baby124:

Well... when I was in school that was not available. I have looked into the organization that owns it and it doesn’t look professional but who knows. I wonder how many citizens will be willing to co-sign on a loan for a non-citizen when the gbese will be on their head if the non-citizen runs away. Not a small gbese at all o. Most especially when the chances of getting a job after school as a non-citizen or green card holder is very low. Very low chance of paying back.

lefulefu:

abeg buzz off
nigga be feeling full of himself
u could be in one area in nigeria claiming u overseas
is it not nairaland again?
rubbish

yemiosinbajo:


Let us assume that I am indeed exaggerating. Will you be humble enough to accept that you are actually underestimating the impact of being illegal in America? What joy do you derive from being in America when you cannot go visit your family in Nigeria or even move near the border? How do you feel living in fear everyday, knowing that you cannot get an education or apply for a good job? How do you feel when your younger brother in Nigeria secures admission to a good school in the US with scholarship, but is denied a visa because you, his older sibling, went there and turned illegal (family history)? How do you feel when you have to hide from the cops daily in order not to be caught? How do you feel when an employer refuses to pay you your wages, but you cannot do anything because you know you are illegal? How do you feel when you hold fake IDs and social security numbers daily, all because you need to survive? How do you feel when you hear that your mum back home suffered a terrible illness, or your sister just got married, but you cannot even visit them for a minute, even if you have the funds?

Let us not underestimate the physical and psychological impacts things like this can have on a person. For the die-hard, strong-hearted people here, things like these may mean nothing to them. But to me, it does. I would rather stay in Nigeria than live such a life here.

Having said that, did you just say that no one will bother them if they do not go into any type of fraud? What is working without authorization in the US? Is that not a fraud? Will an illegal person not have to resort to working without authorization, or how will such a person survive? Will they not have to make fake IDs and fake SSNs just to get these jobs? Aren't these frauds? Will they be spared if they get caught? What exactly are you trying to say?

neyo2k7:
@yemiosinbajo

thanks for your objective contributions ..Quite interesting ..

I could relate 100%. I hope more people would learn

yemiosinbajo:


Good to know. But rude manner to end a sentence tho

neyo2k7:
@yemiosinbajo

thanks for your objective contributions ..Quite interesting ..

I could relate 100%. I hope more people would learn

yemiosinbajo:


Thanks, bro. I'm glad someone knows I'm not trying to discourage anyone from travelling to another country. I just want people to be well prepared before making such a move.

Sarang:


My apology

Pasca07:
All the things you mentioned so far doesn't change the fact that if US give a day visa to average Nigerians they will prefer it than staying in Nigeria that is d bitter truth.all this epistle will not stop Nigerians from leaving naija to usa either they have paper or not simply because if you can survive hard life in Nigeria then all the things you mentioned doesn't bother this set of people

yemiosinbajo:


Let us assume that I am indeed exaggerating. Will you be humble enough to accept that you are actually underestimating the impact of being illegal in America? What joy do you derive from being in America when you cannot go visit your family in Nigeria or even move near the border? How do you feel living in fear everyday, knowing that you cannot get an education or apply for a good job? How do you feel when your younger brother in Nigeria secures admission to a good school in the US with scholarship, but is denied a visa because you, his older sibling, went there and turned illegal (family history)? How do you feel when you have to hide from the cops daily in order not to be caught? How do you feel when an employer refuses to pay you your wages, but you cannot do anything because you know you are illegal? How do you feel when you hold fake IDs and social security numbers daily, all because you need to survive? How do you feel when you hear that your mum back home suffered a terrible illness, or your sister just got married, but you cannot even visit them for a minute, even if you have the funds?

Let us not underestimate the physical and psychological impacts things like this can have on a person. For the die-hard, strong-hearted people here, things like these may mean nothing to them. But to me, it does. I would rather stay in Nigeria than live such a life here.

Having said that, did you just say that no one will bother them if they do not go into any type of fraud? What is working without authorization in the US? Is that not a fraud? Will an illegal person not have to resort to working without authorization, or how will such a person survive? Will they not have to make fake IDs and fake SSNs just to get these jobs? Aren't these frauds? Will they be spared if they get caught? What exactly are you trying to say?

Babyvet:


No ur feeling full of yourself and you have not left the shores of Nigeria. Don’t waste your energy me , put into your visa application. No need for me to lie.

lefulefu:
visa application is not d issue. The issue is dat some of u guys come here to give false info. Like ur colleaue who was countered for exergerating. Same as some days ago some claiming to be in US was saying that TOFEL was what was required to gain admission. When i countered by saying a candidate needing to study in US or canada need to sit for SAT if he's going for a degree programme or if he's going for a Masters he has to sit for another exam(i have forgetten the name ) he said he hasnt heard of SAT.This was coming from someone who claimed he studied in a US college oo and he's working there.He has never heard of SAT. The admission officer in one or the schools i applied told me that its only non english speaking countries who sit for TOFEL and since i am frm nigeria i dont need TOFEL. But the nairalander said it was only europe and south africa who was exempted.what do i know? Maybe u guys could even be illegal immigrants forming posh for all i know.

