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damilola8775:
I hope that the times of old will be back again.

medzzzy:
Hi guys...which is better... Lasts or Keith Moore for gross anatomy, guyton or gannong for physiology and Moore or saddlers for embryology? And what are he reasons...thanks so much guys

medzzzy:
Hi guys...which is better... Lasts or Keith Moore for gross anatomy, guyton or gannong for physiology and Moore or saddlers for embryology? And what are he reasons...thanks so much guys

Stephansmily:
Having used both Saddler and Moore, I've come to a conclusion that no textbook of Embryology beats Vishram Singh's textbook. This book's description is everything, it is well spaced(unlike Saddler),has more clinical correlates and easy to sketch diagrams.

Acecube:
please is there soft copy for it ?

Stephansmily:
Of course, I haven't even seen a hard copy of it.

Acecube:
wow... Hope it is not too heavy, if it isn't can you tell me the name, so I can search for it online to download

charleymed:
MY ADVICE TO THE NEWEST PRECLINICAL STUDENTS.

Congratulations to you all. I'm using ISIs and venmotors as a point of contact.
In as much as I would like to commend you all for a job well done, passing the premed and moving on to the promise land, I also want to reiterate that your journey to becoming a doctor/dentist just got started. Premed is notorious for painting the wrong picture of what the medical school truly entails, and the earlier you begin to disinhibit your senses from the euphoria of your premed accomplishments, the better med school might be for you. It's no longer a myth that the correlation between premed and medical school proper is almost nonexistent or very thin so to say, that's why in places like the USA one can study music at premed and still doing very well in medical school. Indeed, Medical school is an entirely very different 'pot of soup' not similar to anything you've ever come across before. Your degrees in pharmacology, pharmacy, anatomy, biochemistry, physiology etc, often becomes redundant once you set your foot into medical school.
Things are just different here and even the military can't boast of such rigour and organisation. That's medical school for you.

Learn to be serious: One important mistake preclinical students often repeat is the culture of taking things for granted. This is often orchestrated by the fact that most of us started reading even before the commencement of lectures or even worse, when we already have a degree in one of the preclinical subjects, let say anatomy. This often makes us feel there's no need learning "flexion and extention" since we already knew the circle of Willis. Attitudes like this often leaves us less attentive in class especially when very simple concept are being discussed, because we feel they are too simple and doesn’t deserve our time. The problem here is not that anybody will ever ask you flexion and extension in exams, but that we are starting on a wrong footing, which is "inattentiveness" in the the class. This often results to more episodes of inattentiveness, until it becomes a habit. Don't even make the mistake of thinking that you get serious when more difficult concepts are discussed, often at times it results in a vicious cycle, where you continously see every concept being discussed as below your standard. In as much as I will like to advice you to start reading as early as your premed days, please whenever you're in class, always keep your knowledge aside and pay close attention to whatever concept the lecturer is discussing, that way you will get the opportunity of adding more to your knowledge and becoming better. Seek knowledge like a hungry lion, don't ever take anything for granted in medical school.

Your style of studying: I have to talk about this because it's very clear that most medical students especially preclinical students do not know how to and what to study at any instance. The problem here is not that we don't have a good reading culture and cannot not 'jack' till day break. No, the issues pertains to the fact that we don't study smart. Earlier on this page, I shared an experience of how I studied with last anatomy and clinched a distinction in anatomy. We all need to understand that MBBS is an undergraduate degree and as such we have to make studying more appealing and realistic, not cumbersome as though we are doing PhD. Sincerely, there's no sense in reading Keith Moore or guyton cover to cover, apart from the fact that you barely have time for that, it's very difficult to retain information in such books. Your aim should be, retaining as much information as possible not filling your room with big books. Pick a single textbook that's concise and straight to the point, then kill yourself on it. Repetition is the key to knowledge, so why not choose reading ganong for a third time, when your peers are still yet to finish Guyton for the first time. Who do you think will be better of? Also, another important blunder I have seen most medical student commit, is reading too many textbooks at a time. My brother you will end up confusing yourself and burning up your energy for nothing. Sincerely, you don't need so many resources, just master one and make others your reference resources. There are other ways we learn in medical school, lectures, practical sessions, tutorials, and even online. Explore this alternatives, and don't kill your self on tons of BIG BOOKS. You should know that the best student is not he who has tons of textbooks, but he who has tons of information.

