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Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by bantudra: 10:35pm On Nov 02, 2018
gidgiddy:
What Trump said and what the Nigerian Army are doing are two different things. Trump would never tell the US Army to shoot unarmed US citizens for throwing stones. He said what he said in relation to the migrants who want to breach the territorial intergrity of the US


But the Nigerian Army is shooting unarmed IPOB and Shiites even though they are Nigerian citizens(until the gain independence)

When the Army kills its own unarmed citizens over stone throwing, this Army is not professional.

Anyways, it is not the job of the Army to guard protesters

give yourself a break....many of us know thats not true....

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Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by nairaman66(m): 10:40pm On Nov 02, 2018
sarrki:
It’s called rule of engagement

Army are not trained to maintain peace

They are trained to kill

Stvpid talk!!
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by Sagay212: 10:41pm On Nov 02, 2018
lilbest4:
protesters throw you stone and you shoot them with live bullet? Why not throw them stones too?
So you mean an army cannot compose itself during attack without opening fire?
Mehn you're in 1942

so when you are confronted with such situation with an overwhelming crowd throwing stones to a group of soldiers not up to 30, you drop your guns and throw stones back at them abi? I see you are in 2050. Go and join the shites or any protesters to throw stones at security personnel, or better still just join the NA so that when you find yourself in such situation, you throw stones back at the protesters. some of you don't even know how fooli.sh you sound with your coments

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Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by bantudra: 10:42pm On Nov 02, 2018
RTSC:
I am sure the last thing trump wanted was for third world murderous militiaries to use his statement to perpetuate crimes against humanity.


As leader of the world, he should be more careful with his speeches.

who made trump the leader of the world....??

anyways...your socalled leader of the world just justified their engagement with his utterance....

even american soldiers will shoot ipobians when they misbehave....

now what.....??

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Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by israelmao(m): 10:44pm On Nov 02, 2018
sarrki:
It’s called rule of engagement

Army are not trained to maintain peace

They are trained to kill

Do you know the same army has intelligence team and other units before you make everyone believes that soldiers are always belligerent?
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by gidgiddy: 10:44pm On Nov 02, 2018
msylva2147:
please what do you mean by unarmed people? that a group of people stoning military men makes them unarmed? This is exactly how Boko Haram started and now it has become something that the country is billions of dollars to combat it. Do you know how many cars of innocent people they destroyed in the name of protest? people like you are the main problem of this country. I wished they even cleared all of them, NONSENSE How I wish you were among the people they blocked during their so called protest as you call it so you can come online and be supporting them

Stoning the military, or anyone for that matter, is not good enough reason to kill a person. Life is worth more than cars. If a person destroys a car, they should be charged to court to pay for their actions, not kill them. It is only in countries where human life means nothing, such as Nigeria, do you see people talking about killing their fellow human being over the throwing of stones, blocking of roads or the destroying of cars.
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by RTSC: 10:46pm On Nov 02, 2018
bantudra:


who made trump the leader of the world....??

anyways...your socalled leader of the world just justified their engagement with his utterance....

even american soldiers will shoot ipobians when they misbehave....

now what.....??
Give me one example you know of american soldiers shotting american civilians on american soil.

Or you think those migrants are americans.?

Abeg,go and sleep. We dey talk, frog sef dey show face.
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by Sagay212: 10:48pm On Nov 02, 2018
JuanDeDios:

I'd place a call to the commissioner of police to send policemen to disperse them with non-lethal force.

lol...so while placing a call with the stones flying in from different angles and the vilolent protesters getting closer, what do you do? leave the vehicle containing the ammunition and run away to call police to use non-lethal force. The protesters that are not scared of gun shots fired to the air will be scared of non- lethal force. Do you know what will happen if the shiite protesters manage to catch just one soldier or are able to get hold of the truck of ammunition? Shebi you are in your father's house eating indomie and browsing. You think it is beans to face a bunch of mad people or you did not see a video of the police man that shites murdered.

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Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by bantudra: 10:48pm On Nov 02, 2018
JuanDeDios:

A protest is a police situation. The fact the army was there shooting protesters is a testament to our nation's dysfunction. It's the height of unprofessionalism for an army to turn its guns on its own people.

they were not even many to start with....their were only 2 guarding the weapons transport and the shiites attacked them with stones.....

they called for reenforcement and the tragedy happened...
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by xpmode(m): 10:49pm On Nov 02, 2018
Nwaohafia1:

Stop displaying ignorance in the name of supporting Buhari. That is not Rule of Engagement

A policeman that refuses to shoot his rifle was killed by shiite in Kaduna
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by tony5(m): 10:51pm On Nov 02, 2018
gidgiddy:


Stoning the military, or anyone for that matter, is not good enough reason to kill a person. Life is worth more than cars. If a person destroys a car, they should be charged to court to pay for their actions, not kill them. It is only in countries where human life means nothing, such as Nigeria, do you see people talking about killing their fellow human being over the throwing of stones, blocking of roads or the destroying of cars.
You Have Spoken Well,but What Gut Does The Protester Have To Stone The Soldier.Someone Among The Protester Said And I Quote"na Toy,na Toy Gun"so It Would Have Been A Different Case If The Army Were Their For A Peace Keeping Purpose.

