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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Jackossky(m): 10:20am On Dec 09, 2018
musicwriter:


There's no ONE truth!!. You create your own truth based on your perceptions/experiences.

Of course, my own truths depend on my perceptions so far. You may pick one or two points here and add to your own truths or even reject it. Our truths is the reason we all behave differently.

See pic below

Smiles. Let everyone just hold on to their belief. Truth is not only subjective but relative. What makes something to be true? We first have to know it is true, know it is true and have a justification for it
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by musicwriter(m): 10:24am On Dec 09, 2018
Goodlyhrt:
@ musicwriter you had a good argument till you flawed it with your definition of truth being subjective, I must bring to your notice the fact that there are universal truth eg. 1+1=2. Maybe you are having a hard time separating truth from fact.

I think you're mixing up truth and fact yourself.

1+1 = 2 is a fact, its REALITY, of course. Fact is REALITY, at least on this 3D dimension. Truth on the other hand is our our perception and acknowledgement of reality.

OK. lets change the reality by creating a reality game.

Lets accept that letter ''A'' shall represent 1 in an unknown language. Lets also accept that letter ''B'' shall represent 2 in an unknown language.

Lets also agree that ''-'' shall represent +. Finally, lets agree that ''@'' shall represent =

Therefore, in this unknown language, A-A @ B. This is our truth now, however, it doesn't change the reality of twoness.

Hope you get it.

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by ednut1(m): 10:38am On Dec 09, 2018
jeff1607:


the british wiped and cut down a lot if empires some still stand as at today, please try getting close to some of the soldiers that return from the Boko Haram insurgency they will tell you what they have seen.

Also with truck drivers that play long routes, how do you explain an accident scene where the driver disappears and the motor boy is around and no bush or trail around ,it just happened right in front of you, people disappear in case you don't know but it has it's repercussions.not just years cut down but things involved.

even in government public schools I mean core public schools kids test themselves .

the monarchy system in Egypt is no more, same with Ghana but we still have done surviving in Nigeria, look around you not just stories,

if you love adventure try seeing with your own eyes.


people hold rain also.

can someone explain to me why is it during market days in either lusada or agbara it rains so heavily,
i hear u o
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by opribo(m): 11:16am On Dec 09, 2018
@OP, what power do you as a human being have when you are living on borrowed time.
You cannot even tell the hour nor time when you will depart this earth.

So for that alone I say you are powerless unless by grace you succeed. Don't forget you may not be the best but you made it. Sometimes you have all it takes, you have done everything others did yet you did not succeed.

Whoever God chooses to bless, HE will bless that one.
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Goodlyhrt(m): 11:21am On Dec 09, 2018
musicwriter:


I think you're mixing up truth and fact yourself.

1+1 = 2 is a fact, its REALITY, of course. Fact is REALITY, at least on this 3D dimension. Truth on the other hand is our our perception and acknowledgement of reality.

OK. lets change the reality by creating a reality game.

Lets accept that letter ''A'' shall represent 1 in an unknown language. Lets also accept that letter ''B'' shall represent 2 in an unknown language.

Lets also agree that ''-'' shall represent +. Finally, lets agree that ''@'' shall represent =

Therefore, in this unknown language, A-A @ B. This is our truth now, however, it doesn't change the reality of twoness.

Hope you get it.

I agree with you and you are yet to understand my earlier post.


I mean there are universal truth that holds true for all occurrences which is not subjective to an individual perception of truth and we term such person as ignorant.


I am not religious but I believe that there are realities that have been established that are more superior to our physical realm and failure to acknowledge them screams so much of ignorance. Like you said nature is always right and I believe that there are limits to what we can comprehend/achieve atleast that is why we are in this realm.

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by musicwriter(m): 11:37am On Dec 09, 2018
Goodlyhrt:
I agree with you and you are yet to understand my earlier post.


I mean there are universal truth that holds true for all occurrences which is not subjective to an individual perception of truth and we term such person as ignorant.


I am not religious but I believe that there are realities that have been established that are more superior to our physical realm and failure to acknowledge them screams so much of ignorance. Like you said nature is always right and I believe that there are limits to what we can comprehend/achieve atleast that is why we are in this realm.

In the metaphysical realm those things that are established are called REALITY. Science call it FACT.

Truth is just a layman's term for them. There's no ONE universal truth.

See video below. The guy explained difference between truth and fact/reality very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBDXkeEmybM
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by musicwriter(m): 11:56am On Dec 09, 2018
Anybody interested in opening up your mind to hidden knowledge of the nature of reality, please see the below book. Its 4 hours but its worth it for serious seekers, only.

