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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by quickberry3(m): 6:45pm On Nov 17, 2018
Binikingdowm:
lalasticlala seun this is butterflyleo, he's using an alternate moniker

Oga JP
Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Officialpdpnig: 6:46pm On Nov 17, 2018
Binikingdowm:
lalasticlala seun this is butterflyleo, he's using an alternate moniker

Is this a wish or a hallucination?

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Binikingdowm: 6:47pm On Nov 17, 2018
Officialpdpnig:


Is this a wish or a hallucination?
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Ban this guy he's butterflyleo, butterflyle0
Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by MetaPhysical: 6:48pm On Nov 17, 2018
gmercy713:
Kwara have suddenly became a Yoruba state in North Central despite not having Yoruba King as Emir. So fast?

Truth be told you don't expect people to vote for same party this isn't a primary school election for goodness sake.


Do you know of anywhere Fulani rule ....anywhere at all in West Africa, that it shares rulership with the indigene? The only place this happens is Ilorin. Please update yourself on the following submissions and counter-submissions which has led to an integration in Ilorin of an Emirate Council Chaired by Fulani but Chiefed by Yorubas.

Fulani admit Ilorin is not their city but they submitted that since they won a war there and following rule of conquest they have right of rulership. The Yoruba indigenes contended that Fulani is a settler, accomodated in Ilorin and the war was not religious but a palace coup, of the then ruler of Ilorin, Aare Ona Kakanfo, against his Emperor, Alaafin. The coup itself failed but the seat of power in Oyo was degraded by Afonja. The war ended and Afonja returned to Ilorin as ruler. Alimi also raised an army against Afonja in Ilorin and succeeded in killing him. So you had two coups, one failed, the other succeeded. After the success of Alimi, Ilorin did not get an Emir. Alimi simply became the head of Jamaa (the faithfuls). Back in that century, muslim communities have heirarchy which is recognized by silsila (a link or chain of authority). Till today silsilas still exist, more pronounced amongst Sufi communities than in regular orthodox Islam. A silsila carried flags that bore marks of their link to a particular Shiekhdom or spiritual head. Alimi belonged to the silsila of Sheik Utman dan Fodio. So Ilorin is not a seat of dynastic Emirate, rather it is the seat of a cleric Emirate. The origin of the emirate is in the spread of spiritual knowledge. Other emirates in Nigeria were established purposely to spread Islam. No one was killed in Ilorin for religion, the war in both coups were fought to shake off dominance and patronage. In fact Ilorin was an established seat of Islamic knowledge before even Uthman dan Fodio started his jihad in North. By order of precedence and indigeneship the Fulani throne in Ilorin could be overthrown, and in fact, attempts have been made but done during military rule headed by Northerners who stepped in and protected the seat. Gradually, and to safeguard it from Yoruba reclaim they Northernized Ilorin and Kwara generally. Kwara State used to be called West Central State. Fearing the continued aggression of Yoruba as a threat to depose the Emir, Fulani agreed to co-share power. That's why you have titles as Mogaji Aare (Descendants of Aare Ona Kakanfo) and the various Baloguns (warlords) as kingmakers. Fulani continue to sit on the throne but derive his power from the Yoruba Aare and Baloguns. No where else Fulani sits on power has such arrangement of power share....they occupy thrones as absolute monarchs everywhere in North.

Now, Jebba is North of Ilorin, in fact if anywhere in Kwara could be called North...it is Jebba that earned that right. Ilorin Emirate does not cover Jebba. Jebba is under a dynastic King, Adebara Royal Family. So when you go to North Kwara it is populated by three ethnic groups, Bariba, Nupe and Yoruba indigenes. Fulani is a settler there and does not have a king. If you go to West Kwara, it is Yoruba, go to East it is Yoruba, go to South, it is Yoruba, go to Central (Ilorin) it is Yoruba. So how is Ilorin, or even Kwara a Fulani city or state? Im waiting to hear from you.

I shared all this to update you so you can learn and interact on the internet with more respect when you speak from a position of knowledge and truthful history.

