₦airaland Forum

Wiseandtrue:
Rotimi Amaechi was the chairman of governors forum then and now, he is in APC.

Shall we say that he is the origin of the problem then

As I recall he opposed it vehemently!

It was Saraki's led governor's forum that took federal government to court or the issue. He later handed over to Amaechi. So...?

Kwamecron:
Nigerians are the problems of themswlf
Especially those ipob ppl that think they are very industrial but rather import fake drug and product into the country and expired material to jopadize the life of its citizen. Always beating drum of war and making the country ungovernable. That's why most of the are illiterates

It's funny that someone whose short write up is full of grammatical and spelling mistakes has the nerve to call others illiterate..THE IRONY..

overall90:
what changed is that PDP is fielding an igbo VP instead ofyoruba and nothing more.

I disagree on her behalf. She raised strong points in her comment which I quoted and made some reasonable points in the topic she created too. Leave ethnicity out of this, bros.

What a very funny video

OneManLegion:
I disagree on her behalf. She raised strong points in her comment which I quoted and made some reasonable points in the topic she created too. Leave ethnicity out of this, bros.

try and be sincere.
her write is full of bile and not a single truth.
what has Buhari done between March April and now to warrant her change of opinion.?
and how can she the only minister that performed in Gej government is only Yoruba
was a Yoruba Minster that revamped the railway,the airports that were built several years ago,the new universities and almajiri schools etc.
on debts,the pdp government left about 7 billion in external debts,Buhari has borrowed about 10 billion in three years.
Buhari came and abandoned the 2nd Niger bridge while busy doing all other projects in different parts of the country.
on Niger delta avengers,immediately Buhari took over.the first thing he did was to bomb cross river and went after Tompolo for selling land to government,something he would have done through legal means and this was what led to the avengers.
on IPOB,Kanu have been broadcasting from London and the previous government ignored him until buhari arrested him and that is what led to the protests and escalation of the agitation.
I can go on to debunk every lie the idiot posted but let me just stop here.

nzeobi:
those he blamed are still members of the APC, amaechi, aregbeshola and many of the APC governors insisted the money be shared and when it was done the used theirs to fund buhari's election and leaving their states in huge debt.

tell me howmany governors win under apc back in 2015?

lionness:
GEJ left a staggering debt all the money looted by his Ebos ministers and cabinets. The only real minister in GEJs cabinet was a Yoruba man who handled agriculture, every other minister were criminals and failures. Even Obi was part of those crooks. And I'm supposed to vote for a thief who did absolutely nothing in his state and left heaps of gbese. and Bubu has now saved over $20 billion and borrowed less. Bubu met dozens of saboteurs, from sponsored MEND who bombed oil lines for over two years to IPOBS who tried to kill his government and a rogue and useless NASS controlled by the opposition among delayed bills and sickness. You know when they say someone is Godsent and willing to do something with little. Yet the same man is fixing Lagos Ibadan, Sagamu, Lagos Aboekuta road, Rail lines linking Lagos Ogun and Oyo. Rail lines linking PH and Abuja and Lagos etc. we have better light and Bokoharam reduced to protesting and newts. Baba met a dead country, and today you see jobs posting daily on nairaland, only the useless youths stay on nairaland blaming their forefathers daily...a lot is happening and Thats why the Indians and Chinese are flooding the country. Bubu is building the Niger Bridge for these useless ingrates, fixing several SE roads that their gods and sons who looted the country dry didn't do for them. Atleast you know some folks are pathetically in love with corruption and trash...
PDP has shown it's a criminal entity with adopting those big thieves and flanking itself with all the confirmed looters of NASS. My SE and their love for looters. Hian!

bubu borrowed less? now I know u r jst saying what u don't know and pple liking ur post don't really know what dey r doing too. zombies every where

overall90:
try and be sincere.
her write is full of bile and not a single truth.
what has Buhari done between March April and now to warrant her change of opinion.?
and how can she the only minister that performed in Gej government is only Yoruba
was a Yoruba Minster that revamped the railway,the airports that were built several years ago,the new universities and almajiri schools etc.
on debts,the pdp government left about 7 billion in external debts,Buhari has borrowed about 10 billion in three years.
Buhari came and abandoned the 2nd Niger bridge while busy doing all other projects in different parts of the country.
on Niger delta avengers,immediately Buhari took over.the first thing he did was to bomb cross river and went after Tompolo for selling land to government,something he would have done through legal means and this was what led to the avengers.
on IPOB,Kanu have been broadcasting from London and the previous government ignored him until buhari arrested him and that is what led to the protests and escalation of the agitation.
I can go on to debunk every lie the idiot posted but let me just stop here.

