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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by ikorodureporta: 6:27am On Nov 15, 2018
ChiefAzubuike:

He was good no doubt . But the problem with his game is that it lacked output. His team can be losing yet you'll still be seeing him joggling ball dancing unnecessary samba. He hardly score goals , he hardly assist. His game lacked work rate and output.

Football is not all about dancing samba and awilo.
That samba skills is what we're lacking in this present super eagles....have u forgotten those long crosses to rashidi yekini

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by Kenistry(m): 6:32am On Nov 15, 2018
no doubt, Jay Jay skills on the ball is far better than that of Ronaldo and messi, he's a beauty to watch, dribbles effortlessly. But overall, im no come close to those two GOATs.

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by OKorowanta: 6:33am On Nov 15, 2018
habsydiamond:
Everyone has an input on how to shape ones future...Messi and Ronaldo will always remain the works best million times ahead of Okocha simply because they shape their way to greatness at the right time...but broda okocha see opportunity to go to ManUtd but he refused to stay at Bolton...what's the outcome of that now, no trophy or anything....just saying thou....

He never rejected Man United.the speculation came but was never authenticated.Gossips is normal trend in football.Okocha confessed he would love to play for Man U.Even during Ranieri Chelsea reign, a list of twelve players was drawn up to buy from. Joe Cole from WestHam,Okocha,Cameroon's Geremi Njitap and a host of others.while most of the deals materialised Okocha's purported move never saw the light of the day.
Ill luck follow d guy too much.

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by Blabbermouth: 6:41am On Nov 15, 2018
Goalnaldo:
Ronaldo is master of step overs, Messi is king of dribbling with the ball while running , no one is better than Ronaldinho in performing tricks and flicks on the air. Okocha was great in tricks and flicks on the turf.
Ronaldo Is never the king of step overs. It seems u've never watched robinho play

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by ChiefAzubuike(f): 6:50am On Nov 15, 2018
cr7lomo:
All of you saying oko c h a is better than ronaldo and messi just shows how sentimental nigerians are... there were other players that had good skills but what significant who did okocha play in europe... was he instrumental for any team in winning any tournaments... did he play against any top team in europe that people can remember his significance in that game
Go through my posts, I have cleared the air. Okocha's football was baseless, no end product. He go just carry ball dey dance , e go say e dey play ball. Naso dem dey play ball?

Him football no just get end product. What's the essence of all those skills on the pitch if your team still end up losing at the end of the day battling relegation.

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by OsundareSheriff: 7:01am On Nov 15, 2018
Ehhhh!!! Substance talk.

Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by deebrownneymar: 7:22am On Nov 15, 2018
Only Ronaldinho pass Okocha and it's by a mile
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by chris31(m): 7:23am On Nov 15, 2018
He is talking in terms of skills not general play
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by ShedrachU(m): 7:25am On Nov 15, 2018
Dont you know Ronaldinho learnt 80% of his skills fro Jay-Jay.
Though he has no much trophy and awards like Cboy and Leo but he is the king of tricky football and magical skills. As he said sometime in an interview;
"I played football to entertain"
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by neweraomo: 7:32am On Nov 15, 2018
adaksbullet:
While we these Sammy aladiye compire Ronaldo to Messi talk less of okocha undecided


Wish ball his okocha known how to played? undecided
only if you tell me why your English is this terrible? lipsrsealed

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by 989900: 7:36am On Nov 15, 2018
Okocha no doubt is the most skillful . . . that was what Big Sam meant.

