 29, 2018
winner01:
The weak should not be encouraged? Or your bigoted minds don't realize the vast majority of people live on hope and encouragements?

encouraged by telling them to lie about their condition? okay
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 1:16pm On Jul 29, 2018
winner01:

1. The best way a Christian can preach to you is through his lifestyle not by arguments or forceful convictions.
2. Christians are to put on a humble attitude anytime they engage in these discussions
3. It's natural for Christians to feel insulted when atheists mock them. Atheists do not necessarily mock Christians only when they are being preached to. This is a religion section for instance, one will wonder why there are many atheists here.
4. When some Christians choose to give you the dose of your medicine, I noticed that atheists get overtly aggressive.
5. It's better both sides remain humble and hear themselves out. Only then can truth prevail.
Yes, Yes! What a way to start my afternoon on Nairaland after I just spent 4hrs examining the live testimonies of a global audience on the mind-blowing instantaneous and dynamic changes Jesus effectively done in their lives.

After 4hrs of continual testimonies of the miraculous transcendental/spiritual reality loaded with material evidence, witnesses and scientific medical reports to confirm the before and after. Now they all explode with joy as thousands gather in praise and worship. The atmosphere is so electric that I experienced it through my TV screen.

Their logic defying testimonies were from people of different race, culture, status, religions, etc. Kings, presidents, infuencial business men and women, down to beggars grace the Arena Of Liberty as one. Vaxx was teaching Tintingz about more advanced logic needed to correctly examine None observational evidence

Only Jesus can do this, no other deity know to mankind can. There certainly are other deities but when one respectfully compares what they have to offer humanity, it will be like comparing an entry level Uno with a Mercedes Benz. Both can take you somewhere. What more can I say.

WinnerO1 have a great Sunday. May the Holy Spirit continually empower and protect you and your family.

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 1:59pm On Jul 29, 2018
winner01:
The weak should not be encouraged? Or your bigoted minds don't realize the vast majority of people live on hope and encouragements?
I respect that you wisely don't want to exhaust yourself explaining the deep meanings of the Messiah's teachings here because you correctly never set out to convince or prove.
Allow me to add that the scriptures Hopeful landlord failed to understand, is much much more than encouragement and hope. Yes it is such on only a low materialistic logical level which few atheist can understand.That is why those scriptures are mocked.

Millions of people are now experiencing conclusive, verifiable evidence that those two scriptures produce logic defying practical results to confirm the absolute truth of everything Jesus said.
LET THE POOR SAY I AM RICH.
LET THE WEAK SAY I AM STRONG.

Christian, say it without shame now. Every word that Jesus says must happen if you say it from your heart.

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 2:17pm On Jul 29, 2018
PrecisionFx:


The word Christian is a word created by the Roman empire who created the religion Christianity.

Christians today (which are mostly gullible people) try to sell the rhetoric that the word Christianity came into being after the death of Jesus Christ wen Israelites addressed to followers of Jesus as people living a "christ-like" life. But that is heavy falsehood, The Israelites never accepted Jesus as a saviour from the day he was born till the day he died n till he ascended to heaven.....He was no God to them an he was no Christ to them so there's no way the same israelites that never accepted Jesus as Christ or God to start addressing Jesus's followers as Christ like.

Will you feel foolish after you do an honest examination of how thousands of Jews and their Rabbi's testify in public about how they were deceived for so long by
the Pharisees ?
Now they finally believe that the pillar they rejected was indeed the most important. Jesus is their Messiah.
What is happening among Israel's top clergy will shock your biased mind. Serious work is underway to bring their beliefs inline with superior truths.

Let me add another shocker for you as a bonus. There are also growing numbers of Muslims and Imams that are not afraid to die for the superior truth and evidence they found after examining only one Holy Gospel. Now they praise and sing wonderful worship songs with joy overflowing.

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by tintingz(m): 2:20pm On Jul 29, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Yes, Yes! What a way to start my afternoon on Nairaland after I just spent 4hrs examining the live testimonies of a global audience on the mind-blowing instantaneous and dynamic changes Jesus effectively done in their lives.

After 4hrs of continual testimonies of the miraculous transcendental/spiritual reality loaded with material evidence, witnesses and scientific medical reports to confirm the before and after. Now they all explode with joy as thousands gather in praise and worship. The atmosphere is so electric that I experienced it through my TV screen.

Their logic defying testimonies were from people of different race, culture, status, religions, etc. Kings, presidents, infuencial business men and women, down to beggars grace the Arena Of Liberty as one. [s]Vaxx was teaching Tintingz about more advanced logic needed to correctly examine None observational evidence[/s]

Only Jesus can do this, no other deity know to mankind can. There certainly are other deities but when one respectfully compares what they have to offer humanity, it will be like comparing an entry level Uno with a Mercedes Benz. Both can take you somewhere. What more can I say.

