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Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by Sheriman(m): 12:20pm On Sep 02, 2018

The Establishment of Churches is the Problem of Nigeria

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by Iamzik: 12:38pm On Sep 02, 2018

ClassiqLegend:
keep quit oga,wetin u know,mtsww

I don't know much and I'm ready to learn.

Let's hear from you who know too much

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by Nobody: 12:39pm On Sep 02, 2018*

Greenarrow01:
I think the biggest problem we have in Nigeria are our schools.
The universities..the polys and colleges...

It is very sad when you see places that sgould be teaching morals and normal academic classes become the hub of cheating.. corruption and lors of stuffs.
You see vcs embezzling millions... hod converting thousands and school properties to personal stuffs..
Not just that.. the secondary are worst...
Principals will convert gorv. Funds and interventions to personal pockets. .. i have seen where a teacher encourage the boarding house students to break into tge school store to cart away foodstuffs whichntheybsell and share among themselves...

Schools are soppose to be innovative hubs.. where students will learn innovative lessons and see first hand how thibgs re done..

But most universities are only good at having pure water factories and block industries....

Look i am wondering how universities find it easy without shame to do that..

Block industries are meant to be for illiterates and semi illiterates...

Tbis country is bleeped up from the very foundation.. it very foundation.. from crazy parents who encounrage chwating in exams.. and stealing... to the crazy teachers.. we are bleeped up..
Rge leaders dont even know our problem.. there is no two ways to this..
It has to be a long paintakingredemption right from home.
We cant be better like this...
There will still be more diezanis
More bankoles
More yahooboys
More buharies and babachirs

God have mercy
I dont know wgy i am ranting on someones thread...

Well Govt. Should make education 25pecent of the budget

You have spoken very, very well. You see, unless we dig into the microest and most important INSTITUTION and which is the FAMILY, getting our values right, every other thing is mere NOISE.

HOMES ARE FAILING. IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM THEIR CHILDREN, PARENTS DON'T CARE. ALL THAT THEY WILL PROCLAIM IS: HE/SHE HAS ARRIVED.

CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME.

"We delight in the beauty of the butterfly, but rarely admit the changes it has gone through to achieve that beauty." (Maya Angelou)

Most Nigerians have a psyche of always looking for short cut through ILLEGITIMATE ways to fame, fortunes and happiness.

The Church have over the years in Nigeria being used to exploit this mentality. People looking for Miracles and Wonders and being robbed of their money.

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SEEING THE IMPART OF THE CHURCH IN OUR LIVES AND POSITIVELY BUT NO ALL BECAUSE THE SPIRIT THAT ANIMATES THESE CHURHES MOST IS CAPITALISM. THEY ARE MOSTLY MERE TEMPLE OF FRAUDS.

There are today some churches own by Non-Christians who employ an Hot Gospeller to run it for them making returns into their Banks.

The Bible says we should worship God in Truth and Spirit.

But it's manipulation mostly all the way. Even with some officials of Mosques too. Recently a fraudulent case was exposed in the Central Mosque Abuja by Prof. Oloyede.

VANITY REMAINS TO THEM A THING OF PRIDE:

WORDWORLD:
[b]They stand tall on pulpits high. Armed with mesmerizing words which they spit out from their LYING lips.

In white regalia they are dresssed. An outward show of their being PURE.

PURITANS............!? Isn't it all but PRETENCE that they are UNSTAINED, SAINTS?

Hmm.........In TRUTH, they are men of the UNDERWORLD. Living for the VANITIES of a FLEETING WORLD. These are DEVILS masqurading as MEN OF GOD.

Not to the path of SALVATION they lead souls but to the gates of their own selfish ends. PARADISE IS LOST. OH! WHAT A GREAT LOSS.

"Denounce the world!" "Denounce the world!" "Paradise is for the poor!" "Denounce the world" "I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a RICH MAN to enter the kingdom of God". "Denounce the world".

Rhetorics by these 'MEN OF GOD' on pulpits high.

Telling with their SILVER TONGUE what their hearts detest not "Denounce the world". In TRUTH these so called MEN OF GOD are they ones MOST IN LOVE with the vain, vanities of our fleeting world, which themselves have NOT DENOUNCED. Enriching themselves with Silver and Gold. Enjoying Illicit sexual pleaures with women, married, spinters, widows and divorced and more than enough wine they get in supply which never siezes, a refreshment for the flesh.

