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WetinConsignMe:


All these are the most important things to u moslems. In Christianity what

matters is the inner man, whether the Spirit lives in u or not




Yyyes u have a point, this reminds me of DANIEL in the Bible whose name is the name of the god of Nebuchadnezzar. Daniels was named by the king after the name of his idol god yet the almighty God never seize to answer Daniel when he prays to him because he see's his heart that he worships God and not idol of the king.

WetinConsignMe:
Shalom nothing. What that tells u is that in Chistianity the emphasis is not on any book or ritual. The emphasis is on the inner man

CHRISTIANS ARE FREE!!

Ok I see your understanding about Christianity



By the way shallom mean peace


So

Peace

WetinConsignMe:
We Chritians go by EXPERIENCE. Not myopic logic by pea-brained humans. By EXPERIENCE we know the name Jesus WORKS, and that dark forces are afraid of it

Losing the argument. Here comes the abuse and insult. Go on keep praising Ja-Zeus.

freemi:
though dat is hw it is pronouncd in akwa ibom. .pls i am nt shakin tables o

maybe akwa ibomites are yews

The man made an intelligent point, I'm surprised why people attack him on social media for this. He came up with an argument, justice demands that he is challenged with counterfacts and not counter claims that are based on religious sentiment.


Let me say this, Nigerians have fell too deep in the pit of religion. The most developed countries on earth are not the most religious nations. We need to reexamine our beliefs system!

yomi96:
This guy used to make sense before, now na opkata yarn e dey talk. The name Jesus is proven and tested. He can go to hell with his bs rethorics

Must you comment?

delugajackson:
I'm begining to suspect that this guy is an antichrist. Beware of false prophets, my people.

And you think that your penticostal pastors are telling you the truth?

Controversial OAP and online pastor, Daddy Freeze says 99% of what our Pastors and GOs taught us is false.

According to him, the word 'Jesus' has no meaning and was invented by manipulators. Read his post below...

"

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpmVxtwAQ5t/

https://www.amagitesblog.com/2018/10/it-has-no-meaning-daddy-freeze-codemns-the-name-jesus. Please, let psychiatrists quickly attend to this guy called Daddy freeze before it get out of hand.Let's pray for him before his village people finish him.....God have mercy on him for he know not what he is saying.

strenghtt:
yes u have a point, this reminds me of DANIEL in the Bible whose name is the name of the god of Nebuchadnezzar. Daniels was named by the king after the name of his idol god yet the almighty God never seize to answer Daniel when he prays to him because he see's his heart that he worships God and not idol of the king.

Yes, Yahweh knew Daniels' love for him. Daniel didn't worship a fake GOD.

It is only the foolish ones who does not know that the name of our saviour is not jesus but Yeshua.

Christianity is not a religion, it takes a man with an encounter to teach you anything about the bible i'll advice you don't put up an argument of what you don't really know. the bible say judge not "Matt 7:1" and "James 4:12"who made you a judge. if you want to know more about JESUS, YESHUA YEHUSHUA Call for the intervention of the holy spirit. John 14:26. There is mystery behind the name we are all debating on so i'll advice we all go and ask God for clarity don't forget that the bible was translated by human through inspiration.

WetinConsignMe:
Not necessary because Christianity is internal. We are guided by Spirit not rites and rituals. We are guided more by Spirit than by any book

. For real? We are now guided by the spirit more than the book? When even God said he exalts his words above his throne? Mr man, you guys have confused the work of the holy spirit, and that's why more churches keeps springing up like what i don't know. A pastor will claim the holy spirit is leading him, another one will the holy spirit is leading him, to where exactly? To establish more churches abi? The BIBLE is the standard for all, if you like make your holy spirit hot pass fire, and as such should be in a language, so that we all will agree on one meaning of any particular verse. Not having 10000000000 meaning of just a verse, and we blame it on the holy spirit.

Tessyama1:
Controversial OAP and online pastor, Daddy Freeze says 99% of what our Pastors and GOs taught us is false.

According to him, the word 'Jesus' has no meaning and was invented by manipulators. Read his post below...

