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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 9:57pm On Aug 09, 2018
Adisaowalla:


Nobody is disputing the fact that defensive solidity is important for a credible title challenge.

However, the crux of the matter is that Mourihno seems to be more fixated on the team conceding less even when it's so obvious that our problems lie elsewhere...





if anything, we were more concerned with the goals drought during those games. Our fowards were even making the wrong headlines if i can remember vividly.



During the last 5 seasons we won the league (under Fergie), it was only the 2008/2009 season we could boast of the meanest defence.



Despite how "mean" our defence was, how come we finished 19 points behind the champions?




the difference was that pep was able to perfect and impose his possession / attacking football on opponents, in the process winning more games in total & setting records such as the most consecutive away victories (11) & overall away victories (16).





Nope - this was what you said....


It is not about having the meanest defence, it is about having a solid defence base. I am not advocating for Mou, I am only stating what I know about the game. Defence is very important.

Our defence wasn’t mean because DDG saved more shot than Ederson had to face, DDG was our saving grace last season, no wonder he won the Club Best Player Award.

I am of the opinion that’s Mou doesn’t trust his defenders to hold their own that’s why he prefer defending deep instead of a high line. Look at our match against Chelsea in FA cup final, see how the goal comes about and you will see what I’m talking about. Most of our defenders can’t play out from the back, pressing high up the pitch with defenders like Smalling and Jones is going to be disastrous (well that’s what I think, I might be wrong)

The reason we finish 19pts behind City was because of the silly point we lost against the lower teams and our inconsistency. While I agree that Pep style of play played a part in their campaign last season, you can’t deny the fact that their defence play a huge part, if not Pep could have stick with Mangala, Sagna, Hart, Bravo, Kolarov and co.

That’s what I think anyway, it doesn’t necessarily makes me wrong or makes you right. Shalom.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ctuagent007: 10:00pm On Aug 09, 2018
larride:


It has been proven over and over again that you need a solid defense base to sustain a title challenge.

I disagree....u can check Fergie & the great Liverpool triumphs, what made those teams successful from the 70s till date was their attacks even the fluke Lecister EPL trophy was as a result of their potent attackers (Mahrez, Okazaki, Vardy & the likes).

I may agree a little with u in the sense that Greece in 2004 & Italy in 2006 were more of defense than attack but when u check the history of the WCs & Euros till date, the victorious armies has mostly favoured the attacks & France 2018 can testify to that.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 10:07pm On Aug 09, 2018
spartacus11:


I see u want dem to sack our special one. Hope you've typed the letter, or will it be through text message?

Airmark shebi Conte is still in the market

Sunday Oliseh is available
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 10:15pm On Aug 09, 2018
ctuagent007:


I disagree....u can check Fergie & the great Liverpool triumphs, what made those teams successful from the 70s till date was their attacks even the fluke Lecister EPL trophy was as a result of their potent attackers (Mahrez, Okazaki, Vardy & the likes).

I may agree a little with u in the sense that Greece in 2004 & Italy in 2006 were more of defense than attack but when u check the history of the WCs & Euros till date, the victorious armies has mostly favoured the attacks & France 2018 can testify to that.

Euro 2016 that Portugal won? The same one they defended with their life?

France that some said were boring and depended on fast counter attacking? That same France? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 10:18pm On Aug 09, 2018
larride:


Euro 2016 that Portugal won? The same one they defended with their life?

France that some said were boring and depended on fast counter attacking? That same France? grin

cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Adisaowalla: 10:20pm On Aug 09, 2018
larride:



Our defence wasn’t mean because DDG saved more shot than Ederson had to face, DDG was our saving grace last season, no wonder he won the Club Best Player Award.

In as much as I agree that we could do with some upgrades at the heart of the defence, the fact that we conceded the 2nd fewest number of goals nullifies Mourihno's obsession with the signature of Centrebacks like say na wetin cause our failure to win the league last season be that.

larride:


I am of the opinion that’s Mou doesn’t trust his defenders to hold their own that’s why he prefer defending deep instead of a high line.

Mourihno would not play a high-line in defence even if he has the likes of Maldini, Nesta, Stam and Thuram as CB options.

The last time he tried it, Madrid were humiliated 5-0 by a Barca side coached by.....??



your guess is as good as mine!

larride:

The reason we finish 19pts behind City was because of the silly point we lost against the lower teams and our inconsistency.

