Carlyboi:
Guy you keep claiming and rambling about Me write epistle while you have been writing journals since the moment you wanted to sound smart by engaging or let me even say attacking me on here!whats your problem? the fact that you make use of paragraghs doesnt give your words of brevity or made your concise or apt ...and who is resorting to insults? you cant engage me intellectually without kissing the dust and you might also have to check the meaning of incoherence since you might have issues with vocabularies!from the get go i never said yahoo is legal or moral i only said its not in the same class or maybe degree with armed robbery or ritual killing! it is simply fraud!it is a soft crime and your efforts to sound like frederich nietstsze or karl marx,or abraham lincoln wont change that a soft crime is a soft crime QED!let that sink into your thick skull! then you made some noise and babbled about your so called invented,grandiose and imaginary accomplishments in your life which you feel its so big that no one in your entire lineage can even achieve....and the funny thing is you dont know me!do you see how illogical,infantile,myopic and vain you sound and you have been opening your Mouth too criticize yahooboys while bragging about some meaningless things like where you have been to or who you have met which nobody in the world cares about least of them Me!or maybe you have been to hell and that roasted your brain!Do you know how see how battered your self esteem his that you have to talk bout some accolades story Noone asked you it shows you dont feel good bout yourself! I am sorry this is what your failed system as done to a young soul like You........lol! i am not an inferior person like you greatness is in my Dna!so i whatever you have done,you are doing is just a drop in the ocean of my greatness ...and mind you unlike you i dont compare myself with no one! I am me,i am different and i am not shallow minded like you and your ilks...intellectually,spiritually and mentally we are Not on the same Pedestal Guy!

Carlyboi:
Save yourself the stress pls!i aint interested i have other important things to do!i dont have time for childish,shallow and vain banters i am above that sweetheart....on another i just realized you are a girlif i had known you wont have gotten that number of replies from me and i would have gone easy on you!smilesy...if you really wanna engage me then maybe offfline with something productive or maybe you wanna go on a date!smiles!we can have a few drinks!then i had consider if its on this same old...then its a No babe!i am done here!

TAO11:


As expected you have again put forward loads of "logical" fallacies.


You claimed that my arguments amount to attacking you ... smiles. This is a straw man argument. Let me educate you in some analytic logic session. Your "argument" is not one and the same thing as you. The fact that I deconstructed your "arguments" is not one and the same thing as attacking you. To attack you is to come for you (with insults and curses, etc. like you've done) instead of exposing the fallacy and pettiness of your argument (if at all it can be called an argument) which is the real issue. You get it now? ... good boy.


You also appear to be intimidated, subdued, and ashamed by the fact that I exposed your "epistle" as uncoordinated and your "argument" as incoherent. You then quickly sought to veil the shame by pretending that you are learning the word "incoherence" for the very first time. Well to help you, "incoherence" is the quality of being illogical, inconsistent, or unintelligible. And that word captures precisely your "arguments". You noted that you also condemn "yahoo" robbery as criminal, but you hinted in the same breath that you may take up the criminal act soon (among other incoherent claims). How more incoherent do you have to be before you realize it.


Did you resort to insults?

You appear here to be denying that you resorted to insults, hence I will provide you with very few instances of insults and cursing from you. This is not to say you're dealing with amnesia or that you're a mythomaniac, I only feel the need to help you realize how low you were:

you asked: "who raised you??".
you made a "point" mentioning my "entire lineage".

I am not offended by these and others, no that's no my point, I am only pointing out that you lied when you denied insulting.


Regarding whether or not I can engage you intellectually!

You noted that I can't engage you intellectually. This is a red herring fallacy. You intended to demonstrate that I can't engage you in an argument. It is a fallacy to state what you seek to prove, as basis for the proof itself. There is no point saying I can't engage you (and seeking to use that as a basis for showing that I can't engage you), all you needed to do was simply demonstrate that I can't engage you. Here, you not only committed a red herring fallacy you also committed a "logical" fallacy known in argumentation as circular reasoning.


Now to the crux!

You noted that "yahoo" [sic] is just "a soft crime" [sic] and "simply fraud". To stop at just these is to trivialize the gravity of this crime, and to limit the nature of this crime to the primary environment in which it's been perpetrated, as well as the broadest category it belongs, respectively; because it is been perpetrated via the internet etc., and it is categorized as fraud because fraud is any criminal act intended to use deception or thievery to influence financial or any non-financial personal gain.


You appear to be dead-scared about knowing (or hearing anyone talk) about the specific nature of this crime, perhaps because you're contemplating engaging in the vice in the nearest time as you've hinted somewhere. Regardless of how scared you are about hearing or knowing about the specific nature of this crime; or how hard you trick your mind into justifying it; it doesn't change the fact that the crime leaves the same scar on the victim just as armed robbery does.

An armed will only bear further burden of the Law for possessing arms in the first places, and even further burden if they directly cause physical injury or directly cause the death of their victim.

But will an armed robber bear the minimum burden of robbing others of their wealth? Yes. Will a "yahoo" robber also bear the same minimum burden of robbing others of their wealth? The answer any sane person will give is also Yes!

So, the thin line which I talked about at the outset is the means through which this evil (the evil of robbing or stealing) is being perpetrated. One involves possessing arms (e.g. razor, knife, cutlass, gun, or even WMD) in order to pressure, coerce, force, or sometimes injure/kill "non-cooperating" victims; while the other involves hiding behind the internet etc. to perpetrate the same robbery and stealing crime.

And you don't have to feel intimidated if you really think I sound like those philosophers and that statesman (I never mentioned being a Marx etc. in the first place, you must have felt something to have been compelled into thinking I sounded like them) all you need do is to to pick up your conscience and be wise like them. Also very important is the fact that you need to stop convincing your self that you can you can never make it legally, otherwise no one can help you out of your dungeon of psychological derailment, not even a Karl Marx can.


My statement about the milestones I have achieved even while in my 20s is not intended to crush your ego or to even further lower your low self esteem, no that's not the plan, and I apologize if you've gotten the wrong impression that that's what I did to you. My intention is actually to make you realize that contrary to what you think, not everyone who speaks up against "yahoo" robbery is poor, sad, and frustrated. Some of us just choose not to be unbothered by the vice and how naive minds like you think it's quite okay. I bet you won't tell your child (assuming you have one) that: my child, when you grow up, I want you to engage in robbing and stealing money from people under false pretense and while they're unaware if you have any sense or dignity and responsibility.


Do you struggle with inferiority complex?

