LordReed:
Does it not reinforce that belief?

First of all, let's call it the real name, homosexuality!. For me I think the comparison is off.

We were born in sin, that's correct, but that wasn't athe design or plan if God for man. Hence, Jesus came to redeem us, and restore us back to the original state.

Homosexuality or being gay, is a great error and confusion. The bible said, God made them male and female. Eve was made for Adam. Never accept homosexuality as normal thing, that's a lie from the devil. This was one of the reasons why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, and burned down the city with everything in it. God has not, and will never condone homosexuality.

Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

bedspread:
As many that hv come in contact with Him..
Personally I Have seen Soooo much ...
Deaf, dumb, blind, impotent, dwarf, Hunch back, lady with no urniary tract, cripple , Bareen.. I hv personally seen Many many of such being Healed ... I mean Total Healing..

You've seen dwarfs gain additional height? Wow! Was this documented, maybe by video perhaps?

MuttleyLaff:
Brother, dont get it twisted now.
Man, fundamentally and as a whole, homosexuality or no homosexuality, is a perversion of the natural order brother

Well, FYI (i.e. for your information), not everyone is into same sex relationships.
Also FYI, the total number of gays, in the world all over, is less than 10% of the world population

You clearly can see that procreation is not at any risk whatsoever of not taking place
Everyone needs and wants orgasms every now and then,
so those having it in opposite sexual relationships will likely end up with procreating

God hasnt got a problem with homosexuality being a deviation from the norm, so why you?

Nothing, at all, is horribly wrong with the psychology of the individual(s) involved
Stop that, it becoming clearer by the night, that you dont know anything about what you're trying to talk about concerning this subject

Have you forgotten that what's at hand, isn't a perfect world nor a 100% natural order, brother

Is something horribly wrong with the psychology of conjoined twins too? Hmm?
Is something horribly wrong with the psychology of hermaphrodite persons too? Hmm?

I ignored this in the beginning, but equating homosexuality with congenital disorders and birth deformities is quite disturbing. You sure say you well so?! abeg wetin concern sexual orientation with conjoined twins and people with birth defects?!

homosexuality is nothing more than an orientation. You are gay because you have been conditioned by influences to be gay. Like I said earlier, nobody is born gay. Nobody is born with a sexual orientation embedded in they psyche! It is a learned behavior, an aberrant one for that matter!

godliman:
Thanks for the info but I would rather strive to be angelic than animalistic

This is another topic altogether.

Animals have sex too.

LordReed:


You've seen dwarfs gain additional height? Wow! Was this documented, maybe by video perhaps?

sure... Live at THE LORDS CHOSEN CHARISMATIC REVIVAL MOVEMENT, IJESHA LAGOS

MuttleyLaff:
The truth and justice doesnt need sugar coating or twisting

There are quite a few things that were God's plan for Man, yet God allows it

Do you fly in the air? Are you a bird?
Do you swim at all? Are you a fish?

Oh c'mon brother. SMH.

What, in consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving , lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship
that has no detriment to, no betrayal of or no cheating on another person, is harmful, as many other harmful human tendencies?
Get a grip brother. Pull this with ease

Do you know the problem I have here with you ?

You can justify homosexuality with what ever you want,but take God out of the picture !

But,would you ? No !
You will still go to another thread & try to condemn atheist !

I wish they could see you're as deceived as they are,they wouldn't be taking you serious....

What does tattooing, that's consented,loving,no detrayal, or cheating in one another, termed harmful as other human tendencies ?

What is atheism ,that's loving,consented,no betrayal,committing,no cheating, & human caring,termed harmful as other human tendencies ?

What is masturbation,mind blowing,loving,no harm to your fellow human,no betrayal,no cheating,termed as harmful as other human tendencies ?

The Bible standards are not yours to make !
Your opinion would not matter at last !

bedspread:
Your Creator, who is also my Creator, the ALMIGHTY GOD gave us the Bible which is the study guide to Heaven... Everything that Governs our life is in there..

1john5:17 All unrighteousness is Sin.

Whatever we do against The Commandments given to us by our Creator is Sin..

Shut up.
Speak for yourself.
The Toothfairy created me, and has been putting money under my pillow since I was born. The book of children's Stories also confirm and affirm the divinity and benevolent grace of the Toothfairy to all mankind.

So,what nonsense are you talking about ?

LordReed:


The simple fact is that it is genetic.

Let me have the fact !
I don't need an assumption o..I need the 100% fact that homosexuality has being discovered in the human genetic coding..

Glycolysis:
Hence,I said earlier on,I still wonder people ( Christians,precisely) that takes you serious on nairaland....
God's plan for man is to go & procreate...though,legally.

If I'm single,and engages in sexual intercourse,even though i should be heterosexual,it's an inordinate desire I just fulfilled with the flesh...

