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Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by WhyMoD: 8:22am On Oct 27, 2018
xheyi:
Army are taught how to kill...

Hypocrisy has rendered ur education invalid.
are you insane?
What's the job of the army?
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by excel101(m): 8:23am On Oct 27, 2018
Iblad0994:
It's election time and the useless politicians will restart the whole propaganda again. I did a little bit of research on PMB to know if he really graduate from the US Army war college in 1980. According to Wikipedia
" The United States Army War College (USAWC) is a U.S. Army educational institution in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, on the 500-acre (2 km²) campus of the historic Carlisle Barracks. It provides graduate-level instruction to senior military officers and civilians to prepare them for senior leadership assignments and responsibilities. Each year, a number of Army colonels and lieutenant colonels are considered by a board for admission.[4][3] Approximately 800 students attend at any one time, half in a two-year-long distance learning program, and the other half in an on-campus, full-time resident program lasting ten months.Upon completion, the college grants its graduates a master's degree in Strategic Studies."
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_War_College

PMB graduated with a master's degree in strategic studies. It is an insult on the Nigerian army to think that a whole general will not have an equivalent certificate of WAEC. It's just ridiculous.

Attached is some of the pics for proof
Agreed PMB attended the best military school in the world, all Nigerians are saying is that he should provide that little WAEC certificate.
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by Doyin2(m): 8:24am On Oct 27, 2018
oyejideogunjumo:
Am not in support of abusing our leaders bt there is a way to lay this thing to final rest.Even if the certificate is lost or burnt there must be a photocopy which can be used with sworn in affividat and it will be accepted as authentic. Besides ,no establishment takes your original certificate for ever. Even if they sponsor you.they can hold on to the original for a period of time to serve them . Besides he is the commander in chief now. He can easily order for it instead of allowing this
photocopy in the sixties?

You must be a Clown grin

Meanwhile Akinrinade had spoken:

Why is it annoying?
It is an insult to the armed forces — a terrible insult to the armed forces. If they are so embedded in the system and they have lost their souls, then they can go ahead and join everybody else in castigating a General of Buhari’s calibre. They are now talking about a school certificate. What is that? By the time he joined the army, in those days, there were no cutting corners. It is later when these same civilians took over from the army that admission into it became less transparent. I can give you an instance.
There was Course Five around 1964: if one did not have a school certificate one couldn’t apply to join the army. And I know up to 1963 when the last General Officer Commanding left Nigeria, there were no corners to be cut. There was no such thing. Everything was on merit. And, that was how it was till Buhari’s time. Buhari attended the Mons (Officer Cadet School in Aldershot in England) and the Staff College; I don’t want to think they have an idea what they teach in those places. And the rest of us pretend as if we don’t know what they do there. You send a man to America for one and a half years in a military school. Do they think he just went there to learn how to fire a rifle? No.
But why is it difficult for Buhari to produce the original copy of the certificate?
He did. As I speak to you, I don’t know where my original certificate is because we gave the original to the Military Board. They took it from us when we applied to join the Army. You give the original copy of credential to the board. They take it and keep it in your file, that’s what happened. How many years ago? 50 years. And Nigeria with our (poor) record-keeping and filing things into an archive -if we have an archive at all; an archive inhabited by rats and cockroaches. I think it’s an insult. I take it as a personal insult.

https://www.legit.ng/381051-questioning-buharis-cert-is-an-insult-gen-akinrinade.html
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by WhyMoD: 8:25am On Oct 27, 2018
spiritedtete:
You are very wrong sir... The highest knowledge in the world is with the army... And not just how to kill... We have engineers ... Doctors and all in the army... The army teaches you everything... Depending on the area they want you to specialize on.
wrong..
The engineer repairs the equipments meant for killing.

The doctor in the army treats and heals the soldiers to continue killing.

In all they have a so single mission.
To kill
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by GuntersChain(m): 8:25am On Oct 27, 2018
Looking for the lifeless one certificate.

Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by nifty60(m): 8:26am On Oct 27, 2018
Iblad0994:
Lol. What do you need WAEC for when he had a master's degree in strategic studies in his chosen field.

He already highlighted the reason why he wasn't able to present his WAEC and i think that is due to the coup that got him imprisoned. You can go ahead and challenge it in the court if you want. It's just like someone asking a Master's degree holder to provide his WAEC result to show that he is not an academic illiterate. That's dumb
For ur mind u don confuse us. Last l checked an O level cert. is required for even a diploma. So any higher educational cert. gotten without it is a fraud
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by Amacaco: 8:27am On Oct 27, 2018
Some people say Buhari has a Masters in strategic studies and therefore no need asking for WAEC. Why has he not made the Masters degree certificates available to INEC instead of resorting to affidavits. If it is with the army headquarters as alleged, why can't he Direct them to send these certificates to him. He could have all these years gotten certified true copies from WAEC and the institution he did his Masters degree. By the way, why is Buhari the only army officer whose certificates are being kept by the army and why?
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by Olumeme: 8:27am On Oct 27, 2018
I think people are not getting something here.
WAEC is the bedrock of that masters or degree certificate.

If for example, you are a PhD holder and it was discovered that you forged your waec to get admission for your degree, it then makes that degrees null and void because, you were not qualified for it in the first place.
Its a stage, you move up the ladder gradually, if you manipulated a stage, then that stage you are is fraudulent.

Nobody is arguing that buhari didn't go to war college, we are saying that he was not qualified to proceed to that war college because he didn't have the requirement.
If it can be proven that he didn't have WAEC or O'level, then that army war college certification is not valid.

How can you tell us to face issues when the certificate of our would be president is fraudulent, which issue can be greater than that?
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by FBIL: 8:28am On Oct 27, 2018
Dele Momodu, that's not what we mean! Atiku Abubakar has all kinds of certificates obtained from short/long courses in the Customs & Excise. But he has a Diploma in Law from ABU Zaria and ''school certs'' which were prerequisites for his admission into ABU. Above all, our constitution stipulates possession of SCHOOL CERTIFICATE, as Sine Qua Non for contesting any election. Buhari should resign or be disqualified by INEC.
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by WhyMoD: 8:28am On Oct 27, 2018
Ategberoson:
what about those studying courses like engineering, accounting and other courses in NDA? you are so dumb to know their training there is not restricted to only war
you're so dumb not to know that all the other training areas all converge at one purpose.. killing.

The engineer repairs the machines and equipments used to killing..

The accounts pays the killers.
Their doctors treats them to continue killing..

You don't think beyond your ur eyes
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by WhyMoD: 8:30am On Oct 27, 2018
mfm04622:
As an officer, you are taught how to lead men! The higher your rank, the more men you lead to achieve set objective with resources you have. It is the recruits that kill.
you lead men to do what? Dance?

You lead then to kill..
Stop being a baby. Use ur brains
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by ladman(m): 8:30am On Oct 27, 2018
sorom4:
It's not just about the certificate...its also about lieing under oath that he had one.
And we all should know that all those military courses that he got are invalid because WAEC (which he doesnt have) was the prerequisite which he used to train on those.
Despite the many likes, you are still wrong. Arguing about this again is a waste of time and energy. It's time PDP bring out issue based opinions rather than certificate.
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by WhyMoD: 8:30am On Oct 27, 2018
BALLOSKI:
This also shows you lack knowledge of what you're talking about.
boring
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by Ategberoson(m): 8:31am On Oct 27, 2018
WhyMoD:
you're so dumb not to know that all the other training areas all converge at one purpose.. killing.

The engineer repairs the machines and equipments used to killing..

The accounts pays the killers.
Their doctors treats them to continue killing..

You don't think beyond your ur eyes
and the accounting students there are repairing money for the war?



may my enemy not be as foolish as you're


you're a shame to the sane public
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by WhyMoD: 8:32am On Oct 27, 2018
Iamgrey5:
You think the military are simply rebels right ?

You know nothing
rebels?
A doctor is trained to heal
A soldier is trained to kill.