Yes! and I demonstrated that with evidence, where you concluded (on the basis of just a little conversation with me) that I am some self-made boss ... hahaha. I had to inform you that I am not your boss. But you pretended in your next reply as if that never happened.i can see that you desperately crave for attention like your life depends on it...also you seem to have so much time on your hands but unfortunately i dont,i am anti social and i do online tirade!so imma keep this as short as possible...one i am glad i made you use your dictionary while composing your robust response...lol!i can see you are trying to score some cheap points,well,but you keep firing blanks My opinion is my opinion so even if you are doing a million responses it wont change,also i told you earlier that you have your priorities misplaced...save your ramblings and education or whatever you may call it fot your family and friends its unsolicited here!and no one cares bout it....if i tell you i compare myself with no one it means whatever imaginary accomplishment you have doesnt bother me!maybe its a big deal to the unexposed and naive people around you but for me i am not interested so save your breath!i'm me,i run my race,i make my own destiny and i love my life...so why would should i be interested in some bollocks you think you have going on if that is your only means of validation to having a better life then or its the zenith you think you can reach how is that my business do you see how flawed and dumb that assertion is whay have you achieved?who have you met that makes you think!someone you dont know jack bout has not or cant attain well!it might be due to your enviroment or your upbringing!you suffr from low self esteem and inferiority complex i guess when you ran out of ideas or things to say you hastily chippedd that in to give you some sense of pride lol!i typed oga cos i didnt realise you are a girl until my last reply in that context i could have used baba,guy,ogbeni,bro whatever comes to mind it doesnt carry any sense of respect it just a derisive manner of addressing you at that point lol!and my boss!!!really!who?You?did you dream bout it cos that aint a sweet dre or a beautiful nightmare!It can never happen so cut short your alice in the wonderland Trip!and lastly no one can intimidate me....i have risen above such Mundane things!so in your myopic mind you actually think you can intimidate someone like me thats so clownish sweetheart!with what Really lol??you are so amusing really are you trying to be the next amy schumer or rebel wilson cos i am having a good laugh!hahahahahaaha!You wish!lastly i said yahoo is immoral and also bout it bin a soft crime or not google is your friend even outside this enviroment!cyber fraud and armed robbery especially wont attract the same sentence have you even wondered that sometimes people become victims of fraud by their own doing you wonder why

You announced in your last line that you "dont compare myself with no one" but you contradicted yourself almost immediately when you said: "... intellectually,spiritually and mentally we are Not on the same Pedestal" among other comparison that litters your replies. Now, that again is incoherence.

Carlyboi:
nl

TAO11:


smiles ...

where in the world do you reside to want to engage me offline. hello, wake up ... this is an online exchange and not some intra +234 etc. sms exchange.

did you just say you wan't to take me on a date? where? how? ... have you eaten today? and I really mean the question in the most literal sense ... have you eaten?

I may help you start earning a living responsibly, and get you out of the yahoo "robbery" which you noted you're already contemplating due to your extreme penury, but on one condition.

Only on the condition that you become bold and man enough to confess publicly on this platform that robbery is robbery, and stealing is stealing without buts or ifs.

bye dear!

TAO11:


what do you mean by "nl"? please be more explicit.

moreover, don't expect me to search for your reply wherever you hid it. If you're bold enough to sustain an argument, then quote me just as normally as you've been doing before now, and see me reply you.

TAO11:


As expected you have again put forward loads of "logical" fallacies.


You claimed that my arguments amount to attacking you ... smiles. This is a straw man argument. Let me educate you in some analytic logic session. Your "argument" is not one and the same thing as you. The fact that I deconstructed your "arguments" is not one and the same thing as attacking you. To attack you is to come for you (with insults and curses, etc. like you've done) instead of exposing the fallacy and pettiness of your argument (if at all it can be called an argument) which is the real issue. You get it now? ... good boy.


You also appear to be intimidated, subdued, and ashamed by the fact that I exposed your "epistle" as uncoordinated and your "argument" as incoherent. You then quickly sought to veil the shame by pretending that you are learning the word "incoherence" for the very first time. Well to help you, "incoherence" is the quality of being illogical, inconsistent, or unintelligible. And that word captures precisely your "arguments". You noted that you also condemn "yahoo" robbery as criminal, but you hinted in the same breath that you may take up the criminal act soon (among other incoherent claims). How more incoherent do you have to be before you realize it.


Did you resort to insults?

You appear here to be denying that you resorted to insults, hence I will provide you with very few instances of insults and cursing from you. This is not to say you're dealing with amnesia or that you're a mythomaniac, I only feel the need to help you realize how low you were:

you asked: "who raised you??".
you made a "point" mentioning my "entire lineage".

I am not offended by these and others, no that's no my point, I am only pointing out that you lied when you denied insulting.


Regarding whether or not I can engage you intellectually!

You noted that I can't engage you intellectually. This is a red herring fallacy. You intended to demonstrate that I can't engage you in an argument. It is a fallacy to state what you seek to prove, as basis for the proof itself. There is no point saying I can't engage you (and seeking to use that as a basis for showing that I can't engage you), all you needed to do was simply demonstrate that I can't engage you. Here, you not only committed a red herring fallacy you also committed a "logical" fallacy known in argumentation as circular reasoning.


Now to the crux!

You noted that "yahoo" [sic] is just "a soft crime" [sic] and "simply fraud". To stop at just these is to trivialize the gravity of this crime, and to limit the nature of this crime to the primary environment in which it's been perpetrated, as well as the broadest category it belongs, respectively; because it is been perpetrated via the internet etc., and it is categorized as fraud because fraud is any criminal act intended to use deception or thievery to influence financial or any non-financial personal gain.


You appear to be dead-scared about knowing (or hearing anyone talk) about the specific nature of this crime, perhaps because you're contemplating engaging in the vice in the nearest time as you've hinted somewhere. Regardless of how scared you are about hearing or knowing about the specific nature of this crime; or how hard you trick your mind into justifying it; it doesn't change the fact that the crime leaves the same scar on the victim just as armed robbery does.

An armed robber will only bear further burden of the Law for possessing arms in the first places, and even further burden if they directly cause physical injury or directly cause the death of their victim.

But will an armed robber bear the minimum burden of robbing others of their wealth? Yes. Will a "yahoo" robber also bear the same minimum burden of robbing others of their wealth? The answer any sane person will give is also Yes!

So, the thin line which I talked about at the outset is the means through which this evil (the evil of robbing or stealing) is being perpetrated. One involves possessing arms (e.g. razor, knife, cutlass, gun, or even WMD) in order to pressure, coerce, force, or sometimes injure/kill "non-cooperating" victims; while the other involves hiding behind the internet etc. to perpetrate the same robbery and stealing crime.

And you don't have to feel intimidated if you really think I sound like those philosophers and that statesman (I never mentioned being a Marx etc. in the first place, you must have felt something to have been compelled into thinking I sounded like them) all you need do is to to pick up your conscience and be wise like them. Also very important is the fact that you need to stop convincing your self that you can you can never make it legally, otherwise no one can help you out of your dungeon of psychological derailment, not even a Karl Marx can.