If I'm married, then sexual intercourse with my spouse in God's plan for humanity...

On the case of homosexuality, both married & unmarried, is never God's plan for humanity....

You just ended up fulfilling the lust of the flesh...
Even if the whole world decide to legalize it, it's never still God's plan for human!

And God will not change His standards to fit into your lustful desire!

And I repeat again ;
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT GENETIC !

Or,you can keep comparing YOURSELF with sub humans to justify your point....
Good for you !

Do you know what?
Without being disrespectful, abusive, insulting or offensive, you're turning into a parrot, repeating and flicking cliche-ridden comments about

What is lust of the flesh?
Is there a lust of the flesh grade?
If there is what grade will gay person be?
Will it be greater or lower than the lust of the flesh Eve succumbed to?
No, lust of flesh is rare among consenting adults, in a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship.

Brother, farabale, farabale, farabale
What's the fear about?
Simmer down, you just need to begin to unlearn what you've learned, then relearn and learn all over again

You see, half of wisdom, is learning what lies of homosexuality, to unlearn

plaetton:

And which is the natural order for humans? Righthandedness or lefthandedness ?

Am I suppose to answer this?!

plaetton:

Shut up.
Speak for yourself.
The Toothfairy created me, and has been putting money under my pillow since I was born. The book of children's Stories also confirm and affirm the divinity and benevolent grace of the Toothfairy to all mankind.

So,what nonsense are you talking about ?

Young Man You are Creature of GOD ALMIGHTY....
He Loves you... and needs u to Surrender to Him....

He gave u the life u live
He gave u the breath u breathe...

At the end of Your Life you will give Account to him....

You hv no choice but to Follow Him

NPComplete:


Next time don't base your argument on stupid ignorance. Research before u make silly claims. Thank you as u comply.

It looks like insult is in your dna may God be gracious to you bros

chrisbaxtian:



Am I suppose to answer this?!

It's supposed to make you think a little deeper.
The argument that something is not of the natural order because it defies the conventional norm is very shallow thinking.
The white Europeans accepted and used same shallow logic to see and treat blacks as aberrations, cursed by god,less than human, etc . It took them several hundred years and millions of Negro lives , to come to accept blacks as fellow humans, and then another few hundred years to accord black people human rights and dignity.

It's extremely important that you remember that what you think or say about homosexuals were exactly what the Europeans, Americans and South African whites said about black Africans not too long ago.

plaetton:

It's supposed to make you think a little deeper.
The argument that something is not of the natural order because it defies the conventional norm is very shallow thinking.
The white Europeans accepted and used same shallow logic to see and treat blacks as aberrations, cursed by god,less than human, etc . It took them several hundred years and millions of Negro lives , to come to accept blacks as fellow humans, and then another few hundred years to accord black people human rights and dignity.

It's extremely important that you remember that what you think or say about homosexuals were exactly what the Europeans, Americans and South African whites said about black Africans not too long ago.

this is pseudointellectualism at a delusional level!

MuttleyLaff:
Do you know what?
Without being disrespectful, abusive, insulting or offensive, you're turning into a parrot, repeating and flicking cliche-ridden comments about

What is lust of the flesh?
Is there a lust of the flesh grade?
If there is what grade will gay person be?
Will it be greater or lower than the lust of the flesh Eve succumbed to?
No, lust of flesh is rare among consenting adults, in a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship.

Brother, farabale, farabale, farabale
What's the fear about?
Simmer down, you just need to begin to unlearn what you've learned, then relearn and learn all over again

You see, half of wisdom, is learning what lies of homosexuality, to unlearn

Without me being disrespectful,insultive & derogatory....you're sounding dumb & daft with your advice that I need go learning ,wider..especially, in the issue on discuss

I suppose ,you should go learn the Bible ,but these time,with the Holy spirit guidance..

My problem still is under the umbrella you're hiding to misguide & mislead souls .....

bedspread:
Young Man You are Creature of GOD ALMIGHTY....
He Loves you... and needs u to Surrender to Him....

He gave u the life u live
He gave u the breath u breathe...

At the end of Your Life you will give Account to him....

You hv no choice but to Follow Him

And what is so hard about giving account of one's life at the point or end of one's life. That's something for hypocrites to worry about.
In fact , I give account of my life each day before I go to sleep.
So far So good.
In fact, I would be more than happy to testify about the scam called religion and their delusion of a god.

chrisbaxtian:



this is pseudointellectualism at a delusional level!

Congratulations on your successful use of a big grammar.
I'm sure that you got my point.
If you didn't, then think harder.

plaetton:

And what is so hard about giving account of one's life at the point or end of one's life. That's something for hypocrites to worry about.
In fact , I give account of my life each day before I go to sleep.
So far So good.
In fact, I would be more than happy to testify about the scam called religion and their delusion of a god.