You have brought intelligent discourse to the table.
Very well, then.

1. The topic she created criticised Buhari for supposedly failing the youths, not a general failure in governance. I don't know what has changed since then to occasion the shift but I do know she may be aversed - as I am - to an Atiku presidency.

2. I don't agree with her statement that the only competent minister the last administration had was Akinwunmi Adesina, but generally speaking, the ministers were as bad as the presidency on behalf of which they worked. We must also remember that Adesina was not the only Yoruba minister the last administration had so why single him out for praise if the motive is borne of ethnic bias?

3. It is true that under this administration, the country's debt profile has significantly risen but leaving it at that will be telling but part of the story. The debts were procured to boost our infrastructure (through SUKUK) which was (and still is) grossly lacking. Our foreign reserves, thanks to Bubu's quick intervention, has grown from $30 billion in 2015 to $47.5 billion as at May, this year.
P.s. The FG, under Bubu has borrowed waaay beyond the 10 billion you claim there.

4. It's untrue, unfair and ironic to claim that "Buhari came and abandoned the 2nd Niger Bridge whereas he was the one that actually breathed life to the project in the first place. Funds were disbursed to the contractors last year for the initiation of the project which is now, according to the contractors, 44.6% completed. It would, however, be unrealistic to expect a project of that magnitude to be completed already. Lerrus fear God.
P.S. some major infrastructure have been commissioned under this current government an example of which is the Jebba-Mokwa road which, I believe, is still on FP as at this moment.

5. I don't know why you claim Bubu bombed Cross River state but I'd be grateful if you can support that allegation with a link from a credible news outlet. The NDA is a different topic for another day.

6. Nnamdi KANU and IPOB is another topic for another day.

You made a sincere post hinged on what I believe your conscience is right and not because of outright hatred for Buhari and I respect that.

At the end of the day, the more candidate who is more popular between Bubu and Atiku will win next year and that is the beauty of democracy. However, I fervently hope Atiku doesn't win because discerning Nigerians know who he is beneath all that facade.

Links.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/04/revealed-second-niger-bridge-44-6-per-cent-completed-official/

http://sunnewsonline.com/buhari-boasts-nigerias-foreign-reserve-grew-to-47-5bn-in-3-years-under-my-watch/

Kilanee:
tell me howmany governors win under apc back in 2015?

I should tell you as who now.

OChimex:
In that case he validates the blame game of buhari that all the blames for the economic woes should be attributed to the past administration.

Yes that's true, But Majority of Nigerians already know the past administration was responsible except some delusional few, what's annoying is, PMB was voted in to fix that issue & not keep blaming the thieves for the pass three years

Wiseandtrue:
Rotimi Amaechi was the chairman of governors forum then and now, he is in APC.

Shall we say that he is the origin of the problem then

As I recall he opposed it vehemently!

Have you gotten that 16 was greater than 19?

OneManLegion:
You have brought intelligent discourse to the table.
Very well, then.

1. The topic she created criticised Buhari for supposedly failing the youths, not a general failure in governance. I don't know what has changed since then to occasion the shift but I do know she may be aversed - as I am - to an Atiku presidency.

2. I don't agree with her statement that the only competent minister the last administration had was Akinwunmi Adesina, but generally speaking, the ministers were as bad as the presidency on behalf of which they worked. We must also remember that Adesina was not the only Yoruba minister the last administration had so why single him out for praise if the motive is borne of ethnic bias?

3. It is true that under this administration, the country's debt profile has significantly risen but leaving it at that will be telling but part of the story. The debts were procured to boost our infrastructure (through SUKUK) which was (and still is) grossly lacking. Our foreign reserves, thanks to Bubu's quick intervention, has grown from $30 billion in 2015 to $47.5 billion as at May, this year.
P.s. The FG, under Bubu has borrowed waaay beyond the 10 billion you claim there.

4. It's untrue, unfair and ironic to claim that "Buhari came and abandoned the 2nd Niger Bridge whereas he was the one that actually breathed life to the project in the first place. Funds were disbursed to the contractors last year for the initiation of the project which is now, according to the contractors, 44.6% completed. It would, however, be unrealistic to expect a project of that magnitude to be completed already. Lerrus fear God.
P.S. some major infrastructure have been commissioned under this current government an example of which is the Jebba-Mokwa road which, I believe, is still on FP as at this moment.

