| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by CuteMadridista: 9:55am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Ioannes:
. Your argument is absolutely flawed and your projecting frustration and inability to think deep on me wouldn't suddenly make your point any more valid The point you're trying to make is that were so intelligent some being must've created us. my counter to that is to ask if this "being that must've created us" is more intelligent than us. if your answer to that is "Yes" then I have to ask who created that entity who's even more intelligent than humans....... Also if were so awesomely designed and intelligent that there must be an entity behind this I ask how "less intelligent" or "less designed" do we have to be for that entity to be unnecessary? All these long Epistle is irrelevant |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by thatigboman: 9:55am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Ioannes:
Take a look in the mirror. If that doesn't convince you of the existence of God, nothing will.
I still can't understand how there can be humans with functioning wills and minds who still think God does not exist.
In case you didn't think about it before, let me tell you here, it is NOT possible for an unintelligent, random force to create or form intelligent beings such as humans. god invented mirror? Not white man again? |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by iluvdonjazzy: 9:56am On Oct 07, 2018 |
me I prefer standing |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Nnamdinaija(m): 9:56am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Ioannes:
Take a look in the mirror. If that doesn't convince you of the existence of God, nothing will.
I still can't understand how there can be humans with functioning wills and minds who still think God does not exist.
In case you didn't think about it before, let me tell you here, it is NOT possible for an unintelligent, random force to create or form intelligent beings such as humans.  1 Like 
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| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by thatigboman: 9:56am On Oct 07, 2018 |
DedeNkem:
Why "pray" to an imaginary god? Could any religious person here prove their god exists!
I am open-minded and willing to change if you can undeniably demonstrate or prove that your god exists.
Please, don't quote your bible to me. The bible is not a reliable historic book. that book called bible is pure fiction. The greatest hoax on earth 1 Like |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Mikefrik(m): 10:03am On Oct 07, 2018 |
@moshud1979- I pray u get this understanding_ firstly God exists. how? because you have something a goat doesn't. which is your soul. now do u dream? if yes then I ask a question which is- do u see urself in ur dream? if yes u have a soul. now without a soul u can't exist in this world I tell you because this world is material. now if God doesn't open the eyes of ur understanding u won't understand. but before I convince u let me ask u one question . DO U HAVE A SOUL? |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Melchizzedek: 10:14am On Oct 07, 2018 |
CuteMadridista:
Whether you kneel or jump while praying is inconsequential as it wouldn't stop prayers from being useless, ineffective and a total waste of time
there are actual scientific studies on prayer (eg Templeton Foundation research). Not one has ever shown any connection between prayer and real world outcomes. The only connection is that people who pray BELIEVE that their prayers are answered mostly because humans are designed to ignore all the facts that don't fit their beliefs. But the FACT is, we have studied prayer and it appears to have zero effect on anything
You would have the same success praying to a milk
jug as you do praying to yahweh -- the milk jug sometimes answers your prayer the way you want to, sometimes not and sometimes the answer is delayed. See the problem here? If things turn out the way you want them to, you say it was because you prayed. If not, it's because yahweh knows what's best and you didn't pray for the right thing. Or, if it happens 10 years later you say yahweh answered your prayer, it was just delayed. This is nonsense. You would have the exact same effect doing nothing.
Prayers are proven to be useless whether done while kneeling, running, skipping or sheeting. Prayer is a waste of time and time spent to pray should've been better spent looking for practical solutions
Nigerians keep praying for long life and now has life expectancy of 54.5 years (the 7th lowest in the world) while a prayerless Japan comprising of atheist majority has a life expectancy of 83.7 years (highest in the world)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Nigeria is filled with a population that prays against poverty but she's just been branded "Poverty Capital of the World" http://punchng.com/with-87m-poor-citizens-nigeria-overtakes-india-as-worlds-poverty-capital/
once again, Prayers are useless |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by xpmode(m): 10:24am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Scientifically Our brain has more concentration while working, so Praying while walking is good. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by sniperr007(m): 10:25am On Oct 07, 2018 |
CuteMadridista:
Whether you kneel or jump while praying is inconsequential as it wouldn't stop prayers from being useless, ineffective and a total waste of time
there are actual scientific studies on prayer (eg Templeton Foundation research). Not one has ever shown any connection between prayer and real world outcomes. The only connection is that people who pray BELIEVE that their prayers are answered mostly because humans are designed to ignore all the facts that don't fit their beliefs. But the FACT is, we have studied prayer and it appears to have zero effect on anything
You would have the same success praying to a milk
jug as you do praying to yahweh -- the milk jug sometimes answers your prayer the way you want to, sometimes not and sometimes the answer is delayed. See the problem here? If things turn out the way you want them to, you say it was because you prayed. If not, it's because yahweh knows what's best and you didn't pray for the right thing. Or, if it happens 10 years later you say yahweh answered your prayer, it was just delayed. This is nonsense. You would have the exact same effect doing nothing.