WinnerO1 have a great Sunday. May the Holy Spirit continually empower and protect you and your family.
LMAO! grin

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by tintingz(m): 2:23pm On Jul 29, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Mmmmmm incredible, educational and deep as usual sir. Thank you for taking from your precious time to share. Tintingz should accept your kind advice when you said, "
Educate yourself on non observational evidence .GOD evidence is non observation."

I may be wrong, but it seems that Tintingz seems unaware that he was going off point while at the same time failing to refocus his mind on how the laws of logic is applied when examining non-observable evidence. Would you agree that there are four atheists here, Tintingz, Johnydon, Hopefullandlord that are on the brink of breaking out of the vicious materialistic Matrix if they can sincerely take your kindly advice to "Educate yourself on non observational evidence ."

Have a blessed Sunday.

You're a clown! grin

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 2:36pm On Jul 29, 2018
tintingz:
You're a clown! grin
Good, you could have simply scratched your name off the list of intelligent atheists that is moving on.

You have revealed your deepest fears by your own mocking response Tintingz. The highly esteemed Vaxx laboured to guide you, Butterflyle0 pointed you to the light, WinnerO1 picked you up and lifted you out of harms way, but the demonic forces controlling you is stronger than your intellect and willpower.

My advice- Stay where you are.

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 2:39pm On Jul 29, 2018
tintingz:
LMAO! grin
No prob. Go enjoy your Uno while your faceless friends are moving on to greater heights.

The title of WinnerO1's topic really apply to you. It is a perfect match.
Enjoy your day.

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by tintingz(m): 2:43pm On Jul 29, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Good, you could have simply scratched your name off the list of intelligent atheists that is moving on.

You have revealed your deepest fears by your own mocking response Tintingz. The highly esteemed Vaxx laboured to guide you, Butterflyle0 pointed you to the light, WinnerO1 picked you up and lifted you out of harms way, but the demonic forces controlling you is stronger than your intellect and willpower.

My advice- Stay where you are.
LMAO!
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by tintingz(m): 2:45pm On Jul 29, 2018
ScienceWatch:
No prob. Go enjoy your Uno while your faceless friends are moving on to greater heights.

The title of WinnerO1's topic really apply to you. It is a perfect match.
Enjoy your day.
You're really funny to begin with, you sound like those sissy cheer leaders.

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 2:52pm On Jul 29, 2018
tintingz:
You're really funny to begin with, you sound like those sissy cheer leaders.
If you should ever meet me face to face, you will without duress sing a different song. As.shole
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Nobody: 2:57pm On Jul 29, 2018
winner01:
But you do realize you're also trying to convince me to believe your point with this post?

Your last sentence might not be wrong, only that atheism will always remain a minority worldview, just like its been throughout human history.

That is not my business,whether the whole world believes in god I don't care,you know its very funny u are trying to use that against me,you very well know that Christianity makes up less that half of the world population that means that majority of people on earth do not recognize Yahweh as the true god so trying to comfort yourself by playing my enemy's enemy is my friend would not work in this case because even christians do not agree amongst themselves on very sensitive issues including Jesus divinity.
I can only speak for myself,the evidence that would make me believe in god is if I have a clear revelation of who he is(assuming he exists) and he makes it clear what he wants from me,if that happens and I refuse to acknowledge and worship him then that is when I can properly be called a fool,look there are a lot of challenges we as atheists pass through in life,you think we don't want to close our eyes and say a few words and everything becones fine,look I don't know the prejudice you have against atheists but for me I have no problems with christians or religious people at all all I demand is you give me the same respect I accord to you,I am a full grown human I know what I want in life,you don't love me more than I love myself,I was a raises as a christian and at a point in my life was a vibrant one whether u wish to believe it or not is not my business,I stopped believing in god because what I saw in the Bible didn't correspond to what I experienced maybe its different for you fine,be a Christian I'm not trying to convert you its life live it the way you want,but for me I can only believe in god if I get a clear revelation about him,no I would like u to show me how illogical my reason or demand is

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by tintingz(m): 2:58pm On Jul 29, 2018
ScienceWatch:
If you should ever meet me face to face, you will without duress sing a different song. As.shole
Sissy cheer leader. grin

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 2:59pm On Jul 29, 2018
tintingz:
You're a clown! grin
How dare you insult Vaxx's intelligence when you are not even fit to serve him. He would never employ someone with your mind set.
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jul 29, 2018
ScienceWatch:
If you should ever meet me face to face, you will without duress sing a different song. As.shole
Common dude it doesn't make sense for a Christian to be calling a person an "As.shole" on a Sunday,and later be preaching about going to hell
I pity you sometimes, I can't imagine what your fellow chrsitains think of u

