Babyvet:


The reason why I mentioned after is because people said the children would be able to survive after living here. I take care people who are in her shoes regularly , they go through much worse because now they're sick and don't have papers.

Where were you born? Just curious. I don't doubt you help people like her, so do I; but I can never say to someone "I understand" if I'm not currently in their shoes. In fact, I know someone worse off than her, and he just got his permanent residency. My advise to her is based on personal experience.

maternal:


Single mother with 2 kids and 3k USD under her name. She wouldn't qualify under any program to move to another develop country, talk less have the funds. Furthermore, these countries share information and her over-stay in the U.S would definitely be known. If she leaves America, she'll most likely never step foot in another developed nation again.

Now thats a very big lie. Every country has their own immigration laws.

Itiswellblessed:


Moving to another country is not even in my dictionary should I move back to Nigeria, I'm done with relocation for good...lol

Within a month you'd be looking for a way out if you returned to naija. I can bet my life on it.

maternal:


Her reality and yours are completely different. You can't make such without being in her shoes.

Babyvet:


Now thats a very big lie. Every country has their own immigration laws.

Exactly. She wouldn't qualify for any immigration program unless she had a spouse in one of those countries, and they're ready to sponsor her and her kids. Where were you born ?

maternal:


Where were you born? Just curious. I don't doubt you help people like her, so do I; but I can never say to someone "I understand" if I'm not currently in their shoes. In fact, I know someone worse off than her, and he just got his permanent residency. My advise to her is based on personal experience.

I was not born in the us, so I have been through the immigration system here and know the system very well. I have sat down and researched it myself. You are based in Canada, the Us is different when it comes to immigration. We have a serious immigration problem and its affecting everybody.

maternal:


Exactly. She wouldn't qualify for any immigration program unless she had a spouse in one of those countries, and they're ready to sponsor her and her kids. Where were you born ?

Which country? I never mentioned any country to immigrate, I just told the op to keep her options open.

maternal:


Within a month you'd be looking for a way out if you returned to naija. I can bet my life on it.

pacificman:


damn what is wrong with these kids...she can never apply for visa to any other country..she is ILLEGAL IN AMERICA...only option is to get married there and become legal and apply or come back to nigeria and try another country and yes overstaying in america would affected her chances to travel to canada or EU...she can go to china..they dont care..but eu countries or canada or australia would never give her visa on that passport with usa overstay.got it!

pacific man, please keep your frustration to yourself, you are very ignorant person and uncivilized person. You have not left the shores of Nigeria and you want to to tell me about immigration. You are whats wrong with Nigeria , ignorant government and people. Nigerians also need to take responsbility, of why the country is bad.

Babyvet:


I was not born in the us, so I have been through the immigration system here and know the system very well. I have sat down and researched it myself. You are based in Canada, the Us is different when it comes to immigration. We have a serious immigration problem and its affecting everybody.

Where were you born ?

You're proving my point. With a tiny population in Canada (37 million), a pro immigration prime minister, sanctuary cities, different immigration programs she can apply for, etc, why she's wasting her time in a country (U.S) that has an immigration program, with a clearly racists and anti- immigration President/administration is beyond me.

maternal:


Where were you born ?

You're proving my point. With a tiny population in Canada (37 million), a pro immigration prime minister, sanctuary cities, different immigration programs she can apply for, etc, why she's wasting her time in a country (U.S) that has an immigration program, with a clearly racists and anti- immigration President/administration is beyond me.

What point? I think there is a mis understanding , you may be confusing my posts with somebody else. I repeatedly suggested that the op not remain the US without her papers. I even at one point suggest Canada through the skilled workers program but that was shut down by other posters because the op has been working here illegally. But the op does not want to relocate anyway at this point.

sassysure:

It is.

It's very bad.

Definitely not.

Babyvet:


What point? I think there is a mis understanding , you may be confusing my posts with somebody else. I repeatedly suggested that the op not remain the US without her papers. I even at one point suggest Canada but that was shut down by other posters.

I must have. Some posts were deleted. My mistake.

maternal:


Single mother with 2 kids and 3k USD under her name. She wouldn't qualify under any program to move to another develop country, talk less have the funds. Furthermore, these countries share information and her over-stay in the U.S would definitely be known. If she leaves America, she'll most likely never step foot in another developed nation again.