Its an audiobook of the kybalion, which is ancient teachings of the ancient Egyptians. It was developed by an African God-man called Thot or Tehuti but which the Greeks highjacked and called the teachings of Hermes Trimegistus.

Its from here that all the world religions and secret societies got their theosophy and philosophy after bastardizing the original African truth. This one survived but many were burnt down by Greece and Rome in the ancient African libraries.

The nature of reality

Female voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XEnHiu_Qfg

Male voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYTJwgXjb7w

Should you need the e-book version, email: kemeticphilosophy@gmail

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by hahn(m): 12:09pm On Dec 09, 2018
Xlyad:
although that is not the matter at hand,by your logic can you also prove that your parents conceived you with pictorial evidence? Moreover, proofs don't start and end with the sense of sight.it is in the same measure we study the properties of atoms despite the fact that even the greatest of scientists have never seen an atom.

But heaven is a "place" right and all places can be seen. Are you comparing a place like heaven supposedly with mansions and angels and golden thrones with atoms? undecided
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Uyi168: 12:25pm On Dec 09, 2018
jeff1607:




bro it won't hurt you to kill just a bat , would it?
..
What's so special about killing a bat??
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by jeff1607(m): 1:34pm On Dec 09, 2018
Uyi168:
.. What's so special about killing a bat??

curious or you wanna try?

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Xlyad(m): 1:52pm On Dec 09, 2018
hahn:


But heaven is a "place" right and all places can be seen. Are you comparing a place like heaven supposedly with mansions and angels and golden thrones with atoms? undecided
you are right about heaven being a place but no so about being able to see all places. Or do I also ask: since an atom is a thing made up of protons ,neutrons and electrons and as such should be seeable. But that is not the point. Heaven is a place for pure spirits and the easiest way to see heaven is to become a spirit.

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by hahn(m): 1:57pm On Dec 09, 2018
Xlyad:
you are right about heaven being a place but no so about being able to see all places. Or do I also ask: since an atom is a thing made up of protons ,neutrons and electrons and as such should be seeable. But that is not the point. Heaven is a place for spirits and the easiest way to see heaven is to become a spirit.

Atoms can be tested and proven to exist despite being naked to the human eye and there are many experiments to prove they exist.

Can you point to any experiment that proves that heaven or spirits exist?

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Xlyad(m): 2:26pm On Dec 09, 2018
hahn:


Atoms can be tested and proven to exist despite being naked to the human eye and there are many experiments to prove they exist.

Can you point to any experiment that proves that heaven or spirits exist?
Absolutely.Being a spiritual home, there are several spiritual proofs of its existence.the apparatus for either experiment are different.
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 2:39pm On Dec 09, 2018
jeff1607:



curious or you wanna try?

from all your comment, you look like a supersitious person. People kill bat everday and are still alive. Bat are in my opinion flying rats that eat insects.

Your claim of drivers dissappearing in an accident are all based on rumour and nigerian movies.

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by okrikaboi: 2:50pm On Dec 09, 2018
musicwriter:

There's no devil. There's no Jesus.
However, you can create one for yourself.
You must have met Billyonaire/Humandroid you are sounding like him
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by WIZGUY69(m): 3:16pm On Dec 09, 2018
jeff1607:


the [s]british wiped and cut down a lot if empires some still stand as at today, please try getting close to some of the soldiers that return from the Boko Haram insurgency they will tell you what they have seen.

Also with truck drivers that play long routes, how do you explain an accident scene where the driver disappears and the motor boy is around and no bush or trail around ,it just happened right in front of you, people disappear in case you don't know but it has it's repercussions.not just years cut down but things involved.

even in government public schools I mean core public schools kids test themselves .

the monarchy system in Egypt is no more, same with Ghana but we still have done surviving in Nigeria, look around you not just stories,

if you love adventure try seeing with your own eyes.


people hold rain also.

can someone explain to me why is it during market days in either lusada or agbara it rain[/s]s so heavily,
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by jeff1607(m): 4:10pm On Dec 09, 2018
thebosstrevor:


from all your comment, you look like a supersitious person. People kill bat everday and are still alive. Bat are in my opinion flying rats that eat insects.