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Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by gidgiddy: 10:51pm On Nov 02, 2018
omohayek:

What a load of nonsense! I really don't get the mindset of all you Trump-worshipers here on Nairaland; are you so burdened with self-hate that you think even the stupidest, most corrupt and most dishonest white man must automatically be better than anyone who shares the same skin color as you? Here you are denying exactly what Trump has been caught on video doing many times over, when the entire point of the NYT article is that Trump's words have given a green light to other regimes to act brutally to suppress dissent!

You Trump-fellating cretins like to point out the "zombie" nature of the reflexive Buhari-apologists, but you're no better when it comes to the lying, incompetent, sex-mad, crooked, orange-haired buffoon currently soiling the White House with his presence. The only difference between you and the BMC crew is that you direct your blind allegiance towards an old white f.ool who is way in over his head, instead of another old f.ool who happens to be black.

The regime's that are brutally suppressing the voices of dissent have been doing so long before Trump made his speech, they will be doing so long after. There is no regime that will suddenly abandone the rule of law to violate their citizenry just because Trump spoke.

What concerns me is what is happening in Nigeria where people such as Shiites and IPOB have been targeted and their human rights violated and their person a killed
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by gidgiddy: 10:58pm On Nov 02, 2018
jaxxy:


Personally speaking a stone is a weapon and potent as a knife and if attacked with such depending on the level of danger I believe the army would have no option bt use lethal force not to wipe them out bt to deter the situation from getting more deadly.

People are people whether ur citizens or not the issue is the level of threat and immediate danger being faced.

This is stupid thinking. For starters, the Army should not be doing the job of guarding civil protests, they are not trained for that. It's like trying to to get the Navy to do the the job of a traffic warden. The police are the ones who are trained crowd control and anti-riot tactics and they should be allowed to do their job.

The Army is trained to fight wars and to kill, that's why they should only be deployed in times of serious issues, not protests and stone throwing. That's an invitation to disaster
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by bantudra: 11:01pm On Nov 02, 2018
RTSC:

Give me one example you know of american soldiers shotting american civilians on american soil.

Or you think those migrants are americans.?

Abeg,go and sleep. We dey talk, frog sef dey show face.

look,through una behavior una already show us that una are not nigerians....would you stone your own army members....??

nigerian military members are nigerians too....harmin or killing them is enough to say you people are foreighn invaders....

if you people dont want to be seen as enemies then stop behavin like enemies...

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Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by moshmoney06: 11:03pm On Nov 02, 2018
with what you just said France dont want to sell us weapon including UK, BRAZIL, GERMANY even USA who we just paid over abit half a billion dollar to buy weapon(aircraft) quote me we may not get that weapon till 2023 with the way our military attend to civilian matter. sad sad sad
Sagay212:
everybody keeps running their mouth. if they give you uniform and gun to maintain peacd and you try to ensure peaceful protest but protesters start throwing stones at you, biko what will you do? You have amunition to guide and deliver to a particular location. will you leave the ammunition and run away, will you wait for them to injure and probably stone you to death? Instead of blaiming the NA and forming human rights, please tell us what you will do as a soldier in that situation.
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by macaranta(m): 11:04pm On Nov 02, 2018
sarrki:
It’s called rule of engagement

Army are not trained to maintain peace

They are trained to kill

Politics aside, you are gradually turning into a heinous monster
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by bantudra: 11:06pm On Nov 02, 2018
moshmoney06:
with what you just said France dont want to sell us weapon including UK, BRAZIL, GERMANY even USA who we just paid over abit half a billion dollar to buy weapon(aircraft) quote me we may not get that weapon till 2023 with the way our military attend to civilian matter. sad sad sad

who cares...we will go other nations go buy....russia,china,pakistan and many others are their too....
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by InvertedHammer: 11:06pm On Nov 02, 2018
sarrki:
It’s called rule of engagement

Army are not trained to maintain peace

They are trained to kill
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Wrong!

Army has no business in the street in the first place.

That is the job of the NPF.

/

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Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by bantudra: 11:08pm On Nov 02, 2018
InvertedHammer:

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Wrong!

Army has no business in the street in the first place.

That is the job of the NPF.

/


we are at war...police cant handle boko haram or herdsmen alone....
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by gidgiddy: 11:17pm On Nov 02, 2018
Jiang:


You guys are suddenly Nigerians, after all the "am Biafran & not from the zoo bullshyt" your hypocrisy stinks to high heavens

The Nigerian citizenship is the one we were all born with, but it does not mean it is the one we must die with.

I'm Igbo man, I was born with.Nigerisn citizenship but I don't believe in Nigeria and I want my fellow Igbos to have their own separate country.