Setting goals: We should all learn this. I'm happy whenever I meet young preclinical students talking about how they want to get distinction in all the subjects. This is a very good way to kick off your medical school. Set goals, even high falutin ones. One important thing about setting goals as this is that, it keeps you on your heels always, you might not be able to acheive most of these goals at the end of the day, let say getting a distinction, but for sure you will never struggle in medical school. There's a very thin line between passing and failing in med school, unfortunately everyone is predisposed to this two spectrums. But passing becomes normal and natural, when you set goals far higher than just to pass. You will discover that when people are running helter scelter during an MBBS exams, you will calm because the worse that can happen to you is to pass.
Another aspect that you shouldn't ignore is working on these goals and bringing them into fruition. It takes great efforts, and at no time should ever deviate. Fight to the end, and you will reap the fruit of your labour.

Handling success and failure: Both success and failures could be a double edge sword, and you should be careful which edge you've choose at a particular time. Handling success in medical school is very paramount. If you mismanage your raining days, be rest assured you will plunge yourself into dry season prematurely. Whenever you do very well in a test or an exams, please learn to be humble, remain focused and fix your eyes on the price. Whatever success you acheive should act as a catalyst for more success, more like a positive feedback. But I have discovered that people often allow there success get into their heads, and you shouldn't be found in such category. Whenever you do well a test, you become popular and the next is that everyone wants to be your friend, you begin to organise tutorials, moving from pillar to post, always on the go. I'm not saying you shouldn't share your knowledge with your peers, off course you should, but don't develop short term memory as to how you arrived at your point of success. Don't abandon your books because you felt you've arrived. It will surely backfire. Handle success with care in other to acheive more sucees. Failure on the other hand should be handled with upmost care. Never dwell on your failure. When you don't get it right, forge ahead with good spirit and determination to get it right the next time. Never look back at your failure and don't ever get depressed because you failed.

Dissociate yourself from toxic people: There are this category of people that always see the negative side of everything. It will do you alot of good never to found yourself mixing up with such people. They will infect you and soon you will become like them. Discover people that see the two sides of everything, and make them your friends, if you must have any. Be with people that inspire you always, people that share similar dreams with you, that way you will enjoy medical school. More importantly, never allow people's negative opinions get to you, especially when you are doing well. People often mock excellence and excellent individuals, and you should get used to the fact that their opinions has no bearing on your life. Shame them with more success and excellence, that's their remedy.

Get involved: Finally, don't be carried away by the rigour of medical school. Get involved in other things. Broaden your knowledge.
Try sports, politics, history, art, movies. Be refreshed all the time. Because the best doctor is one who knows little about everything.

I wish you all the best.

Stephansmily:
It's not heavy. Textbook of Clinical Embryology by Vishram Singh.

Brukx:
Keith vs Last; Keith is a wonderful book. It's very rich In clinical notes and contains comprehensive diagrams. Last on the other hand looks quite disoriented(just my opinion though). The choice is yours

Ganong VA Guyton; These are both wonderful textbooks. Guyton is very rich in facts and figures. same goes with Ganong. But I feel Ganong seems to miss the point at times(based on the mbbs syllabus)

Keith vs Saddler

Keith was a professor of Human Anatomy. Saddler on the other hand was a professor of Embryology .

I think you should read 2 topics fr each then weigh out your preferences

Stephansmily:
Having used both Saddler and Moore, I've come to a conclusion that no textbook of Embryology beats Vishram Singh's textbook. This book's description is everything, it is well spaced(unlike Saddler),has more clinical correlates and easy to sketch diagrams.

medzzzy:
Thanks..I guess its online

medzzzy:
Hi guys...which is better... Lasts or Keith Moore for gross anatomy, guyton or gannong for physiology and Moore or saddlers for embryology? And what are he reasons...thanks so much guys

ARCHEMEDESME:
How much anatomy do pharmacy students do

charleymed:
MY ADVICE TO THE NEWEST PRECLINICAL STUDENTS.

