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| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 6:58pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks:whew, thank u. just wanted to be sure! PS, u have loyalists and opportunists hovering around u..... some see u as an opportunity to get back at Gazuzz either for not taking their calls, not working on their cars (pre 02),or not giving them Xmas gift...... choose ur allies well, cos when they are done with Gazuzz...... ur own fault finding comes next..... what's the easiest thing to find? FAULT! happy swift delivery in advance and happy rebuilding |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by thebigkendo(m): 6:59pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by Piyke: 6:59pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Sorry guys have been deep undercover... radio silence...somewhere in Afghanistan doing a recon OP. Like military/special ops jargon. Lol. Mention not working well it seems. ![]() Anyways came to NL and had 138 followed topics and most are from this thread. Took me quite some time to catch up. Everyone has their business model and both repair, replace and rebuild will continue to have business in Nigeria. Fact. Jesus said... The poor you will have with you always... Even Kazeems will continue to have business! Who will fix all the rough taxi's, danfo etc that roam around town? All the 3 R's have their place. Personally, I favor rebuilds ; cost is not a major factor, but that's me. I also respect another who will choose to replace. Both parties will agree that there's a whole lot of irresponsible engine replacements going on. Including heavy kazimization e.g. a peugeot engine in a Nissan and the lot ![]() I am sure that some people have had engines replaced for simple fixes such as a blocked PCV valve. I think it was Egunmogaji that talked about a friend that rebuilt an engine because of wrong use of a compression gauge. At the end of the day, take home message is the need to be methodical and thorough about which ever decision is reached and ensure all options are laid before the client for an informed decision. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by diportivo: 7:05pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
MotoMedics:uncle kunle talk plenty plenty about he not using toks part and dis and dat when jungle mature finish,Baba gan wo line straight ni ![]() naija go humble u sha ni ![]() |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 7:06pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
thebigkendo:shuoooooo really nice.... only LG has done me well oh. my home theater went bad gave it to them with an ultimatum, 2days of repair or my money back.... they delivered. Jumia on the other hand...... long story I was supposed to install an inverter in abakaliki, made the orders.... they took longer than usual and when they came.... it wasn't the product I ordered for.... a freaking large screen instead of a simple 5kva inverter........ lost the contract..... called jumia and all I got was "wait small" which turned out to wait large..... another thing is time is a very important factor to me, I have a serious issue with patience.... so I am usually found frolicking with impatience....... so when a claim goes bad (in a short while due to incompetence or negligence) and more time is needed to fix it I get pretty irate...... it's a programming defect.... I can't control it. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 7:06pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
MotoMedics:6 months in this case. Our warranties range from 3-12 months. I think I mentioned somewhere that if a job like this does three months, it will go years. I've addressed the parts on another thread. People are not obligated to buy parts from us and we've actually recommended two or three other parts sellers on Nairaland. I'm not sure how it will benefit us to sell but not do proper repairs. The parts will keep coming back and bankrupt us! Glen supervises and trains. He won't fix most cars. We hire only techs and not mechanics which is why we currently only have three despite dozens of applications. We will add three more on by the end of the year if we find some that meet our criteria. All three can do rebuilds, etc but require training with updated tools to varying degrees. E.g. using our parts clean machine instead of petrol to clean parts, using our disc turning/skimming machine, transmission and engine oil flush machines, alignment machine, tire changer and balancer etc. Believe it or not, most of our repairs so far have required more labor than parts so it's really not about the parts with us. It's about quality work and as you said, time will tell. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 7:10pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:Your still dey talk 70%. I keep telling you na 100% lol. You too like me ![]() |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by thebigkendo(m): 7:10pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto: reason why I no dey order phone online.. I go to the physical store, confirm the imei number on parkaging & phone Some phones actually don't have warrantee in Nigeria Eg I when to a phone shop to get galaxy S8.. I was given 2 options, same phone with same spec oh, but one with 24 months warranty was 30k more expensive than the non warranty phone.. Same phone but none warrantee was bought from dubai, warranty phone was bought from Samsung Nigeria.. So imagine I ordered online.. I will .. And then next month I go go Samsung office dey claim warrantee.. Na police go pursue me komot ![]() I will then open thread on nairaland.. Samsung/phone shop do not honor warranty |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 7:12pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
diportivo:Haaaaaaa, if naija no humble u.... no country can.... no be that our new corolla owner wey buy toks Don begin manage wheel hub or so..... and we all said don't manage, don't manage ...... full maintenance... valid maintenance etc...... no b by keyboard oh, when jungle mature ehn.. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by thebigkendo(m): 7:20pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