5. I don't know why you claim Bubu bombed Cross River state but I'd be grateful if you can support that allegation with a link from a credible news outlet. The NDA is a different topic for another day.

6. Nnamdi KANU and IPOB is another topic for another day.

You made a sincere post hinged on what I believe your conscience is right and not because of outright hatred for Buhari and I respect that.

At the end of the day, the more candidate who is more popular between Bubu and Atiku will win next year and that is the beauty of democracy. However, I fervently hope Atiku doesn't win because discerning Nigerians know who he is beneath all that facade.

Links.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/04/revealed-second-niger-bridge-44-6-per-cent-completed-official/

http://sunnewsonline.com/buhari-boasts-nigerias-foreign-reserve-grew-to-47-5bn-in-3-years-under-my-watch/

I like your open mindedness.
the 10 billion I mentioned is eternal borrowing.the domestic debt is another kettle of fish.the sukkuk bond is just but a small fraction of the whole debts,less than a billion.
external reserves is not the same thing as savings and does not belong to the government.
Nigeria sells crude oil in dollars,gives the naira equivalent to the government and keeps the dollars for international trade.so it's money already spent by the government.so as the oil price is rising,dollar reserves increased.ss simple as that.
on the second Niger brdge,I can swear on my life,that apart from the preliminary work done under the previous government,nothing,absolutely nothing have been done since Buhari took over.all the claims about 40% are all false.the painful aspect is that this bridge is a ppp project that is going to be tolled but he came and started playing politics with it.
on the issue of the bombing,he said he was looking for pirates.it was the tension generated by this act together with that of Tompolo that gave birth to the avengers and the bombing of pipelines.

spartan50:
You are very naive
. What you wrote does it make sense

I think you need to buy yourself a sense to understand the sense in what he wrote. Show his naivety with facts and stop lementing.

vedaxcool:
Peter Obi will prove a bigger liability at the end, he is a coward with perchant flip-flop syndrome. PDP created the problems we are facing they definitely cannot be the ones that will solve them.

fool....where did u see PDP?

spartan50:
You are very naive
. What you wrote does it make sense

Don't blame him. Na hunger drive his palm wine niggernomics!

overall90:
I like your open mindedness.
the 10 billion I mentioned is eternal borrowing.the domestic debt is another kettle of fish.the sukkuk bond is just but a small fraction of the whole debts,less than a billion.
external reserves is not the same thing as savings and does not belong to the government.
Nigeria sells crude oil in dollars,gives the naira equivalent to the government and keeps the dollars for international trade.so it's money already spent by the government.so as the oil price is rising,dollar reserves increased.ss simple as that.
on the second Niger brdge,I can swear on my life,that apart from the preliminary work done under the previous government,nothing,absolutely nothing have been done since Buhari took over.all the claims about 40% are all false.the painful aspect is that this bridge is a ppp project that is going to be tolled but he came and started playing politics with it.
on the issue of the bombing,he said he was looking for pirates.it was the tension generated by this act together with that of Tompolo that gave birth to the avengers and the bombing of pipelines.

I don't know and have never heard of the phrase "eternal borrowing" before but I do know what Foreign Reserves is and I'm sad that you're trying to downplay the significance of our robustly improved FR. FR are dollars bought by the CBN from the FG and kept either in the CBN vaults or in any of many places within and without to act as buffers against economic tragedies. When it is low, the local currency weakens. Robust FR also protects a nation's currency from devaluation which in turn prevents inflation - all to an extent, of course. If FR were as unimportant as you make it seem, why do all the countries the world over take it so seriously? The rise of crude oil has nothing to do with the FR as opposed to your claim. The FR rises when the FG buys more dollars than it sells and vice-versa. If the international oil prices determine our FR, shouldn't it have been highest under Goodluck's admin?

Contrary to your belief, the Sukkuk bond is about 100 billion naira and is exclusively dedicated to financing capital projects.

About the second Niger Bridge, please don't swear on your life or on anything. I typed "2nd Niger Bridge" on the google search bar and was immediately regaled with dozens of recent news items, accompanied by a few pictures stating the details of the ongoing project. Jonathan's government DID NOT start the 2nd Niger Bridge because that government never disbursed a penny toward that project. Make a quick Google search, bro. There's only so much Bubu can do in the face of the limitations with which his administration has been beset. Don't forget that while the previous government was borrowing to pay salaries, Bubu's tenure has been borrowing to put infrastructure on ground. And an obviously learned person like you knows infrastructures drive the progress of a nation.