Babyvet:


Please stop lumping everyone together and know how to differentiate between different posters. I'm don't have any colleague on here so I don't know what your talking about. I can only vouch for what I say and google will become your best friend if you know how to research. Why are you worried about the US? I thought you said you do not have any plans to come to the US. Your post don't make any sense at all.

yemiosinbajo:


I know such people. No one is saying they shouldn't come. I'm only saying they should plan well before coming. Hopefully there are some people reading who will start planning well before coming.

lefulefu:
Now this is the first reasonable post frm u.Plan well before travelling out.know if ur finances will be able to take u dat long.this post is diffrent from the earlier post u guys were posting that anybody who travels out will suffer and dat food is difficult for all manner of immgirants to get who are living in the US.

Babyvet:


Please repost the comment that Yemi made whereby he stated that it would be difficult to get food in America for immigrants.

lefulefu:
didnt u guys agreed with wat that lady on twitter said about food being difficult for her to see to eat. And dat in some weeks she's just on water? Why u changing ur stance now?

Babyvet:


I said repost the actual comments that either yemi or myself made about difficulty of finding food in America for immigrants.

Babyvet:


Exactly, apart from jobs, how do they get to drive and get their own accommodation. Even if you work under the table, you will be subjected to low wages( under minimum wage) and expected to work a crazy amount of hours. How long can one sustain that for? Even if your doing it to secure your children future, what happens if the parent is deported and the young American citizen children are left behind and no-one else is available to take care of them. We have been seeing more cases of that especially with Mexicans.

lefulefu:
Now this is the first reasonable post frm u.Plan well before travelling out.know if ur finances will be able to take u dat long.this post is diffrent from the earlier post u guys were posting that anybody who travels out will suffer and dat food is difficult for all manner of immgirants to get who are living in the US.

lefulefu:
u not in any position to tell me what to do.goodnight.

yemiosinbajo:


He has not even told us what his friend does that is 100% legit. I'm still waiting to hear that, so the not-so-smart ones like me can learn

yemiosinbajo:


Thanks for including the fact that you won't even be able to drive if you are illegal even if you have 1 million dollars to buy a car. I didn't even know this. There is a lot of suffering if one is illegal, but you become these people's enemies if you tell them. All they want to hear is, just come to America and everything will become paradise for you.

lefulefu:
visa application is not d issue. The issue is dat some of u guys come here to give false info. Like ur colleaue who was countered for exergerating. Same as some days ago some claiming to be in US was saying that TOFEL was what was required to gain admission. When i countered by saying a candidate needing to study in US or canada need to sit for SAT if he's going for a degree programme or if he's going for a Masters he has to sit for another exam(i have forgetten the name ) he said he hasnt heard of SAT.This was coming from someone who claimed he studied in a US college oo and he's working there.He has never heard of SAT. The admission officer in one or the schools i applied told me that its only non english speaking countries who sit for TOFEL and since i am frm nigeria i dont need TOFEL. But the nairalander said it was only europe and south africa who was exempted.what do i know? Maybe u guys could even be illegal immigrants forming posh for all i know.

lefulefu:
i just had to proof prove a fact that a number of u nairalanders who claim to reside abroad are liars cos a number of the aguements u guys give does not add water when verified and who said i was worrying about the US? I never said i was planning to travel there. Anybody here swallowing everything posted here without verifying first is openin himself for onechance. Nairaland is mostly full of lies.lumping everybody? Of course i can diffrenciate u from other posters. So wat are u talking about?

baby124:

Goodluck with that o! See your fantastic thinking. If only it was that easy.

Auladimeji:
It better to be poor in Nigeria than USA because those American lives on budget, they don't spend anyhow, they are taxed more,that's why relatives living abroad are always reluctant to send money home. I would be in Nigeria than USA if i'm not rich and don't know anybody

lefulefu:
visa application is not d issue. The issue is dat some of u guys come here to give false info. Like ur colleaue who was countered for exergerating. Same as some days ago some claiming to be in US was saying that TOFEL was what was required to gain admission. When i countered by saying a candidate needing to study in US or canada need to sit for SAT if he's going for a degree programme or if he's going for a Masters he has to sit for another exam(i have forgetten the name ) he said he hasnt heard of SAT.This was coming from someone who claimed he studied in a US college oo and he's working there.He has never heard of SAT. The admission officer in one or the schools i applied told me that its only non english speaking countries who sit for TOFEL and since i am frm nigeria i dont need TOFEL. But the nairalander said it was only europe and south africa who was exempted.what do i know? Maybe u guys could even be illegal immigrants forming posh for all i know.

yemiosinbajo:


Thanks for including the fact that you won't even be able to drive if you are illegal even if you have 1 million dollars to buy a car. I didn't even know this. There is a lot of suffering if one is illegal, but you become these people's enemies if you tell them. All they want to hear is, just come to America and everything will become paradise for you.