Between their Rhetorics and Reality in the MIRROR OF TRUTH is their image of course which doesn't reflect their SAY as one who WALKS their own TALK. "Denounce the world!" "Denounce the world!".

"Let your YES be YES and your NO be NO, what ever is more than these is from the EVIL ONE". The book of Matthew recorded so as been taught by a GREAT TEACHER of TRUTH Jesus Christ the son of Mary.

But NOT these so called MEN OF GOD on pulpit high in their TEMPLE OF FRAUD. Their "YES" is never "YES". And so for sure they are from the EVIL ONE whose TWO-FACE is MASKED with the hypocritical doctrine: "Do as I say and not as I do" FVCKING HYPOCRITES!!!.

Overly obsessed they are with the glittering chattles of deception of our deceiving world. Seducing them from fulfiling their pledge in the drama of our everday life. EXHORBIRANTLY they live, an EXPENSIVE TASTE via EXPLOITATION of the GULLIBLE they call "THE SHEEP".

Is a sheep not a DULL animal!?

PRIEST OF LIES, PREACHERS OF FALSEHOOD, PROPHETS OF DOOM. They keep selling their souls for PALTRY GAINS. Which they themselves know or should know inevitably leads to ENDLESS PAIN in the BLAZING FLAME.

Have you ever been told about an old wise saying: "A GOOD NAME IS BETTER THAN GOLD?"

Lo and behold that VIRTUE "a good name" so PLAIN and SIMPLE, a BEAUTY of the GARDEN, an allurement which can't be bought. Even if you have bags of gold bars and silver coins and willing to pay threefolds more. NEVER WILL IT BE SOLD because a good name is not for sale.

Anyone who sell their name, never had a GOOD NAME.

Have you seen an HONEST MAN? How his GOOD NAME shines from SEVEN HEAVENS above. Good men shall always be remembered as a blessing for their being SINCERE IN HONESTY. Their "YES" is their "YES" and their "NO" is their "NO". They WALK their TALK and practice what they preach.

Priest, Pastors of the TEMPLES OF FRAUD. Go into your praying chambers and ponder. IS FRAUD AMUSING? Oh, you are laughing "hahahahaha......and sober not?!!!" VANITY REMAINS TO THEM A THING OF PRIDE.

"Pure and undefiled religion before God is this: to visit orphans and widows in their troubles, and keep one-self unspotted from the world" The Epistle of James 1:27. [/b]

The problem is in MALPRACTICE OF 'RELIGION' but not 'RELIGION'. Those who allow PREJUDICE to block their intellect will for sure say otherwise.

"The REAL ANTI-CHRIST is he who turns the wine of an original idea into the water of MEDIOCRITY" (Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Conditions)

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by xcelentattitude(m): 12:51pm On Sep 02, 2018

solutionsnow:
Freezers church members food is ready

NL Atheist, the table is set

Jehovah witnesses, come and eat. We know you have done great and mighty things for this nation, they are only too big for us to see . Come defend your transmission, confusion, and economic parasitic organisation.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by plaetton: 12:53pm On Sep 02, 2018*

oneolajire:
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In my last article, Christians, Churches And Tithes Are Not Nigeria's Underdevelopment Problems . https://www.nairaland.com/4611907/christians-churches-tithes-not-nigerias I promised to write on how churches and christians can help accelerate socio-economic development of Nigeria. Yea, the strength of the churches in Nigeria is massive because of the financial strength they possess as this can be harnessed to help more in nation building.‎

Agriculture: Agriculture is a major sector that the church needs to invest massively to help achieve rapid development. If each mega church can invest a minimum of 20 million naira into cattle ranching in almost all the geopolitical zone in Nigeria, there will be abundant meat for local consumption and export.

The terrorism perpetuated by Fulani herdsmen against the farmers and Christians would be a thing of the past as the evil monopoly of beef production will been broken when there is massive investment in modern cattle rearing. Other sources of animal protein should also be explored to create varieties.