My statement about the milestones I have achieved even while in my 20s is not intended to crush your ego or to even further lower your low self esteem, no that's not the plan, and I apologize if you've gotten the wrong impression that that's what I did to you. My intention is actually to make you realize that contrary to what you think, not everyone who speaks up against "yahoo" robbery is poor, sad, and frustrated. Some of us just choose not to be unbothered by the vice and how naive minds like you think it's quite okay. I bet you won't tell your child (assuming you have one) that: my child, when you grow up, I want you to engage in robbing and stealing money from people under false pretense and while they're unaware if you have any sense or dignity and responsibility.


Do you struggle with inferiority complex?

Yes! and I demonstrated that with evidence, where you concluded (on the basis of just a little conversation with me) that I am some self-made boss ... hahaha. I had to inform you that I am not your boss. But you pretended in your next reply as if that never happened.
if i were to become a yahoo boy and i am planning to become a yahoo boy means the same thing to you in your warped reasoning right?second saying yahoo is not the same thing with ritual killing,armed robbery or kidnapping how on earth does that translate to bin a yahoo boy or saying its not not a criminal act!are you dyslexic or something cos you keep harping bout incoherence on my part but you are the one suffering from it!from the get go...this was the position i asserted and i have not deviated from it...and why would i encourage anyone to go into yahoo but also i wont necessarily dissuade anyone i am indiferrent...especially when an adult is the subject here he has the right to choose and he has grown enough to know whats right from wrong!your life is yours i can teach you or tell you how to run it especially when such counsel is unsocilited!then you ask the silly question bout if i have a kid wud i encourage him or indulge him bla bla bla!is that supposed to be a question when i told you its immoral and its a crime....it is only a failed parent that would encourage his child to go into such cos innocent people are the victims....i dont have a dead conscience if thats what you were aiming for!but the reality is if there are no changes parents wud become helpless as the years roll by cos the govt dont care bouts us....and thats the reality things are get worse from bad.....i am a realist the population of this country alone is a menace and the govt dont have a clue as regards the utilisation of the human rezourcess we have been blessed with or human capital development...create jobs and enabling business enviroment is one of the responsibilities of the government..instead of enaging me on here you should active engage your government administrators if you truly care or you are worried bout the trend lets see an increasing productivity among our youths and their active engagement and watch cyber fraud die a natural death or reduced to the barest minimum its time tp start uprooting the evil and not just bout cutting down the tall trees!

You announced in your last line that you "dont compare myself with no one" but you contradicted yourself almost immediately when you said: "... intellectually,spiritually and mentally we are Not on the same Pedestal" among other comparison that litters your replies. Now, that again is incoherence.

Carlyboi:
i.am sorry i aint got the time for that!hahahaha!You sound pained tho!who did this to You?and why do you need this attention that much have you an IQ debate with someone recently!i dont that time on my hands cos i am very lazy when it comes to typing i cant go throughh the stress of typing replies to you all the time...doand i am not interested its almost 2019 i cant be engaging in meaningless arguments at this hour!thanks

Carlyboi:
i was trying to be nice,civil and mild with you considering you are a girl but since you prefer the savage gung ho!style there you go!where do i reside?is you blind cos i know you must have checked my profile at least once since you have been craving this attention but if you wanna feign ignorance i live in Nigeria!and where do you live Miss!Mars or jupiter,Europe or North America,Abuja,lagos,Port harcourt,or where really lol! is that what is bursting your brain thats what is freaking you..is that one of the places you think i can never go to and is that where you derive your joy lol!anyway i am not so surprised you already stated you are in your 20s it takes some 40 years of existence before the mature psychologically and intellectually...i wont tell you the city i reside in Nigeria but since you are really curious check my profile...i have mentioned on a number of occaaions on my post so unless you dont live on planet Earth or you live in any of those places i mentioned shame on you cos it does not make you shit!so next time think before you ask stupid questions!also you said have i eaten today of coz not i have not had food in the since the month of November but it still dont matter i still have enough to feed you for days and buy you whatever you wanna drink are you satisfied now Missy lol!so dont worry bout me worry bout yourself and you also made an erroneous statement....a yahoo boy live in penury yahoo and penury are two words that dont go together so its gonna be better you stick to a narrative so you can just ask yourself and take a stand instead of causing confusing yourself!lol!i have never lived in penury maybe that has always been your situation and your got a little break but not mine!lol!so i am sorry if that is your situation but i am not sorry too lol!i am blesssed and i am comfortable i live good so,sorry to disappoint you i dont live in penury so save your money little or big for people that needs it...that little girl or boy in your family..that man...your neighbour do it for him...take your money to the hospital..and pay peoples medical bills those people begging for alms on the street it can go a longway or betterstill do some charity lord knows i do that every now and then take items and donate cash the kids would be so happy to see you,doing such things give me joy...so if you are indeed rich channel your resources to where it is need captain America oh sorry wonder woman lol!yahoo is not the in the same degree of crime as armed robbery and kidnapping nor is it the same thing as killing people for money rituals which is murder it is a soft crime,if you are half as smart as you are claiming you would get it!Rape and murder are both criminal acts but all over the world does rape and murder attract the same punishment!and lastly i knew you were seeking attention cos you would have noticed that part of going on a date was juzt on a lighter note and if i say engage me in something productive is it not to tell you i am no more interested in this meaningless tirade!the back and forth on here!i am simply done with this post....and also dont quote me anymore you have a contrary opinion put it up its none of my business...dont sell me your bullshit i aint buying keep whatever opinion you have got to yourself or advice the naive and the intellectually deficient people around you i dont care!So from now on keep it moving!you would only hear unsavoury things from me from here on!so keep it moving darling!

Carlyboi:
nl. i can see that you desperately crave for attention like your life depends on it...also you seem to have so much time on your hands but unfortunately i dont,i am anti social and i do online tirade!so imma keep this as short as possible...one i am glad i made you use your dictionary while composing your robust response...lol!i can see you are trying to score some cheap points,well,but you keep firing blanks My opinion is my opinion so even if you are doing a million responses it wont change,also i told you earlier that you have your priorities misplaced...save your ramblings and education or whatever you may call it fot your family and friends its unsolicited here!and no one cares bout it....if i tell you i compare myself with no one it means whatever imaginary accomplishment you have doesnt bother me!maybe its a big deal to the unexposed and naive people around you but for me i am not interested so save your breath!i'm me,i run my race,i make my own destiny and i love my life...so why would should i be interested in some bollocks you think you have going on if that is your only means of validation to having a better life then or its the zenith you think you can reach how is that my business do you see how flawed and dumb that assertion is whay have you achieved?who have you met that makes you think!someone you dont know jack bout has not or cant attain well!it might be due to your enviroment or your upbringing!you suffr from low self esteem and inferiority complex i guess when you ran out of ideas or things to say you hastily chippedd that in to give you some sense of pride lol!i typed oga cos i didnt realise you are a girl until my last reply in that context i could have used baba,guy,ogbeni,bro whatever comes to mind it doesnt carry any sense of respect it just a derisive manner of addressing you at that point lol!and my boss!!!really!who?You?did you dream bout it cos that aint a sweet dre or a beautiful nightmare!It can never happen so cut short your alice in the wonderland Trip!and lastly no one can intimidate me....i have risen above such Mundane things!so in your myopic mind you actually think you can intimidate someone like me thats so clownish sweetheart!with what Really lol??you are so amusing really are you trying to be the next amy schumer or rebel wilson cos i am having a good laugh!hahahahahaaha!You wish!lastly i said yahoo is immoral and also bout it bin a soft crime or not google is your friend even outside this enviroment!cyber fraud and armed robbery especially wont attract the same sentence have you even wondered that sometimes people become victims of fraud by their own doing you wonder why