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 3:15pm On Jul 29, 2018
darkchild64:


That is not my business,whether the whole world believes in god I don't care,you know its very funny u are trying to use that against me,you very well know that Christianity makes up less that half of the world population that means that majority of people on earth do not recognize Yahweh as the true god so trying to comfort yourself by playing my enemy's enemy is my friend would not work in this case because even christians do not agree amongst themselves on very sensitive issues including Jesus divinity.
I can only speak for myself,the evidence that would make me believe in god is if I have a clear revelation of who he is(assuming he exists) and he makes it clear what he wants from me,if that happens and I refuse to acknowledge and worship him then that is when I can properly be called a fool,look there are a lot of challenges we as atheists pass through in life,you think we don't want to close our eyes and say a few words and everything becones fine,look I don't know the prejudice you have against atheists but for me I have no problems with christians or religious people at all all I demand is you give me the same respect I accord to you,I am a full grown human I know what I want in life,you don't love me more than I love myself,I was a raises as a christian and at a point in my life was a vibrant one whether u wish to believe it or not is not my business,I stopped believing in god because what I saw in the Bible didn't correspond to what I experienced maybe its different for you fine,be a Christian I'm not trying to convert you its life live it the way you want,but for me I can only believe in god if I get a clear revelation about him,no I would like u to show me how illogical my reason or demand is
Let me be brief here. You consciously prefer to let your bias dictate your seriously flawed conclusions. That is why you exchanged superior truth for a knockdown version devoid of power.

You are not street smart sir, how come you can't recognize an atheist disguised as a Christian ? They even have defrauded their way to positions as pastors. Thousands of them discrediting the divinity of Jesus, the miracles of Jesus etc.

It is shameful to witness atheists pretend that they want to know the truth about the Greatest man to have ever walked this forsaken planet
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 3:18pm On Jul 29, 2018
darkchild64:

Common dude it doesn't make sense for a Christian to be calling a person an "As.shole" on a Sunday,and later be preaching about going to hell
I pity you sometimes, I can't imagine what your fellow chrsitains think of u
So you say he is not an as.hole because its Sunday? What would you call a spade on a public holiday?
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by Nobody: 4:07pm On Jul 29, 2018
ScienceWatch:
Will you feel foolish after you do an honest examination of how thousands of Jews and their Rabbi's testify in public about how they were deceived for so long by
the Pharisees ?
Now they finally believe that the pillar they rejected was indeed the most important. Jesus is their Messiah.
What is happening among Israel's top clergy will shock your biased mind. Serious work is underway to bring their beliefs inline with superior truths.

Let me add another shocker for you as a bonus. There are also growing numbers of Muslims and Imams that are not afraid to die for the superior truth and evidence they found after examining only one Holy Gospel. Now they praise and sing wonderful worship songs with joy overflowing.

Goan shock ur self wit electeic wire fess before u shock others.

This is a long baseless hopeless senseless useless meaningless n directionless post.

"" Jesus is their Messiah.""

Jesus is not the messiah of the Jews, Jews aren't Christians, Rather they are Judaists and ur hopeless lies cannot change them into Christians.

Wen the Jews in Israel become Christians, U can open a new thread for that but as for now, Stop being silly.

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Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by tintingz(m): 4:08pm On Jul 29, 2018
ScienceWatch:
How dare you insult Vaxx's intelligence when you are not even fit to serve him. He would never employ someone with your mind set.
Vaxx is intelligent, Vaxx is brave, Vaxx is mighty... Keep on the sissy cheer leading

I wonder how you don't sense your insanity.
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 4:10pm On Jul 29, 2018
darkchild64:

Common dude it doesn't make sense for a Christian to be calling a person an "As.shole" on a Sunday,and later be preaching about going to hell
I pity you sometimes, I can't imagine what your fellow chrsitains think of u
Try to pity me more than that because I pity you more than you pity me.

Darkchild, I am still waiting for your answer to my question.. What will you call a spade on a public holiday?
Your answer will reveal why no evidence of God is good enough for you.
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by budaatum: 4:21pm On Jul 29, 2018
winner01:
1. The best way a Christian can preach to you is through his lifestyle not by arguments or forceful convictions.
I agree with "through his lifestyle", which I would rephrase as 'doing the will of God', so why bother with the the preaching to atheists at all then? Shouldn't the Christian be so busy doing the will of God with "forceful conviction" that they shouldn't really have time to be 'preaching' to some stupid hell bound atheist?

