A friend of mine need advice on either of these vehicles w202 c180 and c230 kompressor in terms of fuel consumption reliability, cheap maintainance, and performance (power) help please

ibrahimstata:
A friend of mine need advice on either of these vehicles
w202 c180 and c230 kompressor
in terms of fuel consumption
reliability, cheap maintainance, and performance (power)
help please

Power: The C230 is faster in terms of speed than the C180 since it's equipped with a supercharger (kompressor)

Reliability: Both models are but the C180 is more reliable when considering the aspect of the supercharger on the C230 which can fail due to age.

Maintenance: maintenance is almost same because they are both 4 cylinder engines and share similar mechanical and electrical parts.

Fuel Consumption: They are both economical.

sacramento1212:


Power: The C230 is faster in terms of speed than the C180 since it's equipped with a supercharger (kompressor)

Reliability: Both models are but the C180 is more reliable when considering the aspect of the supercharger on the C230 which can fail due to age.

Maintenance: maintenance is almost same because they are both 4 cylinder engines and share similar mechanical and electrical parts.

Fuel Consumption: They are both economical.

Please stay away from analysis of Benz henceforth! The W202 C180 is nearly maintenance free!! Compared with the W203 C230!! Stop your heresies here!!

ibrahimstata:
A friend of mine need advice on either of these vehicles
w202 c180 and c230 kompressor
in terms of fuel consumption
reliability, cheap maintainance, and performance (power)
help please

The C180 is a smaller engine hence less power and lower consumption, Benz engines when well taken care of are very durable/reliable, a friend that has used two kompressors C200 komressor and C230 komressor said the main problem he had were the alternators which are positioned a bit lower than those in the natural aspirated hence their been prone to getting flooded easily.

CityNGR:


Please stay away from analysis of Benz henceforth! The W202 C180 is nearly maintenance free!! Compared with the W203 C230!! Stop your heresies here!!

Are you alright? Is there any vehicle that is maintenance free? And in my post, where did you see me mention that the C180 is expensive to maintain?

sacramento1212:


Are you alright? Is there any vehicle that is maintenance free? And in my post, where did you see me mention that the C180 is expensive to maintain?

Their maintenance is NOT the same!! Fuel economy they're not similar!! Parts wise they're very different!!

CityNGR:

Their maintenance is NOT the same!! Fuel economy they're not similar!! Parts wise they're very different!!

And what makes it different from the other? You should counter people's post with your own analysis. The C230 here is also a 4 cylinder engine same as the C180. The kompressor in the C230 is what makes the engine more powerful.

The Fuel economy between both cars is actually insignificant

sacramento1212:


And what makes it different from the other? You should counter people's post with your own analysis. The C230 here is also a 4 cylinder engine same as the C180. The kompressor in the C230 is what makes the engine more powerful.

The Fuel economy between both cars is actually insignificant

You should not be comparing a Daimler Benz car with a Daimler Chrysler car. End of discussion!!

CityNGR:

Sir go ahead and compare the prices of shock absorbers BTW the two.. You should not be comparing a Daimler car with a Daimler Chrysler car. End of discussion!!

No, i need you to counter my post analytically and same time answer the question asked same way he itemised them. I am not a shock absorber seller and there was never any question asked about the price of shock absorber.

sacramento1212:


No, i need you to counter my post analytically and same time answer the question asked same way he itemised them. I am not a shock absorber seller and there was never any question asked about the price of shock absorber.

I can and I will.
One maintenance on the w203 far exceeds the W202 in all fronts.
Two the electric gremlins installed by Chrysler on the w203 are endless
Three have you observed that the engine bay of the w203 most often look like a converted righty car even when they're not?
Four the front lower arm in the W202 is far cheaper and more durable than the interlinked arms of the w203
Five have I mentioned that the interior trims of the W203 falls apart like tree leaves in the dry season? While the interior trim of the w202 are near perfection even after decades?
Six have I mentioned SAM issues on the W203? Which is virtually nonexistent in the W202!
Again call your parts seller to enquire about the shock absorbers!!

CityNGR:

I can and I will.
One maintenance on the w203 far exceeds the W202 in all fronts.
Two the electric gremlins installed by Chrysler on the w203 are endless
Three have you observed that the engine bay of the w203 most often look like a converted righty car even when they're not?
Four the front lower arm in the W202 is far cheaper and more durable than the interlinked arms of the w203
Five have I mentioned that the interior trims of the W203 falls apart like tree leaves in the dry season? While the interior trim of the w202 are near perfection even after decades?
Six have I mentioned SAM issues on the W203? Which is virtually nonexistent in the W202!
Again call your parts seller to enquire about the shock absorbers!!

You see why you shouldn't always jump into conclusions or start castigating one unnecessarily. The question asked had nothing to do with a W203 but strictly a W202(C180 or C230)

I am done with you. Have a good evening

sacramento1212:


You see why you shouldn't always jump into conclusions or start castigating one unnecessarily. The question asked had nothing to do with a W203 but strictly a W202(C180 or C230)

I am done with you. Have a good evening

Apologies I thougt the question asked was between the w203 &202. Good night

Lol, this guy.