Carlyboi:
if i were to become a yahoo boy and i am planning to become a yahoo boy means the same thing to you in your warped reasoning right?second saying yahoo is not the same thing with ritual killing,armed robbery or kidnapping how on earth does that translate to bin a yahoo boy or saying its not not a criminal act!are you dyslexic or something cos you keep harping bout incoherence on my part but you are the one suffering from it!from the get go...this was the position i asserted and i have not deviated from it...and why would i encourage anyone to go into yahoo but also i wont necessarily dissuade anyone i am indiferrent...especially when an adult is the subject here he has the right to choose and he has grown enough to know whats right from wrong!your life is yours i can teach you or tell you how to run it especially when such counsel is unsocilited!then you ask the silly question bout if i have a kid wud i encourage him or indulge him bla bla bla!is that supposed to be a question when i told you its immoral and its a crime....it is only a failed parent that would encourage his child to go into such cos innocent people are the victims....i dont have a dead conscience if thats what you were aiming for!but the reality is if there are no changes parents wud become helpless as the years roll by cos the govt dont care bouts us....and thats the reality things are get worse from bad.....i am a realist the population of this country alone is a menace and the govt dont have a clue as regards the utilisation of the human rezourcess we have been blessed with or human capital development...create jobs and enabling business enviroment is one of the responsibilities of the government..instead of enaging me on here you should active engage your government administrators if you truly care or you are worried bout the trend lets see an increasing productivity among our youths and their active engagement and watch cyber fraud die a natural death or reduced to the barest minimum its time tp start uprooting the evil and not just bout cutting down the tall trees!

CodeTemplar:

[b]Oga read well and understand things b4 jumping into wrong conclusions.
[/b]regarding your first sentence I bold, I never said knowledge is all about appointment or jobs. I said if I won't be given a fair chance to used what I am trying to learn why try to learn of on the first place?


I never also asked of a easy way in life but a fair way. Let me give you an example.
If as a mechatronics or petroleum engineering undergraduate targeting the oil sector to impart my knowledge I am know how NNPC can be and realize how the children of the rich are mostly employed in NNPC like we witnessed 3 years ago, I may not take my mechatronics or petroleum studies serious because of a humble background. I already know that the children of the rich who aren't ready to improve the system in NNPC are getting the opportunities ahead of me and I will very likely be considered for N-POWER, so I might as well avoid knowing all the complex course work that will aid NNPC and just study hard enough to be a physics teacher in a govt school.

TAO11:


You wrote:

“if i were to become a yahoo boy and i am planning to become a yahoo boy means the same thing to you in your warped reasoning right?”

Lol … the following are actually my specific words:

“… You hinted that you may …” as well as “… you’re contemplating …”

These key words “may” and “contemplating” are actually in no way suggestive of planning, rather they are suggestive of indecision … i.e. should I or should I not?

Who was your English language teacher? I think you should sue them.

In fact, I never mentioned that you’ve already begun “yahoo" robbery, neither did I mention that you’re planning to, instead I emphasized your contemplation of it.


You wrote: “and why would i encourage anyone to go into yahoo but also i wont necessarily dissuade anyone i am indiferrent...especially when an adult is the subject here he has the right to choose and he has grown enough to know whats right from wrong!your life is yours i can teach you or tell you how to run it especially when such counsel is unsocilited!”

No one is saying you should coerce or literally force people away from doing something (against their will). All I am saying is that If you get an opportunity (just like you do here on NL now) to speak against crimes (including “yahoo” robbery, which you noted that you have agreed is crime); will you?

But unfortunately, your obvious answer is No! given your unrelenting fight against me for demonstrating that it simply boils down to robbery.


You wrote: “then you ask the silly question bout if i have a kid wud i encourage him or indulge him bla bla bla!is that supposed to be a question when i told you its immoral and its a crime....it is only a failed parent that would encourage his child to go into such cos innocent people are the victims....i dont have a dead conscience if thats what you were aiming for!”

Well I agree with you it’s only with a “failed” reasoning that a person would condemn an act as criminal on one hand, and yet on the other hand entertain the idea that they may engage in it but won’t rub it on the faces of others.

It’s only with a “failed” reasoning that a person would condemn an act as criminal on one hand, and yet on the other hand attack whoever demonstrates how the act simply boils down to robbery.


You wrote: “but the reality is if there are no changes parents wud become helpless as the years roll by cos the govt dont care bouts us....and thats the reality things are get worse from bad.....”

That is a conditional statement, but we can't live our present reality pretending that the unfortunate hypothetical scenario depicted by your conditional statement is here.

Yes, I agree that every robber have a “story”. But that’s no excuse to become one. We cant just say well, it’s okay to be a robber because they have “suffered”. You would’nt give such advice to your child saying: my child you can become a robber when you grow up, but only as last resort

The mind of any sane person repels such idea.


You wrote: “instead of enaging me on here you should active engage your government administrators if you truly care or you are worried bout the trend”

Short reply: Do not pretend to know what I do and what I don’t do. You don’t know what my activities are. You know next to nothing about me, so leave it there.


You “encourage” me to engage the government so that “yahoo” robbery can die naturally in our society, yet you are sabotaging such “encouragement” here on NL by being dead-scared to speak up squarely against “yahoo” robbery without buts or ifs.

TAO11:


red-herring! red-herring!! red-herring!!!

if needing attention means replying (in your warped reasoning), then you just shot your self by showing (with your weird logic) that you desperately need attention.

You could have saved yourself this embarrassment by not replying me back, but once you do it's almost like you're stuck. Now you're pleading for mercy using excuses like "I am very lazy", "I don't have time on my hands", "I am not interested", this argument is "meaningless" etc.

wow! you're actually very funny.

TAO11:



If you get the idea that I’m “desperately craving for attention” just because I reply you, then you really need to have a re-think because you’ve simply been replying me (which I’m not complaining about). I think you lack content now, or just very confused and frustrated.


Where do you get the idea that I have lots of time from? If you get that idea from just the fact that I’ve been replying you, then you really need to realize that I could come on you with that very thing; i.e. I could simply say you seem to have lots of time because you’ve equally been replying me. It is okay if you want to run away, but you don’t come making excuses. Loosers do that. Somethings are best not said.


