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jakeporeshenko:
This is a big deal for NAF

ASELPOD ON JF-17 COMFIRMED!

“It was recently confirmed through Aselsan's Annual Yearbook for 2017 that the company's ASELPOD advanced targeting pod was successfully integrated to and tested from the Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) JF-17 THUNDER multi-role fighter in 2017. The PAF ordered eight ASELPODs for U$25 million from Aselsan in 2016, with deliveries in November 2016 as well as September and February 2017.”

https://www.monch.com/mpg/news/air/3913-asel17.html

Good news.

allexpensive:
Yes, their air assets conduct air strike with the presence of our own air assets such as ISR.

Who else knows that feeds from the ISR can be transferred to the command and control room during missions?

In one of the video posted by NAF YouTube account. I can't just remember if it was Cameroonian or Chadian ISR providing feeds for NAF strike assets in a joint task operation.

@Bidexxi: I hear the J-10 doesn't have approval for foreign sales. Its strictly for the PLA Airforce. As for the Su-30, i would advocate we go for single engine Jets (e.g. Jf 17) in great numbers probably 2 squadrons than getting Su-30 which is a twin engine jet with crazily high maintenance costs. This is the thinking i believe made the NAF go for Jf17. You know how poor our defence budgets are in comparison to our GDP, population and land mass. Let us not buy planes that will only be kept in the hangar. In fact the JF17 Block 3 is to have AESA radar. If we get a few block 2's and then move on to get more of Block 3's when it is ready, then we are good.

PRESS RELEASE



PARADE OF EIGHT ( VICIOUS AND NOTORIOUS KIDNAP FOR RANSOM/ARMED ROBBERY GANG ARRESTED ALONG ABUJA-KADUNA-KANO HIGHWAY FOR THE RECENT KIDNAPPINGS AND ARMED ROBBERY BY THE FORCE PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER, Ag. DCP JIMOH MOSHOOD AT THE FORCE HEADQUARTERS, ABUJA. 1ST AUGUST, 2018.



· THE EIGHT ( SUSPECTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RECENT KILLINGS, KIDNAPPINGS AND ARMED ROBBERIES ON KADUNA – ABUJA-KANO ROADS INCLUDING THE KILLING OF A FMR COMMISSIONER IN KATSINA STATE, PROF. HALIMATU SADIA IDRIS ON 22ND JULY, 2018 AND ARMED ROBBERY ATTACK ON PROF. MOHAMMED KHALID OTHMAN, DIR. NATIONAL AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH EXTENSIONS AND LIAISON SERVICES, ABU, ZARIA AND THE KIDNAP OF A NURSING MOTHER WITH HER SEVEN (7) MONTHS OLD BABY

· POLICE MOBILE FORCE (PMF) UNITS OF THE PMF SQUADRONS IN MOPOL 1 KADUNA, MOPOL 47 ZARIA AND MOPOL 61 KAFANCHAN ON SPECIAL DUTIES OUTSIDE THE STATE HAVE BEEN ORDERED BY THE IGP TO RETURN BACK TO KADUNA STATE TO BEEF-UP SECURITY IN THE STATE

SUSPECTS

i. Lawal Tukur a.k.a Sawaita 40yrs - The Leader of the Gang

ii. Sulaiman Sani a.k.a Maude 27yrs – Principal Suspects (Confessed to have Killed Four (4) People )

iii. Abubakar Ahmad a.k.a Buzu 30yrs native of Sabon Fegi town

iv. Abubakar Adamu a.k.a Gurgu 33yrs native of Tashan Zomo town - Confessed to have Killed Four (4) People

v. Yahaya Musa 33yrs – Principal Suspects

vi. Kabiru Bala 23yrs native of Shika Town - kidnaps women and children particularly the Kidnap of Rahinatu Shehu 'F' 51yrs, Aisha Sani 'F' 23yrs and her Seven (7) Months old Baby at their residence in Mararaba Guga town, Giwa LGA along Kaduna-Zaria road

vii. Rufai Tukur 26yrs Native of Tashan Zomo town who runs errands to the Notorious Gang

viii. Shehu Audi 32yrs of Tashan Zomo in Kaduna State - kidnaps women and children particularly the Kidnap of Rahinatu Shehu 'F' 51yrs, Aisha Sani 'F' 23yrs and her Seven (7) Months old Baby at their residence in Mararaba Guga town, Giwa LGA along Kaduna-Zaria road

