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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:44pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: I thought Pellegrini coached Malaga? Did he also coach Villarreal? I remember the run to the quarterfinals though with the likes of Demichelis. That's by the way. I would personally want Chukwueze to move to either Sevilla or Valencia, I have absolutely no inkling as to what goes on in Atletico but if he is actually wanted to come and replace Vitolo who himself is behind Lemar and Correa fighting for one spot then that would be a bad choice. Sevilla and Valencia play brilliant sweeping football and I think he would thrive there, or worse comes to worse stay with Villarreal and become a god there. That's why I like Aduritz, despite all the interest he stayed put which is what Inaki Williams is doing now and they are rewarding him with a better contract. The move to Atletico is a bad one 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:47pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: If he drops deep shouldn't he be the one giving the final balls? I mean the other day against Levante, Messi played upfront with Suarez and when he dropped deep he created a goal out of nothing for Suarez as well as other chances for Suarez and Denis which they missed. So I don't understand how he will drop deep and still the final balls will be poor, that means he isn't creative |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:47pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: What intelligent players do is play in systems that favor their talents. Look at Jadon Sancho moving from Manchester City to Borussia Dortmund. Today all whistles are on him. You think Sancho will have the hype he has now playing for Leicester City? Look at Aubameyang who had the liberty of missing three good chances in a game at Dortmund and still score two. Today, he is at Arsenal, exercising the same liberty. Suarez moved from Ajax to Liverpool to Barcelona. That is a brilliant player who always considered the teams philosophy before moving. Before he joined Barcelona, there was a chance of him moving to Arsenal. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ikanium(m): 10:48pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Earthquake2:it's actually Dele Ali 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 10:49pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
elyte89: Does Troost Ekong have a Yoruba dad? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:50pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: But how is it not justified when he actually gets chances and he misses them. I mean look at the game against South Africa he missed the chance he got, does he need twenty chances to score? Then he isn't clinical. By the way what I was implying was that if push comes to shove Pelligrini would easily adopt a defensive approach to save his job unlike managers like Siasia for example. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:51pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:51pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: You can see you are judging play with an offensive strategy. Leicester City is not Barcelona. Heck, it is not even Swansea or Bristol City. Heck not even Brighton. When Nacho falls deep, you still do not get enough forward runs to play final ball. So when Nacho drops deep, it is to increase the passing option in the middle, enabling interplay and then he makes run into space for the pass. When he makes the run, we are back to square one. Poor passes or passing choices. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:59pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Diavolo: When I said he got the bait, I knew what I saw. His position is final, authentic and one with fact, devoid of all forms of emotive bias and prejudices while anyone else's is always self-advised, lacking in merit and substance. Trying to reach a logical ground with that young man is a futile activity, which is why I've chosen to ignore him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:01pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: I can give you a list of players that have gone to such teams and they still pull such numbers. Diego Costa feeds on scraps in Atletico, I cannot point out any truly creative player there just workhorses everywhere (please don't call Saul or Joke creative players) but he still scores over and again. Carol once played under Big Sam in West Ham and it didn't stop him one bit. Players make moves that will suit their playing style, yes if I argue with that then I am juat lying through my teeth but the fact of the matter, the present continuous is that Iheanacho has a five year contract with Leicester. Telling everybody that they should keep quiet while he keeps on losing form is not possible, he made the decision when he moved to the club, I will give you kudos because you wanted him to stay back at City, I at some point believe I did so too but he didn't do it, he is at Leicester now and after two seasons he should have learnt well enough that he is in a new, dire environment |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:02pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: They play a 4-4-2 system if he drops deep I am certain Vardy will make proper runs for him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:06pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: You miss the point. The point is in the game against SA Nacho made repeated good runs and the passes did not come. Saying he missed one or two does not mean he is not clinical. Do you see how many chances Gabriel Jesus gets to miss? Put Nacho in such system and see his stats rise. As for Pellegrini, he always adopts a compact set-up when his teams loses the ball and when they get the ball back, they attack in full force. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:09pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: If it is for Vardy runs, then it has nothing to do with build-up because the man just dashes and expects long balls. It is different from dropping deep to make cohesive play for a good final pass. The problem is the system to get the best from Nacho. Not to get the best from Vardy. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:10pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