Prayers are proven to be useless whether done while kneeling, running, skipping or sheeting. Prayer is a waste of time and time spent to pray should've been better spent looking for practical solutions
Nigerians keep praying for long life and now has life expectancy of 54.5 years (the 7th lowest in the world) while a prayerless Japan comprising of atheist majority has a life expectancy of 83.7 years (highest in the world)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Nigeria is filled with a population that prays against poverty but she's just been branded "Poverty Capital of the World" http://punchng.com/with-87m-poor-citizens-nigeria-overtakes-india-as-worlds-poverty-capital/
once again, Prayers are useless Gbam It's urgent opinion. But prayer is not useless to me. It's as important to me as the air I breathe. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by uvalued(m): 10:37am On Oct 07, 2018 |
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| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Brownshugar69: 10:40am On Oct 07, 2018 |
CuteMadridista:
Whether you kneel or jump while praying is inconsequential as it wouldn't stop prayers from being useless, ineffective and a total waste of time
there are actual scientific studies on prayer (eg Templeton Foundation research). Not one has ever shown any connection between prayer and real world outcomes. The only connection is that people who pray BELIEVE that their prayers are answered mostly because humans are designed to ignore all the facts that don't fit their beliefs. But the FACT is, we have studied prayer and it appears to have zero effect on anything
You would have the same success praying to a milk
jug as you do praying to yahweh -- the milk jug sometimes answers your prayer the way you want to, sometimes not and sometimes the answer is delayed. See the problem here? If things turn out the way you want them to, you say it was because you prayed. If not, it's because yahweh knows what's best and you didn't pray for the right thing. Or, if it happens 10 years later you say yahweh answered your prayer, it was just delayed. This is nonsense. You would have the exact same effect doing nothing.
Prayers are proven to be useless whether done while kneeling, running, skipping or sheeting. Prayer is a waste of time and time spent to pray should've been better spent looking for practical solutions
Nigerians keep praying for long life and now has life expectancy of 54.5 years (the 7th lowest in the world) while a prayerless Japan comprising of atheist majority has a life expectancy of 83.7 years (highest in the world)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Nigeria is filled with a population that prays against poverty but she's just been branded "Poverty Capital of the World" http://punchng.com/with-87m-poor-citizens-nigeria-overtakes-india-as-worlds-poverty-capital/
once again, Prayers are useless I have never seen such a useless post as this. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by dopemama(f): 10:44am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Thanks y'all really appreciate your responses! |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Benekruku(m): 10:50am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Doggy |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Benekruku(m): 10:53am On Oct 07, 2018 |
CuteMadridista:
Whether you kneel or jump while praying is inconsequential as it wouldn't stop prayers from being useless, ineffective and a total waste of time
there are actual scientific studies on prayer (eg Templeton Foundation research). Not one has ever shown any connection between prayer and real world outcomes. The only connection is that people who pray BELIEVE that their prayers are answered mostly because humans are designed to ignore all the facts that don't fit their beliefs. But the FACT is, we have studied prayer and it appears to have zero effect on anything
You would have the same success praying to a milk
jug as you do praying to yahweh -- the milk jug sometimes answers your prayer the way you want to, sometimes not and sometimes the answer is delayed. See the problem here? If things turn out the way you want them to, you say it was because you prayed. If not, it's because yahweh knows what's best and you didn't pray for the right thing. Or, if it happens 10 years later you say yahweh answered your prayer, it was just delayed. This is nonsense. You would have the exact same effect doing nothing.