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Doyin2(m): 6:49pm On Nov 17, 2018
Peacemaker5128:
I don't want to believe that PDP can get up to 60 in Kwara south

Kwara Governor is from Kwara South.

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Officialpdpnig: 6:49pm On Nov 17, 2018
Binikingdowm:
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Ban this guy he's butterflyleo, butterflyle0

I am sure there are markets around where you live. Do all you can to avoid them before this insanity becomes permanent

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by ORIENTATION101: 6:50pm On Nov 17, 2018
nzeobi:

buhari did well in 2011 and 2015 in the north because he contested against a southern Christian, when he contested against yaradua he was trounced in the same north.
don't spend time arguing with certain people
ironically buhari competed with yar adua and atiku in that same election and got 12 millions votes while atiku got 2 millions .so atiku is not a match for buhari in northgrin

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by gmercy713: 6:50pm On Nov 17, 2018
MetaPhysical:


Do you know of anywhere Fulani rule ....anywhere at all in West Africa, that it shares rulership with the indigene? The only place this happens is Ilorin. Please update yourself on the following submissions and counter-submissions which has led to an integration in Ilorin of an Emirate Council Chaired by Fulani but Chiefed by Yorubas.

Fulani admit Ilorin is not their city but they submitted that since they won a war there and following rule of conquest they have right of rulership. The Yoruba indigenes contended that Fulani is a settler, accomodated in Ilorin and the war was not religious but a palace coup, of the then ruler of Ilorin, Aare Ona Kakanfo, against his Emperor, Alaafin. The coup itself failed but the seat of power in Oyo was degraded by Afonja. The war ended and Afonja returned to Ilorin as ruler. Alimi also raised an army against Afonja in Ilorin and succeeded in killing him. So you had two coups, one failed, the other succeeded. After the success of Alimi, Ilorin did not get an Emir. Alimi simply became the head of Jamaa (the faithfuls). Back in that century, muslim communities have heirarchy which is recognized by silsila (a link or chain of authority). Till today silsilas still exist, more pronounced amongst Sufi communities than in regular orthodox Islam. A silsila carried flags that bore marks of their link to a particular Shiekhdom or spiritual head. Alimi belonged to the silsila of Sheik Utman dan Fodio. So Ilorin is not a seat of dynastic Emirate, rather it is the seat of a cleric Emirate. The origin of the emirate is in the spread of spiritual knowledge. Other emirates in Nigeria were established purposely to spread Islam. No one was killed in Ilorin for religion, the war in both coups were fought to shake off dominance and patronage. In fact Ilorin was an established seat of Islamic knowledge before even Uthman dan Fodio started his jihad in North. By order of precedence and indigeneship the Fulani throne in Ilorin could be overthrown, and in fact, attempts have been made but done under military rule headed by Northerners who stepped in and protected the seat. Gradually, and to safeguard it from Yoruba reclaim they Northernized Ilorin and Kwara generally. Kwara State used to be called West Central State. Fearing the continued aggression of Yoruba as a threat to depose the Emir, Fulani agreed to co-share power. That's why you have titles as Mogaji Aare (Descendants of Aare Ona Kakanfo) and the various Baloguns (warlords) as kingmakers. Fulani continue to sit on the throne but derive his power from the Yoruba Aare and Baloguns.

Now, Jebba is North of Ilorin, in fact if anywhere in Kwara could be called North...it is Jebba that earned that right. Ilorin Emirate does not cover Jebba. Jebba is under a dynastic King, Adebara Royal Family. So when you go to North Kwara it is populated by three ethnic groups, Bariba, Nupe and Yoruba indigenes. Fulani is a settler there and does not have a king. If you go to West Kwara, it is Yoruba, go to East it is Yoruba, go to South, it is Yoruba, go to Central (Ilorin) it is Yoruba. So how is Ilorin, or even Kwara a Fulani city or state? Im waiting to hear from you.

I shared all this to update you so you can learn and interact on the internet with more respect when you speak from a position of knowledge and truthful history.