I believe that if the church can invest thirty percent of her investment in university education and TV broadcast alone on cultivation of rice, palm oil, and other staple food items, the number of unemployed in the churches will also reduce greatly.

I believe the church should learn much from a Nigerian called Rev Father Nzamujo, Songhai Farms, www.songhaifarms.org, Port Novo. He left his comfort zone in the US to start a multi-disciplinary farm in Port Novo after he was rejected in Nigeria. He succeeded at winning souls for Christ as well as meeting the physical needs of people. ‎
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Library: Library provision is another major aspect the church can help Nigeria achieve rapid transformation. Ben Carson, Thomas Edison and many other Americans achieved greatness because they made use of public libraries. For a nation to develop, I believe students should be more familiar with the libraries than the political parties and entertainers.

Technology hubs: Menlo Park, USA, was the world's first privately owned research and development lab/workshop, established by Thomas Edison. Several products were developed there while Henry Ford later developed his first car from this same workshop. After then, several other people and organisations have built their own research and development centres.

I have seen and read several prototype inventions made by Nigerians which could not be developed into commercial products. So many ended up on the shelves while some were lucky to be developed abroad. It would be a great thing if the church can invest in creating few technology hubs in Nigeria to help commercialise technology prototypes, probably in association to the universities they have.

Installation of solar power facilities are have been discovered to be a potent solution to the problem of power supply in Nigeria. Unfortunately, solar power facilities are very expensive, but I believe if the church can use her technology hub to invest in the manufacture of this product in large quantities, there will be cheap source of power supply for all.

Impact Makers: The most effective way the church can make tremendous impact in our society is to produce impact makers like Joseph, Daniel, Esther and Nehemiah. The political and economic situation in Nigeria is terrible because it is filled with visionless and greedy people as a result of the absence of impact makers. We need more of the former NAFDAC DG, late Dora Akunyili who will courageously take their Jesus to workplaces and make generational impact.

Note to Christians: Christians must understand that their major duty is not just about evangelism and running other church programmes, but must learn to provide for the needs of the worshippers as well. In Act 6: 1-7, the apostles made provisions to meet the needs of the disciples. In Act 4:34-37, disciples sold their properties and the funds were used for evangelism and welfare of their worshippers. Thank God they sold their properties because persecution later dispersed them.‎

Today, Nigerian Christians do not necessarily need to sell their properties for social services because there is no persecution to disperse anylonger, but to engage in ventures that will be used to better the conditions of living. Christianity is not a state religion in Nigeria so this is the reason why total dependence on the government is dangerous. It must be understood that making economic impact in the society makes Christianity more acceptable.
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Finally, It is so unfortunate that Nigeria is now known to be the world's capital of poor people. Blame game produces no development. Poverty, unemployment and underdevelopment is a common feature of all tribes, religion and association. Therefore all hands must be on deck to turn situations around. ‎

Absolute trash.
A mishmash of delusions and convoluted logic.

Why not also say that the Toothfairy is the solution to Nigeria's socio economic problems ? huh

In fact, I profer that Amadioha is the solution to Nigeria's socio economic problems. And I can marshal out a more cogent argument to support that.

I took pains to read the article, hoping that the writer would cite historical or modern day examples of nations where religion was or is a social economic driver.
Rather, the writer just chose to take me on a merry-go-round of delusions, ignorance, and wishful thinking.
Funny that the writer made reference to Silicon Valley as a hub of scientific and technological innovations, but failed to tell us home many Bullshyt mountains( churches) are located in that geographical area, or any statistics that show that majority of those that populate Silicon Valley are Christian evangelists.

Religious superstitions and magical thinking are the complete opposites of economic progress and social harmony.

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Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by plaetton: 12:55pm On Sep 02, 2018

CAPSLOCKED:
THEIR ONLY ATTEMPT HAS BEEN VIGILS, PRAYERS, STUPID PROPHECIES, SNAKE OIL SALES, AND MANY OTHER POINTLESS THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FAILING SO ATROCIOUSLY.

Don't mind them.
Delusional characters.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by plaetton: 1:03pm On Sep 02, 2018

oneolajire:
Mr church hater, tell us what your religious group or association has done or will do for this nation to achieve rapid nation building or you remain silent for ever. If you can't boldly come forth to tell us what your organisation is doing, then it is a liability and a parasitic one.