Many who talked and Boasted like u doing now hv died and are pleading for a 2nd Second Chance...
Bro there is no Short cut in life...

Without JESUS... life is a Mess...

If u reject JESUS today, once u cross over u must beg Him but it might be too late then

chrisbaxtian:



this is pseudointellectualism at a delusional level!

Congratulations on your successful use of a big grammar.

Bigotry , whether against homosexuals, against blacks, originates from the same cranial stems, featuring same level of ignorance, insecurity, hypocrisy, and anchored on the same silly beliefs in a silly god.

I'm sure that you get my point.
If you didn't, then think harder.

Glycolysis:

Let me have the fact !
I don't need an assumption o..I need the 100% fact that homosexuality has being discovered in the human genetic coding..

Start here:

https://bigthink.com/robby-berman/scientists-link-2-genes-to-homosexuality-in-men

bedspread:
sure... Live at THE LORDS CHOSEN CHARISMATIC REVIVAL MOVEMENT, IJESHA LAGOS

Please post the video link.

bedspread:
Many who talked and Boasted like u doing now hv died and are pleading for a 2nd Second Chance...
Bro there is no Short cut in life...

Without JESUS... life is a Mess...

If u reject JESUS today, once u cross over u must beg Him but it might be too late then

Lol.
I see obituaries of Christians every single day. Death is as natural as life, both complement each other. There must be death for there to be life.
So, it's very silly to use death as a threat to people who don't subscribe to those stone age middle east myths.

What I find funny is that when I go to the hospital , it is usually Christians that I see and hear praying fervently for death not to come.
Why ?
And what exactly did Jesus die to save you guys from again ?

LordReed:


Start here:

https://bigthink.com/robby-berman/scientists-link-2-genes-to-homosexuality-in-men

Comprehend what is written on that file I uploaded....
And secondly,it's against the will of Someone you don't believe in ; which I don't have issue with you on that, but don't try to make us believe that homosexuality in "normal"...

LordReed:
Does it not reinforce that belief?

Because God told me not to, though he is said to have written it rather unclearly in the Holy Bible which came to me through various edits and translations from an unclear archaic language no one speaks or writes anymore and which someone has preached to me and which I believe!

What the heck! Did you just ask me to use my brain and think for myself perhaps? May God forbid bad thing!

LordReed:
Does it not reinforce that belief?

Primesky:
First of all, let's call it the real name, homosexuality!. For me I think the comparison is off.

I am glad you brought up the matter of calling it its real name.
Unfortunately, homosexuality isnt its real name
In fact, the word homosexuality and/or homosexual, actually is a word that is barely 200 years old.

The word "homosexual" was invented in 1868, and the word "homosexuality" certainly was not around in Biblical times
Another fact, is that the word "homosexual" was first printed in a book in 1869, and then placed in the Bible in 1946.

Now this new information, begs the following questions
1/ What is the real name?
2/ What is or were the original words translated as "homosexual" or "homosexuality"?

Primesky:
We were born in sin, that's correct, but that wasn't the design or plan if God for man.
Hence, Jesus came to redeem us, and restore us back to the original state.

Homosexuality or being gay, is a great error and confusion.
The bible said, God made them male and female. Eve was made for Adam.
Never accept homosexuality as normal thing, that's a lie from the devil.

Homosexuality or being gay is few and far in between
Less than 10% of the 7.6 billion world population is gay

Homosexuality or being gay is an anomaly, God hasnt a problem with it

I am quite sure you "dont" lie
and you dont accept lying as a normal thing because the devil is a liar too.
Remember the lie to Eve

Primesky:
This was one of the reasons why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, and burned down the city with everything in it.
God has not, and will never condone homosexuality.

This is a lie from the pit of hell because it wasnt because sheer homosexuality that God had Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed.

The bible, in Ezekiel 16:48-50, lets us know that, the cup of God's wrath for Sodom and Gomorrah was full
because Sodom and Gomorrah was arrogant and spoiled;
they had everything they needed and still refused to help the poor and needy.
They thought they were better than everyone else, and that they did things God hates
(i.e. they committed abomination before God)

The $64,000 question is, stating clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt,
what correctly, is the committed abomination they did before God?
(i.e. what correctly, is the things they do/did, that God hates and/or detests?)
The person with the first right answer gets a prize

Primesky:
Romans
1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Booted penalty kick in to throw in, that is what happens when you are ill-informed
As a matter of fact, what happened in Romans 1:24-27 still happens in India

chrisbaxtian:
I ignored this in the beginning,
but equating homosexuality with congenital disorders and birth deformities is quite disturbing.
You sure say you well so?!
abeg wetin concern sexual orientation with conjoined twins and people with birth defects?!

Wasnt it first, you drawing a natural line demarcation?
Saying homosexuality is a deviation from the norm
and saying its a sign that something is horribly wrong with the psychology of the individual(s) involved.

