DABMarkNig2019:

I no just get your energy.
I'm of a profession allied to medicine but so critical in patient care. please let Dr's be. I see those residents loosing their own living just to see that people get better life. I never got to appreciate doctors until I started work in juth. Please let our house officers and residents be. These are dedicated sets of individuals that keep on running calls back, back to back. Do you even know the mechanism behind the automated test you people run in the lab? Please the lab equally belong to the Dr's.

You have spoken well. I'm a trained medical doctor, but my interest in lab medicine has got me not practicing clinical medicine. I am currently undertaking my first postgrad degree, would soon commence the second to help fulfil my passion in lab medicine and diagnostics. Anyone interested in MBBS, either openly or codedly, should get JAMB form and apply for MBBS or MB;ChB


To the other guy quoting me and yarning trash above, you can't even stand where I stand, talkless talking when I talk. You can come back to have an intellectual discourse when you manage to be fulfilled from the MLS you acquired in-country, then consider getting into an Ivy league school for postgrad

cosmatika:

The chem Path residents going for laboratory postings doesn't mean they are there to take over their job. It's with the knowledge of our laboratory medicine that we're able yo interprete results. Even the MLS ppl complaining chased Microbiology and biochemistry graduates from the lab

I perfectly understand your point. The problem is with the chaotic Healthcare system

InansBobo:
between me and you now, who's a fool? Don't worry I will soon find a thread where someone posted about the incident
Modified: check out the attached thread below and tell me who is a fool between you and I

https://www.nairaland.com/4376932/schoolgirl-dies-benue-state-after#65500230

jeez, just read the thread, it's so tragic man. I feel like shooting the guy right now.

naijaobi:
Only in nigeria:

Will you see Medical doctors have and run pharmacies in their hospitals.

Most medical doctors who work in government establishments still have their private hospitals, and they divert patients to their hospitals and charge them high.

Some medical doctors teach courses irrelevant to what they studied. How can a medical doctor be employed to teach in zoology department.

In a sane country,
A medical doctor only works with human health.

Medical doctors don't own and operate pharmacies

Medical doctors who are employed at government establishments, do not tun their own private hospitals.

man must chop

Freddonance:


Students do not attend to patients in any hospital. Yea whenever patients come to the Hospital, they meet doctors. however, students are allowed to ask patients questions as regards their health. Students also carry out clinical examination on them on the approval of the patient. Whoever the student find in the course of the interaction with the patient will be presented to a senior doctor(consultant, registrar etc). that will enable the senior doctor make correction whatsoever.
That's how doctors are trained. The doctors who work in that same Turkish hospital were trained same way. If the said Turkish hospital is a teaching hospital, trust me, u will see medical students do same there.

Brother, I want to believe this is the standard as you commented but the experience I had with my brother was something else. I was happy cuz we had cash on us and we opted for a private hospital. The student doctor even gave my bro drug prescription without any senior doc present to get the prescription legit to someone suffering from severe sepsis.
I can agree with you @ private teaching hospitals in this Nigeria wey me and you dey.
when I took him to Bingham Teaching Hospital in Jos, their packaging is different. The Doctor sit side by side with a nurse and a student MBBS, I still stand by my first comment. Government teaching hospitals are glorified mortuary. no apologies Man most especially UNIVERSITY OF JOS TEACHING HOSPITAL.


#BACKTODAURA

You ve said it all there problem jealousy but I udsnd why without the lab they can't see...you can't rule out diagnosis and we refuse to be trampled on like other sister professions....we checkment their blunders and is a bone on their neck...

phase1:


You see one thing I have observed is that many of these Scientist-hating nigerian physicians read medicine to run away from the poverty in their lineage, unfortunately many become frustrated that the ideology they had pre-JAMB does not tally with their post-MBBS reality then they become frustrated and start trying to usurp the functions of other professionals to remain relevant including the use of propaganda, lies and hate speech.

When people like inansbobo tells you that a Scientist is in his 'village' is performing Appendisectomy and parading himself as a 'physician' you need to take those conjectures with a pinch of salt and I'll tell you why. With the level of hatred the physicians have for Scientists and the number of times they claim they saw a Scientist 'performing illegal surgery', there should be at least 200 scientists in prison right now for performing illegal surgery but have you heard of any Scientist standing trial for such illegality? No. You know why you won't find? The stories are Propaganda and the aims are well known to discerning minds.

Most of these 'Scientists' practicing surgical illegality only exist in the imaginations of these hateful and jealous 'malaria specialists' who blame Medical Lab Scientists for their inability to function properly and professionally after cramming their way out of school.