EXHIBITS

i. Two (2) AK47 Rifles

ii. Three (3) pairs of suspected fake military uniforms

iii. Cutlasses

iv. Motorbike

v. Shedda Cloth and other properties belonging to some of the victims

The Inspector General of Police, IGP Ibrahim K. Idris, NPM, mni, concerned with the recent security situation on the Abuja-Kaduna-Kano Expressway and the killing of a former commissioner in Katsina State, Prof. Halimatu Sadia Idris on 22nd July, 2018, the armed robbery attack on Prof. Mohammed Khalid Othman, Director National Agricultural Research Extensions and Liaison Services, Ahmadu Bello University, ABU, Zaria, and the Kidnap of Rahinatu Shehu 'F' 51yrs, Aisha Sani 'F' 23yrs and her Seven (7) Months old Baby at their residence in Mararaba Guga town, Giwa LGA along Kaduna-Zaria road; directed a discreet investigation into the incidents and the arrest of perpetrators to bring them to justice.



2. As part of measures to restore safety and normalcy on the Abuja-Kaduna, and Kaduna-Kano Highways, the IGP ordered additional deployments of Police personnel and vehicular patrol teams to re-gird Operation Absolute Sanity to rid the routes of these bandits and hoodlums.



3. Secondly, all Police Mobile Force (PMF) Units of the PMF Squadrons in MOPOL 1 Kaduna, MOPOL 47 Zaria and MOPOL 61 Kafanchan on special duties outside the State have been ordered by the IGP to return back to Kaduna State to beef-up security in the State, particularly on Kaduna-Abuja highway, Kaduna-Zaria-Kano, Kaduna-BirninGwari-Zamfara-Funtua-Zamfara highway and other flash points in the State.



4. The IGP Intelligence Response Team (IRT) working on reliable intelligence embarked on massive raid of identified kidnappers dens, hideouts and black spots on Kaduna-Abuja, Kaduna-Zaria-Kano highways. The IGP Intelligence Response Team (IRT) personnel engaged the bandits in a shootout that lasted several hours and at the end effect the arrest of the eight ( suspects and recovered from them the listed exhibits. Six (6) of their victims were rescued from captivities.



5. All the suspects confessed to the various criminal roles they played in the commission of the crimes.

6. Investigation is in progress and effort is being intensified to arrest other suspects still at large. They will all be arraigned in court on completion of investigation.

7. Zamfara State: Normalcy has been restored with additional deployments of Police personnel after the attack on Kodi Village in Zurmi Local Government Area on 24th July, 2018 where Four (4) people were killed. The Force is already embarking on Police Crime Prevention, Visibility and Confidence Building Patrols. The people in the affected Villages have started returning to their homes.

ii. Arrest:

Thirty Five (35) Bandits have been arrested in connection with the recent attacks in some villages in Zamfara State.

iii. Six (6) AK47 Rifles, Fifteen (15) Locally Fabricated Guns, One Hundred and Eighty Three (183) AK47 Ammunition, Seven (7) Live cartridges were recovered from the Bandits

iv. All the suspects have made useful statements to the Police investigators and confessed to the killings in the affected villages.



Ag. DCP JIMOH MOSHOOD

FORCE PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER

FORCE HEADQUARTERS

ABUJA

Photos

brosiye99:
@Bidexxi: I hear the J-10 doesn't have approval for foreign sales. Its strictly for the PLA Airforce. As for the Su-30, i would advocate we go for single engine Jets (e.g. Jf 17) in great numbers probably 2 squadrons than getting Su-30 which is a twin engine jet with crazily high maintenance costs. This is the thinking i believe made the NAF go for Jf17. You know how poor our defence budgets are in comparison to our GDP, population and land mass. Let us not buy planes that will only be kept in the hangar. In fact the JF17 Block 3 is to have AESA radar. If we get a few block 2's and then move on to get more of Block 3's when it is ready, then we are good.