Prayers are proven to be useless whether done while kneeling, running, skipping or sheeting. Prayer is a waste of time and time spent to pray should've been better spent looking for practical solutions
Nigerians keep praying for long life and now has life expectancy of 54.5 years (the 7th lowest in the world) while a prayerless Japan comprising of atheist majority has a life expectancy of 83.7 years (highest in the world)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Nigeria is filled with a population that prays against poverty but she's just been branded "Poverty Capital of the World" http://punchng.com/with-87m-poor-citizens-nigeria-overtakes-india-as-worlds-poverty-capital/
once again, Prayers are useless You are brilliant But the dumbs one wont read Praying abnormal prayers Even their pastors know prayers dont work They collect physical cash from them and tell them to pray for prosperity in advance |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Nobody: 10:55am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Which ever position is ok , the most important is that your spirit, soul, and body is connected to God. Changing of the position will naturally come as your spirit leads. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Bianda24: 11:29am On Oct 07, 2018 |
DedeNkem:
Why respond if you don't care? Is this how you practise your religion, by being overly sensitive and rude when challenged? I was not rude, I just stated the obvious. Nobody cares, anybody can hold any belief, it's a free world. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Bianda24: 11:32am On Oct 07, 2018 |
omojeesu:
God cares so is Jesus! Yes, Our God cares and our Lord Jesus Christ cares too, we humans don't care if anybody makes unfounded comment about Jesus and prayer, he or she will experience something that will put him/her on the kneels to pray. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Amazingman(m): 11:34am On Oct 07, 2018 |
It depends on the situation or circumstance you are praying for. Whether kneelimg, standing or jumping as one bro said or lying it all depends on the demand of that prayer. Praying positions are like styles when fighting. You have jab, upper cut, super blow etc so depending on the kind of battle you de fightin prayers you need some certain positions |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Bianda24: 11:36am On Oct 07, 2018 |
DedeNkem:
Why respond if you don't care? Is this how you practise your religion, by being overly sensitive and rude when challenged? It is well |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Amazingman(m): 11:37am On Oct 07, 2018 |
We nairalanders should try change something about the kind of life we want to live. If its a free world pls sir kimdly create ur own O2 Bianda24:
I was not rude, I just stated the obvious. Nobody cares, anybody can hold any belief, it's a free world. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Nobody: 11:46am On Oct 07, 2018 |
thatigboman:
god invented mirror? Not white man again? Lol. From the responses I get here it shows that people haven't even started on the journey for truth. When I say take a look IN the mirror, it is not the same thing as take a look AT the mirror. Maybe you should start your journey by contemplating the distinction. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Nobody: 11:53am On Oct 07, 2018 |
CuteMadridista:
Your argument is absolutely flawed and your projecting frustration and inability to think deep on me wouldn't suddenly make your point any more valid
The point you're trying to make is that were so intelligent some being must've created us. my counter to that is to ask if this "being that must've created us" is more intelligent than us. if your answer to that is "Yes" then I have to ask who created that entity who's even more intelligent than humans.......
Also if were so awesomely designed and intelligent that there must be an entity behind this I ask how "less intelligent" or "less designed" do we have to be for that entity to be unnecessary?
All these long Epistle is irrelevant I understand. First, you thought that me saying that you should take a look in the mirror is the same thing as saying that you should look AT the mirror tells me not to get in an argument with you. Second, I must have thought you would understand the way I used the word intelligent being to mean a self aware, self conscious being as opposed to non-living things and not intelligent in the sense of academic smarts or something. I won't waste anymore energy or efforts here. You are entitled to your opinion. As long as we are all truly seeking for the truth. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Nobody: 12:14pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
[quote author=DedeNkem post=71858688] That something exists is not a proof that some unseen being created it. Actually it is more than enough proof that it was created. Have you asked yourself how you came to be here? And what happens to your consciousness after you die? Have you asked yourself where everything came from? Have you heard of the theory of Cause And Effect, that nothing happens unless acted upon by a force? A paper bag doesn't just blow across the parking lot unless there is breeze to blow it? An apple doesn't just disappear from the jar ulrss some fingers snitched it? The big bang doesn't just bang unless somebody banged whatever banged? The more you ask questions, the more you realize that there is indeed an Eternal, Living Force that always was and always will be that started everything off.
A human who possesses logical reasoning and values the truth doesn't engage in fallacies.
And where is the fallacy? You are naïve if you think logic explains every situation, every condition, every existence in life. Logic only gets you thus far and no farther. Science cannot explain a lot of things. Till today, science is still struggling to understand the significance of the black hole. Till today, science is still grappling with the idea of gravity, you know, that force that keeps us from falling into the sky and out into the space, that force that keeps the earth spinning and not flying away from the sun. Did you know that top scientists like Einstein and Galileo were actually Catholic? Science and the belief in God are not mutually exclusive.
Do you know how many imaginary gods people worship all over the world? Do you know there are thousands of religions in existence today?
Let's assume for a second that a god created everything. Can you prove that it was your own god that did it?