OK.
Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Agbeni33: 6:51pm On Nov 17, 2018
Binikingdowm:
angry saraki is Kwara, Kwara is saraki.

He'll win it back after Atiku wins.

He's smart, he knows Buhari will loose even tinubu(atiku boy) is already thinking of jumping


Oga wake up.

Which Tinubu?

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by alen4smith(m): 6:52pm On Nov 17, 2018
PHILipu1:

Just like how Atiku will also get less votes in the south because he is not a Christian and not from south like Jonathan in 2015.

Why you are thinking that Atiku will pick some votes from Buhari because he is from the north too like Buhari unlike Jonathan in 2015,also know that PDP will also lose some votes in the south too because Atiku is not from the zone like Jonathan in 2015.
they can't manufacture figures in the south like they use to.

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by 77up(m): 6:55pm On Nov 17, 2018
Officialpdpnig:


Oh OK. So how come I have never seen that moniker?
He's always on election updates , curious why he's not here as well.

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Stocking: 6:56pm On Nov 17, 2018
Officialpdpnig:


For real? Why have all these PDP supporters been trying to say I am that person?

Is the person male or female?
Don’t mind them .
Even if you’re butterflyleo . So far you don’t declare you are .
No moderator can do jackshit to you

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Officialpdpnig: 6:57pm On Nov 17, 2018
77up:
He's always on election updates , curious why he's not here as well.

Okay then thanks for the chat

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by MetaPhysical: 6:57pm On Nov 17, 2018
Legend007:
Can we see the remaining results please... to those who know.

I am not here for all these back and forth arguments.

Thanks.

APC has won if we use the already collated results to project victory. Lawsuits and court challenges will follow. grin

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Officialpdpnig: 6:57pm On Nov 17, 2018
Stocking:

Don’t mind them .
Even if you’re butterflyleo . So far you don’t declare you are .
No moderator can do jackshit to you

Well I am not. Thank God for that

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Binikingdowm: 6:58pm On Nov 17, 2018
Officialpdpnig:


I am sure there are markets around where you live. Do all you can to avoid them before this insanity becomes permanent
lalasticlala lalasticlala lalasticlala, I've been noticing the moniker.

He created it immediately butterflyleo was banned, he did it to mock pdp party.

He's pretending. Please do justice.

Seun this guy is killing your forum
Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by SternProphet: 6:58pm On Nov 17, 2018
Agbeni33:



Oga wake up.

Which Tinubu?

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Officialpdpnig: 6:59pm On Nov 17, 2018
I have watched live videos of the results being read out at the centers and the ones I watched tallied with the posted results here.

With what I am seeing, 2019 will be lit.

PDP bigwigs in kwara are all losing big.