"

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpmVxtwAQ5t/

https://www.amagitesblog.com/2018/10/it-has-no-meaning-daddy-freeze-codemns-the-name-jesus.html

i have been suspecting this guy to be an Antichrist all these while, now hes has cleared any atom of doubts i was having. Teaching from the pit of hell

So how many souls will this win for Christ...what a lack of wisdom by Freeze. Who told him we have no knowledge of this before now, and who's Freeze to tell me what name I should preferably give my saviour . He is really spiritually sickened.

ollah2:
Just imagine what a supposed Christian wrote simply because someone wrote what she isn't in agreement with. These are the same people that claim to be peaceful and tolerant yet wish death upon a fellow man due to disagreement. Whew!!

I did not wish him dead. His action speaks volume of his later end because by their fruits you shall know them.
You don't make mockery of God's anointed and think you'll end well.
I pray he retrace his steps back!

Seun:
Daddy Freeze is absolutely right that the original name of Jesus is 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'. The 'controversy' here is about whether or not the translated versions of this name in other languages, such as Ιησούς (Greek), Jesus (English), Jesu(Yoruba), Jizọs(Igbo), Yesu(Hausa), and Isa(Arabic) are as potent against demons, and for causing prayers to be instantly answered, as his original Jewish name, 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'.

One could argue that there is no magic in any of the names: they've all been used against ISIS and Boko Haram and none of them worked.

Poo

The name of Jesus Christ is a strong and mighty name i am a living witness that it works Wonders

nwabekeyi:
he's Right, analyze it without sentiments.

Jesus has no meaning in Hebrew, tells a lot about a man who was said to be an Hebrew.

Jesus was a roman concoction.

L's

Clap for yourself

Seun:
Daddy Freeze is absolutely right that the original name of Jesus is 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'. The 'controversy' here is about whether or not the translated versions of this name in other languages, such as Ιησούς (Greek), Jesus (English), Jesu(Yoruba), Jizọs(Igbo), Yesu(Hausa), and Isa(Arabic) are as potent against demons, and for causing prayers to be instantly answered, as his original Jewish name, 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'.

One could argue that there is no magic in any of the names: they've all been used against ISIS and Boko Haram and none of them worked.

Maybe you don't know that even your name is Ṣeun in some quarters in Yorubaland and Seun in other places in the same Yorubaland. The voicing of a word changes within a culture not to talk about distanced people. People will call your name the way they are able to pronounce it, if you're available you may have to correct them on the way you are called if not nothing happens.
James Rodriguez is pronounce ames by the Spaniards but the English call him James. Vincent is pronounced vansont by the French does this change his name? I wonder what type of weed that idiot freze is taking and you what usually come over you when you see antichristian stories on nairaland

thorpido:
You don't compare Muslims and Christians.It's like comparing oranges and apples.
Christianity is not a religion(yea I know many people don't understand that).Religious people follow rules just like in a school.Christianity is a relationship,like a father with the son.
When you relate well with your father,you begin to understand him and do what he loves without being controlled by rules.
That being said,a lot of books(best sellers)have been written in other languages and translated.That doesn't invalidate those books.
A popular film titled,'The good, the bad and the ugly' originally had an Italian title.You know it by the English title,it doesn't take anything away from the film.
We are not all Hebrews.Languages will be translated!It doesn't take anything away from the original.God revealed himself first to the Hebrews but His desire is that all men may know Him.We can't know Him only in Hebrew.That's a relgious mentality and Christianity isn't.

As per wearing robes and gowns as the Jews did,it was THEIR cultural wears!Other countries have theirs.We do not have to dress like Jews.God didn't give us that instruction.Religious people may dress the same because that is all they know in the limitation of their religious knowledge.

Jesus said,if I have spoken to you of earthly things and ye believe not,how shall you believe if I speak of heavenly things?John 3:12.Knowledge is not at the same level.

The early Christians faced a lot of persecution and were always fleeing from one place to the other.You expect them to celebrate Christmas under persecution?Life is progressive.