Lol.
First of all, religion is not and has never been in the business of progressive nationbuilding. Religion exist to shackle and hold populations of people mentally captive for exploitation . Nothing else.
As you can see from a brief glimpse of history, the more the religious order is Emasculated, the freer , the more peaceful, the more progressive a society becomes. That's not my opinion. That's simple history.

Secondly, I find it ironic that you used the Word ' parasite' to describe a nonreligious person.
I can't stop laughing laughing. cheesy

That is classic psychological projection.

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Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by omoelerin1: 1:07pm On Sep 02, 2018

HigherEd:
Meanwhile, at Winners Chapel!

Technology Hub: Winners Chapel would be building her first Technology hub very soon. Although as usual it would be routed via her flagship university - CU. It would be housed in a twin mega structure with a bridge linking it. With over 2,000 systems.

Already, the Hebron startup lab which is an integral part of CUCRID - which is partly funded by David Oyedepo Foun. Initial 1 billion naira grant has nurtured about 43 start up businesses.

CUCRID on its core mission now has over 23 research clusters with massive year to year funding from both David Oyedepo foun and the school herself. The center now serves as the place with the highest activity in Multidisciplinary research with over 162 research publications(SCOPUS) and 20% of all Nigeria's multidisciplinary research as attested by Times Higher. It is also probably the largest indigenous private funder of research in Nigeria.

There is also plans for an agro - research institute at Landmark university later in the coming months. The church is also supporting LMU in her quest of putting the first Sattelite in space right here from inside Nigeria via a partnership with Kyushu Inst of Tech, Japan and NASDRA.

The Church is also providing 15,000 housing unit which would be transforming for Ota and would be a significant church led attempt in reducing the housing deficit of 17 million unit. I

So you see Churches are doing fairly great on the development side of things. Most of them just have PR issues.

No surprise. You're part of PR team of winners.

You're doing your job.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by nwakaibeya1: 1:29pm On Sep 02, 2018

Mathew 23,Take note of verse 15,same way prophets & pastors & so called evangelist etc travel & claim to win single souls with aeroplane while people under them are held in evil family bondages,evil marine,occult oppressions without peace&power??A Warning Against Hypocrisy? Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. 11 The greatest among you will be your servant. 12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees
13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] [b]15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by Nobody: 1:54pm On Sep 02, 2018

The church is in fact the cause if most of Nigeria's problems.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by chukwutope: 2:31pm On Sep 02, 2018

I think I found the secret to be successful in nigeria. Become a pastor.

Seriously, people are so gullible - OP is case in point, that you could have a never ending stream of income, power and sex. Just remember to not start believing in the trash you will spewing to others!

Know well that Bible is BS, but don't let others know. Pretend you believe too. The only thing you should believe in is money. Make money your god, and exploit fools to the maximum.

If you are not tithing, you will burn in hell! Got a job? You first pay should go to the church. Getting married? The same deal! Had a child? You know the drill!

Keep your community brainwashed. It isn't hard. Literacy is doing absolutely nothing to get rid of this religious slavery, why not take maximum advantage of it?

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Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by omoelerin1: 2:40pm On Sep 02, 2018

oneolajire:
Late Dora was more than an impact maker but a sacrificial lamb, who put her life on the line each day she worked as the NAFDAC DG. Her success still remains a model and a yardstick for all.

Sacrificial lamb ko, sacrificial goat ni.
Well, may be she sacrificed herself for your family, who knows.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by Nobody: 2:49pm On Sep 02, 2018

Sirheny007:
What a load of crap!
Are Churches even Taxed??

Anyway, If the church finally solves the socio-economic problem in Nigeria, do you know what it means?
Nigerians will become imprisoned by the church.
Government will become the church.
The church will become the government.
We will be headed to our doom.

your tithe will automatically be deducted from your salary cos it's part of the new constitution.