If there are TRUE cases of Scientists doing such illegality, the physicians will be very happy to arrest them and put out their names in the public domain so they can ridicule the 'stubborn and proud' Med Lab Scientists' and tell the whole world 'yes we've caught them'.

No Scientist who holds a BMLS and a proper license will want to jeopardize it for stipends accrued from illegal surgery. There are more than 15000 laboratory tests a Scientist can perform and make money from. Some of them as pricey as N130,000, N85,000, N79000. I ran a medical laboratory test for Wilson's disease Gene mutation few months ago, it cost the client N240,000, so why would I want to go into appendisectomy for measly stipends and jeopardize my license? how much will it pay me?

The white coat charlatans also lament about other health professionals hanging stethoscopes on the dashboards of their cars and other funny accusations. Let me educate you all, the stethoscope is a physiological medical device, every health professional is taught how to use the stethoscope during physiology practicals in 200L, the Medical Scientists inclusive. It is also taught in professional Basic Life Aid courses for EVERY health professional. Even community health extention workers (CHEW) who study for 3 years in health colleges are trained on it usage. So why do a group of charlatans enjoy trying to deceive people because they think nigerians are illiterate.
I've seen a physician wonder aloud why a Scientist's lab coat is more sparkling than his as he calls the Scientist 'arrogant'. This happened during my medical internship days.

When you hear these charlatans make noise about Scientists engaging in illegalities like illegal surgery, tell them to provide you the name and RA license number of the Scientist, tell them to provide proof and see them run away.

GogetterMD:

You have spoken well. I'm a trained medical doctor, but my interest in lab medicine has got me not practicing clinical medicine. I am currently undertaking my first postgrad degree, would soon commence the second to help fulfil my passion in lab medicine and diagnostics. Anyone interested in MBBS, either openly or codedly, should get JAMB form and apply for MBBS or MB;ChB


To the other guy quoting me and yarning trash above, you can't even stand where I stand, talkless talking when I talk. You can come back to have an intellectual discourse when you manage to be fulfilled from the MLS you acquired in-country, then consider getting into an Ivy league school for postgrad

What makes you feel being a medic makes you stand where he can't. Drop that shit bro, "NOTHING IS ENOUGH ". you can be at any professional mercy at any fucking time, don't even think you are made. mtcheeew

InansBobo:
so u expect me to be able to see his license certificate? This man I'm talking about is a lab scientist at federal medical centre outreach in the village and he opened his private medical lab diagnostic centre as well so what else do I need to know that he's a lab scientist? In fact, his certification was pastes in his wait room in the diagnostic centre but I can't go there and say let me snap it. I may be questioned

Oga we are supposed to think scientifically when dissecting issues. Thinking scientifically means holding on to evidence. We are not supposed to believe that a truely licensed scientist is performing invasive surgical proceedures without seeing the evidence. You brought the matter here to the court of public opinion, the onus rests on you to show us his identity and proof of certification.
I've seen people claiming to work in teaching hospitals as full medical staff but found out they are frauds.

Did you hear about a female auxilliary 'nurse'
who claimed she works in FMC and collected money to perform heart surgery? Everyone in her community believed she worked there until the bubble burst.

Do you due diligence and make verifications, that guy is a charlatan parading as a Medical scientist probably with a dead man's license. Those are the kind of elements that have the guts to perpetrate such illegality because they know they can easily disappear without trace since they are not known to the Medical Lab Science council in Abuja.

linzeze:

MBBS cannot chase MLS out of the Lab because they are not one and same profession.
MCB and BCH know nothing about what is going on in the Medical Lab.You guys will start shouting in the US and Canada bla bla bla.Just know that those graduates there will undergo further training.
MLS dont have any problem with MBBS but the Laboratory comprises of different professional like MLS and MBBS.MBBS should head and supervise junior residents under them and let MLS supervise junior scientists.
MLS and MBBS can interprete results.Lets stop being childish.How can a MLSt generate a result he cannot interprete?.
If it is a hospital settings,the MBBS can interprete.If it is private Lab,the MLS can interprete his result.There is no LAW in Nigeria empowering MBBS(MDCN) or even MLS(MLSCN) to interprete result.Any one of the two professional that sees the history of the patient can interprete the result.
Let us understand our boundary and respect ourselves.

Read your MLSCN act properly, Scientists are empowered to interprete results they generate.

GogetterMD:

Medical science is large enough for everyone

Why are the nurses and lab technicians angry and frequently on strike in Nigeria, then?

Tellemall:


Why are the nurses and lab technicians angry and frequently on strike in Nigeria, then?

thank God u said lab technicians...well, i haven't heard of lab technicians going on strike

ozo13:
noo sir.they can't .the training is entirely different

Then the consultants have to be Pathologists......
And... I am a MA.