Congratulations to you all. I'm using ISIs and venmotors as a point of contact.
In as much as I would like to commend you all for a job well done, passing the premed and moving on to the promise land, I also want to reiterate that your journey to becoming a doctor/dentist just got started. Premed is notorious for painting the wrong picture of what the medical school truly entails, and the earlier you begin to disinhibit your senses from the euphoria of your premed accomplishments, the better med school might be for you. It's no longer a myth that the correlation between premed and medical school proper is almost nonexistent or very thin so to say, that's why in places like the USA one can study music at premed and still doing very well in medical school. Indeed, Medical school is an entirely very different 'pot of soup' not similar to anything you've ever come across before. Your degrees in pharmacology, pharmacy, anatomy, biochemistry, physiology etc, often becomes redundant once you set your foot into medical school.
Things are just different here and even the military can't boast of such rigour and organisation. That's medical school for you.

Learn to be serious: One important mistake preclinical students often repeat is the culture of taking things for granted. This is often orchestrated by the fact that most of us started reading even before the commencement of lectures or even worse, when we already have a degree in one of the preclinical subjects, let say anatomy. This often makes us feel there's no need learning "flexion and extention" since we already knew the circle of Willis. Attitudes like this often leaves us less attentive in class especially when very simple concept are being discussed, because we feel they are too simple and doesn’t deserve our time. The problem here is not that anybody will ever ask you flexion and extension in exams, but that we are starting on a wrong footing, which is "inattentiveness" in the the class. This often results to more episodes of inattentiveness, until it becomes a habit. Don't even make the mistake of thinking that you get serious when more difficult concepts are discussed, often at times it results in a vicious cycle, where you continously see every concept being discussed as below your standard. In as much as I will like to advice you to start reading as early as your premed days, please whenever you're in class, always keep your knowledge aside and pay close attention to whatever concept the lecturer is discussing, that way you will get the opportunity of adding more to your knowledge and becoming better. Seek knowledge like a hungry lion, don't ever take anything for granted in medical school.

Your style of studying: I have to talk about this because it's very clear that most medical students especially preclinical students do not know how to and what to study at any instance. The problem here is not that we don't have a good reading culture and cannot not 'jack' till day break. No, the issues pertains to the fact that we don't study smart. Earlier on this page, I shared an experience of how I studied with last anatomy and clinched a distinction in anatomy. We all need to understand that MBBS is an undergraduate degree and as such we have to make studying more appealing and realistic, not cumbersome as though we are doing PhD. Sincerely, there's no sense in reading Keith Moore or guyton cover to cover, apart from the fact that you barely have time for that, it's very difficult to retain information in such books. Your aim should be, retaining as much information as possible not filling your room with big books. Pick a single textbook that's concise and straight to the point, then kill yourself on it. Repetition is the key to knowledge, so why not choose reading ganong for a third time, when your peers are still yet to finish Guyton for the first time. Who do you think will be better of? Also, another important blunder I have seen most medical student commit, is reading too many textbooks at a time. My brother you will end up confusing yourself and burning up your energy for nothing. Sincerely, you don't need so many resources, just master one and make others your reference resources. There are other ways we learn in medical school, lectures, practical sessions, tutorials, and even online. Explore this alternatives, and don't kill your self on tons of BIG BOOKS. You should know that the best student is not he who has tons of textbooks, but he who has tons of information.

Setting goals: We should all learn this. I'm happy whenever I meet young preclinical students talking about how they want to get distinction in all the subjects. This is a very good way to kick off your medical school. Set goals, even high falutin ones. One important thing about setting goals as this is that, it keeps you on your heels always, you might not be able to acheive most of these goals at the end of the day, let say getting a distinction, but for sure you will never struggle in medical school. There's a very thin line between passing and failing in med school, unfortunately everyone is predisposed to this two spectrums. But passing becomes normal and natural, when you set goals far higher than just to pass. You will discover that when people are running helter scelter during an MBBS exams, you will calm because the worse that can happen to you is to pass.
Another aspect that you shouldn't ignore is working on these goals and bringing them into fruition. It takes great efforts, and at no time should ever deviate. Fight to the end, and you will reap the fruit of your labour.