May God bless your knowledge bro

"Christianity is not a religion(yea I know many people don't understand that).Religious people follow rules just like in a school.Christianity is a relationship,like a father with the son"

This the dictionary meaning of religion
"the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods"


So I don't think it's right for you to say "Christianity is not a religion" just like school Christianity has rules that's why we have the Bible the word of God not the word of pastors
And to say "Christianity is relationship,like a father with the son" come-on it more than that

We worship God like a boss, that why we have cry and beg to do something for us,
That why he can punish us when we offend him
That why he test us to know how much we believe in him(sometime this test are tough more than how our earthly father will)
GOD IS THE BOSS AND WE HAVE TO WORSHIP HIM that is what is called religion.


So Christianity is like Islam, Judaism, Hinduism etc

You said Life is progressive but the words of God never change

And please stop giving excuses for Christmas
Don't get me wrong
I love Christmas too but you and know it has nothing to with Christianity

Shallom

gbigbega:
Yes he will. The name Emmanuel is called Emma, Eman, in my village they call it Manu. So no matter which of them you call, a person bearing Emmanuel will answer even in Antarctica. The only thing is that the person will know the origin, tribe or relationship of the caller.

E.g. if somebody calls Manu, in London, he will know that is village people as located him again in London.

The name "Jesus" is an Anglicized variation of "Yeshu" which is a curse to blot out the name of the Messiah.

Shortening the name may read another meaning

For example, yeshua is shortening or corrupt to Yeshu in (Hebrew) is also jesu in (Yoruba) which is a curse to "blot out" His name

In china , the Messiah is also called "Yesu" - NOT realizing it actually means "May His name be obliterated" or wiped out.

Jesus the false name

Yeshu versus Yeshua

Lets look at the history of the letter J

We know from historical records that the letter J did not exist in the Hebrew, Greek, or Latin alphabets as dady freeze point out.

It wasn't until later in the 1600s that the letter J was first used in the English language.

The King James 1611 version contains no letter J.

So therefore we know that the name Jesus did not exist prior to the 1600s.

So what was the Messiah real name ?

Yeshua

From the Ancient Aramaic texts we know that the Messiah's real name was Yeshua.

So why was this name so poorly transliterated by the Greek and Latin translators ?

Yeshua in scriptures often clashed with the scribes and pharasees.

As an insult his name of Yeshua was shortened to Yeshu.

So what does Yeshu mean ?

Yeshu is actually an acronym meaning may his name and memory be obliterated or wiped out

So in actuality the corruption of the name from yeshu to jesus in modern time is an insult or cursed

Kai! I have been keeping quite about this daddy freeze matter. But now I know that this man has been empowered from the pit of hell to cause problems in the Body of Christ. So he has graduated from blaspheming against men of God, now even to the name of Jesus. And some confused people are stupidly following him. All these ranting freeze is ranting about the name of JESUS, Philipians. 2:5-10 answers it all.
I can see that this man is really heading towards great doom and I pity those people following him.

thorpido:
You don't compare Muslims and Christians.It's like comparing oranges and apples.
Christianity is not a religion(yea I know many people don't understand that).Religious people follow rules just like in a school.Christianity is a relationship,like a father with the son.
When you relate well with your father,you begin to understand him and do what he loves without being controlled by rules.
That being said,a lot of books(best sellers)have been written in other languages and translated.That doesn't invalidate those books.
A popular film titled,'The good, the bad and the ugly' originally had an Italian title.You know it by the English title,it doesn't take anything away from the film.
We are not all Hebrews.Languages will be translated!It doesn't take anything away from the original.God revealed himself first to the Hebrews but His desire is that all men may know Him.We can't know Him only in Hebrew.That's a relgious mentality and Christianity isn't.

As per wearing robes and gowns as the Jews did,it was THEIR cultural wears!Other countries have theirs.We do not have to dress like Jews.God didn't give us that instruction.Religious people may dress the same because that is all they know in the limitation of their religious knowledge.

Jesus said,if I have spoken to you of earthly things and ye believe not,how shall you believe if I speak of heavenly things?John 3:12.Knowledge is not at the same level.