Vickygarl:

Then the consultants have to be Pathologists......
And... I am a MA.

Definitely they are sir.that was why I said those guys(1st n 2nd on call) wr there for training.what is the meaning of MA sir

ozo13:
Definitely they r are sir.that was why I said those guys(1st n 2nd on call) wr there for training.what is the meaning of MA sir

I am a lady.
If the 2nd and 3rd on call are pathologists, then there wouldn't have been any protest. Just saying.

DABMarkNig2019:

in GOPD you said and that's under the supervision of a reg or a medical officer. Yes medical students clerk patients but that is never used in managing or making diagnosis. its solely for training and academic purposes. God sake how can a medical student who hasn't completed his pharmacology prescribe drugs? what institution allows that? Please we shouldn't run each other down cos of rivalry. How can the foremost institution in the middle belt allow such?

Don't mind the clown. He doesn't know what he is talking about. I doubt if he can differentiate a med std from a resident doc. A student may check his Hutchinson PDF sometimes when a patient complains of a symptom to help with clerkship. I was a student in juth until just a month ago so I know.

id4sho:

You just lied, see them plenty for GOPD, all those clinics and those labs. @ permanent site.
Am dating one of the MBBS 500l student too whom I chuk yarns on a regular basis.

Chief stop peddling falsehood. Which 500l med std will date a slowpoke. When we attend to you we are merely doing the boring task of clerkship. Boring because most of us don't enjoy it, but we must clerk you to get consultants to teach us. We get signed for clerking you otherwise my types will barely clerk. Clerking also helps us build the confidence which gradually makes us become the doctors you look forward to meeting in future.

jefdr001:

Chief stop peddling falsehood. Which 500l med std will date a slowpoke. When we attend to you we are merely doing the boring task of clerkship. Boring because most of us don't enjoy it, but we must clerk you to get consultants to teach us. We get signed for clerking you otherwise my types will barely clerk. Clerking also helps us build the confidence which gradually makes us become the doctors you look forward to meeting in future.

park well, you think you are made. Enter the labour market first ,u would know better. what is 500l, girls wey we dey spin any how. foool

Vickygarl:

I am a lady.
If the 2nd and 3rd on call are pathologists, then there wouldn't have been any protest. Just saying.

sorry ,tot u wr a guy.
2nd on call is the senior registrar meaning he had passed the first stage of the exam and got only one More exam to become a specialist/pathologist.2nd on call is not yet a pathologist but a senior registrar.
Those stufs are not based jus on year of experience but u must also write a professional exam which are in stages to qualify one as a pathologist.that's why among the Doctors even someone that have had a lot of experience lets say 12yr or even more will naturally fall behind a specialist/consultant as to who owns a patients. What am I saying in essence. It means all those stuffs in the hospital is by qualification and not merely base on experience.
that's why those Doctors even with their plenty year of experience have gone back to school to specialise.as it is embarrassing seeing someone ur children mate leading u cos of qualification

id4sho:



park well[b],[/b] you think you are made[b].[/b] Enter the labour market first ,u would know better. what is 500l, girls wey we dey spin any how. foool

They also said I can't get admission. Now I'm a doctor. Be positive bro and improve daily even if its use of English.

jefdr001:

They also said I can't get admission. Now I'm a doctor. Be positive bro and improve daily even if its use of English.

This is not exams, I choose to type anything here.
Doctor abi, Am a Surveyor (rare breed). so drop this doc shit, NL gat thousands of professionals here and you are not an exception.

ozo13:
sorry ,tot u wr a guy.
2nd on call is the senior registrar meaning he had passed the first stage of the exam and got only one More exam to become a specialist/pathologist.2nd on call is not yet a pathologist but a senior registrar.
Those stufs are not based jus on year of experience but u must also write a professional exam which are in stages to qualify one as a pathologist.that's why among the Doctors even someone that have had a lot of experience lets say 12yr or even more will naturally fall behind a specialist/consultant as to who owns a patients. What am I saying in essence. It means all those stuffs in the hospital is by qualification and not merely base on experience.
that's why those Doctors even with their plenty year of experience have gone back to school to specialise.as it is embarrassing seeing someone ur children mate leading u cos of qualification

U don't need the long epistle to make a point. I'm familiar with everything u have typed.

Vickygarl:

U don't need the long epistle to make a point. I'm familiar with everything u have typed.

that's why I was surprise . u relating a lab scientist work with that of a resident Doctor.
Are u an MLStist or A pharmacist?

Skyken99:


Thank you for this

You are most welcomed.