Single engine aircraft in this 21st century? To me it is penny wise pounds foolish. What if there is any problem with the single engine, that means the pilot will just ditch the multimillion dollar machine. Twin engine is safer, in aviation you don't trade Safety for anything cos it is disastrous. Just imagine a military aircraft with high explosive having an engine failure the disaster is better imagined.

ugo4u:
Single engine aircraft in this 21st century? To me it is penny wise pounds foolish. What if there is any problem with the single engine, that means the pilot will just ditch the multimillion dollar machine. Twin engine is safer, in aviation you don't trade Safety for anything cos it is disastrous. Just imagine a military aircraft with high explosive having an engine failure the disaster is better imagined.

Huhh What’s wrong with that, engine failures are not nearly as common as you think.

allexpensive:
Talk about the cooperation of Cameroon in MNJTF, the release of the arrested separist leaders to the Cameroonian government etc. I see the handwork of the French there. The presence of Canada in Mali, let see how the result we go.

What matters to me is the safety of Nigerian troops on ground. Defending the territorial integrity of the country. Let DIA and others handle the intelligence aspect.

Some opinion are of mine and not from my field of work. Not every information is made available to me too but I deduce some things too.

Odunayaw:
am not interested in the debate but using such examples to measure intent (especially future ones) is simplistic

The safety, welfare and security of Nigerian troops are the responsibility of the Nigerian Government and the citizens. France, U.S. And Canada have no say in it.


Lets understand that foreign interference is a reality, no doubt about that. It won't stop today or tomorrow.

But the bottom line is that whatever outcome depends entirely on Nigerian Government actions.

F-16 is a single engine (one of the best fighters of the 4th Gen era) and even the 5th gen F-35 is a single engine. What we should be looking at is the maintenance costs. Twin engine aircraft are actually much better if you can afford them but their maintenance costs are very high. Can Nigeria have lets say 12 Su-30/35 that would can be regularly in the air. I doubt much.

What matters in any warplane is not the number engines but the sensors, electronics suites, weapons and i may add stealth.

Still we must also note that twin engine jets such as the f-22 Raptor is always having to be maintained even after a few hours of flight time costing the USAF millions of dollars annually for just one F-22. That is why the Raptor hardly flies except in special cases. That is also why the F-16 gets more work load and sorties than some of the heavier twin engine 4th Gen planes in the American arsenal such as the F-15 and F/A18 Hornet

Its about practicability and useability rather than prestige in my opinion.

brosiye99:
F-16 is a single engine (one of the best fighters of the 4th Gen era) and even the 5th gen F-35 is a single engine. What we should be looking at is the maintenance costs. Twin engine aircraft are actually much better if you can afford them but their maintenance costs are very high. Can Nigeria have lets say 12 Su-30/35 that would can be regularly in the air. I doubt much.

What matters in any warplane is not the number engines but the sensors, electronics suites, weapons and i may add stealth.

Still we must also note that twin engine jets such as the f-22 Raptor is always having to be maintained even after a few hours of flight time costing the USAF millions of dollars annually for just one F-22. That is why the Raptor hardly flies except in special cases. That is also why the F-16 gets more work load and sorties than some of the heavier twin engine 4th Gen planes in the American arsenal such as the F-15 and F/A18 Hornet

Its about practicability and useability rather than prestige in my opinion.

What is all this big big analysis all about?

The NAF is getting JF-17 Thunder multirole Combat jet. What else do you guys want?

ugo4u:
Single engine aircraft in thits 21st century? To me it is penny wise pounds foolish. What if there is any problem with the single engine, that means the pilot will just ditch the multimillion dollar machine. Twin engine is safer, in aviation you don't trade Safety for anything cos it is disastrous. Just imagine a military aircraft with high explosive having an engine failure the disaster is better imagined.

Haha, bros this one touch me o

brosiye99:
F-16 is a single engine (one of the best fighters of the 4th Gen era) and even the 5th gen F-35 is a single engine. What we should be looking at is the maintenance costs. Twin engine aircraft are actually much better if you can afford them but their maintenance costs are very high. Can Nigeria have lets say 12 Su-30/35 that would can be regularly in the air. I doubt much.

