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| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Drogo(m): 8:58pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
Is the writer even sure the so called 'doctors' that was seen at d private hospitals are qualified doctors.. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by bammy777(m): 9:15pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
worlexy:I pray this does not happen to your loved ones. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Ogaonos: 10:15pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
bammy777:no mind am I suspect na medicinal person. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Ogaonos: 10:26pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
Shey u c y one rely on God heavily.because govt no go do jack doctors too wack nd lik moni eh imagine I cut my leg go private hospital na 5k b their card.na 15k I pay afta I beg d doctor about d card d guy use style add am 2 d total bill.police no gud u c y u cum c reason 2 dey religious.i laugh wen sum nairalanders dey gullible dey follow sum foolish atheist and DT OAP freeze wer get moni 2 jet out 2 treat himsef while u dey nija.so who our police na God our doctor na God.we need God my pple and geiuine pastor(s) imagine dis kind thin happen 2 u during dis buhari tym which moni u wan use pay doctor wen u dey scratch 2 chop.meanwhile u get genuine man of God and ur prayers 2 prevent such accident |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by stagger: 10:30pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
Jaqenhghar:I don't argue with idiots who can't even spell the nationality of their own country. One of my neighbours who is a doctor just left for the UK last month. There are thousands like her leaving Nigeria for the UK, US, Australia and other locations MONTHLY! Fools like you never bother to get your facts straight. That is why I say Nigeria is UNFIXABLE. Leaders of this country can afford to send their kids and themselves abroad on a moment's notice. I know someone who was evacuated from an accident scene and paid $12,000 an hour to a helicopter company in PH. These are the ones who can afford it. But people like you who are stuck in Nigeria are not bothered about the rot in the system that is driving our doctors out of the country by the thousands. May we never get to where Liberia is now, where there are less than 70 doctors in the entire country. That is why when Ebola hit Liberia, it hit them hard, and one of them decided to carry his illness to Nigeria and ended causing the death of Dr Adadevoh and several others. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by arinzest: 10:31pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
Doctor bashing; nairaland's favorite pastime Well I must commend the OP for helping, frankly after my experience in 2010 at the hands of the police, I would never carry a bleeding patient in my car. As a military officer, I would expect that you perform basic first response stuff like bracing the neck, tourniquet, etc. Could have made a difference. The patient you described needed a level 3 trauma care which I doubt you could have received in a peripheral hospital except tertiary ones like St Nicholas, Reddington, Eko and the rest. Although the doctor should have referred you promptly instead of using cash to scare you off. On the issue of payment before "saving a life", talk is cheap. No private facility is for charity, it's a business with families depending on it. Scream all you want, without universal health insurance, health care is not cheap. Before the "good guys" come for me, how many times have you gone to hospitals to help pay bills accumulated by indigent patients? Am an ObGyn specialist in a mission hospital. Just came out of theatre for an obstetric hysterectomy on a patient that is yet to pay 1000 naira folder. Yes we intervene because the church in part pays the overhead and philanthropists also help out. But frankly it's being abused. I have about 3 patients still stuck with bills, pregnant women brought to the hospital by family members with NOTHING. pregnancy is not an emergency but in 9 months, you saved nothing. I know that at some point the hospital would not be able to sustain it cos it's designed to the self sufficient. it's the kindness of the Bishop, the board and the irregular stipends from the state government that helps her help these people. Recently, a parent sued the same hospital for "keeping them hostage ". A barrister (that could not pay the bills) sued a hospital, a judge ruled against the hospital. A parent brought a very sick child without paying a lobotomy, was treated, baby died, parents now decided payment is unnecessary. Talk is cheap. Also laughable is the statement that Nigerian doctors are quacks. the NHS is manned by Indian and Nigerian doctors. I presently have 3 offers, three COS from 3 different UK Trusts. Leave the politicians stealing your common wealth, keep running after the doctors and medical staff. Hope you would still have those to bash available in few years |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by arinzest: 10:36pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by delerx(m): 10:42pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
Is it not people with jobs that will pay for health insurance. Is it that mama selling roasted plaintain or that orange seller on the road that will insure his or her life. Nigeria is a failed entity eleojo23: |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Asu015(m): 10:44pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