diportivo:Uncle kunle dey mainland.. Aunty Radu they lekki If you know, you know ![]() |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by MotoMedics: 7:45pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:You are correct sir. See, let no one deceive you, everyone puts out the word of transparence, honesty and competence. The real deal is, no set up is set out to do losses. Labor is ridiculously cheap in Nigeria, standard auto repair comes at a cost, and they don't come cheap. There are many dynamics to car repair, and every job order is to b treated individually. There is no one way to anything, as long as standard process is followed. Time. Time. Time. Like you emphasized too. Truth is, an engine swap is the convinient route and other times, it not taken because of convenience but because it is best bet. Glen is not going to do all the job. Kazeems with coverall that will rather use bare floor than worktables will do the job. Forget all the English. We must not also be rigid to change. Automedics had an impact on the Nigerian automotive space. I also believe Radautoworks with her gusto will also do even better. Gradually we will get there. Autoelectng albeit has been so sure of an outlet that has been in operation for less than 4 months on this shores. Time. Time. Time |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by MotoMedics: 7:57pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
diportivo:Hahahahahahaha. Albeit, uncle Kunle no get time again. Kosere Nobody go teach you, when you change brand new oem(na wetin dem talk) plugs finish. And you come confuse, where this misfire is coming from. Only to put back the ones you comot and car is fine. Wetin eye don see |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by MotoMedics: 8:00pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks:Wow. More grease. The irunmanles of the land will favor you |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by AutoElectNG: 8:11pm On Aug 25, 2018*. Modified: 9:40pm On Aug 26, 2018 |
MotoMedics:Time will tell if the due diligence I followed was faulty. Secondly, America sets so many automotive standards that the world follows. Think OBD II for example. Think of the California's Bureau of Automotive Repair. Think of the standards for collision repair in the Americas. I too have undergone ASE education. So I will naturally gravitate towards the American way of doing things. I think we would benefit more if we did not fight radautoworks but tried to learn from her ------------------------------ MODIFIED BELOW ----------------------------- For the academically inclined among us: Ignore America or more accurately California's disproportionate influence over the automotive industry at your own peril https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-cant-do-approach-of-the-american-auto-industry_us_58d8fb3de4b0f633072b3979 There is another important paper worth reading it is entitled: "The road to 2020 and beyond: What’s driving the global automotive industry?" and it is published by McKinsey&Company, look for it and download it with your favorite search engine Will we also fight Egunmogaji if he were were to post about his methods here? Or are we fighting raduatoworks because she is american? Or because she is no technician but a knowledgeable nonetheless? Or she is a woman in a man's world? Or is this a turf war in the making? Parting shot: The automotive market is a global one not a local one, in plain language, we don't set standards, we follow them. We have a choice to be a local champion or an international star, I would rather be the later, and it begins and ends with the standards we choose to align ourselves with, whether they be local or global.
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| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by asamwababy: 8:25pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
So na unto aunty radautos matter all these grown men dey knack teeth like this. Replace Engine Nig Ltd gang. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by MotoMedics: 8:26pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
AutoElectNG:Brah. Na we for naija they repair plenty things. America go replace. Who has the time. You do know the standard for service are dealerships. You should go through forums and see how American dealerships are fairing, and see their job orders. Ko si time. DIY geeks lo di Street Mu. They are the mechanics. I love this development. And I don't want to sound like, you know wev been through this path. When works enter finish, you go drop spanners and carry pen. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 8:28pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:Thanks for the advice. There are opportunists everywhere indeed. Thanks for well wishes. I swear this baby's first words will either be "Rebuild" or "Nairaland" at this point LMAO |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by Nobody: 8:49pm On Aug 25, 2018*. Modified: 11:40pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
AutoElectNG:Oh they’ve beat me black and blue already on here. Just last night someone called me a backyard mechanic ![]() Very little of my client will come from Nairaland so I’m content with just beer parlor gists on here mostly ![]() |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by AutoElectNG: 8:50pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Piyke:not all techies and mechanics are doing that right now...even on nairaland....the options are rarely spelt out for the client...instead it seems to be one option is laid out...the clients' on the other hand don't even realize they have a right to a second opinion and even a third opinion, and tend to search for the position of an all-wise all-knowing automotive god whose words are the final authority of all things automotive, like the supreme court is the final destination for some cases ...when from everything I have learnt, no one knows it all in this field and with the rapid advances, even the pros are having a hard time keeping up with all the changes from all corners of the tradeI think if nothing else, the client now knows that with engines, he has options of rebuilding, replacing or repairing and should get position statements from at least 3 different techies before committing to a decision on the way forward https://www.nairaland.com/4617920/how-california-ensures-sanity-automotive#69390091 |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 9:22pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