Are you sure, you are well so, as it just seems you've suddenly developed amnesia
The cheek of it, telling me "You sure say you well so?!"

chrisbaxtian:
homosexuality is nothing more than an orientation.
You are gay because you have been conditioned by influences to be gay.

homosexuality is nothing more than an orientation,
same manner heterosexuality is nothing more than an orientation.
How are you gay because you have been conditioned by influences to be gay?
What influences, what are the influences that conditions a person to be gay? SMH

chrisbaxtian:
Like I said earlier, nobody is born gay.

Well you are wrong, some people are born gay.
Some people just arent attracted to the opposite sexes.

chrisbaxtian:
Nobody is born with a sexual orientation embedded in they psyche!

Well, wake up and smell the coffee, in the real world, some do

chrisbaxtian:
It is a learned behavior, an aberrant one for that matter!

I think you want to type, its a suppressed behaviour because of fear and societal pressure

Glycolysis:
Do you know the problem I have here with you?

I should be the least of the problems you have.
You should be worried with the problems you are having getting to know and understand the whole truth of this matter

Glycolysis:
You can justify homosexuality with what ever you want, but take God out of the picture!

But, would you? No!
You will still go to another thread & try to condemn atheist!

I wish they could see you're as deceived as they are,they wouldn't be taking you serious....
What does tattooing, that's consented, loving, no detrayal, or cheating in one another, termed harmful as other human tendencies?

Dont tell me that you dont know the historical reason, background and circumstances why God in Leviticus 19:28, was against tatooing?

Glycolysis:
What is atheism, that's loving, consented, no betrayal, committing, no cheating, & human caring, termed harmful as other human tendencies?

You're clutching straws with this incomprehensible sentence

Glycolysis:
What is masturbation, mind blowing, loving, no harm to your fellow human, no betrayal, no cheating, termed as harmful as other human tendencies?

You must be desperate,
you are now clawing at the dregs at the bottom of the drum with another incomprehensible sentence. SMH

Glycolysis:
The Bible standards are not yours to make!

Why isnt 2 Timothy 2:15 impressed on the mind?
We definitely wont be having this conversation if you had taken to the useful and informative advice in 2 Timothy 2:15.
Just do Acts 17:11, to whatever I post or comment about

Glycolysis:
Your opinion would not matter at last !

I dont do opinion(s).
I deal with truth(s) and fact(s)

Glycolysis:
Without me being disrespectful, insultive & derogatory....you're sounding dumb & daft with your advice that I need go learning ,wider..especially, in the issue on discuss

Wow, I must have hit on a raw nerve.
For you, I can sound dumb and daft for as long as you want me, need me or as long as is necessary to

Glycolysis:
I suppose, you should go learn the Bible, but these time, with the Holy spirit guidance...

I will put this down as a prayer wish on my prayer list, for you, to have Holy Spirit guidance.

Glycolysis:
My problem still is under the umbrella you're hiding to misguide & mislead souls .....

Your problem is you dont have any good reason or valid excuse, for saying, consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship
that has no detriment to, no betrayal of or no cheating on another person, is harmful, as many other harmful human tendencies

budaatum:
Because God told me not to

Because God told you not to what?

budaatum:
though he is said to have written it rather unclearly in the Holy Bible which came to me through various edits and translations from an unclear archaic language no one speaks or writes anymore and which someone has preached to me and which I believe!

Ignorance is death, but knowledge is power.
Ever heard of 2 Timothy 2:15 at all?

budaatum:
What the heck!
Did you just ask me to use my brain and think for myself perhaps? May God forbid bad thing!

Yes it called having a living existence

enilove:
Everyone was born as a sinner but must not remain a sinner .
Every gay must repent .

Romans 1:27 KJV
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

A clearer version CEV
Men behaved in the same way. They stopped wanting to have sex with women and had strong desires for sex with other men. They did shameful things with each other, and what has happened to them is punishment for their foolish deeds.

plaetton:

Lol.
I see obituaries of Christians every single day. Death is as natural as life, both complement each other. There must be death for there to be life.
So, it's very silly to use death as a threat to people who don't subscribe to those stone age middle east myths.

What I find funny is that when I go to the hospital , it is usually Christians that I see and hear praying fervently for death not to come.
Why ?
And what exactly did Jesus die to save you guys from again ?

Death is not a big deal... The Big deal is your Next Destination after Death...
This Earth is a Pathway for us all to the Main Life which is Forever and Ever..
The Decision you make now will determine the next destination...

If you Reject JESUS Now... you will definitely beg him on the other side, but it could be too late...

LordReed:


Please post the video link.

Search for the Lords chosen on YouTube

Accepting Gays into any Society is for God to decide. Cast your Burden unto Christ and you'll have Rest.