Jaqenhghar:go overseas and see how nigerian trained doctor's are performing....... excellent and admirable, we hv insufficient facilities here coupled with stubborn patients |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Gracesofar(op): 10:45pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
worlexy:Ok you said well. Good luck in your endeavors |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by adahib: 10:55pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
OP it's unfortunate what happened to the accident victim and how the doctors responded without proper explanation. for them to turn down payments via bank transfer indicates something. perhaps the patient was too bad for them to handle given their skills and available equipment. They should have explained that to you clearly. Like people have been pointing out, Nigeria needs a functional health insurance scheme to cover emergency cases especially. That will go a long way in helping most people in emergency situations. That said, when I read the comments of most people on nairaland, I shudder at the hate and resentment most people have for doctors in this country. Yes, there are some bad doctors but that holds true in every sector and every country of the world. So castigating the entirety of doctors in Nigeria makes no sense. We should ask ourselves, if Nigerian doctors are so bad, why are the clinics always full? why do the same terrible doctors excel so well outside the country? A few days ago, a lady posted how much she detested doctors because they don't spend time with her. while I agree that a doctor should always explain to a patient what is ailing him/her, I totally disagree that a doctor needs to spend the entire day on a single patient. I work in a government hospital that attends to over 10,000 people and others who still come from outside. We are only 7. A typical clinic day can contain over 500 people. We have to see patients in the ward, do surgeries and still take calls. Yet one still expects us to spend an hour on a single patient. While some of us don't do too well as regards our attitude, most relate perfectly with people. So please let's tone down on this doctor hate. I'm yet to see anyone open a thread about how a doctor saved him or her. Or are we to believe that no doctor in Nigeria has ever saved the life of a Nigerian? |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 11:03pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
Asu015:We are talking of the ones here. Of course abroad you have to get uour shít together You think oyinbo will pay you to be killing their people? |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 11:10pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
stagger:Actually Im NOT in Niggeria. Yeah its Niggeria, Nigger -area the spelling was deliberate so joke's on you. Im actually glad many doctors are leaving . Let them see how work is done in sane climates. No one listens to your bullshit excuses about how work is hard. Even in the UK doctors complain.. nowhere is perfect but you double down , work hard and God help you if a patient dies. Actually you are at the level Liberia is you just dont know it yet when it hits someone close to you your eye go clear. So long sucker |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 11:13pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
Asu015:Now blaming the victims SMH You honestly think our patients are stubborn? Go abroad where patients know their rights and see something. You will be eating they shít fresh out of their ass and saying thank you on top. Their work conditions are not perfect but you must put in the work perfectly . Either that or you quit. You guys have it too good in this shithole. You get paid to do nothing and you still complain that money is not enough |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by horia: 11:32pm On Sep 01, 2018 |
Gracesofar:many Nigerian hospitals are so substandard that they can't even give proper first aid. Some people died not because they were not attended to but because the right instruments were absent. They'll never tell you, the doctors. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Gracesofar(op): 12:13am On Sep 02, 2018*. Modified: 12:30am On Sep 02, 2018 |
Chartey:Someone among the people acttually used his hands to pump the mans chest etc. And if I didn't feel the pulse I won't say his breathing was get slow. And dear Mr know all, should I have used my bare hands to do what exactly? Without any kit? And what's the first aid I could have applied to a man bleeding from his nose etc am even sure he has more internal bleeding than external hatzbthe better first aid than take him to the nearest hospital. Probably you can lecture m on that. Without gloves or any form of protective. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Gracesofar(op): 12:19am On Sep 02, 2018 |
worlexy:Baseless stories? I pray this happen to you or a family member of yours. Anyway dear wise man. I will come back here to give you good measures hen you type of something similar among your family member |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Juliearth(f): 12:35am On Sep 02, 2018 |
Gracesofar:This is very sad. Please may I share this on Sdk blog? That hospital has to be sanctioned. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by stagger: 12:36am On Sep 02, 2018 |
Jaqenhghar:You are the sucker. Fuk*ng illiterate who cannot spell. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by stagger: 12:49am On Sep 02, 2018 |