Handling success and failure: Both success and failures could be a double edge sword, and you should be careful which edge you've choose at a particular time. Handling success in medical school is very paramount. If you mismanage your raining days, be rest assured you will plunge yourself into dry season prematurely. Whenever you do very well in a test or an exams, please learn to be humble, remain focused and fix your eyes on the price. Whatever success you acheive should act as a catalyst for more success, more like a positive feedback. But I have discovered that people often allow there success get into their heads, and you shouldn't be found in such category. Whenever you do well a test, you become popular and the next is that everyone wants to be your friend, you begin to organise tutorials, moving from pillar to post, always on the go. I'm not saying you shouldn't share your knowledge with your peers, off course you should, but don't develop short term memory as to how you arrived at your point of success. Don't abandon your books because you felt you've arrived. It will surely backfire. Handle success with care in other to acheive more sucees. Failure on the other hand should be handled with upmost care. Never dwell on your failure. When you don't get it right, forge ahead with good spirit and determination to get it right the next time. Never look back at your failure and don't ever get depressed because you failed.

Dissociate yourself from toxic people: There are this category of people that always see the negative side of everything. It will do you alot of good never to found yourself mixing up with such people. They will infect you and soon you will become like them. Discover people that see the two sides of everything, and make them your friends, if you must have any. Be with people that inspire you always, people that share similar dreams with you, that way you will enjoy medical school. More importantly, never allow people's negative opinions get to you, especially when you are doing well. People often mock excellence and excellent individuals, and you should get used to the fact that their opinions has no bearing on your life. Shame them with more success and excellence, that's their remedy.

Get involved: Finally, don't be carried away by the rigour of medical school. Get involved in other things. Broaden your knowledge.
Try sports, politics, history, art, movies. Be refreshed all the time. Because the best doctor is one who knows little about everything.

I wish you all the best.

James150:
My people i went and bought invisible teacher of jamb use of eng 2012/13 edition and i just realized there is 2015/16 edition
so what now do i need too do i still have to look for that new edition?

zeezaa:
my sister's score
jamb score 304
post ume score 340
aggregate 322
yet was not given admission in UNN medicine and surgery

medzzzy:
Hi guys...which is better... Lasts or Keith Moore for gross anatomy, guyton or gannong for physiology and Moore or saddlers for embryology? And what are he reasons...thanks so much guys

Pes13:
I would take Keith Moore anytime any day over any textbook for gross anatomy.

Though your taste and reading pattern should dictate your choice of textbook.

But Keith is reader friendly, wonderful illustrations, and it is interesting to read..

Guyton and Moore are good textbooks for physiology and embryology respectively.

Kimsokrates:
Anatomy:I will go with Keith Moore anytime anyday because It is easy to read and understand.It is also tailored to clinical practices.
physiology:I will go with guyton because it encompasses a lot of knowledge relevant to clinical practice.But I will advise you to also keep a ganong textbook too for "extra knowledge"that may come in handy.I was surprised you did not mention essential physiology textbook.Though,it is more exam oriented than clinical oriented,it is also good read too because it simplifies most physiological concepts.But never make essential physiology your primary physiology textbook unless it is what your lecturer recommend.It should be secondary to either guyton or ganong depending on your lecturer's preference
Embryology:I used both Moore and saddler.But I will unequivocally tell you to go for Moore embryology because it is more reader friendly than saddler.Moore embryology is also most lecturers'choice.

Pes13:
I would take Keith Moore anytime any day over any textbook for gross anatomy.

Though your taste and reading pattern should dictate your choice of textbook.

But Keith is reader friendly, wonderful illustrations, and it is interesting to read..

Guyton and Moore are good textbooks for physiology and embryology respectively.

medzzzy:
Thanks a lot. I didn't mention essentials because I'm trying to decide which will be my primary textbook
How about histology(junqueira,wheaters or difoire) ,biochemistry(lippincotts,harpers or marks) and neuroanatomy(Snell's or)?