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Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by brojoshua: 2:57pm On Sep 02, 2018

Nigeria church is the foundation of the problem of Nigeria, it's the foundation of corruption. The church is the source of corruption in Nigeria, the false prophets and pastors preaching corruption and sharing looted money with politicians and the false pastors anointing and praying for criminals, looters and bank looters.
But true church will lead the nation in righteousness, justice, truth and mercy and lead people by good example and hate and fight against corruption and the corrupt people and politicians. But the church in Nigeria is more corrupt than the politicians and has ruined the country and lead under the wrath and judgment and destruction of God. Multiple woes unto all the false prophets in Nigeria and their false followers but blessed are all the few faithful and true remnants of Christians in Nigeria. Amen

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by CodeTemplar: 3:01pm On Sep 02, 2018

solutionsnow:
Freezers church members food is ready

NL Atheist, the table is set

Jehovah witnesses, come and eat. We know you have done great and mighty things for this nation, they are only too big for us to see . Come defend your transmission, confusion, and economic parasitic organisation.

Did you just attack a private group of individuals for their beliefs. Govt uses public funds to buy Ramadan ram and you guys aren't bothered about those but want the Church to fund what govt has refused to. Christians pay tax to govt so govt can build thing Christians share with non-christians and I see no reason for expecting a church funded by tax paying believers to shoulder the responsibility they are paying taxes for.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by bobbychenko(m): 3:07pm On Sep 02, 2018

TruthHurts100:
Foolish thought.

Jews were expecting Jesus to restore Jerusalem. They wanted to make him king.
When Jesus was asked to become king, what did he do and say?

If your pastor is preaching the true gospel, he will face his assignment like Jesus did.

This Jerusalem is destined to be destroyed, why will Jesus Christ waste his time restoring it.

This world system is destined to be destroyed and replaced with a system by God himself. That was what Jesus taught us to pray for, thy kingdom come, thy will be done here on earth as it has in heaven.

All these trash your church is doing is to cover up for all their extortions in the name of God and Christ.

Go argue with your ancestors.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by Frenchkiss(m): 3:24pm On Sep 02, 2018

oneolajire:
Mr church hater, tell us what your religious group or association has done or will do for this nation to achieve rapid nation building or you remain silent for ever. If you can't boldly come forth to tell us what your organisation is doing, then it is a liability and a parasitic one.

Exactly. One of the easiest things to do in this life is to criticize. No matter how good anything is, it's can easily be criticized one way or another. The question is you who are criticising, what are you doing?

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by Tejiriseth(m): 3:57pm On Sep 02, 2018

Abeg Add me On Facebook. You be kind of person
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SalomonKane:
... what a load of crap. I wonder why we're so drunk with religion in Nigeria. Even Europe, who gave us this religion we so celebrate, they've thrown it under the rug because they've seen it for what it is, a fraud, patronised by fraudsters and fools.

i'll always say it that the sooner we do away with religion in this country, the better it will be for us all.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by sexyanyabubakar(f): 4:50pm On Sep 02, 2018

SalomonKane:
... what a load of crap. I wonder why we're so drunk with religion in Nigeria. Even Europe, who gave us this religion we so celebrate, they've thrown it under the rug because they've seen it for what it is, a fraud, patronised by fraudsters and fools.

i'll always say it that the sooner we do away with religion in this country, the better it will be for us all.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by mmsen: 7:53pm On Sep 02, 2018

Sirheny007:
What a load of crap!
Are Churches even Taxed??

Anyway, If the church finally solves the socio-economic problem in Nigeria, do you know what it means?
Nigerians will become imprisoned by the church.
Government will become the church.
The church will become the government.
We will be headed to our doom.

Between thase who scrape their heads on the carpet and those who scream and shout for hours at a time, we are already in danger.

I was hoping that the Boko Haram nonsense would lead to a wider debate on the dangers of religion by Nigerians, instead we have people doubling down on their stupidity.

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Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by mmsen: 7:55pm On Sep 02, 2018

Pavore9:
Historically the Church has bred thinkers but sadly today it has shifted to more of tithers!

The thinkers were always the minority.

The overwhelming majority were/are sheep.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by virago(f): 4:01am On Sep 03, 2018

oneolajire:
Mr church hater, tell us what your religious group or association has done or will do for this nation to achieve rapid nation building or you remain silent for ever. If you can't boldly come forth to tell us what your organisation is doing, then it is a liability and a parasitic one.