EgunMogaji: i'm not sure he meant offence though lol. I think it was more props to your skills no matter the environment. He would never do Egun Baba like that. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by AutoElectNG: 9:24pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
EgunMogaji:I think this is going to be my style as well going forward....is not the quantity, it is the quality that matters more, and most certainly, you are no backyard mechanic |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by Nobody: 9:31pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
AutoElectNG:Thank you Sir. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by thebigkendo(m): 9:31pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
I am actually more interested in the team Replace newly registered nairaland account ![]() I know so many people are waiting for Aunty Radu first scandal relating to motor coming back to the shop before/after warrantee for another Rebuild. That thread is gonna be fire!!!! |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by diportivo: 9:52pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
see this one don start him plenty grammar for here ![]() btw,who is fighting aunty radu here ![]() it's cartalk,and people on two sides of a divide are talking sense....those of us that will learn will learn...those dat will get emotional will be alright last last ![]()
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| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 10:09pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
diportivo:bro I tire OH, I think we need to analyze the comprehension capability of people entering this online forums..... which one is fighting again? and if it's a fight, is it their fight? they should wait their turn now.... must u be outright? now we are trying to stall n quench the small friendly fire, someone wakes up by 9pm and says good morning? SMH and PS..... more than half of our collective clientele will come from nairaland...... directly or indirectly...... I know how many people I have requested to either create or activate their online profiles on nl because of one moniker or another. cc aninweze the fact that u don't see people come to u and say I'm from nairaland doesn't mean they are not in one way or the other linked to one nl moniker.... let's not go there abeg, na this kain tin dey vex me. PS if we wanna try it.... look for someone's moniker(a starter) let's tarnish it and see the ripple effect ....if that person doesn't already have established customer base, the survival chances will be very slim. egunmogaji baba, abeg this doesn't apply to u.... u already have "the " customer base cos of some odd factor. one thing about business u cannot take away is publicity, mostly by referrals.... have one or two major mouths in any society make negative publicity for u and see the ripple effect.... bottomline, don't underestimate the Nairaland power... except u want to advertise ur garage or workshop on African Magic |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by AutoElectNG: 10:17pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
The picture below may be useful to one or more viewers/authors on this thread If there was no fight, why did some say it was getting personal? Why did words like you are condescending come into play? And why did more than one person suggest a truce with the use of the word "stop"? It is clear that on this thread there was a fight between team(gang) rebuild and team (gang) replace A fight doesn't have to be physical...my decision not to participate does not mean that I have not followed it all through but for personal reasons have decided not to get into the fray
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| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 10:18pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
AutoElectNG:OK sir, once again Good morning |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by AutoElectNG: 10:26pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
AutoElectNG:Good Night, it seems I was here from the very beginning, High Chief Obekediamondfuto, may I be excused for the night! |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 10:32pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
AutoElectNG:u r the boss na, after someone commented u con decide to follow am........ test every spirit test them.... not every one that comes...come in my name! u r the boss..... the "fight "is over...... u for quench am when it was getting to a fight na.... haba mba ke demeanor idagha do.... in ibibio.... so mbok mfana ibagha |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by weyreypey: 10:34pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
AutoElectNG:You know the modus operandi |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by diportivo: 10:39pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:
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| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by Kashif(m): 10:44pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks:If you really think you can change the entire repair environment here, more power to you. You are trying hard to drive your vision, but I think you are beginning to over do it. You reply to everything, emphasising how prepared you are, how you did not come here to joke, etc. To be honest, you may be unconsciously doing yourself some disservice. The taste of the pudding is in the eating. Somebody already said the easy thing to do is to pick faults, and I echo that. You can never probe an anus without coming up with poo. I remember the story about the tortoise who went to steal from his in-law's house. He let the case turn against him because he pursued revenge excessively. You have a business model; work with it, and ignore what others are doing that works for them. No need for this endless jabs. You CANNOT solve the auto repair problem in Naija; you can only carve a niche for yourself. Ka Chineke mezie okwu! |
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...when from everything I have learnt, no one knows it all in this field and with the rapid advances, even the pros are having a hard time keeping up with all the changes from all corners of the trade