The following is what a typical narcissist will definitely say to feel good after an obviously bad day, hence I am not surprised:

“i am glad i made you use your dictionary while composing your robust response...lol!”

But it is important that I highlight to you that that doesn’t constitute any counter-argument against any of my arguments, in case you think otherwise. It’s simply a red-herring and I will follow this with highlighting other red herrings you’ve put forward.


You wrote: “i can see you are trying to score some cheap points,well,but you keep firing blanks”

This is another red herring. All you needed to do was simply demonstrate (and not merely claim) the “blanks”.


You wrote: “My opinion is my opinion so even if you are doing a million responses it wont change”

I see now that you’ve toned down. Now it’s suddenly become an opinion (i.e. a view that is not necessarily based on fact). That’s what an opinion is in case you mistakenly used the wrong word.


Whether you like it or not; you believe it or you don’t; you cry or you smile; the thin line between armed robbery and “yahoo” robbery is that one carries arms while stealing from and robbing others; and the other hides behind the internet etc. while doing the same thing (i.e. stealing from and robbing other).

Stealing is Stealing! Robbery is Robbery!


You wrote: “also i told you earlier that you have your priorities misplaced...save your ramblings and education or whatever you may call it fot your family and friends its unsolicited here!and no one cares bout it”


Another red-herring. A typical narcissist is who you obviously are. Well, the world doesn’t revolve around you in case you don’t realize. This is the internet and some innocent and unsuspecting person somewhere sometime will see how your argument have been demolished and will be saved from ingesting your crap.


You wrote: “if i tell you i compare myself with no one it means whatever imaginary accomplishment you have doesnt bother me!maybe its a big deal to the unexposed and naive people around you but for me i am not interested so save your breath!i'm me,i run my race,i make my own destiny and i love my life”

Well, until you provide another context and clarification to your statement “I dont compare myself with no one”, it remains contradictory to another statement of yours like “whatever you have done,you are doing is just a drop in the ocean of my greatness”; and a statement like "... intellectually,spiritually and mentally we are Not on the same Pedestal".

So, it’s actually too late for you to twist, spin, and re-read what you already wrote in black and white.


Regarding your statement:

“so why would should i be interested in some bollocks you think you have going on if that is your only means of validation to having a better life then or its the zenith you think you can reach how is that my business do you see how flawed and dumb that assertion is”; as well your statement:
“it might be due to your enviroment or your upbringing!you suffr from low self esteem and inferiority complex i guess when you ran out of ideas or things to say you hastily chippedd that in to give you some sense of pride lol!”

I already mentioned why I adduced some of my milestones. I noted that it was meant to assure you that “not everyone who speaks up against "yahoo" robbery is poor, sad, and frustrated”, that “some of us just choose not to be unbothered by the vice and how naive minds like you think it's quite okay”

Also, it was meant to serve as an assurance of hope for you that to get out of penury, you don’t have to resort to robbery which you hinted you may be starting soon.

So, it is not my fault that you couldn’t (or chose to be unable to) comprehend that, but instead chose to understand my statement there as bragging.


You asked: “whay have you achieved?” “who have you met that makes you think!someone you dont know jack bout has not or cant attain well!”

Well, I choose not to give you specific answers lest you become even more frustrated or you again tag me as bragging while forgetting that you asked the question.


You wrote: “i typed oga cos i didnt realise you are a girl until my last reply in that context i could have used baba,guy,ogbeni,bro whatever comes to mind it doesnt carry any sense of respect it just a derisive manner of addressing you at that point lol!”

The crux here is not about whether I am a man or a woman. Rather, it is about your regarding me as “selfmade” (the precise word you used) just after barely four exhanges; then I argued that it could only have been inferiority complex that made you view me in such a high manner knowing next to nothing about me (whether I’m rich or poor). That is really the argument you were expected to deal with, and not whether I am a man or a woman. Please stop running away from the issues.


You wrote: “no one can intimidate me”

Lol … why does that sound to me like what an intimidated person will normally say?

You continued “....i have risen above such Mundane things!so in your myopic mind you actually think you can intimidate someone like me thats so clownish sweetheart!with what Really lol??”

Aside the vibe that I get from your denial of being intimidated, if you care to pay attention, you will realize I didn’t not claim to have intimidated you (or anything to that effect), instead I noted that you felt intimidated (and elsewhere I used appeared intimidated), and the reason I gave was that you claimed for me heights of the like of Karl Marx etal. Which I didn’t claim for myself. So, you actively inflicted intimidation on yourself, I didn’t.


You wrote: "lastly i said yahoo is immoral and also bout it bin a soft crime or not google is your friend even outside this enviroment!cyber fraud and armed robbery especially wont attract the same sentence have you even wondered that sometimes people become victims of fraud by their own doing you wonder why”

It all reads gibberish here though, but I think the point you’re making is that “yahoo” [sic] is soft crime and fraud, etc. which you already said and which I agreed.

But I noted that to limit it to “just these is to trivialize the gravity of this crime, and to limit the nature of this crime to the primary environment in which it's been perpetrated, as well as the broadest category it belongs, respectively; because it is been perpetrated via the internet etc., and it is categorized as fraud because fraud is any criminal act intended to use deception or thievery to influence financial or any non-financial personal gain”.

I then added that it is robbery because it leaves the victim the same way as any other form of robbery will have left the victim.
Stealing is stealing! Robbery is robbery! Regardless of what you hide behind while perpetrating it (mask or internet) and regardless of whether you use coercion, etc. or false pretence, thievery etc.


You really need to learn to address my counter-arguments and not just simply repeat your already addressed arguments without touching any of the points I have raised.

In summary,

You have put forward a load of red-herring and strawman arguments, while refusing to say a word about my points like:

On attacking you
On the meaning of incoherence
On insult which you tried to deny
On your circular argument about intellectually engaging you.

Your silence on these points is deafening, while you littered the actual responses you gave with logical fallacies.