What matters in any warplane is not the number engines but the sensors, electronics suites, weapons and i may add stealth.

Still we must also note that twin engine jets such as the f-22 Raptor is always having to be maintained even after a few hours of flight time costing the USAF millions of dollars annually for just one F-22. That is why the Raptor hardly flies except in special cases. That is also why the F-16 gets more work load and sorties than some of the heavier twin engine 4th Gen planes in the American arsenal such as the F-15 and F/A18 Hornet

Its about practicability and useability rather than prestige in my opinion.

If the primary requirement is to have an aircraft with low procurement & operational cost – single engine is preferable. If the primary requirement is to have a greater payload, high-performance (in a bigger flight-envelope) – twin-engine aircraft is preferable. The level of technology available also plays a role. If a country’s engine doesn’t have sufficient reliability or thrust, then twin-engine airframe will be the preferable choice by default.

lionel4power:
The safety, welfare and security of Nigerian troops are the responsibility of the Nigerian Government and the citizens. France, U.S. And Canada have no say in it.


Lets understand that foreign interference is a reality, no doubt about that. It won't stop today or tomorrow.

But the bottom line is that whatever outcome depends entirely on Nigerian Government actions.

While I don't agree with the belief that France seeks the downfall of the country I don't believe they are enthusiastic about our prosperity either. The bolded just reinforces the cliché there are no friends, just interests . In all, their help isnt an act of altruism, its because our interests are aligned that's why there is good relationship

ugo4u:
Single engine aircraft in this 21st century? To me it is penny wise pounds foolish. What if there is any problem with the single engine, that means the pilot will just ditch the multimillion dollar machine. Twin engine is safer, in aviation you don't trade Safety for anything cos it is disastrous. Just imagine a military aircraft with high explosive having an engine failure the disaster is better imagined.

what is this? India investing in Single engine, Sweden, Brazil etc are all foolish now?

Are we not getting too wise for ourselves

lionel4power:
What is all this big big analysis all about?

The NAF is getting JF-17 Thunder multirole Combat jet. What else do you guys want?

It's not a sin if we get a more superiority fighter/multi role fighter jet

Odunayaw:
While I don't agree with the belief that France seeks the downfall of the country I don't believe they are enthusiastic about our prosperity either. The bolded just reinforces the cliché there are no friends, just interests . In all, their help isnt an act of altruism, its because our interests are aligned that's why there is good relationship

The bolded is the most important part that guy should understand.

Odunayaw:
what is this?

Are we not getting too wise for ourselves

If the engine of the single engined fighter have FADEC then no worries 99% of the time.

Full authority digital engine control (FADEC) is a system consisting of a digital computer and its related accessories that control all aspects of aircraft engine performance.

HAL and United Aircraft Corporation of Russia parted ways on the development of MTA (IL-276) due this issue with IAF wanting a FADEC installed engine while the Russian wanting to go with a legacy engine.

For info

Presently jf17 uses the RD-93 engine ( based on RD33) which does not have FADEC.

While the FADEC equipped newer versions of RD33 ie RD33MK is used in Mig-29UPG/mig-29K/mig-35 and all r twin engined coincidentally.

Almost all present single engined aircrafts like f16 , Gripen , fa-50 , f-2 , LCA , j-10 have FADEC installed engine

Imo Naf should insist on FADEC installed RD33MK for jf17 and save a lot of headache later on

ugo4u:
Single engine aircraft in this 21st century? To me it is penny wise pounds foolish. What if there is any problem with the single engine, that means the pilot will just ditch the multimillion dollar machine. Twin engine is safer, in aviation you don't trade Safety for anything cos it is disastrous. Just imagine a military aircraft with high explosive having an engine failure the disaster is better imagined.

Engine failure these days are actually predictable. Every component has fatigue life and a MTBF known exactly. You see NAF doing PDMs when the aircraft can still fly, this is to ensure that components nearing their life are replaced. So single engine aircraft are getting more reliable once you do your PDM.