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Anakin0109: 6:59pm On Nov 17, 2018
Kwara south bye election result so far
Ajase ipo 1:
Buhari polling booth, 014
APC = 112
PDP= 80
[11/17, 2:40 PM]
Ijomu APC 75 PDP 44
[11/17, 2:41 PM]
Aran Orin OKE Oje pu APC 58 vs PDP 35
[11/17, 2:41 PM]
Aran Orin OKE Oje pu APC 58 vs PDP 35
[11/17, 2:42 PM]
PU 006 ileolusin ijara APC 60 PDP 44
[11/17, 2:43 PM]
004 Unit Ijara-Isin
APC 73
PDP 16
[11/17, 2:45 PM]
004 Unit Ijara-Isin
APC 73
PDP 16
[11/17, 2:46 PM]
Olla pu 004: APC13 PDP 23
[11/17, 2:46 PM]
PAMO/OBA/Sabaja ward,counting in progress now
[11/17, 2:46 PM]
Olla ward PU :003 APC: 66 PDP:75
[11/17, 2:48 PM]
Pu 11 ile asanlu APC 41 vs 28
[11/17, 2:48 PM]
Aran Orin Igbesi APC 61 PDP 44
[11/17, 2:48 PM]
Aran Orin pu 09 APC 30 PDP 33
[11/17, 2:48 PM]
Pu:005 APC 54 PDP:66
[11/17, 2:48 PM]
town
Polling unit 001=APC 64, PDP 47-002=APC 77, PDP 35-003=APC 20, PDP 11-004=APC 24,PDP 19
[11/17, 2:50 PM]
Aran Orin Igbesi APC 61 PDP 44
[11/17, 2:50 PM]
Aran Orin pu 09 APC 30 PDP 33
[11/17, 2:55 PM]
In okeonigbin word
006.pdp,38,apc,44,
003.pdp,51.apc,71
[11/17, 2:55 PM]
IJI TOWN
005= APC 45, PDP 46-006=APC 39, PDP 30
[11/17, 2:56 PM]
Kwarabyelections poling unit o7 kudu owode APC 38 PDP 13
[11/17, 2:57 PM]
Iji isin 005 polin unit APC 45 PDP46
[11/17, 2:59 PM]
Oke Onigbin PU004
APC 191
PDP 74
UPN 1
LP 1
[11/17, 3:09 PM] ابن عبدالله أولوغن: [11/17, 3:02 PM]
Iji isin polin unit APC 39 PDP30
[11/17, 3:04 PM]
KUDU TOWN
007=APC 13, PDP 38
[11/17, 3:05 PM]
OKE-OYI TOWN
008=APC 43, PDP 46
[11/17, 3:14 PM] ابن عبدالله أولوغن: [11/17, 3:09 PM]
Ajase ipo 1:
Buhari polling booth, 014
APC = 112
PDP= 80
[11/17, 3:10 PM]
APC 58 PDP 31 PU: 007 IAYE WARD OMU ARAN
[11/17, 3:10 PM]
IJARA ISIN: Ile baale APC 73 PDP 16. Ofatedo APC 12 PDP 11 , Ile olusin APC 60 PDP 44, Baptist APC 97 PDP 31, Ajegunle APC 55 PDP 33, Ile nla APC 23 PDP 05, Oja APC 09 PDP 13, Court APC 12 PDP 06, Ayedun house APC PDP .
[11/17, 3:10 PM]
EGUDU APC 88 PDP 27
[11/17, 3:10 PM]
IJARA ISIN: Ile baale APC 73 PDP 16. Ofatedo APC 12 PDP 11 , Ile olusin APC 60 PDP 44, Baptist APC 97 PDP 31, Ajegunle APC 55 PDP 33, Ile nla APC 23 PDP 05, Oja APC 09 PDP 13, Court APC 12 PDP 06, Ayedun house APC 51 PDP 44 .
[11/17, 3:10 PM]
Aran Orin primary APC 77 PDP 21
[11/17, 3:10 PM]
Iwo ward APC 192 PDP 150
[11/17, 3:11 PM]
Omu aran world 3 unit 10 old area commander APC 183 PDP 62

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by SternProphet: 7:00pm On Nov 17, 2018
Binikingdowm:
angry saraki is Kwara, Kwara is saraki.

He'll win it back after Atiku wins.

He's smart, he knows Buhari will loose even tinubu(atiku boy) is already thinking of jumping

Tinubu the winner will jump and become loser?. The way PDP supporters brains work!!!. So wishful thinking becomes possibility. A Tinubu who just won APC will give it up because of Atiku or what exactly is this child suggesting?. It is not by gorce, if you lack intellect to understand politics ..just keep shut.

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Binikingdowm: 7:03pm On Nov 17, 2018
Lol nobody should vote for a terrorist party..

Buhari _ muslim, boko Haram, herdsmen sponsor
Osibanjo _half muslim
Oshiomole _ former Muslim but let's just say muslim
Tinubu _muslim

They arrested and killed all Christians in APC and threatened to give our lands to herdsmen.

A vote for APC is a vote for boko Haram
Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Officialpdpnig: 7:03pm On Nov 17, 2018
Binikingdowm:
lalasticlala lalasticlala lalasticlala, I've been noticing the moniker.

He created it immediately butterflyleo was banned, he did it to mock pdp party.

He's pretending. Please do justice.

Seun this guy is killing your forum

There are a few things you can so to help yourself come out from this obvious hot feeling you are feeling all over you, especially in your head.