Your claim of drivers dissappearing in an accident are all based on rumour and nigerian movies.

bro bats fly all over the word except Antarctica same as snakes ,some are forbidden to be killed in some places not everywhere. Even in the Eastern part of Nigeria.




get close to long distance truck drivers and make enquiry


all you need do is travel , see places , learn other people's culture and beliefs it doesn't hurt knowing other cultures in your country
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 4:14pm On Dec 09, 2018
jeff1607:


bro bats fly all over the word except Antarctica same as snakes ,some are forbidden to be killed in some places not everywhere. Even in the Eastern part of Nigeria.




get close to long distance truck drivers and make enquiry


all you need do is travel , see places , learn other people's culture and beliefs it doesn't hurt knowing other cultures in your country

supersition is ur reality
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by jeff1607(m): 4:33pm On Dec 09, 2018
thebosstrevor:

supersition is ur reality

chineke!!
say what you want
superstition ain't a religion or way of life

culture bro , culture

for one to know other people's traditions and beliefs
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 4:41pm On Dec 09, 2018
jeff1607:



chineke!!

say what you want

superstition ain't a religion or way of life


culture bro , culture


for one to know other people's traditions and beliefs

but the europeans came and conquer the land. Why didnt they disappear when the people were in trouble.
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by hahn(m): 5:06pm On Dec 09, 2018
Xlyad:
Absolutely.Being a spiritual home, there are several spiritual proofs of its existence.the apparatus for either experiment are different.

So what is the apparatus used to determine if heaven is real?

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 5:10pm On Dec 09, 2018
hahn:


So what is the apparatus used to determine if heaven is real?

Burette, pipette, Retord Stand, cornical flask, white tiles, wash bottle, funnel.

It’s basic titration bro grin

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by jeff1607(m): 5:46pm On Dec 09, 2018
thebosstrevor:


but the europeans came and conquer the land. Why didnt they disappear when the people were in trouble.


why didn't oyo empire, benin empire and monarchy system collapse like the way other countries that the british made obsolete.


they sold slaves to the british, the line of succession still continues despite the coming of the british, even during inter tribal wars one becomes the Victor, sometimes a generation of a particular tribe is wiped off to show dominance, unless you ain't pedigree you wouldn't value what your ancestors went through.

it's the same as saying the Jews going through persecution even wen the Messiah originated from there.


they fought many wars they won some and they also lost some ,that has been the way of all civilisation


why do think there are no respected Kings in East ?

reason is the British came and made warrant chiefs ,they are now the igwe people refer to after the British left. no royalty no pedigree.

there is One God still

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by CAPSLOCKED: 5:52pm On Dec 09, 2018
Jackossky:


Smiles. Let everyone just hold on to their belief.

THIS IS THE REASON FOR THE DEATH OF MANY CHRISTIANS IN KADUNA, BENUE, PLATEAU, AND ADAMAWA STATES OF NIGERIA.

IT IS THE REASON YOUNG GIRLS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND SOME PARTS OF ASIA ARE TIED UP AND SLAUGHTERED LIKE PIGS FOR NOT BEING VIRGINS.

IT IS THE REASONS WOMEN IN INDIA AND NEPAL UNDERGO THE WHIPPING RITUAL, AND SOMETIMES SET ON FIRE.

IT IS THE REASON DEFENSELESS, INNOCENT ANIMALS, CHILDREN AND OLD WOMEN ARE ABUSED AND SOMETIMES KILLED IN NIGERIA FOR BEING WITCHES.

RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ARE VERY DANGEROUS IDEAS THAT MUST BE RIDICULED, REJECTED, AND ABANDONED IF WE'RE HOPING FOR TRUE LOVE, UNITY, AND PROGRESS AS HUMANS.

THANKS.

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Dboy55(m): 5:59pm On Dec 09, 2018
musicwriter:
Anybody interested in opening up your mind to hidden knowledge of the nature of reality, please see the below book. Its 4 hours but its worth it for serious seekers, only.

Its an audiobook of the kybalion, which is ancient teachings of the ancient Egyptians. It was developed by an African God-man called Thot or Tehuti but which the Greeks highjacked and called the teachings of Hermes Trimegistus.

Its from here that all the world religions and secret societies got their theosophy and philosophy after bastardizing the original African truth. This one survived but many were burnt down by Greece and Rome in the ancient African libraries.

The nature of reality

Female voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XEnHiu_Qfg

Male voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYTJwgXjb7w

Should you need the e-book version, email: kemeticphilosophy@gmail
Hi I just,sent an email to your mail box concerning this book,please though reply me .