Do you know that there are people around you who have false opinions about you even though they see you everyday? Does that change who you truly are? That humans down the ages have tried to understand where they came from and how they came to be here and are making mistakes along the way It doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. We must not conclude about God by the mistakes we make. The brightest created intelligence can never ever grasp the full meaning of the concept called God. That you don't see something and have only heard about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Scientists tell you that the planet Pluto exists and you believe despite haven never seen it. Science tells you that there are molecules and atoms and ions and there one Andromeda galaxy some billions of light years away from our own puny Milky Way Galaxy and you believe even though you've never seen these things before. Yet when you are told to turn your mind to the fact that it's not possible for all these things to happen by accident and that there is indeed an unseen Creator somewhere, you say you don't believe? Where did humans come from? Created or evolved? If evolved, evolved from what, from where? Can a non-aware entity like a stone evolve into an intelligent, self aware being like the man? 1 Like |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Shobizz(m): 12:19pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
dopemama:
Good morning and Happy Sunday, fellow Nairanlanders, Trust we are all great! I ll like to know if it's mandatory to pray while kneeling only! Cos I do midnight prayers alot and as a person I might not be able to kneel for an hour or more! Do you think sitting to pray is a disrespect to God and hinders prayers? Or what's your take pls? whether U pray SILENTLY like Hannah in Shiloh or SIT hopelessly like the man @ d pool of Bethesda or CRIED OUT LOUD like blind Batinus Son of David have mercy on me!!! If ur action is genuine the Holy Spirit if effect it Happy Sunday NL Fam  |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Nobody: 12:25pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
moscobabs:
Guy be serious,this is a serious question and I have reason for asking the question I'm sure the prayer warriors in the house will reply. Me? I don't have a clue about it. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by jayson87: 12:33pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
LegalOpinion:
"Look straight to heaven"
My brother where is the direction of heaven? I hope you are not deceiving yourself thinking heaven is in the sky? I think you need to read Genesis again. Heaven by Genesis illustration is in the sky covered by firmament as written in Genesis. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by whizcartel(m): 12:45pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
DedeNkem:
Why "pray" to an imaginary god? Could any religious person here prove their god exists!
I am open-minded and willing to change if you can undeniably demonstrate or prove that your god exists.
Please, don't quote your bible to me. The bible is not a reliable historic book. First, Check the definition of the Universe and Check for the Definition of God. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by whizcartel(m): 12:49pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
Brownshugar69:
I have never seen such a useless post as this. He is actually right and I agree with him on a philosophical angle... But God's work supersede the thought of mere mortals. |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by Kaysalas(m): 12:53pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
Aboki99:
According to the Holly Bible the only Scripturally-supported prayer position is doing as Jesus did in Matt 26:39. Other Biblical prophets also did the same in Gen 17:3, Neh 8:6, etc. What is that bro.? Falling down on your face to pray as the Muslims do. "Moving a little further, Jesus fell down on his face and prayed" - Matthew 26 v39. This is the only way to pray and if you say it is not, just supply me your own Bibblical proofs NOT INSULTS! JESUS PRAYED AS MUSLIMS DO! Just follow Jesus if you truly have faith and obey his commandments! Point of correction; Muslims pray copying one of several scripturally acceptable ways of prayer. Nit the other way round, i hope u get my drift? And yes, no insults 1 Like 
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| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by thatigboman: 1:14pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
Ioannes:
Lol. From the responses I get here it shows that people haven't even started on the journey for truth.
When I say take a look IN the mirror, it is not the same thing as take a look AT the mirror.
Maybe you should start your journey by contemplating the distinction. answer d question first before talking rubbish |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by 88Gadas(m): 1:17pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
Ioannes:
Take a look in the mirror. If that doesn't convince you of the existence of God, nothing will.
I still can't understand how there can be humans with functioning wills and minds who still think God does not exist.
In case you didn't think about it before, let me tell you here, it is NOT possible for an unintelligent, random force to create or form intelligent beings such as humans. Brother you have said it all..him that have ear let him hear.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: The Best Prayer Position As A Christian! by MrMacinterchi1: 1:49pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
CuteMadridista:
Whether you kneel or jump while praying is inconsequential as it wouldn't stop prayers from being useless, ineffective and a total waste of time
there are actual scientific studies on prayer (eg Templeton Foundation research). Not one has ever shown any connection between prayer and real world outcomes. The only connection is that people who pray BELIEVE that their prayers are answered mostly because humans are designed to ignore all the facts that don't fit their beliefs. But the FACT is, we have studied prayer and it appears to have zero effect on anything
You would have the same success praying to a milk
jug as you do praying to yahweh -- the milk jug sometimes answers your prayer the way you want to, sometimes not and sometimes the answer is delayed. See the problem here? If things turn out the way you want them to, you say it was because you prayed. If not, it's because yahweh knows what's best and you didn't pray for the right thing. Or, if it happens 10 years later you say yahweh answered your prayer, it was just delayed. This is nonsense. You would have the exact same effect doing nothing.
Prayers are proven to be useless whether done while kneeling, running, skipping or sheeting. Prayer is a waste of time and time spent to pray should've been better spent looking for practical solutions
Nigerians keep praying for long life and now has life expectancy of 54.5 years (the 7th lowest in the world) while a prayerless Japan comprising of atheist majority has a life expectancy of 83.7 years (highest in the world)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Nigeria is filled with a population that prays against poverty but she's just been branded "Poverty Capital of the World" http://punchng.com/with-87m-poor-citizens-nigeria-overtakes-india-as-worlds-poverty-capital/
once again, Prayers are useless What one believes works for them. |