Some people would claim Christianity is a lifestyle, to which, I agree. If they wish to preach, they should perhaps live accordingly instead of bothering about what one believes, maybe.

winner01:
2. Christians are to put on a humble attitude anytime they engage in these discussions.
Na, I'm not having that! The Lord Jesus Christ never did "humble attitude" when dealing with those who were atheistic to his position. "Meek and gentle" he did, but there was nothing humble about him, so I don't know where you get that from

Christians are not fighting against flesh and blood and are told to put on the full armour of God, war like things, with nothing "humble attitude" amongst them. Also springs to mind are the fruits of the Spirit, they mean way more than "humble attitude", in my opinion

Please consider "Christians should use 'wisdom' anytime they engage in these discussions". It is not only screaming from the rooftops begging people to have some please, but "for God so loved the world" as well, and not just believing, as some might think. After all, how can what even the devil does, become such a godly thing? There is a huge difference in "humbly turning the other cheek" and "turning the other cheek wisdomly."

winner01:
3. It's natural for Christians to feel insulted when atheists mock them. Atheists do not necessarily mock Christians only when they are being preached to. This is a religion section for instance, one will wonder why there are many atheists here.
Ah go way! This may be a religious section, but that might be because we Nigerians do religion more than talk philosophy, which is actually what we do here, search for knowledge and wisdom.

Religion is what one does when they think they already know it when in actual fact they merely believe, and no one needs to come here to argue about their beliefs. I can bloody well believe whatever I want and not present it for scrutiny. And I'm sure no one can enter my head to see my beliefs and claim they are false or wrong! But as soon as I present my beliefs or opinion on here I should expect them to be scrutinised, and even mocked and ridiculed, and I should grow a thicker skin or I should shut the fuq up.

The truth is that, "Nobody can mock my Almighty God who art in my head, and besides, when they mock me on it's behalf, I should rejoice, for they simply mount more blessing upon me by their mockery".

But let's do the atheist's perspective . When I come here, I rejoice because if I were not here challenging the validity of your beliefs, you would remain as a child believing as a child and not have had to develop knowledge so that you become grown up and acquire wisdom and become better capable of living godly.

Also, by challenging you on the existence of your God you sow your seeds as words to counter whatever I might say. Then others come along and read what has been written, and if the seed were good and the soil good too, the seed would blossom into an abundantly fruit giving tree. Can you see the benefit therefore, of challenging one another? Not only is your iron sharpened, but mine becomes sharpened too, as well as that of the silent observers.

winner01:
4. When some Christians choose to give you the dose of your medicine, I noticed that atheists get overtly aggressive.
Hmm. I don't think the above is more true than to claim the aggression is from both sides. Nor can I determine which side has the medicine that causes this aggression as there seems to be culprits on either side.

Aggression is the medicine of fools and the unwise, and ought not be found in those who have been baptised with the Blood of Christ. But if a person creates a thread or post that provokes one (for example my 'silly' post to rekinomtla above), that is the medicine that makes the other respond aggressively. I wonder if you'd agree if I were to say "Blessed are the peacemaker" might not apply to buda in that case. I assure you, buda burned in hell for being so silly to dish out aggression medicine and had to confess her sin and ask forgiveness to relieve the burning her silliness caused her. She even has to continously repent to make up for it, which would have been needless if she hadn't sinned to begin with!

winner01:
5. It's better both sides remain humble and hear themselves out. Only then can truth prevail.
You like this "humble" word, I see. And I do see where you are coming from. It is true that if I don't hear you out I might call stuff "crap" without properly comprehending it, or use the word 'silly' without considering or caring about the impact I may provoke by it. I'd say that is a lesson I hope I learn and never make again, so help me God.

But we'd have to find another word for it. I hate the word, humble, because it's generally accepted meaning is that I should allow others to ride all over me, which I, buda, know that I shall never do because I was brought up on it and found it gave every Chukwudi, Mohammed and Adebola the perceived right to talk down to one thinking one were weak!

I rather confound ignorance with intelligence and wisdom than with aggression and stupidity, and know to leave the latters to......., well, let me attempt to be holy on this Sabbath and not name him today please Lord!

Do note winner01, that the above is what you brought out of me by sharpening my iron through your lifestyle and which no amount of 'preaching' could have provoked in me. Amen!
Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by ScienceWatch: 4:29pm On Jul 29, 2018
tintingz:
Vaxx is intelligent, Vaxx is brave, Vaxx is mighty... Keep on the sissy cheer leading

I wonder how you don't sense your insanity.
So say a low grade student mocking his superior teacher. Vaxx will never employ the mindset you advertise here.
Just in passing, try to add atheist to your job application. Christians and Muslims have a 98% chance if they do it.
I have sat in recruitment meetings where a growing awareness and fear of atheism was discussed.

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