Juliearth:You see, this is the issue. Most bloggers are more interested in traffic than in posting stuff that will expose the real issues. I was in a teaching hospital to conduct routine tests prior to donating blood. The head of their lab services came around and shared ONE pair of gloves each to the lab staff to use for the day. ONE PAIR in a lab that tests for HIV and hepatitis. Before my eyes, 10 people were being tested as well for donation. 7 were told they were unfit for donation. Perhaps they had HIV or hepatitis. I could not imagine myself working with one pair of gloves in that environment. I had to personally arrange a packet for the staff as my contribution. So bloggers, take out time to go to our hospitals and see the rot. Ask questions about what is happening to the funds allocated from our national budget for health. Our president is travelling to get treated abroad. Politicians and their families are all getting treatment abroad. The problem is bigger than rude doctors. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Juliearth(f): 4:01am On Sep 02, 2018 |
stagger:You don't mean it!... Well, I have had my own fair share of this matter(like having to buy the gloves myself before being tested because none were provided for) PS I am not a blogger. I just feel there are people on the blog that I mentioned that can take up this case and get justice for the dead man. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 4:23am On Sep 02, 2018 |
Jaqenhghar:i hope you know that foreign based doctors have prejudice against doctors from immigrant countries, the person may have been rascist |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 4:34am On Sep 02, 2018 |
Gracesofar:really, and you are here to bash nigerian doctors who have less to work with but still create miracles. This is why i say that the avarage nigerian patient is a scammer. Read this link to hear of what hospitals have suffered in the name of patients. This also happens in government hospitals a lot https://www.nairaland.com/4439253/reason-why-private-hospitals-termed |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 4:41am On Sep 02, 2018 |
Jaqenhghar:this one is a pained nigga. what you didnt tell them is how UK doctors are leaving for US, Canada and Australia, that is why UK relaxed immigration laws for nigerian doctors and the likes and now even offer them residency so that they too don't relocate to the USA and co once they have made their money and passed their exams. every nigerian doctor seeking to relocate knows that UK is not the final bustop. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 4:58am On Sep 02, 2018 |
arinzest:thank you sir, as for me i have no hope for the nigerian patient. They cant see past the hate, because jamb rejected them. There is a government hospital in lagos that is presently without a neurologist cos he has relocated to the UK, this is someone that studied physiotherapy, then medicine, then residency. Just imagine how much time he wasted. Studing medicine is not worth it in nigeria because the Nigerian patient is too ignorant to be worth it, you will perform surgery for them and then they later lay gifts at their pastors feet, saying God shamed the doctors and the devil. Let Nigeria get to Liberia's level so that they will understand, if they will. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 5:05am On Sep 02, 2018 |
stagger:her death is still painful, yet millions of Nigerians owe their lives to her. Yet they bash doctors |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 5:09am On Sep 02, 2018 |
adahib:if they dont do it, people abroad are doing it for us. wish i could find a link to the story of a nigerian doctor who operated a fetus out the womb and put it back in it's mums abdomen. We will continue to do well outside |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by jonadaft: 7:00am On Sep 02, 2018 |
SooCute:So many miserable fools online... Smh |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by jonadaft: 7:03am On Sep 02, 2018 |
sainty2k3: worlexy:So many miserable fools on the internet... People just type rubbish without using their brain... It's a shame. Did u read the part where they offered ẹ-payments? |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Gracesofar(op): 7:37am On Sep 02, 2018*. Modified: 8:17am On Sep 02, 2018 |
funmisticqueen:Haba.... Jamb rejected them? You think everyone you meet wanna be a doctor? Baba keep your stethoscope, some peoples dreams are just bigger. And I don't blame your myopic view though. Its common among local champions who have nothing to offer than pride and empty bragging BTW, one of the most overrated jobs in Nigeria is medicine. |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 8:07am On Sep 02, 2018 |
funmisticqueen:This is one dumb nigga They may go to Mars and why shouldn't they? Bottomline is wherever they go theu cant try the nonsense they do in Niggeria. Somehow that fúcked up sense of entitlement and not being accountable to anyone gets knocked out of their heads |
| Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 8:43am On Sep 02, 2018 |
funmisticqueen:Now calling out someone for what he /she is is now racist. SMH. FYI the person speaking is British of Nigerian origins. She was excited about meeting up with doctors from the fatherland etc and was thoroughly dissapointed about their level of practical knowledge. |
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This is 2018 for Christ sake. Even the woman selling utensils in a small shop across my street accepts transfers.