lebuhsi:
but..wait a minute guys....don't y'all think we've been getting this COIN thing all wrong?.... A wise guy once told me, 'take out all the bad guys, then new bad guys will come take their place'....we can't just think if we kill them all the problem would just simply go away do we?...the Americans have been in Afghanistan for over a decade now..and surprise, surprise....the Taliban still controls about 60% of the country!!....now, how is it that the strongest country in the world with all the fancy toys.....ucavs, tactical and or technical superiority can not successfully eliminate a bunch of AK wielding fanatics?.....it's because it is counter insurgency!!!....gun wielding foreigners ''imposing themselves'' on the local pop. you can never win this kind of war militarily, Bleep it!!....trump just figured that out....that's why he's pulling the boys and girls out of syria....you can all him all you want but that, my friends is the best decision he has ever made!...the U.S.A isn't winning the war on terror, the're only making new enemies....the sooner they'd pulled out of there the better.....the only way to really win the COIN war is politically, compromise.....no matter how bleeped up someone is....you'd still sort for a peace of mind...if there's peace...economic activities would flourish and if that happens they'll be prosperity for the local community...if there's that..then they'll certainly be peace....I'm very disappointed to say that the only solutions we hear from top brass are military solutions only...that wouldn't get us anywhere it would only extend the underlaying problem...that there was and still is poverty and neglect in the north east...and if we don't solve this problem or first things first, think there's a problem...and continue to treat the enemy as shit....then am sorry to say this folks, they'll still be insurgents in the north east hundreds of years to come, like in Afghanistan..the super tucs, jf-17s and whatever badass toys we can afford to buy won't save us we should learn from the mistake. i guess it's alright to say, YOU CAN NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS!!!

I must say I am shocked at this comment. Though I respect it as your personal opinion. The mere suggestion of seeking "political compromise" with Islamic extremists is unimaginable. On what basis are we to negotiate with terrorists?, these people are not even pursuing genuine and progressive ambitions, what they seek is a caliphate, and the basic instrument of a caliphate is military expansionism,giving them such a compromise today is tantamount to encouraging future rebellion. So are we to give the entire country, in fact, the entire region to a bunch of crazed ragamuffins?

If everyone thinks they can make trouble and get settled by the government, then we aren't even safe anymore. What about the thousands of soldiers that have shed their blood to protect every inch of territory we have in that region today?.

The problem is that the Nigerian government is not serious about putting an end to the Boko Haram question, if we procure very sophisticated firepower from the appropriate quarters and train our men properly, we will pummel these miscreants into submission through sheer military force.

Ethiopian National Defense Force

lebuhsi:
but..wait a minute guys....don't y'all think we've been getting this COIN thing all wrong?.... A wise guy once told me, 'take out all the bad guys, then new bad guys will come take their place'....we can't just think if we kill them all the problem would just simply go away do we?...the Americans have been in Afghanistan for over a decade now..and surprise, surprise....the Taliban still controls about 60% of the country!!....now, how is it that the strongest country in the world with all the fancy toys.....ucavs, tactical and or technical superiority can not successfully eliminate a bunch of AK wielding fanatics?.....it's because it is counter insurgency!!!....gun wielding foreigners ''imposing themselves'' on the local pop. you can never win this kind of war militarily, Bleep it!!....trump just figured that out....that's why he's pulling the boys and girls out of syria....you can all him all you want but that, my friends is the best decision he has ever made!...the U.S.A isn't winning the war on terror, the're only making new enemies....the sooner they'd pulled out of there the better.....the only way to really win the COIN war is politically, compromise.....no matter how bleeped up someone is....you'd still sort for a peace of mind...if there's peace...economic activities would flourish and if that happens they'll be prosperity for the local community...if there's that..then they'll certainly be peace....I'm very disappointed to say that the only solutions we hear from top brass are military solutions only...that wouldn't get us anywhere it would only extend the underlaying problem...that there was and still is poverty and neglect in the north east...and if we don't solve this problem or first things first, think there's a problem...and continue to treat the enemy as shit....then am sorry to say this folks, they'll still be insurgents in the north east hundreds of years to come, like in Afghanistan..the super tucs, jf-17s and whatever badass toys we can afford to buy won't save us we should learn from the mistake. i guess it's alright to say, YOU CAN NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS!!!

I think i agree with you. However we're stuck in a very terrible situation. The Nigerian army is doing so badly in the prosecution of this insurgency that we're going to be negotiating from a position of weakness.

We need a complete overhaul of the military. Buratai is completely out of ideas and his league. We desperately need a change of leadership, training, equipment and doctrine.

See how the military keeps losing equipment, it's embarrassing.

carabin13:
Ethiopian National Defense Force

Ethiopian beauty. Would love to c0ck her guns anytime anyday

Henry240:
Nigerian navy SBS quick infiltration

How many of the AW109 does the navy still have in service

ignant:
Algerian1, looking at the very determined efforts of Algeria to bolster their defences and internal security, what do you think of armed insurgency in Algeria now?