Carlyboi:
You said while I am perpetrating my yahoo robbery....but you said you never stated that I'm one or planning to do it I'm just merely contemplating,so is there a difference in what I accused you of and what you just typed up there....you only jumped into needless conclusion and erroneous assumption,maybe it's a comprehension problem for you..cos you keep twisting my words for whatever reasons best known to you!so I guess you should be the one asking for a refund of your fees from your English teacher lol!Also the fact that I said yahoo is not the same as armed robbery does not mean I dont condemn it...or I'm encouraging ppl to go into it....it still doesn't change the fact it's not the same thing is there crime worse than murder cos life is definitely sacred so wont one be indulging a potential ritualist or a kidnapper that it is ok to take lives that you have only committed a crime like some yahooboy will do isn't that on another level of wrong!cos we're gonna keep having our girls been killed for whatever occultic purposes any yahoo boy that takes a life or drives his victim to suicide should get the death penalty that is my stand on such crimes...that's no human being that's a monster and the world can do without such people but if a yahoo boy that defrauds his client of some money gets caught then he should go to jail and he should not get the same treatment as a ritualist or kidnapper...not that he shouldn't get punished accordingly after all If you do the crime you should be ready to do time!so do you now understand clearly what I have been saying...??and the part you talked bout not bragging you couldn't have bragged more when you said places I have been to and the ppl I have met you can never attain such feat with all yahoo robbery...and you talked bout self esteem and bla bla bla..whereas I never accused you of being poverty infested nor did I call you a low life or a loser cos trust me such view would be really myopic cos I don't know anything about you that would be fallacious and I'm not even the type to unnecessarily look down on people materially especially people I haven't met!that's wrong and illogical.So why you think you need to flaunt whatever achievement you have got then still baffles me!it's unsolicited and unnecessary you should be more humble!cos I personally don't blow my trumpet especially on a faceless forum like this that the most you can get of an individual's identity is there photos..so for your own sake don't do that again I could have dragged you nonstop cos of that statement but it doesn't change anything bout me I let it slide and don't bother listing and roll out any of such accomplishments' cos you will only be making a fool out of yourself some things are better left unsaid darling!but if you still wanna do it dont quote me when you put it up just post it cos I'm not interested in knowing about and I don't care!So in summary you seem to care...and I care too especially bout our young ppl while you seem to blame them more,I personally believe our so called leaders are largely responsible..i want us to change the narrative too..but the government seems disenchanted,unconcerned and disconnected from the citizenry whereas their welfare should be the priority of any responsible government!let them give our youths options..and engage them...having a good life doesn't make one immune or blind to hardship an average Nigerian faces on a daily...people are frustrated and depressed join that to being broke or living abject poverty any young person with such realities or situation will mostly see cyber fraud as an option...it's more of survival for such people...so in a nutshell cyberfraud is a crime I never said it's not in any of my post I just its not an heinous crime it's a soft crime..and I believe it's bad too but all I'm saying is ranting,lamenting won't solve a thing neither is crucifying or chastising them we need a solution fast...cos the government and our society is giving our boys excuses...the government merely arresting yahooboys is not the way to go...they need to provide alternatives unless that monster would continue to rear its ugly head!

Carlyboi:
Reread your posts Missy then you would see your posts I have been riddled with insults and attacks until I served you in more of you doses then you took cover and started retracting and stylishly recant your words what other possible way would you attack me than saying perpetrating my yahoo robbery stylishly calling me a thief when you don't know shit bout me do you know I can charge you for character assassination of such slander?I didn't put it up or said I'm a yahooboy in any part of my post I only said...even tho cyberfraud is a crime it shouldn't still be put in the same breath with ritualism and armed robbery or kidnapping!especially ritual killings and kidnapping they vary in kind and degree....which leads me to the part of incoherence!can you please point out the incoherence from my assertion here and thereafter?that's an unambiguous statement so the incoherence you're on about I'm still trying to spot it!Then when I said you can't intellectually engage me without kissing the dust is predicated on your position of me running out of ideas and not being able to engage you intellectually but rather resorting to insults!how else should I engage you do I need to put a ring on your finger before I intelligently engage you lol!pun intended!on the issue of insults you insulted me first by jumping into ridiculous assumptions so blame "you" if I decide to extend the courtesy darling!anyways its all unimportant now....it's spilt milk and there is no issue here...lastly I think the harshest critics of yahoo boy are the rich people I think the poor ones are most driven by hate or jealousy or maybe beef maybe they have an ax to grind!or they have an ill-fated contact but on your part you came up with an argument so I never for once thought you're broke or living in poverty cos of your criticism but I guess you also followed the stereotype thus assuming I saw you as a lowlife or an hater lol!its the same stereotype that made you conclude that I'm a yahooboy simply cos I have a contrary opinion to yours but I'm sorry dear....i don't do stereotypes especially when the person concerned has not give me an explicit too for labeling or categorization....anyways if you enjoyed this conversation with me and you're already off your high horse...then we can engage in purposeful discussion offline but if you think you're too big todo or that I can't even sit at the same table with you lol!then takecare!as for me I'm done here,so I'm just gonna say it's been nice talking to you and have a good life babygirl also I'm quite young like you so don't get the impression that you've been conversing with an elder all along lol!

Carlyboi:
.what embarrassment?hahaha!Fyi you quoted me first and I gave you a reply my opinion I wasn't necessarily selling you my ideas...so you can choose to agree or disagree..then you wont stop and I stated this tirade is meaningless if you quote me a million times what I said wont change that's my perspective and the issue of yahoo been a soft crime is a fact...and I never said its not a crime!so me saying I'm done means I'm no more interested in the back and forth you have got some education to do put it up on your space....people that are interested will read and learn...but your continuous response and braggadocio shows your either seeking attention or trying to score some cheap points!the attention and audience you got but the points won't work with me...I'm done with this issue if you wanna talk bout something else,something productive,fine,but on this same subject I'm done!what's so difficult for you to understand in all that!you quoted me with some other guy at the same Time I only gave him one reply maybe he agrees or disagrees it's up to him cos I'm not trying to superimpose my views on anyone but he did something smart he maintained his peace cos a continuous argument bout this his needless and meaningless!its that simple babygirl!so just do the same ok;

Carlyboi:
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TAO11:


Attention!!!

You "forgot" to reply me on the following:.