Exactly what we are saying - the acquisition of Maguire, Boateng, Chiellini, Ramos, Godin and all the CBs in the world wouldn't have any significant impact...if we are to tow the path of this valid argument in bold letters
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 11:14pm On Aug 09, 2018
Hmm

Seems baba is up for something oo

Mourinho: “By the end of November or December you don't need words, you'll see by then which teams are candidates to win the Premier League. At the moment, words are not important. Let's play football and see by the end of November or December.”
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 12:05am On Aug 10, 2018
Joker

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 1:11am On Aug 10, 2018
So Fosu Mensah was also sent on loan.

We are all jokers.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Baldg: 1:18am On Aug 10, 2018
Like play. cry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 1:31am On Aug 10, 2018
For your reading pleasure

The suspicion of United’s hierarchy is the manager is taking a short‑term view rather than thinking more strategically about what would be better for the club in the coming years. Alderweireld will turn 30 in March and, as well as a fee reputed to be more than £50m, would have warranted a salary in the region of £25m over the next four years. United decided the player was not worth such a huge outlay, particularly given his age.


Mourinho sees things differently and can argue that, without new signings, it is unrealistic to expect his team to overhaul Manchester City. He made that point in a press conference on Thursday by stating United’s second-placed finish last season, 19 points behind City, was “one of my biggest achievements in the game”

Jérôme Boateng of Bayern Munich would once have appealed and Mourinho was keen on the Germany international. However, Boateng’s injury record counted against him, especially as United were mindful they had already bought two players from Bayern, Owen Hargreaves and Bastian Schweinsteiger, whose time at Old Trafford was notable for how many games they missed (MAGA UNITED grin grin grin grin grin grin)

Alexis Sánchez’s contract – £391,000 a week with an extra £75,000 for every game he plays and an annual £1.1m signing-on fee shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/09/manchester-united-veto-jose-mourinho-wishlist-cash-fears

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:00am On Aug 10, 2018
People abeg am I seeing this right

nihilstjnt afrodoc2

Alexis Sánchez’s contract – £391,000 a week with an extra £75,000 for every game he plays and an annual £1.1m signing-on fee

There are times Man Utd will play twice a week so an extra 150K for Alexis, Not including winning bonus
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 4:42am On Aug 10, 2018
raumdeuter:
People abeg am I seeing this right

nihilstjnt afrodoc2

Alexis Sánchez’s contract – £391,000 a week with an extra £75,000 for every game he plays and an annual £1.1m signing-on fee

There are times Man Utd will play twice a week so an extra 150K for Alexis, Not including winning bonus
If na me dey that team, Sanchez will chase every ball o... grin like
'Sanchez go mark am na...' grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:57am On Aug 10, 2018
You Can Ban me but you Cant Ban Me....If you know you know.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:40am On Aug 10, 2018
Spy360:

If na me dey that team, Sanchez will chase every ball o... grin like
'Sanchez go mark am na...' grin

That's why he was asked to play with the kids the other day
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:41am On Aug 10, 2018
raumdeuter:
People abeg am I seeing this right

nihilstjnt afrodoc2

Alexis Sánchez’s contract – £391,000 a week with an extra £75,000 for every game he plays and an annual £1.1m signing-on fee

There are times Man Utd will play twice a week so an extra 150K for Alexis, Not including winning bonus
I hope this is not true but if it is, Mourinho better do something tangible with these investments first before asking for more
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 5:46am On Aug 10, 2018
neezar:
Hmm

Seems baba is up for something oo

[b]Mourinho: “By the end of November or December you don't need words, you'll see by then which teams are candidates to win the Premier League. At the moment, words are not important. Let's play football and see by the end of November or December.”[\b]
He should be. No respect.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 5:53am On Aug 10, 2018
raumdeuter:
People abeg am I seeing this right

nihilstjnt afrodoc2

Alexis Sánchez’s contract – £391,000 a week with an extra £75,000 for every game he plays and an annual £1.1m signing-on fee

There are times Man Utd will play twice a week so an extra 150K for Alexis, Not including winning bonus
When Alexis performs well this won't be a problem.
Everybody that watch the pre season says he was the stand out player. Good signs of things to come.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 6:00am On Aug 10, 2018
"We've seen the likes of Lindelof and Bailly be
signed over the last two years - two young centre-
halves that were probably thought of as coming into
their prime now.