The early Christians faced a lot of persecution and were always fleeing from one place to the other.You expect them to celebrate Christmas under persecution?Life is progressive.

May God bless your knowledge bro

"Christianity is not a religion(yea I know many people don't understand that).Religious people follow rules just like in a school.Christianity is a relationship,like a father with the son"

This the dictionary meaning of religion
"the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods"


So I don't think it's right for you to say "Christianity is not a religion" just like school Christianity has rules that's why we have the Bible the word of God not the word of pastors
And to say "Christianity is relationship,like a father with the son" come-on it more than that

We worship God like a boss, that why we have cry and beg to do something for us,
That why he can punish us when we offend him
That why he test us to know how much we believe in him(sometime this test are tough more than how our earthly father will)
GOD IS THE BOSS AND WE HAVE TO WORSHIP HIM that is what is called religion.


So Christianity is like Islam, Judaism, Hinduism etc

You said Life is progressive but the words of God never change

And please stop giving excuses for Christmas
Don't get me wrong
I love Christmas too but you and know it has nothing to with Christianity

Shallom

Seun:
Daddy Freeze is absolutely right that the original name of Jesus is 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'. The 'controversy' here is about whether or not the translated versions of this name in other languages, such as Ιησούς (Greek), Jesus (English), Jesu(Yoruba), Jizọs(Igbo), Yesu(Hausa), and Isa(Arabic) are as potent against demons, and for causing prayers to be instantly answered, as his original Jewish name, 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'.

One could argue that there is no magic in any of the names: they've all been used against ISIS and Boko Haram and none of them worked.

Maybe you don't know that even your name is Ṣeun (shey-hun) in some quarters in Yorubaland and Seun (say-un) in other places in the same Yorubaland. The voicing of a word changes within a culture not to talk about distanced people. People will call your name the way they are able to pronounce it, if you're available you may have to correct them on the way you are called if not nothing happens.
James Rodriguez is pronounce ames by the Spaniards but the English call him James. Vincent is pronounced vansont by the French does this change his name? I wonder what type of weed that idiot freze is taking and you what usually come over you when you see antichristian stories on nairaland

[quote author=Rayhila post=72589192]Kai! I have been keeping quite about this daddy freeze matter. But now I know that this man has been empowered from the pit of hell to cause problems in the Body of Christ. So he has graduated from blaspheming against men of God, now even to the name of Jesus. And some confused people are stupidly following him. All these ranting freeze is ranting about the name of JESUS, Philipians. 2:5-10 answers it all.
I can see that this man is really heading towards great doom and I pity those people following

He claimed the Jews have no sound J in their language and for that reason the J in Jesus is invalid but the same J in the word Jew is valid right? This guy is disturbed by the spirit of Antichrist

paxonel:
Even the hebrew language and a lot of it pronunciation have evolve over time, to what is known as today hebrew language how much more names.

Another 1 million years from now do you think that name jesus will still be in vogue?

The name will change to something else, but it will still be noted that someone was crucified a million years ago to save mankind from sin with some other name known to the people of that era.

So, i dont know what freeze is shouting?
What will be will surely be.

Do you think YHWH name will soon be abrogated.

ozimec:
i have been suspecting this guy to be an Antichrist all these while, now hes has cleared any atom of doubts i was having. Teaching from the pit of hell

We learn everyday

I wonder why Christians always try to be double sided

The Bible was not related to "Jesus" in English

It was related to him in a language which he speaks Hebrew and Aramaic

So it's very logical to believe that the best way to understand God's words is to learn it in the language which God reviled it

Look at the Moslems they still call their God "Allah" and Christians don't even agree with that, I know Mohammed most have an English meaning but they still call it the original way they still read Koran in Arabic language even though many of them can not even speak the language

So I believe Christians too should do the same

Don't swallow all what this white men bring

Why read the Bible in English when the original text is in Hebrew and Aramaic

Why call Jesus when the original name is Yehoshua

Why call God when the original word is ʼĔlāhā, or Elah

Why read KGV of the Bible and not the original version

Why ware coats and tie to church when first Christians wore long gown and robe
O! U might say that old school
But Moslems are doing it
The Buddhist are doing it
The Hindu are doing it