Bubu hasn't done bad at all. Several laudable projects are at different stages of completion while some have been completed already in spite of all that's happened.

Buhari paid the Paris Club overdeductions to state governors and asked them to offset outstanding workers' salaries with it. Some governors complied while some simply stole as much as they could. Buhari can't force any state government to pay salaries or otherwise, order them on how to spend the money once it's already in their coffers. There's only so much he can do after all.

There's no excuse for what the NDA attempted and that you try to defend their dastardly acts is disheartening. Tompolo is a criminal and a crook. Period. It's alright if you disagree but I won't spend my time discussing the likes of Tompolo and KANU.

I can't type as much as if want but sha know that though Buhari may not be the best man for the job, this Atiku of a somebody na error, biko.

OneManLegion:
I don't know and have never heard of the phrase "eternal borrowing" before but I do know what Foreign Reserves is and I'm sad that you're trying to downplay the significance of our robustly improved FR. FR are dollars bought by the CBN from the FG and kept either in the CBN vaults or in any of many places within and without to act as buffers against economic tragedies. When it is low, the local currency weakens. Robust FR also protects a nation's currency from devaluation which in turn prevents inflation - all to an extent, of course. If FR were as unimportant as you make it seem, why do all the countries the world over take it so seriously? The rise of crude oil has nothing to do with the FR as opposed to your claim. The FR rises when the FG buys more dollars than it sells and vice-versa. If the international oil prices determine our FR, shouldn't it have been highest under Goodluck's admin?

Contrary to your belief, the Sukkuk bond is about 100 billion naira and is exclusively dedicated to financing capital projects.

About the second Niger Bridge, please don't swear on your life or on anything. I typed "2nd Niger Bridge" on the google search bar and was immediately regaled with dozens of recent news items, accompanied by a few pictures stating the details of the ongoing project. Jonathan's government DID NOT start the 2nd Niger Bridge because that government never disbursed a penny toward that project. Make a quick Google search, bro. There's only so much Bubu can do in the face of the limitations with which his administration has been beset. Don't forget that while the previous government was borrowing to pay salaries, Bubu's tenure has been borrowing to put infrastructure on ground. And an obviously learned person like you knows infrastructures drive the progress of a nation.

Bubu hasn't done bad at all. Several laudable projects are at different stages of completion while some have been completed already in spite of all that's happened.

Buhari paid the Paris Club overdeductions to state governors and asked them to offset outstanding workers' salaries with it. Some governors complied while some simply stole as much as they could. Buhari can't force any state government to pay salaries or otherwise, order them on how to spend the money once it's already in their coffers. There's only so much he can do after all.

There's no excuse for what the NDA attempted and that you try to defend their dastardly acts is disheartening. Tompolo is a criminal and a crook. Period. It's alright if you disagree but I won't spend my time discussing the likes of Tompolo and KANU.

I can't type as much as if want but sha know that though Buhari may not be the best man for the job, this Atiku of a somebody na error, biko.

there is something called foreign and domestic debt.external borrowing falls under the former.
the 10 billion I am talking about is in dollars so you can see that the 100 billion naira sukkuk is even a drop in the ocean.
I'm not down playing the Fr,but you people should deceiving Nigerians as if it's government savings which is not.
I just mentioned the sell of crude because it is the main source of foreign exchange,the Fr is also gotten through the various loans the government has taken and also through the sell of bonds.the main use of Fr is importation.and yes the government have been using the Fr to strengthen the naira which is an artificial measure and which is responsible for some of the economic problems we have been having.
on the second Niger bridge,you have imbibed so much propaganda that I don't know how esle to convince you but what I have told you is the whole truth.the cost of the bridge is about 117 billion of which government share is 30 billion.Jonathan through sure-p paid about 21 billion.all the pictures circulating were work done before January 2015.
I'm in no way supporting Tompolo but that poster was lying that the bombing of pipelines were sponsored and I'm only trying to clear the air on the etiology of the problem.

shortgun:
Was still Governors loyal to APC that refused to save to rubbish Jonathan and embezzle funds.

What many people don't know is that ironically, it was the Governors hunger for money that made Jonathan president when it was clear Yaradua can no longer perform.