1) Go and soak your entire head in a pot of iced water

2) Strip nude and jog 5 miles in the open

3) Go to a barber shop and get a clean shaven haircut so ventilation can get into your skull

4) Just check yourself into a mental health center.

You are clearly seeing things

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Reader530(m): 7:04pm On Nov 17, 2018
Good
Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by datribune: 7:06pm On Nov 17, 2018
spin101:
Saying Saraki dynasty is shaking is a blantant lie.If you look at 2015 election in Lagos State, PDP won 4 or 5 seats of Lagos federal constituency. But does that mean Tinubu's influence over Lagos is dying? The answer is No.PDP won those seats because they are Igbo Dominated environs. That scenario applies to this election today.( It's a Yoruba dominated Environs).

What these means is that No GodFather can win it all every election year.

I am.not a fan of Saraki or Tinubu but the truth remains that, they would both deliver their states Next year. Besides this election is just a bye one, the main one na Feb then we can determine each party's dominance

Spin Doctor, kolewerk!. Has Saraki ever lost here since 1999?.
2019 is Kwara's yr of destiny. d corrupt Saraki hegemony that has chained Kwara state to d ground wit no development, turning it into a glorified IDP poverty camp is approaching d home stretch & shall be totally dismantled in 2019. Kwarans that waited patiently to stone him at d Mosque recently will go a step further in 2019. They know that Saraki doesn't hav d full complements of d Thugs & tools of coercion that he has always relied on to win elections. It's 2019 or never. Saraki will be lucky to retain his Senate seat. U can take that to the bank.

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Officialpdpnig: 7:07pm On Nov 17, 2018
OUT OF 43 WARDS AT THE FOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT,IREPODUN, ISIN,OKEERO AND EKITI.
AJULO OPIN HAS WON 36 WARDS ALREADY BY NOW.
CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR HON.ABDUL RAHEEM OLATUNJI AJULOOPIN IN ADVANCE

APC is deadly at the polls

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Jchi9876: 7:08pm On Nov 17, 2018
Hmm
Landslide
Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Reader530(m): 7:09pm On Nov 17, 2018
ORIENTATION101:
ironically buhari competed with yar adua and atiku in that same election and got 12 millions votes while atiku got 2 millions .so atiku is not a match for buhari in northgrin
Which Buhari got 12 million with Yaradua? In 2007, Yaradua got 24 million, Buhari 6 million and Atiku 2 million. Google is your friend. We thought Buhari would provide solution that's why everybody shouted Buhari in the past. 2019 is a done deal for Atiku
Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Stocking: 7:10pm On Nov 17, 2018
Binikingdowm:
Lol nobody should vote for a terrorist party..

Buhari _ muslim, boko Haram, herdsmen sponsor
Osibanjo _half muslim
Oshiomole _ former Muslim but let's just say muslim
Tinubu _muslim

They arrested and killed all Christians in APC and threatened to give our lands to herdsmen.

A vote for APC is a vote for boko Haram
Igbos are so easy to spot on Nairaland these days

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Binikingdowm: 7:11pm On Nov 17, 2018
Stocking:

Igbos are so easy to spot on Nairaland these days
igbo ke Fulani ko
Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Stocking: 7:11pm On Nov 17, 2018
Reader530:

Which Buhari got 12 million with Yaradua? In 2007, Yaradua got 24 million, Buhari 6 million and Atiku 2 million. Google is your friend. We thought Buhari would provide solution that's why everybody shouted Buhari in the past. 2019 is a done deal for Atiku
So... 2 million is greater that 6 million?

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Re: Live Update: Kwara Bye Election by Binikingdowm: 7:12pm On Nov 17, 2018
Reader530:

Which Buhari got 12 million with Yaradua? In 2007, Yaradua got 24 million, Buhari 6 million and Atiku 2 million. Google is your friend. We thought Buhari would provide solution that's why everybody shouted Buhari in the past. 2019 is a done deal for Atiku
grin are you seriously minding them?
I'm just catching fun here, the kind bearing buhari will receive ehn

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