I don't like non-thinkers
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by WhyMoD: 8:33am On Oct 27, 2018
Ategberoson:
and the accounting students there are repairing money for the war?



may my enemy not be as foolish as you're


you're a shame to the sane public
accounting pay them for jobs well-done.
And you know the job they did? Killing..

I hate non-thinkers
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by buhariguy(m): 8:33am On Oct 27, 2018
dyydxx:
so why can't he present this instead of hiding under some invisible military board?
if arm robbers came to your house to rob you and took away your document,
How will you present the same document that is with the arm robbers.?
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by bencr7: 8:34am On Oct 27, 2018
Doyin2:
Which oath are you talking about?People like you just vomit rubbish without evidence.
u be real mumu was katsina state created in 1961,is it not 1987.
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by Mankosi: 8:34am On Oct 27, 2018
Sometimes when I see people rant online I wonder what they benefit from there. Pmb or no pmb how does it benefit u guys?
Buhari don't know me and I don't know him, atiku don't know me and I don't know him too. We might be thinking we know these people but the truth is we don't know them so let's stop insulting ourselves online because of them. They don't really care about u and they will not care about u if not we won't be where we are today if they care.
As for people defending Apc and pdp alike I wonder when u guys will learn........
Each time I open a thread on nairaland all I see is politics even the one that have nothing to do with politics we must bring politics into it and start bashing ourselves. It's sickening that we the youths have turned everything to Politics in this country......and from the look of things it's not stopping anytime soon....
Pls let's collectively hold our leaders responsible cos they have failed this nation and stop taking sides cos it won't help us at all.
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by olajizz01(m): 8:35am On Oct 27, 2018
buhariguy:
if he lie under oath, why not charge him to court.
The cowards will never do that,they prefer ranting like mad dog
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by Glink2018(m): 8:38am On Oct 27, 2018
WhyMoD:
There's a minimum requirements to being a president of a country. And the last time I checked being in the army wasn't that minimum. Secular education is..


In the army you're only taught how to kill..
And nothing more. But secular education teaches critical thinking and empathy too

Oh is that why Nigeria has turned to graveyard since Bubu's inception
Your argument is wrong. Who told you, all they teach In war college is how to kill? Lie from mofo crew.

. So, lemme come down to your level of thinking...
So, all they teach in naval college is how to swim and paddle a ship , abi?
More of what you do in the regular University is also taught in this military school as a general courses. (GNS)
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by buhariguy(m): 8:40am On Oct 27, 2018
excel101:
Agreed PMB attended the best military school in the world, all Nigerians are saying is that he should provide that little WAEC certificate.
buhariguy:
if arm robbers came to your house to rob you and took away your document,
How will you present the same document that is with the arm robbers.?
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by imehjunior(m): 8:41am On Oct 27, 2018
deomelo:
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeleMomodu/status/1055925792352411649
No one is questioning his military certificates or service. It's his WAEC certificate that's the issue . If you enter a university with fake WAEC results , when the university finds out they withdraw your certificate. Why would he hire SANS to defend the WAEC certificate when he can simply ask for it. Most importantly who gives original copies to their employers.
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by oyejideogunjumo: 8:45am On Oct 27, 2018
Doyin2:
photocopy in the sixties?

You must be a Clown grin

Meanwhile Akinrinade had spoken:

Why is it annoying?
It is an insult to the armed forces — a terrible insult to the armed forces. If they are so embedded in the system and they have lost their souls, then they can go ahead and join everybody else in castigating a General of Buhari’s calibre. They are now talking about a school certificate. What is that? By the time he joined the army, in those days, there were no cutting corners. It is later when these same civilians took over from the army that admission into it became less transparent. I can give you an instance.
There was Course Five around 1964: if one did not have a school certificate one couldn’t apply to join the army. And I know up to 1963 when the last General Officer Commanding left Nigeria, there were no corners to be cut. There was no such thing. Everything was on merit. And, that was how it was till Buhari’s time. Buhari attended the Mons (Officer Cadet School in Aldershot in England) and the Staff College; I don’t want to think they have an idea what they teach in those places. And the rest of us pretend as if we don’t know what they do there. You send a man to America for one and a half years in a military school. Do they think he just went there to learn how to fire a rifle? No.
But why is it difficult for Buhari to produce the original copy of the certificate?
He did. As I speak to you, I don’t know where my original certificate is because we gave the original to the Military Board. They took it from us when we applied to join the Army. You give the original copy of credential to the board. They take it and keep it in your file, that’s what happened. How many years ago? 50 years. And Nigeria with our (poor) record-keeping and filing things into an archive -if we have an archive at all; an archive inhabited by rats and cockroaches. I think it’s an insult. I take it as a personal insult.