Money was available for the Governors to share but there was no one to append his signature as C in C, they quickly brought in the doctrine of necessity via The national Assembly and made Jonathan president.

Huh?? I am not understanding..

Misterdhee1:
Were you with Lucifer when this nonsense was proved wrong by Cable three days ago?

oh you mean the APC media outfit....go get a life

gtown:
I think you need to buy yourself a sense to understand the sense in what he wrote. Show his naivety with facts and stop lementing.

You deserve a slap... to reset your thinking

spartan50:
You are very naive
. What you wrote does it make sense

it won't make any sense to you because you are foolish and blockheaded to know the truth...

lionness:
GEJ left a staggering debt all the money looted by his Ebos ministers and cabinets. The only real minister in GEJs cabinet was a Yoruba man who handled agriculture, every other minister were criminals and failures. Even Obi was part of those crooks. And I'm supposed to vote for a thief who did absolutely nothing in his state and left heaps of gbese. and Bubu has now saved over $20 billion and borrowed less. Bubu met dozens of saboteurs, from sponsored MEND who bombed oil lines for over two years to IPOBS who tried to kill his government and a rogue and useless NASS controlled by the opposition among delayed bills and sickness. You know when they say someone is Godsent and willing to do something with little. Yet the same man is fixing Lagos Ibadan, Sagamu, Lagos Aboekuta road, Rail lines linking Lagos Ogun and Oyo. Rail lines linking PH and Abuja and Lagos etc. we have better light and Bokoharam reduced to protesting and newts. Baba met a dead country, and today you see jobs posting daily on nairaland, only the useless youths stay on nairaland blaming their forefathers daily...a lot is happening and Thats why the Indians and Chinese are flooding the country. Bubu is building the Niger Bridge for these useless ingrates, fixing several SE roads that their gods and sons who looted the country dry didn't do for them. Atleast you know some folks are pathetically in love with corruption and trash...
PDP has shown it's a criminal entity with adopting those big thieves and flanking itself with all the confirmed looters of NASS. My SE and their love for looters. Hian!

wailing should be for opposition but you have taken the title wholeheartedly. come 2019 your level of wailing will be unprecedented

dheilaw1:
it won't make any sense to you because you are foolish and blockheaded to know the truth...

Your Father!

spartan50:
Your Father!

its obvious your father didn't raise you

spartan50:
You deserve a slap... to reset your thinking

I never knew it was a bambino at the other end.

pryme:
What should they save?
Do you know what ECA stands for?
Since your post is devoid of how things works let me define it for you, ECA stands for Excess Crude Account.

When oil is selling for over a 100$ per barrel under GEJ Nigeria had more than enough so we save the excess.

Under Buhari crude oil dropped to 28$ per barrel, will you save when this was not even enough?
And which money was left by the last administration for the Buhari to start performing magic with?

After all you said, you had the nerve to mention Atiku and Obi as antidotes to our problems, do you even realize that Atiku has a fraudulent record that is still fresh in our minds?
Must you play politics with the lives of Nigerians? Taking advantage of their plight?

If you understand how running a country works you will cut Buhari some slack.
Buhari has not lived up to expectations, but he is far better than Atiku.
Bring someone better, not Atiku.

senseless defender of a sensless president

for ur perusal

hush15:
senseless defender of a sensless president

for ur perusal

If you could read, then your fertilizer brain should have told you that those state Governors grew suspicious how the missing ECA funds were not being accounted for.

So you expect Okonja Iweala to say she was the villain? In her book?
Get this into your fertilizer brain am not defending anybody, it's just am not that cheap to be bought by propaganda.

pryme:
If you could read, then your fertilizer brain should have told you that those state Governors grew suspicious how the missing ECA funds were not being accounted for.

So you expect Okonja Iweala to say she was the villain? In her book?
Get this into your fertilizer brain am not defending anybody, it's just am not that cheap to be bought by propaganda.

Which suspicion did they grew? You all keep giving excuses for insanity. Your own fertilizer brain didnt tell you that Federal Government can just deduct money from a joint account anyhow? Even if there is any form of withdrawal, it will come in form of loan which must be paid back and thats even a decision all stakeholders involved.

Whatever men, she mentiones those that were against savings and Peter Obi on the contrary tried encouraging it but you idols who are the bigger thieves like that stupid fraudulent APC chairman wont allow good deeds to see the light of day. Goodluck with supporting incompetent mofos.

i will put up the picture so can comprehnd it well.