You wrote: “i know you must have checked my profile at least once”
You keep holding on to straws and you're not making any sense??One you can never make me feel inconsequential cos you're a Nobody?and nobody can!also you said I'm contemplating yahoo robbery in your words!where and when the only thing I said is if I ever go into yahoo...so I don't know if you 're dyslexic or hallucinating or maybe you're just deliberately making yourself befuddled!what has been involved in yahoo got to do with living in poverty...what sort fallacy is that...is just like saying all runs girls come from a poor background or all weed smokers are thugs or street urchins if you are smart enough you would know that a yahooboy doesn't necessarily have to come from a poor background and that's why I said you must be suffering from low self esteem to think everyone is living the people that you surround yourself with...further you said I compared you with Karl Marx!how?I said you're doing a poor job of imitating intelligent people and great thinkers...lol...i can't even rank you alongside okonjo iweala lol!so it's time to bring yourself back to earth from where my word must have taken you by erroneous assumption lol!when I said you were seeking attention or trying to score cheap points you said No!but now you have agreed with my position that Yahoo is not the same kind of crime with ritual killing and kidnapping so what's the meaningless tirade for?or maybe you didn't even check my posts on this topic before sheepishly engaging me?Your statement and my position is the same thing but you have beating yourself up over my words but you would eventually agree on the same position!I also stated that yahoo is crime and immoral but you can still equate with some of those heinous crimes!Then about your statements bout have I eaten today!you said you were mocking me but added literally how can you be joking and you added literally do you even know the meaning of literally??Smh!also you said I assumed we were in the same country by talking bout a date...i only suggested and besides what also makes you think?we can't be living in the same country!there is no way cos you haven't told me where you live and neither have I and unless you have checked my profile which you accused me of narcissism for then there is no erroneous assumption there and then...but asides the date thing I first mentioned you can engage me offline if you have got anything productive to talk bout do we need to be in the same country or city to do that too?if we assume you're even partially right bout the going on a date thing which I even said on a lighter note cos I don't even know what you look like and I don't do blind dates lol!then you where do you live really or something in a very condescending manner like you don't live on planet earth then you come back to say oh you don't mean to insult me with it after you have realized you goofed big time and also you said you don't intend to put me down by your statement that I saw Europe or North America as a big deal!who??it's You!young girl you're the One who said where I have been and who I have met you can't attain the same you're also the one asking a ridiculous question of where do I reside really!so it shows that where you live and where you have been to are the the things that give you that feeling of euphoria and a false sense of Superiority!anyways choose your words carefully babygirl so that they wont come back and bite you in the Ass and stop needless bragging and providing unsolicited information bout your life how good you think it Is it is a huge turn off and makes you look shallow more of an empty barrel which makes too much noise!let your works speak for You and also dont brag bout phantom achievement and accomplishment to someone you know jack bout on a faceless forum!that very posh you may think you have might just be like living in the gutter to Them!ok!
This is typical of every narcissist. You proved my point again.


You wrote: “and where do you live Miss!Mars or jupiter,Europe or North America,Abuja,lagos,Port harcourt,or where really lol! is that what is bursting your brain thats what is freaking you...”

Smiles … I am very sorry you’re feeling this way. But my point here is not to highlight your limitation. My point is that you jumped the gun. You requested that we should go on a date (on the assumption that exchanging conversation implies living in the same country) without first been sure of how far apart we may be. (i.e. whether I’m in Nigeria while you are in Australia etc.)


You continued: “is that one of the places you think i can never go to and is that where you derive your joy lol!”

Short Reply: No! it’s not, and I’m not been mischievous by saying no.

It is actually pathetic that you think that leaving Nigeria was what I meant when I noted that you will never be able to achieve some things. I am very sorry you reason this low. No! That really must be your all time low!


You wrote: “anyway I am not so surprised you already stated you are in your 20s it takes some 40 years of existence before the mature psychologically and intellectually”

Are you saying this about someone that you singlehandedly (without been compelled by me) ranked with likes of Karl Marx?


You wrote: “you said have i eaten today”

Hahaha! I was only mocking you here oo, in case you thought I was saying you’re inconsequential.


You wrote: “you also made an erroneous statement....a yahoo boy live in penury yahoo and penury are two words that dont go together so its gonna be better you stick to a narrative so you can just ask yourself and take a stand instead of causing confusing yourself!lol!”

The joke is actually on you lil boy. You hinted that you may be taking up “yahoo” robbery job soon (and that’s the narrative I’ve been consistent with). Hence, the explanation that you are currently a pauper. And these two ideas are not contradictory.
You must be the confused one to not know your current state. Whether already in the “yahoo” robbery profession or still contemplating it.

So, stretching a hand of financial support to you is absolutely consistent with your contemplation of robbery. Because, I believe (I may be wrong) that it could only be financial frustration that would have make you to be contemplating such.


You wrote: “yahoo is not the in the same degree of crime as armed robbery and kidnapping nor is it the same thing as killing people for money rituals which is murder”

Stop committing strawman fallacy. I have never compared “yahoo” robbery to murder or kidnapping, you did. You created that imaginary comparison and you then attacked it after deludedly convincing yourself that I created it. That's known in argumentation as straw man fallacy

What I have consistently maintained instead is that “yahoo” [sic] is robbery, and armed robbery is robbery. Both involve stealing from others or robbing others of what belongs to them, regardless of whether it involves hiding behind a mask or behind the internet; or whether it involves using pressure, coercion, force, etc. or using false pretense, thievery etc.

Saying it's a soft crime is to only highlight the environment in which it's been perpetrated, while being dead-scared about describing its specific nature because you’re contemplating engaging in it soon. May you be caught!


You wrote: “Rape and murder are both criminal acts but all over the world does rape and murder attract the same punishment”

Yes, there are climes where rape and murder attract the same punishment. But that's not even my argument. I have never equated "yahoo" robbery with rape, murder, etc, you brought those up to trick your mind.


And your concluding rant is tantamount to saying:

I have quoted you, but please don’t quote me; and I am running away because I can’t match you intellectually

Peace tho …

Carlyboi:
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TAO11:



You wrote: “what embarrassment?hahaha!Fyi you quoted me first and I gave you a reply”

The embarrassment I reffered to is not about who quoted who first, but about your weird reasoning.

Your weird reasoning gave off the idea that:To be candid you have not made any sense here!that i put up a position and you interpreted as a fact and not an opinion is your business!i never told it is a fact!the only thing i said is a fact is that cyber fraud is a soft crime and your ranting wont change that afterall you are educated you can delve deeper into cyber fraud and its meaning and categorization and you also said i cant match you intellectually really!that must be the joke of the year!Really!You?are you day dreaming or hallucinating anyways!i am done here and you seem to be very idle cos really the reason you keep sending me replies that are meaningless and seems like attempts to sound half smart i dont know!but seems you are attracted to me...so you can keep quoting me since it gives you so much joy!ok!there is nothing left to be said here on this topic or my position here for me...but since my statement that you quit with the quoting and replies made you assume some false of triumph or victor then keep it up!but you should not rant if i choose to ignore you tho!byei]he who replies repeatedly desperately needs attention[/i].

Applying your weird reason to your case will therefore mean that you need attention because you’ve been replying back to back.

This is not to say that I agree with your reasoning. Of course not, it is obviously weird; this, I am not obliged to agree with the resulting conclusion from your weird reasoning, i.e. that I need your attention.

But since you necessarily have to agree with your own reasoning, it then goes to show that you desperately need attention (as you’ve been replying back to back).

This is the embarrassment I noted you could have saved yourself.



You continued: “my opinion I wasn't necessarily selling you my ideas...so you can choose to agree or disagree”

I have already discussed how your new choice of word i.e. “opinion” shows you to be toning down your argument. You started out quite more assertive and factual.

Your choice of word i.e. “opinion” implies that you no longer necessarily consider your position to be based on fact or knowledge. That’s what opinion means in case you chose the wrong word.


And you concluded after much waffling: “you quoted me with some other guy at the same Time I only gave him one reply maybe he agrees or disagrees it's up to him cos I'm not trying to superimpose my views on anyone but he did something smart he maintained his peace cos a continuous argument bout this his needless and meaningless!its that simple babygirl!so just do the same ok”


It’s interesting how you think others should do “something smart” but not you … lol. You have a choice whether or not to reply. I can’t stop you from excercising your choice.