Slazim:

The C180 is a smaller engine hence less power and lower consumption, Benz engines when well taken care of are very durable/reliable, a friend that has used two kompressors C200 komressor and C230 komressor said the main problem he had were the alternators which are positioned a bit lower than those in the natural aspirated hence their been prone to getting flooded easily.

thanks

Slazim:

The C180 is a smaller engine hence less power and lower consumption, Benz engines when well taken care of are very durable/reliable, a friend that has used two kompressors C200 komressor and C230 komressor said the main problem he had were the alternators which are positioned a bit lower than those in the natural aspirated hence their been prone to getting flooded easily.

thanks bro but if you come across the two which is your pick

ibrahimstata:


thanks bro but if you come across the two which is your pick

Truthfully speaking ,none of them I love power and also prefer naturally aspirated engines.

CityNGR:

I can and I will.
One maintenance on the w203 far exceeds the W202 in all fronts.
Two the electric gremlins installed by Chrysler on the w203 are endless
Three have you observed that the engine bay of the w203 most often look like a converted righty car even when they're not?
Four the front lower arm in the W202 is far cheaper and more durable than the interlinked arms of the w203
Five have I mentioned that the interior trims of the W203 falls apart like tree leaves in the dry season? While the interior trim of the w202 are near perfection even after decades?
Six have I mentioned SAM issues on the W203? Which is virtually nonexistent in the W202!
Again call your parts seller to enquire about the shock absorbers!!

All what you said here doesn't make sense.
1. Generally, maintenance of newer model vehicles should be more expensive than older models. e.g W204 parts are more expensive than w203 parts.
2. From yr 2000 up cars are equipped with more electrical components for safety n comfort.
3.....I've not observed that, how does this make the w203 a bad choice?
4...same as no.1
5...how did you arrived at this conclusion? How many w203s have you seen with this problem?
6. Which of the SAMs are you talking about? The Front, rear or both? The only problem I know with the SAMs is water damage which is common with any electronic/electrical components.Carelessness on the part of car owners or mechanics will cause water damage.
I've owned a w203 for over 5 years now and all you saying is strange to me.

shortgun:

All what you said here doesn't make sense.
1. Generally, maintenance of newer model vehicles should be more expensive than older models. e.g W204 parts are more expensive than w203 parts.
2. From yr 2000 up cars are equipped with more electrical components for safety n comfort.
3.....I've not observed that, how does this make the w203 a bad choice?
4...same as no.1
5...how did you arrived at this conclusion? How many w203s have you seen with this problem?
6. Which of the SAMs are you talking about? The Front, rear or both? The only problem I know with the SAMs is water damage which is common with any electronic/electrical components.Carelessness on the part of car owners or mechanics will cause water damage.
I've owned a w203 for over 5 years now and all you saying is strange to me.

Choice relative to a peculiar option.

Good evening house.
So my c230k 05 is having AC issues.
Bought a new condenser,compressor(automatic),flushed the system and filled gas.
The thing cooled like factory spec for like an hour then it started reducing till it went kaput.
Turned out there was a leakage.we traced it to one point in the hose and we welded it.
Refilled the system with gas again,it cooled for like 20 mins and stopped. this time no leakage.gas is still in the system.
Today went back to the guy,he said it's the valve.he cleaned it,flushed the system again,refilled gas,it started cooling again.
I was happy,paid him.as i entered the highway and sped up,baam,stopped cooling again.
Blowing hot air.touched the metal pipe in the engine,it's warm.
The ac guy keep saying i should convert it to manual compressor bla bla bla(kazeem talk).but i don't want to do that.
Besides i don't think the compressor is bad mechanically.
Please guys,help me out here for i am outta options.
Cc gazzuzz,obekediamondfuto,mammanbawa,weyreypey
Heavenlybang,mosbus,nurey,kingreign,mayor2013 and co
Help please

nwanneni:
Good evening house.
So my c230k 05 is having AC issues.
Bought a new condenser,compressor(automatic),flushed the system and filled gas.
The thing cooled like factory spec for like an hour then it started reducing till it went kaput.
Turned out there was a leakage.we traced it to one point in the hose and we welded it.
Refilled the system with gas again,it cooled for like 20 mins and stopped. this time no leakage.gas is still in the system.
Today went back to the guy,he said it's the valve.he cleaned it,flushed the system again,refilled gas,it started cooling again.
I was happy,paid him.as i entered the highway and sped up,baam,stopped cooling again.
Blowing hot air.touched the metal pipe in the engine,it's warm.
The ac guy keep saying i should convert it to manual compressor bla bla bla(kazeem talk).but i don't want to do that.
Besides i don't think the compressor is bad mechanically.
Please guys,help me out here for i am outta options.
Cc gazzuzz,obekediamondfuto,mammanbawa,weyreypey
Heavenlybang,mosbus,nurey,kingreign,mayor2013 and co
Help please

Don't fight nature. Papa God DEMANDS that you abandon all efforts to repair your car's air condition, so as to enjoy the fresh air of Lagos traffic without interruption. Furthermore, note also that the boys who smash car windows in Lagos traffic will NOT be able to break your window if it is already open.