Shut up there , you will forever be a slave to the white man's religion

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by virago(f): 4:03am On Sep 03, 2018

Greenarrow01:
I think the biggest problem we have in Nigeria are our schools.
The universities..the polys and colleges...

It is very sad when you see places that sgould be teaching morals and normal academic classes become the hub of cheating.. corruption and lors of stuffs.
You see vcs embezzling millions... hod converting thousands and school properties to personal stuffs..
Not just that.. the secondary are worst...
Principals will convert gorv. Funds and interventions to personal pockets. .. i have seen where a teacher encourage the boarding house students to break into tge school store to cart away foodstuffs whichntheybsell and share among themselves...

Schools are soppose to be innovative hubs.. where students will learn innovative lessons and see first hand how thibgs re done..

But most universities are only good at having pure water factories and block industries....

Look i am wondering how universities find it easy without shame to do that..

Block industries are meant to be for illiterates and semi illiterates...

Tbis country is bleeped up from the very foundation.. it very foundation.. from crazy parents who encounrage chwating in exams.. and stealing... to the crazy teachers.. we are bleeped up..
Rge leaders dont even know our problem.. there is no two ways to this..
It has to be a long paintakingredemption right from home.
We cant be better like this...
There will still be more diezanis
More bankoles
More yahooboys
More buharies and babachirs

God have mercy
I dont know wgy i am ranting on someones thread...

Well Govt. Should make education 25pecent of the budget

Churches and religion have done worse in Nigeria

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by DeepSight(m): 7:40am On Sep 03, 2018

plaetton:
As you can see from a brief glimpse of history, the more the religious order is Emasculated, the freer , the more peaceful, the more progressive a society becomes. That's not my opinion. That's simple history.

I don't think this is entirely accurate in terms of history. Certain societies have repressed religion and that very act has been a symptom of a generally repressive state - and as such in those instances it would be wrong to state that the emasculation of a religious order led to a "freer" state. Notable examples include Russia, Nazi Germany and China.

On the other hand religions despite their colorful and many times dark history have actually on occasion been a positive agent for change - as may be said with the motivating factors for many of the prime movers against the slave trade for example - they were deeply religious people. This is not to take away the dark aspects of religions and certainly not to deny the fact that religious texts were also used to justify slavery.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by plaetton: 1:47pm On Sep 03, 2018

DeepSight:
I don't think this is entirely accurate in terms of history. Certain societies have repressed religion and that very act has been a symptom of a generally repressive state - and as such in those instances it would be wrong to state that the emasculation of a religious order led to a "freer" state. Notable examples include Russia, Nazi Germany and China.

On the other hand religions despite their colorful and many times dark history have actually on occasion been a positive agent for change - as may be said with the motivating factors for many of the prime movers against the slave trade for example - they were deeply religious people. This is not to take away the dark aspects of religions and certainly not to deny the fact that religious texts were also used to justify slavery.

Salutations, my Wordy Sire. cool

I trust that all is well with you . wink

Whereas I do not disagree with any of your points, I will, however, say that by the use of the word ' emasculated' , I did not mean forceful emasculation at all.
No, not at all.
Forceful emasculation would also mean forceful emasculation of free thought, an anathema to progress .

Rather, by emasculation of religion, I meant the gradual and steady devolution of the powers of the religious orders, the slow and steady encroachment of scientific curiosity, and the steady consensus adoption of scientific rationalism as a much more reliable arbiter of reality and existence. This is the emasculation of superstitions, and with it,religious superstitions and thought.

Re: The church is the solution to Nigeria's socio-economic problems‎ by DeepSight(m): 5:11pm On Sep 03, 2018

plaetton:
Salutations, my Wordy Sire.
I trust that all is well with you .

Whereas I do not disagree with any of your points, I will, however, say that by the use of the word ' emasculated' , I did not mean forceful emasculation at all.
No, not at all.
Forceful emasculation would also mean forceful emasculation of free thought, an anathema to progress .

Rather, by emasculation of religion, I meant the gradual and steady devolution of the powers of the religious orders, the slow and steady encroachment of scientific curiosity, and the steady consensus adoption of scientific rationalism as a much more reliable arbiter of reality and existence. This is the emasculation of superstitions, and with it,religious superstitions and thought.

That is better.
How you dey boss?

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