Why celebrate Christmas when the first Christians never did

So please don't condemn freeze his try to show something that has long been over looked

And now some already calling him Antichrist while I really think he's Pro-christ


Shallom

rhektor:
Maybe you don't know that even your name is Ṣeun (shey-hun) in some quarters in Yorubaland and Seun (say-un) in other places in the same Yorubaland. The voicing of a word changes within a culture not to talk about distanced people. People will call your name the way they are able to pronounce it, if you're available you may have to correct them on the way you are called if not nothing happens.
James Rodriguez is pronounce ames by the Spaniards but the English call him James. Vincent is pronounced vansont by the French does this change his name? I wonder what type of weed that idiot freze is taking and you what usually come over you when you see antichristian stories on nairaland

We learn everyday

I wonder why Christians always try to be double sided

The Bible was not related to "Jesus" in English

It was related to him in a language which he speaks Hebrew and Aramaic

So it's very logical to believe that the best way to understand God's words is to learn it in the language which God reviled it

Look at the Moslems they still call their God "Allah" and Christians don't even agree with that, I know Mohammed most have an English meaning but they still call it the original way they still read Koran in Arabic language even though many of them can not even speak the language

So I believe Christians too should do the same

Don't swallow all what this white men bring

Why read the Bible in English when the original text is in Hebrew and Aramaic

Why call Jesus when the original name is Yehoshua

Why call God when the original word is ʼĔlāhā, or Elah

Why read KGV of the Bible and not the original version

Why ware coats and tie to church when first Christians wore long gown and robe
O! U might say that old school
But Moslems are doing it
The Buddhist are doing it
The Hindu are doing it

Why celebrate Christmas when the first Christians never did

So please don't condemn freeze his try to show something that has long been over looked

And now some already calling him Antichrist while I really think he's Pro-christ


Shallom

Lilimax:
I did not wish him dead. His action speaks volume of his later end because by their fruits you shall know them.
You don't make mockery of God's anointed and think you'll end well.
I pray he retrace his steps back!

Freeze is not making a mockery of the 'son of man', everything he's said his debatable. We don't have to resort to defending God, show ur facts and win the argument.

adenine02:
May God bless your knowledge bro

"Christianity is not a religion(yea I know many people don't understand that).Religious people follow rules just like in a school.Christianity is a relationship,like a father with the son"

This the dictionary meaning of religion
"the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods"


So I don't think it's right for you to say "Christianity is not a religion" just like school Christianity has rules that's why we have the Bible the word of God not the word of pastors
And to say "Christianity is relationship,like a father with the son" come-on it more than that

We worship God like a boss, that why we have cry and beg to do something for us,
That why he can punish us when we offend him
That why he test us to know how much we believe in him(sometime this test are tough more than how our earthly father will)
GOD IS THE BOSS AND WE HAVE TO WORSHIP HIM that is what is called religion.


So Christianity is like Islam, Judaism, Hinduism etc

You said Life is progressive but the words of God never change

And please stop giving excuses for Christmas
Don't get me wrong
I love Christmas too but you and know it has nothing to with Christianity

Shallom

The dictionary doesn't define Christianity.The dictionary definitions were coined by linguists NOT spiritualists. They defined based on their understanding.Remember Jesus said many things that made some people say he was blaspheming.There is a higher knowledge.

We do not always have to cry and beg God to do something for us.Like I said earlier,there are levels of relationship.Jesus said,' the Father is with me........for I do those things that please Him'.John 8:29.Again He said, 'i no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.John15:15.See,it's servants and people with servant mentality that always have to 'beg and cry' to God.The bible says we are sons and 'cry'(meaning speak loud) Aba Father.He's Boss but He's our Father.

A lot of practices in Christianity were not given as rules.The Bible never said 'Celebrate Christianity every December as part of your worship'.However Christmas celebrates the birth of Jesus(forget about Christmas trees,decorations,father Christmas etc) and that is not outside Christian worship.

Yes,the Word of God remains the same but it changes us.