Just have an obsolete non-working phone ready to hand over, along with generous amounts of cash tithes, when the Go-Slow Boys visit you whilst your car is trapped in traffic gridlock, and with that, the world will turn.

Got breast Nigeria.

nwanneni:
Good evening house.
So my c230k 05 is having AC issues.
Bought a new condenser,compressor(automatic),flushed the system and filled gas.
The thing cooled like factory spec for like an hour then it started reducing till it went kaput.
Turned out there was a leakage.we traced it to one point in the hose and we welded it.
Refilled the system with gas again,it cooled for like 20 mins and stopped. this time no leakage.gas is still in the system.
Today went back to the guy,he said it's the valve.he cleaned it,flushed the system again,refilled gas,it started cooling again.
I was happy,paid him.as i entered the highway and sped up,baam,stopped cooling again.
Blowing hot air.touched the metal pipe in the engine,it's warm.
The ac guy keep saying i should convert it to manual compressor bla bla bla(kazeem talk).but i don't want to do that.
Besides i don't think the compressor is bad mechanically.
Please guys,help me out here and co
Help please

for the hot pipe the guy must have weld that side smaller than stock diameter you may need to look into that 1st.

your diagnosis don pass online assistance you need the right techy with the right tools at the right place for the right price to get the right fix for the right temperature

nwanneni:
Good evening house.
So my c230k 05 is having AC issues.
Bought a new condenser,compressor(automatic),flushed the system and filled gas.
The thing cooled like factory spec for like an hour then it started reducing till it went kaput.
Turned out there was a leakage.we traced it to one point in the hose and we welded it.
Refilled the system with gas again,it cooled for like 20 mins and stopped. this time no leakage.gas is still in the system.
Today went back to the guy,he said it's the valve.he cleaned it,flushed the system again,refilled gas,it started cooling again.
I was happy,paid him.as i entered the highway and sped up,baam,stopped cooling again.
Blowing hot air.touched the metal pipe in the engine,it's warm.
The ac guy keep saying i should convert it to manual compressor bla bla bla(kazeem talk).but i don't want to do that.
Besides i don't think the compressor is bad mechanically.
Please guys,help me out here for i am outta options.
Cc gazzuzz,obekediamondfuto,mammanbawa,weyreypey
Heavenlybang,mosbus,nurey,kingreign,mayor2013 and co
Help please

Find Mosbus. Replace the offending pipe. Flush and vacuum the system!! More importantly find Mosbus!!

CityNGR:

Find Mosbus. Replace the offending pipe. Flush and vacuum the system!! More importantly find Mosbus!!

Mosbus dey Lagos abi Ibadan. Diesel Beast dey PH.

HeavenlyBang:


Mosbus dey Lagos abi Ibadan. Diesel Beast dey PH.

He should connect Benin City. Those guys are amazing

Hey guys good day, from what I have read here it seem the most economical Benz engine with less maintenance is the W202, what's the current price range for toks and Nigerian registered for Benz C200 2000/2001 model? First car and I have a limited budget.

DonnyE:
Hey guys good day, from what I have read here it seem the most economical Benz engine with less maintenance is the W202, what's the current price range for toks and Nigerian registered for Benz C200 2000/2001 model? First car and I have a limited budget.

If w202, then it should be 1999/2000. From 2001 starts the w203.

A sound toks should be between #1.2 to #1.5 depending on neatness. I won't advice a Nigerian used one except you are very sure of the mechanical and electrical condition of the said vehicle.

DonnyE:
Hey guys good day, from what I have read here it seem the most economical Benz engine with less maintenance is the W202, what's the current price range for toks and Nigerian registered for Benz C200 2000/2001 model? First car and I have a limited budget.

If you have a limited, concrete budget, you shouldn't be buying a Mercedes.

sacramento1212:


If w202, then it should be 1999/2000. From 2001 starts the w203.

A sound toks should be between #1.2 to #1.5 depending on neatness. I won't advice a Nigerian used one except you are very sure of the mechanical and electrical condition of the said vehicle.

Thanks for your quick response, the price above is it for the W202 or W203?

HeavenlyBang:


If you have a limited, concrete budget, you shouldn't be buying a Mercedes.

True, but my love for it is just too much as well as the security of the car which is hard to find in Toyota.i don't mind buying either the c180 or c300 W203, price range please for toks and registered, thanks.

DonnyE:

Thanks for your quick response, the price above is it for the W202 or W203?

W202

sacramento1212:


W202

Oohk what about that of c180/c200 2002 model? Thanks