https://www.legit.ng/381051-questioning-buharis-cert-is-an-insult-gen-akinrinade.html
I will ignore ur insult and concentrate on the issue. There is no job without it's own hazard. When u choose a professional who must have weighed all sides. While I appreciate the efforts of the military yet law is law. There may not be photocopy in the sixties as u said but no matter what since technology has provided for that years back in 70s one should have done that. Better still write to the institution to give us something as evidence. I don't doubt our President and our generals but if I were in their shoes I would have done something. No birth certificate in the past but out great grand father's attached birth to market days or war or something. If at that time they tried to keep records I think something could be done to lay this issue to rest once and for all
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by MzLee: 8:48am On Oct 27, 2018
This one weak me�
sorom4:
I don't know what to tell you make e no be like say I dey insult you
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by ladman(m): 8:48am On Oct 27, 2018
WhyMoD:
There's a minimum requirements to being a president of a country. And the last time I checked being in the army wasn't that minimum. Secular education is..


In the army you're only taught how to kill..
And nothing more. But secular education teaches critical thinking and empathy too

Oh is that why Nigeria has turned to graveyard since Bubu's inception
Damn it, this is my statement of the day. So ridiculous. Do some research before you post. Don't be lazy.
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by Doyin2(m): 8:49am On Oct 27, 2018
imehjunior:
No one is questioning his military certificates or service. It's his WAEC certificate that's the issue . If you enter a university with fake WAEC results , when the university finds out they withdraw your certificate. Why would he hire SANS to defend the WAEC certificate when he can simply ask for it. Most importantly who gives original copies to their employers.
So what is fake in Buhari's Waec?

You guys have just chosen to remain blind,daft and deaf.

dailypost.ng/2015/01/28/cambridge-assessment-publishes-details-confirming-buharis-wasc-results/

https://www.legit.ng/381051-questioning-buharis-cert-is-an-insult-gen-akinrinade.html

Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by dyydxx: 8:51am On Oct 27, 2018
buhariguy:
if arm robbers came to your house to rob you and took away your document,
How will you present the same document that is with the arm robbers.?
But with educational certificates you can always go back to the issuing institutions to get a statement. why hasn't buhari done this thing?
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by NairaMaster1(m): 8:51am On Oct 27, 2018
deomelo:
PMB obtained a Diploma, now Masters Degree from the best and finest Military Institution in the world and these useless ipobs are talking about a measly certificate.


ipobs are the most useless, ignorant and unintelligent people on the surface of the earth.
So the Diploma has turned to master degree because the school started awarding master?

A diploma is diploma. That the school awarded degree means they stepped up to degree, then master.

Let sentiment release your brain.

That Harvard and Oxford award PhD does not make their Diploma equivalent to PhD.

People will laugh at you outside Nigeria when you travel out and tell them your president Diploma is equivalent to Masters.
Re: Dele Momodu Speaks On Buhari's Certificate (Photo) by bonusblack: 8:52am On Oct 27, 2018
I am a graduate of accounting from a federal university and currently a qualified accountant but still cant work with PWC or Kpmg just because my o'level is two sittings... And now we are saying Buhari's qualification in strategic studies should surpass waec. If we say demanding his certificate is an insult to the whole Nigerian Army, then asking for my o'level in one sitting is an insult to Ican and Nigerian universities. Period!!!
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