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by Nobody: 7:42am On Nov 15, 2018
The problem with most Nigerians is that we don't read much less comprehend,first of all Op collect slap for including Messi's name there when it was not mentioned,then back to what Big Sam said,from what I understood,he didn't say that Okocha is a better player than Ronaldo,he mentioned the aspect of the game he was talking about,skills,and I affirm what he said,when it comes to skilfulness,Jay Jay Okovha is better than Cristiano Ronaldo,yes I said so
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by ikorodureporta: 7:50am On Nov 15, 2018
darkchild64:
The problem with most Nigerians is that we don't read much less comprehend,first of all Op collect slap for including Messi's name there when it was not mentioned,then back to what Big Sam said,from what I understood,he didn't say that Okocha is a better player than Ronaldo,he mentioned the aspect of the game he was talking about,skills,and I affirm what he said,when it comes to skilfulness,Jay Jay Okovha is better than Cristiano Ronaldo,yes I said so
If u understood logic, u'l know that he rated cr7 ahead of Messi
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by amstamon: 8:18am On Nov 15, 2018
horlakunle25:
skills to skills wit d ball on d pitch of play, pls give it to jay jay na.....!!! go and watch best of jay jay, u while understand wat big sam mean dat he can watch jay jay play all thru d day
What do you expect a low class coach like big Sam to say? Afterall you can only support who you've once coach. Only if he had the opportunity to have coach Messi or Cristiano he wouldn't have said such trash.
Spit
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by amstamon: 8:19am On Nov 15, 2018
horlakunle25:
skills to skills wit d ball on d pitch of play, pls give it to jay jay na.....!!! go and watch best of jay jay, u while understand wat big sam mean dat he can watch jay jay play all thru d day
What do you expect a low class coach like big Sam to say? Afterall you can only support who you've once coach. Only if he had the opportunity to have coach Messi or Cristiano he wouldn't have said such trash.
Spit..
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by adetayo234: 8:19am On Nov 15, 2018
chysam:


Apparently you were a kid when Jay Jay played active football. Go and find out about his exploits in the German Bundesliga.
a

Web done o, old man that is closer to the grave. He was sooo good, but still left PSG as a free agent. Be fooling yourself there o, Mr old man
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by Hassan88(m): 8:28am On Nov 15, 2018
ukehnonny:
grin
Is this some kind of joke? cheesy cheesy
I see this man is smoking something.
Lol, Okocha kill you there.
Have you ever played football?
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by Nobody: 8:59am On Nov 15, 2018
ikorodureporta:

If u understood logic, u'l know that he rated cr7 ahead of Messi
How,because he didn't mention Messi,what of Pele and Maradona,he didn't mention them na so he also rated Ronaldo above them,he only mentioned Ronaldo,don't put words in his mouth,he knows exactly what he is saying
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by Jaelluiz: 9:14am On Nov 15, 2018
Okocha is better than Ronaldo and Messi on the dead ball. In my opinion, he is only comparable to ronaldinho. You could hardly disposses okocha on the dead ball. He was a better dribbler than messi and ronaldo. If you know you know.

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by chiboy1116: 9:51am On Nov 15, 2018
wagazala:


Every player had their peak period. Ronaldinho couldn't come close in the PSG days. One day some dude will rubbish your highly rated Messi/Ronaldo based on present form. We will see what you'll say about that.
OGA na lie , there's no player like Messi , Pele hasn't been rubbished , ronaldinho hasn't been rubbished , maradona same , na Messi and Ronaldo dem wan rubbish. Okocha wasn't even the best Nigerian player in his time ....mtchew....na this mumu coach say dier better pass busquet
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by dfrost: 10:02am On Nov 15, 2018
It seems former footballers and managers are now smoking the famous "kwale weed". shocked grin cheesy

Uncle Sam and Maradona be speaking rubbish recently.

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by King44(m): 10:03am On Nov 15, 2018
after going try some documentary of both messi n cr7 I also realised he is way better than both of them
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by grandstar(m): 10:06am On Nov 15, 2018
Bobinovic:

Anywhere people mention Okocha's name they must add the fact that he refused an offer to Manchester united, quoting all he would have achieved. Are You God?
From my own point of view Okocha made one of the best decisions concerning his career. watching Okocha play ball you could see he did it for the love not for accolades. Do you think Ferguson would have watched Okocha dribble 5 players including the keeper and turn away from an empty post without scoring and still play him the next match?
Okocha is a household name in Bolton, a club legend till tomorrow. Not up to 10 African players has achieved that status for an European side in top flight football.

He made the best decision.

He would just have another player in Man U. He learnt his lesson in PSG.

He would forever remain Bolton no.1 player.
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by Niorte: 10:22am On Nov 15, 2018
Sam Allardyce was right. Many of the people commenting here either lack comprehension or they were much younger during Okocha's wave. The man did not say Okocha was better than Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi in terms of goalscoring but in terms of SKILLS AND TACTICS.

This was even confirmed by Ronaldinho when he stated that the only playing he enjoyed watching to play was Jay Jay Okocha.

Fact is Okocha is a wonder when it comes to playing with football. I've watched many adverts and solo games up till now, Okocha still has that skills and tricks with the ball.

Messi and C. Rinaldo could have all the accolades but when it comes to skills, tricks and tactics, none of them come close to Austin Jay Jay Okocha.