A Catalan may be Spanish but he will tell you he is Catalan first

A Scot may be British but he will tell you he is Scottish first

So it goes that an Igbo may be Nigerian but he will tell you he is Biafran first
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by busterr(m): 11:19pm On Nov 02, 2018
Sagay212:
everybody keeps running their mouth. if they give you uniform and gun to maintain peacd and you try to ensure peaceful protest but protesters start throwing stones at you, biko what will you do? You have amunition to guide and deliver to a particular location. will you leave the ammunition and run away, will you wait for them to injure and probably stone you to death? Instead of blaiming the NA and forming human rights, please tell us what you will do as a soldier in that situation.

Which nonsense peace and order are you maintaining?
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by Nobody: 11:21pm On Nov 02, 2018
gidgiddy:
What Trump said and what the Nigerian Army are doing are two different things. Trump would never tell the US Army to shoot unarmed US citizens for throwing stones. He said what he said in relation to the migrants who want to breach the territorial intergrity of the US


But the Nigerian Army is shooting unarmed IPOB and Shiites even though they are Nigerian citizens(until the gain independence)

When the Army kills its own unarmed citizens over stone throwing, this Army is not professional.

Anyways, it is not the job of the Army to guard protesters
ñ. See defence by an Ipob Jew.The miscreants among the Shi'ites who are animals can not by their actions undermine the peace of this country. Spit.

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Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by moshmoney06: 11:24pm On Nov 02, 2018
lol grin grin grin even the president know you dont joke with USA and is ally weapon when it come to war and bully even economical, you said china, Pakistan lol USA has there naval right on international water close to china and Pakistan, both cant do anything to them maybe RUSSIA but economical and intelligent .
final let the govt wake up and equip the police in other wake to there responsibility
bantudra:


who cares...we will go other nations go buy....russia,china,pakistan and many others are their too....
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by NotJustOkay: 11:35pm On Nov 02, 2018
gidgiddy:


Stoning the military, or anyone for that matter, is not good enough reason to kill a person. Life is worth more than cars. If a person destroys a car, they should be charged to court to pay for their actions, not kill them. It is only in countries where human life means nothing, such as Nigeria, do you see people talking about killing their fellow human being over the throwing of stones, blocking of roads or the destroying of cars.

Stop displaying your arrogance. We all know you are saying this nonsense because you hate buhari, not that you love the shites. Igbo ideology is 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'.

There are more human right offences committed by the US army and police then what happens in Nigeria. Your inferiority complex makes you think the whites are saints.
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by NotJustOkay: 11:40pm On Nov 02, 2018
gidgiddy:


This is stupid thinking. For starters, the Army should not be doing the job of guarding civil protests, they are not trained for that. It's like trying to to get the Navy to do the the job of a traffic warden. The police are the ones who are trained crowd control and anti-riot tactics and they should be allowed to do their job.

The Army is trained to fight wars and to kill, that's why they should only be deployed in times of serious issues, not protests and stone throwing. That's an invitation to disaster

Who told you they were guarding civilians? So you know nothing about what you speak of. They were transporting ammunition.
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by bantudra: 11:43pm On Nov 02, 2018
moshmoney06:
lol grin grin grin even the president know you dont joke with USA and is ally weapon when it come to war and bully even economical, you said china, Pakistan lol USA has there naval right on international water close to china and Pakistan, both cant do anything to them maybe RUSSIA but economical and intelligent .
final let the govt wake up and equip the police in other wake to there responsibility

america is not what you think it is today....many have lost respect for them...the world has changed....

iran is calling their bluff more and more...russia is showin them the middle finger....china is tellin them to stfu....

you are on your own....
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by SternProphet: 11:51pm On Nov 02, 2018
sarrki:
It’s called rule of engagement

Army are not trained to maintain peace

They are trained to kill

The rule of engagement is simple. If you are taking casualties from the people even if they are hurling sticks at you, the moment you are taking casualties, they become the enemy. Puncture their bodies with bullets. If you feel for the Shiite youths doing these things, why dont you send your own children down to join them. Thank me later. RUBBISH
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by Nobody: 11:55pm On Nov 02, 2018
sarrki:
It’s called rule of engagement

Army are not trained to maintain peace

They are trained to kill

Guy all bcoz u wanna b a patriot, uve turned urself 2an inbecile on nairaland due 2ur high level of ignorance.

Loving ur president is one thing,
Loving ur country is another.
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by flames01: 11:58pm On Nov 02, 2018
xxxtension:
Under the rule of engagement, Civilians are not to be attacked let alone killed by the military expect the civilians initiate attack with weapons


Sarrki is too mentally dull to realise that, hence his haste to defend murder and abuse. I hope he will say the same thing if he or his family members get brutalised by the NA.
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by Codes151(m): 12:12am On Nov 03, 2018
sarrki:
It’s called rule of engagement

Army are not trained to maintain peace

They are trained to kill
almagiri school potential candidate
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by Amalekki: 12:17am On Nov 03, 2018
Just passing but on stoning in America.... if dem born you and your papa well, try stone ordinary police in America and I can assure you that you are dead meat even if your papa is Bill Clinton. No debate!
Re: Nigerian Amy Uses Trump's Speech To Justify Killings - New York Times by ikorodureporta: 12:26am On Nov 03, 2018
Trump say no be wetin him mean
https://cnn.it/2QgBU39

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