andrew444:Not like before sha. time would tell soon. I never hear that kine rule before, say club enforce a player to never ever switch off his fone or else he'd be dealt with in a big way. He loves to play pes than kick football again. Nawa o |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:10pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Earthquake2:This is true though. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:11pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: You are totally not getting the point. Look At Chicarito for instance. He will not flourish playing for Tony Pullis at Stoke. Diego Costa can. Iheanacho is more of a Chicarito kind of player than a Costa. It is impossible to expect Chicarito to function like Costa. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:12pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:14pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: From what I see, Costa 4 league goals in 26 league appearances. Even Costa finds it difficult in such system. Let alone a player like Nacho. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:17pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: The point is Nacho made a wrong move. I knew this was going to happen before he moved. I am just explaining what I was arguing against. Now is the time for Nacho's agents to earn the money he made them and work on a move for him to a more offensive side that creates chances at will. Adapting to Leicester City style of play will only slow him down. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:18pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Wait, in this last match against SA? That's before or after he was subbed? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:22pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Hmm. So if you have a team with Nacho and Vardy you will setup the team to get the best out of Iheanacho and not Vardy? You know...that guy that broke Ruud's record of scoring in 12 games, that's the guy you will leave out for a player with 16 goals in 84 appearances. Toh I am dumbfounded sha. Meanwhile I think you aren't getting my points, if Iheanacho drops deep and collects the ball he will definitely see Vardy making runs then he can connect passes to him, finito so he does not have to be at the end of the final passes. He can create for the team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:23pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Joebie: You like to confuse yourself. You were just talking about us being ashamed of our poor system but now you are focusing on the evil doer? Focus on those that are proven guilty but don't come and tell us that we are all bad people just because our country is bad. We should not have to be castigated for the next man's mistake and it should not make us suspects. This is where we really get it wrong. People love to form opinions without information. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:24pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: Pellegrini was at Villareal. Took over the team when they got promoted and led them to the Champions league semi finals where they crashed out to Arsenal after Roman Riquelme missed a penalty that would have taken them to the finals against Barcelona. He had Senna, Sorin, Riquelme, Carzola, Forlan in that team. Coached Malaga. When he took over them, they were number 20 on the table. When he was done with them, they reached the semi finals of the Champions league and his best work was with Isco.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:24pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: You know how this agent thing works right? You don't just go to Wolves and tell them that you have a player you want to sell to them and they will just come and buy. As at now hardly anybody wants him for 10M never mind the 25M Leicester may want to get back, he needs to make himself relevant again by churning out top performances and he isn't going to so that if he keeps on telling himself that the Leicester system is his problem 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:25pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Make the boy go , abeg. He will excel. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:25pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: Vardy is washing up like hypo bleach. He can not last long in the scene. Holding on to Vardy is clutching on straws. Nacho has years to offer and still has room for improvement. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:27pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: I totally didn't know the Villarreal part, no wonder why you love the guy to bits. I only took notice of him at Malaga, I thought he was a good coach and when they lost to Borrusia it was unfortunate, I believe they needed just one goal to qualify no thanks to the away goals rule 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:28pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
forgiveness: The team will certainly excel and win titles but stellar performances is very limited at Atletico Madrid. See how Carrasco washed up there. A far cry from the genius at Monaco. Atletico Madrid is too negative for Chukwueze. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:29pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Dude hasn't lost pace at all. He still has two to four solid years to give and considering he is a cult figure there I think every coach will build around him |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:30pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: I get am before no be property. How many open play goals as Vardy scored this season? How many assists? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:32pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: If you had watched him handle River Plate in his first season there with D'Alessandro, Saviola's friend, you would have marveled. They played some nice football. So far he is doing a good job at West Ham. Started poorly but they are sailing fine. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:33pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
Mickael2: Leicester City is clutching to the past that has faded away. Vardy will never reenact what he did under Ranieri. Time for them to follow the trend like West Ham is doing. |
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