Bailly I'm really impressed by but
he's been injured and Lindelhof hasn't produced the
form that he might have been looking for. Is that
down to the player, or is that down to the
environment, the tactical element of the team and
the coaching that goes on?

"I'm looking over at Man City and seeing what
Guardiola is doing with Otamendi who didnt play
anywhere near the level until Guardiola came in.

Part of coaching is getting the best from your
players and I need to see that from Manchester
United."

Liam Rosenoir.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11468036/mourinho-needs-to-knuckle-down
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 6:07am On Aug 10, 2018
"Most managers don't spend the amount of money
in a lifetime that he has in the last two seasons.

He's been very fortunate to have been given the
funds at one of the biggest clubs in the world, so I
can't understand why any manager, with that
backing, is ever disgruntled.

Tim Sherwood.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11468036/mourinho-needs-to-knuckle-down

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 6:12am On Aug 10, 2018
slimghost:
"We've seen the likes of Lindelof and Bailly be
signed over the last two years - two young centre-
halves that were probably thought of as coming into
their prime now.

Bailly I'm really impressed by but
he's been injured and Lindelhof hasn't produced the
form that he might have been looking for. Is that
down to the player, or is that down to the
environment, the tactical element of the team and
the coaching that goes on?

"I'm looking over at Man City and seeing what
Guardiola is doing with Otamendi who didnt play
anywhere near the level until Guardiola came in.

Part of coaching is getting the best from your
players and I need to see that from Manchester
United."

Liam Rosenoir.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11468036/mourinho-needs-to-knuckle-down


Why couldn't pep get the best out of nolito and bravo that he bought? Stones nko? Mangala who was a record signing a season before he joined nko? Moanrimhoe is an arss but not everything should be tied to the guys neck.

You need to take it easy...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 6:19am On Aug 10, 2018
I honestly hope Mou make us eat our words this season

Baba is going into the season on a lowkey mode








Btw Tony Martial stays cool cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 6:24am On Aug 10, 2018
slimghost:
"Most managers don't spend the amount of money
in a lifetime that he has in the last two seasons.

He's been very fortunate to have been given the
funds at one of the biggest clubs in the world, so I
can't understand why any manager, with that
backing, is ever disgruntled.

Tim Sherwood.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11468036/mourinho-needs-to-knuckle-down

you are even taking the words of a coach who is a confirmed failure serious cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 6:24am On Aug 10, 2018
United concluded the defenders targeted were no better than those at the club and who, in today’s inflated market, could have cost upwards of £70m without vastly improving the team.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 6:25am On Aug 10, 2018
United were reluctant to spend vast amounts of money on players they did not consider to be elite performers.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 6:26am On Aug 10, 2018
United were willing to pay in excess of £100m for Raphaël Varane but Perez didn’t want to sell

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 6:28am On Aug 10, 2018
Woodward is against selling players such as Martial, Paul Pogba and Luke Shaw as they could be an asset to the club for many years.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 6:29am On Aug 10, 2018
Levy called Woodward to ask about two United players, one being Anthony Martial. Woodward wanted to keep Martial. Mourinho was willing to let him go.


God will bless Woodward

For those of u criticising the man, can u now see

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 6:30am On Aug 10, 2018
United decided Toby Alderweireld was not worth such a huge outlay, particularly given his age. Only one conversation took place between Woodward and Levy during the summer.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 6:32am On Aug 10, 2018
United’s hierarchy believe Mourinho is taking a short‑term view rather than thinking more strategically about what would be better for the club in the coming years.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 6:45am On Aug 10, 2018
diggz:


Why couldn't pep get the best out of nolito and bravo that he bought? Stones nko? Mangala who was a record signing a season before he joined nko? Moanrimhoe is an arss but not everything should be tied to the guys neck.

You need to take it easy...

You need to take it easy with misyarning. You barely made no sense in your post.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 6:48am On Aug 10, 2018
diggz:


you are even taking the words of a coach who is a confirmed failure serious cheesy cheesy

At least as a player, he won the league and made PFA team of the season.
I'd rather listen to him than a clown here spewing dust.

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