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David Mark's vote= 35

David Marks's votes= 35

Dancing!, Atiku for president!!!!!
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Dancing!, Atiku for president!!!!!
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Turaki's votes= 65

K Turaki's Vote = 65

Turaki: 65
Sule Lamido next

Sule Lamido's votes= 96

Lamido : 96

Sure lamido - 96

Sule Lamido= 96

Bafarawa's votes= 48

Bafarawa:48

Bafarawa - 48

Bafarawa=48

Dhugal:
Oga, Ikwerre may maintain a separate identity now but in no way is their culture separate from Igbo culture.
Why don't you face your own culture, or better still, the topic of this thread

Someone said Wike is Igbo and that is what preempted the discuss. Ikwerre is NOT Igbo and there are many distinctive aspects of their culture not found in Igbo culture and vice versa.

Don't start an argument you can't win.

RESULT Void votes: 68 Jonah Jang: 19 Baba-Ahmed: 05

Some of the candidates should have stepped down before the primaries, imagine someone with 5 votes??
You no get people ni?

Big congratulations to Atiku #Team

Dakwambo: 111

Dankwabo's votes= 111

Dankwabbo vote : 111

Dankwambo : 111

Dankuabo = 111

fratermathy:
Wike is not Igbo. I do hope you know that? He has never claimed to be so, he has never identified as such, and above all, he doesn't speak Igbo. He is Ikwerre and yes, Ikwerre is an Igboid language according to linguists. The Ikwerres have always maintained their distinct identity and culture. This is akin to Itsekiri, which is a Yoruboid language but maintain a separate cultural identity or like Urhobo, which is an Edoid language but have never identified as anything but Urhobo. To be clear, that a language is described as Igboid, Yoruboid, Edoid, Nupoid, Hausoid, etc, doesn't mean that the so-described language is mutually intelligible with the languages they use in describing them. Most likely, the languages within the descriptive cluster all share the same ancestry, grammar, vocabulary, or other linguistic features. They only use the biggest variant of the language group to describe all of them for ease of description. This, in no way, implies that those who speak Igboid, Nupoid, Hausoid, Yoruboid, etc, languages are members of the ethnic group which has been used to describe their language.

In fact, there are cases where people from different ethnic groups speak the same language. We know of Welsh and Irish people who speak English but do not identify as English people. In Nigeria, we have cases of minorities in the North who speak Hausa but never identify as Hausa people. Even individually, we have persons born into particular groups but who choose to identify with another group. Chief Okotie-Eboh was born an Urhobo but identified as Itsekiri (an adopted identity) all his life.

Ethnicity goes beyond language. Its a complex of identity, consciousness, culture, politics, religion, kinship, and many other things. Unless someone identifies as belonging to a group, its better not to make assumptions, even if the person speaks like or appears to be from an obvious group. This is especially true in the case of the so-called "minority" groups.

I want to use your quote against you. Based on what you have said, as an Urhobo man would you say the Okpes and Urhobos are of different ethnic group?

Dankwanbo = 111

RESULT Kabiru Turaki: 65 Sule Lamido: 96 David Mark: 35

fratermathy:
Someone said Wike is Igbo and that is what preempted the discuss. Ikwerre is NOT Igbo and there are many distinctive aspects of their culture not found in Igbo culture and vice versa.

Don't start an argument you can't win.

Ikwerre can't be Igbo. Some culture may be similar but doesn't make them the same at all.

Larryslim:
Some of the candidates should have stepped down before the primaries, imagine someone with 5 votes??
You no get people ni?

and to think millions don go

Markafi's votes= 74

Makarfi= 74

Ahmed Makarfi : 74