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by edi287: 10:33am On Nov 15, 2018
Niorte:
Sam Allardyce was right. Many of the people commenting here either lack comprehension or they were much younger during Okocha's wave. The man did not say Okocha was better than Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi in terms of goalscoring but in terms of SKILLS AND TACTICS.

This was even confirmed by Ronaldinho when he stated that the only playing he enjoyed watching to play was Jay Jay Okocha.

Fact is Okocha is a wonder when it comes to playing with football. I've watched many adverts and solo games up till now, Okocha still has that skills and tricks with the ball.

Messi and C. Rinaldo could have all the accolades but when it comes to skills, tricks and tactics, none of them come close to Austin Jay Jay Okocha.
What do you mean by "tactics"? Messi is more versatile, has a higher football IQ, etc. So how is better than Messi at "tactics"?
The only thing Okocha edges messi over is skills.
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by edi287: 10:36am On Nov 15, 2018
ShedrachU:
Dont you know Ronaldinho learnt 80% of his skills fro Jay-Jay.
Though he has no much trophy and awards like Cboy and Leo but he is the king of tricky football and magical skills. As he said sometime in an interview;
"I played football to entertain"
No he didn't. Ronaldinho was already exhibiting his skills back in the Brazilian league. He admired him - that's all.
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by edi287: 10:44am On Nov 15, 2018
Cantonese:



Very wrong assertion my brother. Issa Hayatou admitted that Okocha deserved to receive the African player of the year but was cheated by CAF.
The issue has to do with:
1. His skin
2. The authorities

Were there no other great or greater players all the years that Messi and Ronaldo shared the Fifa world footballer of the year award? By the way looking at skills is Ronaldo more skilful than Okocha? NO. Uncommon cheating by the Europeans cheated many African greats my brother. Okocha was among the African greats who played in Europe and got cheated by the authorities.
Arsene Wenger once said that he did not sign Okocha because he lacked discipline on the field. But he gave flimsy excuses for not signing Messi, Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Mbappe, etc. The same players are given freedom to roam in their clubs, are allowed to make decisions affecting their teams and are glorified and feared by club owners.
Let us honour our own. Okocha for me is one of the greatest to ever play football.
I don't know 98 as I was bit too young to remember, but Okocha did not deserve to beat Eto both times he was nominated in the top 3.
And when did Wenger say he didn't sign him because of discipline?? Besides if it was during the invincibles era he wouldn't have suited Arsenal's one touch quick style of play.
Messi and C Ronaldo win the Ballon D'or because they are consistent and step up when it matters the most.
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by Pancs(m): 10:49am On Nov 15, 2018
Yes, he has made his points.

Even though cr7 can do more and achieve more with the ball, those mentioned skills are perculiar to Okocha alone.
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by demmie04: 11:18am On Nov 15, 2018
habsydiamond:
Everyone has an input on how to shape ones future...Messi and Ronaldo will always remain the works best million times ahead of Okocha simply because they shape their way to greatness at the right time...but broda okocha see opportunity to go to ManUtd but he refused to stay at Bolton...what's the outcome of that now, no trophy or anything....just saying thou....
U re very correct, how many champions league match did Okocha played in his entire football career, he can never make my team any day cos all this flips of ball, dribbling and skills did not win a match
Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by Niorte: 11:27am On Nov 15, 2018
edi287:

What do you mean by "tactics"? Messi is more versatile, has a higher football IQ, etc. So how is better than Messi at "tactics"?
The only thing Okocha edges messi over is skills.
Tactics is different from versatile. This isn't an English class but for clarification. Tactics is another word for strategy or method. It is not common to see someone who is skillful without tactics. Hence Okocha is both skillful and has tactics. Meaning he has a strategy of getting over a player with his skill.

By the way, it is out of place to compare Okocha with the new generation of Messi and C. Ronaldo
Okocha, Luis Figo and Zidane were in the same league


I am of the opinion that Messi and Ç. Ronaldo are just lucky to be around when there are low quality defenders and goalkeepers.


Maldini
Nesta
Thuram
Stam
Cafu
Hierro
Roberto Carlos
Oliver Kahn
Buffon
Castillas
etc

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Re: Okocha Better Than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo - Sam Allardyce by Olumeme: 3:46pm On Nov 15, 2018
Hahahahahahahahahahah, Okocha is not even better than clarance seedorf not to talk of Messi.

I don't know this hype about Okocha sef, he's even below average as a footballer compared to what his mates was doing back then.

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