Thanks
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 6:01pm On Dec 09, 2018
jeff1607:



why didn't oyo empire, benin empire and monarchy system collapse like the way other countries that the british made obsolete.


they sold slaves to the british, the line of succession still continues despite the coming of the british, even during inter tribal wars one becomes the Victor, sometimes a generation of a particular tribe is wiped off to show dominance, unless you ain't pedigree you wouldn't value what your ancestors went through.

it's the same as saying the Jews going through persecution even wen the Messiah originated from there.


they fought many wars they won some and they also lost some ,that has been the way of all civilisation


why do think there are no respected Kings in East ?

reason is the British came and made warrant chiefs ,they are now the igwe people refer to after the British left. no royalty no pedigree.

the oyo empire had collaspe before the British arrived, the benin empire was destroyed by the British. Lagos was bombarded.

The british colonised nigeria with weapons. Why were the natives not doing odeshe or disappearing.
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 6:06pm On Dec 09, 2018
okrikaboi:

You must have met Billyonaire/Humandroid you are sounding like him
He sounds like humandroid because the concepts and issues these independent thinkers state are deep knowledge of philosophy and metaphysics.

Such is the nature of facts as opposed to truth and belief: 2 different people will describe a fact or reality in the same way and a fact is usually objective, unlike truths and beliefs that are subjective and vary from one person to the other, from one culture to the other, from one religion to the other, inter alia.
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by jeff1607(m): 6:19pm On Dec 09, 2018
thebosstrevor:


the oyo empired had collaspe before the british arrived, the benin empire was destroyed by the british. Lagos was bombaded.

The british colonised nigeria with weapons. Why were the natives not doing odeshe or disappearing.


there is One God still




so Oyo monarchy system has disappeared into thin air right?

I agree with you on the British colonising Nigeria with weapons but they came bearing gifts, before you can capture a territory (not destroying o)no matter the the weapons you have you also need to know the land and understand it's people, the British were superior in weapons but didn't mean others didn't challenge them neither was it easy, stories in history confirms that ,Spartans ,mecedonians, Greeks etc believed in their God's but were still conquered same as isreal but it didn't mean they didn't put up a fight.


where does your belief stand?

Christianity, islam , Buddhism or otherwise?
Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 6:23pm On Dec 09, 2018
Though most claims of supernatural feats, jazz are exaggerated and bogus, from my personal research, concepts like shape-shifting, dream-walking, entering the minds of others to twist their realities, teleportation are real.

Most people here would have inadvertently entered the dreams of others to tell them things or would have been at the receiving end of such an act (dream-walking).

People that see bizzare things, like a floating needle and those deceptive tricks of magicians, only have their minds entered into by the performer or jazz man, who twists their realities as he pleases, based on how skilful he is.

They are simply illusions, not real.

One way of achieving teleportation is to have some deep understanding of reality in a spatiotemporal manner, at a quantum level, and move through 4D at the speed of light or faster...

Genuine supernatural feats are scientific in nature but the problem is separating the real ones from fakes and exaggerations.

I envision science (quantum science, noetic science, paraphysics, parapsychology) will one day unravel the secrets behind these concepts.

Though I feel there are powerful people in our world that are shape-shifters and know the techniques for performing all these feats.

But they guard the secrets jealously, and I don't think today's world is ripe for some technologies.

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Xlyad(m): 6:38pm On Dec 09, 2018
cry
PRESENTATION:


Burette, pipette, Retord Stand, cornical flask, white tiles, wash bottle, funnel.

It’s basic titration bro grin
. How does one explain the colour of the rainbow to a blind man?How does one convert a lion to a herbivore? I am not one to spend my time on a lost cause. First ,you don't seem to believe in the spiritual which is the premise upon which I would build my argument and that in itself might be an awful waste of my time. My position above is inspired by 1 Corinthians 2v6-16. Verse 14 put it succinctly: a natural (carnal) man does not accept the things of the spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them because they are spiritually appraised.I am almost sure you consider the Bible to be a book of fables ,don't you?

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Re: Message To Native Doctors And Ritualists- The Science Of Jazz by Nobody: 8:37pm On Dec 09, 2018
Xlyad:
cry. How does one explain the colour of the rainbow to a blind man?How does one convert a lion to a herbivore? I am not one to spend my time on a lost cause. First ,you don't seem to believe in the spiritual which is the premise upon which I would build my argument and that in itself might be an awful waste of my time. My position above is inspired by 1 Corinthians 2v6-16. Verse 14 put it succinctly: a natural (carnal) man does not accept the things of the spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them because they are spiritually appraised.I am almost sure you consider the Bible to be a book of fables ,don't you?

Stop quoting bible and tell Yahweh to help his people up north solve Book Haram(According to Oluwo of Iwo) like he did when he helped the children of Isreal escape from Egypt after killing all first son in Egypt.

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