There are also "common cause failures" that happen in a double engine redundancy situation . Fuel system issues will affect both engines at the same time and they both fail and the plane goes down so ..two engines are not helping. To make matters interesting some 2 engine aircraft have single intake so in a bird strike situation you can't sat there is a second engine to help you.

My problem with a light fighter li,e JF17 is range. We need to be able to get inside Chad, Cameroon and Niger. If we buy a squadron we need to start practising aerial refuelling

SternProphet:
Engine failure these days are actually predictable. Every component has fatigue life and a MTBF known exactly. You see NAF doing PDMs when the aircraft can still fly, this is to ensure that components nearing their life are replaced. So single engine aircraft are getting more reliable once you do your PDM.

There are also "common cause failures" that happen in a double engine redundancy situation . Fuel system issues will affect both engines at the same time and they both fail and the plane goes down so ..two engines are not helping. To make matters interesting some 2 engine aircraft have single intake so in a bird strike situation you can't sat there is a second engine to help you.

My problem with a light fighter li,e JF17 is range. We need to be able to get inside Chad, Cameroon and Niger. If we buy a squadron we need to start practising aerial refuelling

Weytin you wan do for there? The range of jf17 is good enough for it role.

SternProphet:
Engine failure these days are actually predictable.

Yes but this is applicable to only modern engines equipped with FADEC.

FADEC allows for

Automatic engine protection against out of tolerance operations. More safety margin as the multiple channel FADEC computer provides redundancy in case of failure of a single channel. Care free engine handling, with guaranteed thrust settings. Better systems integration with engine and aircraft systems. Reduction in the number of parameters to be monitored by pilot etc etc

And importantly provides engine health monitoring and diagnostics ability. Due to the high number of parameters monitored, the FADEC allows for fault tolerant engine.

As for ur concerns with MTBF of components, it is a extrinsic factor more to do with off flight, off line diagnostics and maintenance only , unlike FADEC equipped engine which deals with both on line / on flight and off line / off flight diagnostics and maintenance.

every engine has a OEM rated MTBO ( mean time between overhauls ) also known as TBO/TBOH ( time between overhauls ).

In short it is the OEM recommended number of running hours or calendar time before an aircraft engine needs to be overhauled to cater for component MTBF etc etc.

If a engine suffers component failure than it is most of the time due to the faults of the repair and maintenance crew to adhere to OEM mandated SOPs ie MTBO etc etc or use of faulty/substandard components sourced from non OEM sources.

Mi

100% agree with this, FADEC is real time, online/offline reliability system.

nemesis8u:
I will leave it here for info.

Malaysian Su-30MKM operational flight availability ~ 14%

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/07/31/mat-sabu-only-four-out-of-rmaf-28-russian-fighter-jets-can-fly/

So wonder the amount of trouble and money IAF had burn through to ensure 75% peacetime operational availablity of ~230 numbers of Su-30MKI.

I have been campaigning on all platforms against Russian jets usage by third world countries. The support infrastructure is not just there and to make matters worse it is not just engine reliability but overall operational reliability... so avionics, flight controls, landing gear et,c also not reliable or heavily dependent on replacement parts from inefficient Russian supply chain since they don't have global networks of OEMs like for F16s.

Nigeria is just a smart country. We look for capability in every sense

Vbn

PRESS RELEASE
NAF APPOINTS NEW SPOKESMAN AS AVM ADESANYA BAGS DIPLOMATIC APPOINTMENT

The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) has appointed Air Commodore Ibikunle Daramola as the new spokesman to manage its public affairs activities with effect from today, 2 August 2018. The new Director of Public Relations and Information (DOPRI) took over from Air Vice Marshal (AVM) Olatokunbo Adesanya, who has been at the helms of Information management in the NAF since April 2017. AVM Adesanya will be departing the country shortly, following his appointment as Nigeria’s Defence Attache (DA) to Moscow, Russia.

Air Commodore Ibikunle Daramola was the Commander, 041 Communications Depot, Shasha, Lagos before his recent appointment. He is a member of the Nigerian Defence Academy (NDA) Regular Course 39 and was commissioned into the NAF as a Regular Combatant officer in September 1991. Air Commodore Ibikunle Daramola holds a Master of Science Degree in Telecommunications Engineering from New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, New Jersey, United States of America and a Post Graduate Diploma in Telecommunications and Electronics Engineering from Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife. Air Commodore Daramola also holds a Bachelor of Science in Mathematics from NDA and a Certificate de Langue Francais from Alliance Francaise.