That is not true

justwise:
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That is not true

*most likely*. Elaborate.

maternal:


Exactly. She wouldn't qualify for any immigration program unless she had a spouse in one of those countries, and they're ready to sponsor her and her kids. Where were you born ?

This a daca recipient who moved to Canada.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2018/02/9e349338dd61-feature-korean-daca-recipient-saw-life-uprooted-in-move-to-canada.html

Itiswellblessed:
Thanks guys. I think I'll just try and save up as much as I can for now. If within those periods I'm able to do my papers, fine and good. If not, I'll just move back to Nigeria.

Do that and transfer to your Nigeria account each time naira goes down,with money transfer agencies you can run your Nigerian account smoothly from anywhere in the world, within an hour or so the money is your account and it cost you close to nothing.

Good luck

maternal:


Single mother with 2 kids and 3k USD under her name. She wouldn't qualify under any program to move to another develop country, talk less have the funds. Furthermore, these countries share information and her over-stay in the U.S would definitely be known. If she leaves America, she'll most likely never step foot in another developed nation again.

Now thats a very big lie. Every country has their own immigration laws.

justwise:


Definitely not.

But it is the headquarters of poverty in the world, and every indices of a failed state is in Nigeria, countries like Somali, Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan and South Sudan which are having serious security and political problems are sometimes lumped together by different international organizations when classifying countries that are doing well and those at the bottom of the ladder, only few elites connected to the rogues in power are smiling in Nigeria, the majority of people in Nigeria are going through serious economic challenges despite the natural resources available which is in the hands of few rogues

Babyvet:


I’m not being insentive, I’m being real. If people want to move to another country legally by all means they should go ahead .It’s obvious that things are not going to well for the op and she has concerns about her/children future, that’s why created the post. They are not legal here and wasting time here and waiting for the unknown it not worth it. I live here and see the stressors that both U.S citizens , legal immigrants and illegal immigrants go through . In my opinion , the op should go another country. Her and her children are still young and can start life afresh somewhere else where they can maximize their potential,it’s does not have to be Nigeria.

Which country do you want op to go to that will give her immediate legal status? Like i said earlier, majority of immigrants here today came in with just visiting visa. The 1st few years may be rough but it worth it at the long run most especially when kids are involved.
Hypocrite will tell you to leave whereas they all find way to legalized their status.
You can move to place like Chicago, Houston or New York. Work hard, save enough money, try to find a way to legalize your status and worse case scenario you get deported. By then you have enough money to start afresh when you get back to naija.
Please never go back home without exploring all available option. Do not allow your village people to win this battle. US sweet gan unless you belong to middle/upper class level in naija.

Babyvet:


I lived in Nigeria after being born abroad and lived abroad from some years and I came out just fine . In fact it helped shaped me for the better. I like America but in my opinion it’s not worth it to live here illegally.

It's not worth it only if you belong to middle/upper class level in naija but if you are struggling in naija, trust me US is your best option either legal or illegal.

Bishopp007:


Which country do you want op to go to that will give her immediate legal status? Like i said earlier, majority of immigrants here today came in with just visiting visa. The 1st few years may be rough but it worth it at the long run most especially when kids are involved.
Hypocrite will tell you to leave whereas they all find way to legalized their status.
You can move to place like Chicago, Houston or New York. Work hard, save enough money, try to find a way to legalize your status and worse case scenario you get deported. By then you have enough money to start afresh when you get back to naija.
Please never go back home without exploring all available option. Do not allow your village people to win this battle. US sweet gan unless you belong to middle/upper class level in naija.

Majority with visiting visa? Please provide links before making such blanket statement. In what they did legalize their stay? Her options to legalization in this country are very limited since has overstayed for 4 years. Even the op has mentioned that herself. Please stop with this village talk nonsense.

justwise:


Definitely not.

But you don't live in Nigeria. What yardstick are you using to measure this?

maternal:


Within a month you'd be looking for a way out if you returned to naija. I can bet my life on it .