And one more time, please stop begging me not to reply. Lol …

TAO11:



stop hiding your responses somewhere inside mine.

Be you.

Make your reply distinct and separate from what you're actually replying to.

I will be generous enough to sift out your reply when I will be replying you though; but you really need to realize that you should be man enough to stop hiding around.

TAO11:


You wrote: “Reread your posts Missy then you would see your posts I have been riddled with insults and attacks until I served you in more of you doses then you took cover and started retracting and stylishly recant your words”

Smiles … I noted almost from the beginning that I will not be “attempting to match your rudeness and nastiness”. So, it wasn’t an afterthought at all.

Moreover, you went so low that you said things like “who raised you?” and even made mention of "entire lineage". And if you really maintain that you were only responding to me in kind, then I challenge you to highlight at least an instance where I used such words while replying you.

I understand that the reality actually is that you resorted to these words at the very point you realized you cannot match my argument intellectually.

But I am not angry, no that’s not my point. There is no point being angry. My point is that you denied saying anything of such until I was forced to cite examples. It is your denial that I emphasized to be a lie. You lied.


You continued: “what other possible way would you attack me than saying perpetrating my yahoo robbery stylishly calling me a thief when you don't know poo bout me do you know I can charge you for character assassination of such slander?I didn't put it up or said I'm a yahooboy in any part of my post”


I have already addressed your contention here when I challenged “you to highlight at least one statement of mine showing that I stated that you’re currently engaged in “yahoo” robbery even after you’ve noted that “yahoo” [sic] is criminal.”


You wrote: “I only said...even tho cyberfraud is a crime it shouldn't still be put in the same breath with ritualism and armed robbery or kidnapping!especially ritual killings and kidnapping they vary in kind and degree....which leads me to the part of incoherence! can you please point out the incoherence from my assertion here and thereafter? that's an unambiguous statement so the incoherence you're on about I'm still trying to spot it!”

I have already dealt with this where I noted that “there was never a time in the course of our exchange that I equated “yahoo” robbery with occult activities, murder, or kidnapping, etc.”.

I have shown with some detail that your “argument” here constitutes a straw man logical fallacy; and the fact that it is a logical fallacy implies that it is incoherent because incoherence as I have noted is the quality of being illogical, inconsistent, or unintelligible.

I also in the same breath addressed the issue of armed robbery, and I did that quite thoroughly.

You wrote: “Then when I said you can't intellectually engage me without kissing the dust is predicated on your position of me running out of ideas and not being able to engage you intellectually but rather resorting to insults!”

Yes, I provided an explanation for why you resorted to insults. That is not one and the same thing as making an isolated claim (which I should actually be proving) as evidence for the very thing I am out to prove.

Furthermore, I have dealt with the issue of insults and I don’t want to over flog it so that you don’t get a wrong impression. I have posed a challenge to you in this regard, and I will re-open this issue only if you live up to the challenge.


Regarding whether or not you thought I was a low life loser, I have already addressed this in the foregoing reply above, and I showed with evidence how that precisely was what you thought about me just for the simple reason that I condemned “yahoo" robbery.

Also, the rich and the poor criticize not only “yahoo” robbers, but also armed robbers etal, in case you have some weird thoughts at the back of your mind.


You concluded: “anyways if you enjoyed this conversation with me and you're already off your high horse... then we can engage in purposeful discussion offline but if you think you're too big todo or that I can't even sit at the same table with you lol!then takecare!".

You’re still making the same mistake of jumping the gun by requesting that we discuss offline over some table. I have broken it down for you, and it beats me how you still don’t get it. Maybe I should granulate it then, lol ...

Your question assumes that we both reside in the same continent, country, or even city. This unwarranted assumption of yours appears to me to be informed from the fact that we’ve been exchanging messages. But you need to realize that our exchange is over the internet and not necessarily some intra-continent, intra-country, or intra-city sms exchange. So, it may not be as simple as you’ve assumed, hence you jumped the gun.


You ended your conclusion with: “I'm quite young like you so don't get the impression that you've been conversing with an elder all along lol!”

Lol ... I am actually inclined to thinking you’re quite young and not in your 40s as you cunningly hinted somewhere. Hence, the reason I said you’re probably older when I said I was in my 20s. I wouldn’t have added the word "probably" if I had assumed that you were some elder.

Carlyboi:
hiding in your epistles??lol!whether you sieve or sift is none of my business,besides in your last 10 replies or so you have only been highlighting my words I can't see any original thoughts...but I can see you really need attention...i can't give you that much attention anymore especially when I have already done justice to the topic and you have also agreed with my position that yahoo can't be equated with crimes such as ritual killing,armed robbery and kidnapping even tho it's a crime too...

Carlyboi:
So in your little mind now!people who dont live in the same country or city can't communicate??cos I don't understand you...i talk with people in the U.K.,us,Canada and Australia I have had a chat with someone in the Netherlands before so I don't know where you came to conclusion that it's gonna be very difficult or near impossible for us to have an offline discussion especially when both parties are connected to the internet I'm guessing this is another not well thought-out statement from you...you goofed young girl!lol!and also if you are taking out ritualism and kidnapping I'm still putting it to you that in a court of law cyber fraud and armed robbery even tho they are both criminal acts can't be equated and they're different in degree...

TAO11:


Lol ... you're desperately clutching at straws now.

People who dont live in the same country obviouslune do communicate offline or off the internet, but obviously not over a breakfast, lunch, or dinner table.

[I have deliberately boldened some words because you used them, and those words made all the difference].

So, your counter-reply in this regard falls flat on its nose, and the reality remains that you jumped the gun.


Furthermore, I am not taking out ritualism, kidnapping, and even murder because I never put them in in the furat place, you did. So, admit that you goofed in that regard, and state that it's your responsibility and not mine to take them out. You committed the straw man fallacy ab initio.

Lastly, cyber fraud (aka "yahoo" [sic]) and armed robbery will not get the same treatment in the Court of Law, yes; and I have never said they will.

I have repeatedly maintained that the armed robber will bear a further burden of possession of arms in the first place which is a crime on its own. And even further burden of causing someone fear and perhaps a further burden of causing physical injury or death which are all separate crimes on their own.

I talked about this issue of arms from the outset and I called it the thin line. What is common betwen the two is that they both involve stealing from others, and that is what makes either of them robbery.

My position therefore has not changed from what it has always been, and it is still that:

Armed robber is robbery, "yahoo" [sic] is robbery.

Bcause they both involve stealing from others be it through false pretence, or thievery, etc. in the case of "yahoo" [sic]; or by using pressure, coercion, or even physical force from possesing arms (and sometimes by first causing the death of the victim) in the case of armed robbery.

Carlyboi:
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