Since joining the NAF, the new DOPRI has attended many military as well as professional courses, some of which include Electronics Engineering Officers’ Basic Course at 320 Technical Training Group, now Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT), Kaduna as well as Junior and Senior Staff Courses at the prestigious Armed Forces Command and Staff College (AFCSC), Jaji. He was also a participant at the National Defence Course, National Defence University in Islamabad, Pakistan. He has also participated in several short courses, seminars and workshops within and outside Nigeria.

The new NAF Spokesman has served in various units and Commands of the NAF. He was the Deputy Research Officer at the NAF Research & Development Centre and Chief Instructor Electronics Engineering Maintenance School at AFIT. Air Commodore Ibikunle Daramola was a Directing Staff, AFCSC, Jaji, Deputy Director Communications, Headquarters NAF (HQ NAF). He had a brief stint as the Deputy Director Plans, HQ NAF, Abuja. He is happily married and blessed with children. At his leisure time, the new DOPRI loves reading and listening to gospel music.

BASSEY OKON
Wing Commander
for Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force

This website says it all, the reason why we should invest in this our indigienous company and make the production a large scale one... Hope the idea would be bought..they also produce Amoured boats and Suvs



http://proforcedefence.com/mrap/

Where’s our in house aeronautical engineer/Demfas CEO Dayo ?

SternProphet:
My problem with a light fighter li,e JF17 is range. We need to be able to get inside Chad, Cameroon and Niger. If we buy a squadron we need to start practising aerial refuelling

This guys!

Do N.A allow soldiers who can afford private gear(like pistols and night vision) to use them on battlefield.

SternProphet:
Engine failure these days are actually predictable. Every component has fatigue life and a MTBF known exactly. You see NAF doing PDMs when the aircraft can still fly, this is to ensure that components nearing their life are replaced. So single engine aircraft are getting more reliable once you do your PDM.

There are also "common cause failures" that happen in a double engine redundancy situation . Fuel system issues will affect both engines at the same time and they both fail and the plane goes down so ..two engines are not helping. To make matters interesting some 2 engine aircraft have single intake so in a bird strike situation you can't sat there is a second engine to help you.

My problem with a light fighter li,e JF17 is range. We need to be able to get inside Chad, Cameroon and Niger. If we buy a squadron we need to start practising aerial refuelling

Aerial refueling? na Canada we wan strike? lol. On a serious note even our Chinese F7s can strike any part of Chad, Cameroon,Niger etc from any base in Adamawa or Borno. Note the F7 NI has a range of about 800km.
As for mid air refueling I laff again, na for enemy territory you wan refuel. Ask any combat pilot, once he is in an enemy air space, the only thing on his mind is to hit his target and return home while watching out for enemy interceptor/missile simultaneously. An aircraft carrier would have made more sense, but which water we wan station the carrier and most importantly which money we wan take buy am, when to buy aircraft na wahala.

ugo4u:
Aerial refueling? na Canada we wan strike? lol. On a serious note even our Chinese F7s can strike any part of Chad, Cameroon,Niger etc from any base in Adamawa or Borno. Note the F7 NI has a range of about 800km.
As for mid air refueling I laff again, na for enemy territory you wan refuel. Ask any combat pilot, once he is in an enemy air space, the only thing on his mind is to hit his target and return home while watching out for enemy interceptor/missile simultaneously. An aircraft carrier would have made more sense, but which water we wan station the carrier and most importantly which money we wan take buy am, when to buy aircraft na wahala.

I partially agree. The whole premise of mid air refuelling though is that it is done over the sea or lightly contested airspace. There is no air force contesting where we are going to need it anywhere in Africa except the French Airforce in some places. Remember we once had an air force Alpha Jet drop out of sky on Malian ops.

lionel4power:
This guys!

Might just happen someday that weak governments allow terrorist camps to flourish in neighbouring countries. That is the threat profile i have in mind here.