Please don't. There are many people, legal residents of advanced countries, that have moved back to Nigeria and loving it. People are different and react differently in certain situations. I also know many people in Nigeria with the skills and means to migrate to the west but have chosen to remain.

Bishopp007:


It's not worth it only if you belong to middle/upper class level in naija but if you are struggling in naija, trust me US is your best option either legal or illegal.

No its not worth it. Read this article about who immigrated from South Korea as child with parents to America legally via work sponsorship. The work sponsorship did not pan out well and eventually they all lost their status. His parents returned to South Korea while eventually he became daca beneficiary. Due to all the limitations of daca and bunch of other issues, he moved to Canada as a legal immigrant.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2018/02/9e349338dd61-feature-korean-daca-recipient-saw-life-uprooted-in-move-to-canada.html

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I can't imagine how frustrated it can be for you at the moment but don't be too rash in rushing back to Nigeria, not after 4 years out there. I would advice you find possible ways to raise funds, (start a vlog) , (home cooked naija meals, if you can get the raw and cash in on the 9ja community), (try to associate with a few Nigerians over there, possibly from ur church or so who knows u'd meet ur helper). You'll need to explore ur bizness acumen (self-discipline).
But please do not hastily return to Nigeria in ur current financial situation - ur kids are in a free school at moment and benefit free health which u cannot find in Nigeria (pry school and sec school fees is expensive o) and you'll take a while to adjust back to Nigeria (I've been there) and don't be 100% sure about the family.
* Its a different thing when you are not depending solely on them*(make them kno distribute ur kids among themselves in the name of helping you)
Pls save as much as you can, explore different moneymaking options (thank God there is good internet and electricity in US) then you weigh out your options (relocating to another country or Nigeria).
above all, you hold the key to ur destiny, draw out a plan, explore ideas.
All the best and Gods speed.!

deepchocolate:



Don't get me wrong being a citizen give me numerous opportunities when it comes to get a job and pay the bills etc.... ( which is what 90% of people here do anyway. The system is set up that way . No escape from it ) .

America has its own realities and ramifications . You have to come , Feel it to truly understand . Forget about what people say and what you see on hollywood TV show..

The fact is , for the sake of showing that they have made it in life , many people in the diaspora don't tell the truth .
I am 36 . I spent 20 years here , study here . Have a great career . No complain on that front ...
I might not know it all , but I have seen it or experienced it .

1- here , You are strictly on your own . The system itself have no soul and only care about money .
Your family members have their own bills and wahala to worry about . This is how children here abandon their elderly parents in nursing home and move on with their own life.

2- here , nothing really belong to you . Whatever you think you have , you can lose it anytime.
30 years mortgage . You finish paying . The minute you owe property tax , The municipality will take that house from you and sell it.
Years ago I rented a room to a lady in her 70 who used to own 2 houses. Lost the first one through bankrupcy . Second one due to sickness and she couldn't pay .

If you have big ambitions , Africa is where the untapped opportunities are right now.
The way my brothers kill themselves here working 2 , 3 jobs just to survive and pay bills ,
If they could apply the same energy and a bit of creativity many would have been billionaire in Naija.


As for you friend who is saving $3500 a month , ask him to borrow you $1000 only for emergency. Or 100 even .
You will see his reaction and judge for yourself if he is truly saving that much.

The bolded cracked me laughing
Now the question is does he friend truly saving 3.5K? Is that true?
If that is true, what exactly is he doing?
We can't be guillable. We know that people can make money through illicit activities

Itiswellblessed:
Thanks guys. I think I'll just try and save up as much as I can for now. If within those periods I'm able to do my papers, fine and good. If not, I'll just move back to Nigeria.

Understandable this must be a very hard decision for you to make either way.

Wish you best of luck.

sassysure:

But you don't live in Nigeria. What yardstick are you using to measure this?

I visit Nigeria yearly and i have many family members doing far better than me who are making a decent living in Nigeria, they travel out only for work and go back.

Millions of people are still living in Nigeria and thousands of foreigners are working and living there.

I left Nigeria as a grown up adult so don't tell me about Nigeria as if you are talking to a foreigner on picnic

maternal:


Within a month you'd be looking for a way out if you returned to naija. I can bet my life on it.

How i wish that is possible..i really do.