Algeria suffered hudge terrorism in 90's with little what look like insurgency in some regions . algeria use two sides in fighting terrorism , the army side and also economics and civils action develipping poor regions , using moderate imams , cutting saoudia arabia wahabit influence and most important after big part of terrorism was eliminated a Charter for Peace and National Reconciliation choosed by referendum in 2005 and appliyed in 2006 givin amnesty to terrorists who havnt killed peoeple . many laid down their arms and surrendered. leaving only a small number. the hard core and the most fanatical. that the army continues to eliminate

Result in fighting terrorism in 2017 , 2016 . the report for 2018 will be published in few days

Algerian1:
the Algerian army has published the report of the fight against terrorism for 2017

- The elimination of (91) terrorists and arrest (40) others, including five (05) women.
- Thirty (30) terrorists surrendered to the military authorities.
- 214 support elements arrested for terrorist groups.
- six (06) bodies of terrorists found .
- Detecting and destroying (423) terrorist hideouts and (09) workshops for the manufacture of explosives.
- (678) guns (288 Kalashnikov, 263 rifles, 26 pistols, 63 machine guns, 16 rocket launchers, 17 conventional artillery, 05 mortar shells).
- Detect and destroy 1284 explosive devices (conventional bombs, mines, projectiles and explosive belts).
- A total of 256 ammunition stores, 53 ammunition boxes, 38 ammunition magazines and 179,456 rounds of various caliber were seized.
- A significant amount of explosives, field glasses, mobile phones, satellite communication devices and other purposes were also seized.


For Combating smuggling, organized crime and illegal immigration:

- 545 drug dealers arrested and the elimination of four (04) others.
- 1880 smugglersarrested for various materials and goods.
- 116 gold miners arrested .
- 11 weapons dealers arrested and the elimination of one (01) another.
- A total of 486.5 quintals of cannabis and 5.77 kg of cocaine were seized.
- 1272028 A hallucinatory tablet seized
- More than 1460.5 tons of food destined for smuggling were seized.
- More than 1,198,994 liters of fuel have been seized.
- 476 metal detectors were seized, in addition to 668 generators and 520 pressure hammers.
- more than 900 vehicles seized .
- More than 8385.73 quintals of tobacco were seized.
- 284858 units of fireworks seized .
- 15065 illegal immigrants arrested and attempted illegal immigration.

algerian army 2016 result . published in El-Djeich review for december (official algerian army monthly review)

- 125 terrorist killed
- 225 terrorist arrested
- 458 weapons caches
- 2556 kg of chimical product for explosif production
- 2615 Smugglers arrested
- 414 narco-trafficker :
- 110 tonnes canabis
- 1.839.827 litre of fuel
- Amunition : (17 helicopter rocket, 338 RPG7, 640 morters, 107 klashinkov cross ,24470 rifle munition, 31 Kg TNT, 735 Kg explosif product, 635 Kg dynamite ect.. )

Tv report about algerian local military industry .


Pass quickely


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqfWxi57Djo

Algerian1:
Tv report about algerian local military industry .


Pass quickely


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqfWxi57Djo

Subtitles,my dude?

jteku:


How many of the AW109 does the navy still have in service

Not enough.

lebuhsi:
but..wait a minute guys....don't y'all think we've been getting this COIN thing all wrong?.... A wise guy once told me, '

You don't negotiate with certain types of terrorists. What concessions do you offer religious fanatics who increasingly demand more often than necessary? Sharia in the North then they're killing off non adherents and proclaiming they're not subject to the constitution. Afghanistan and or Pakistan aren't the best examples of why we should kowtow cos their armies are terrible and some of their soldiers are also apathetic to their government they claim to be for.

With political will Iraq & Syria collectively ran their offensives in parallel until shitty state lost almost all of their positions plus they're constantly being attacked. Both countries enjoy similar benefits with Nigeria in having soldiers with far opposed ideologies to the terrorists they fight.

The unfit training/doctrine norm is what the current hierarchy is exhibiting.
Example, ordinary army cadets are on the front page today beating up a civilian. Same pattern all over the country cos the same they go through in the name of training which they think it's alright to do.

With the attacks, we simply don't know the dynamics of warfare. Probably they ran out of ammo or got surprised. However the patterns are too awfully similar for them not to have fixed the issues. Bases overrun, looted and to be continued at the next position. It also looks like the army is under manned with soldiers spending far too long on front lines becoming demoralised or losing the will to keep fighting through horrors and mental strength. I'm seeing katyusha, tanks, apcs getting destroyed or seized by enemies attacking with hmg, aa guns and lots of half trained recruits.

Nigeria is also reaping the benefits of the people they elect. Arguing about Jonathan and Buhari like both didn't 'come, see and failed woefully'
This country is breeding a terrible system of governance that means people don't even know what leadership entails. The piecemeal semblance of terrible governance is what some of you arel fighting over abi? After all, it isn't like they didn't collectively oversee the murder of tens of thousands of Nigerians but they did nothing to stymie that trend.

If you want to negotiate, do it with the type of ND militants or the various disenfranchised groups. However to Negotiate with these bastards bh and the other group especially from the current position of weakness, then be prepared to lose more than we've seen.

BlackBaron:
You don't negotiate with certain types of terrorists. What concessions do you offer religious fanatics who increasingly demand more often than necessary? Sharia in the North then they're killing off non adherents and proclaiming they're not subject to the constitution. Afghanistan and or Pakistan aren't the best examples of why we should kowtow cos their armies are terrible and some of their soldiers are also apathetic to their government they claim to be for.

With political will Iraq & Syria collectively ran their offensives in parallel until shitty state lost almost all of their positions plus they're constantly being attacked. Both countries enjoy similar benefits with Nigeria in having soldiers with far opposed ideologies to the terrorists they fight.

The unfit training/doctrine norm is what the current hierarchy is exhibiting.
Example, ordinary army cadets are on the front page today beating up a civilian. Same pattern all over the country cos the same they go through in the name of training which they think it's alright to do.

With the attacks, we simply don't know the dynamics of warfare. Probably they ran out of ammo or got surprised. However the patterns are too awfully similar for them not to have fixed the issues. Bases overrun, looted and to be continued at the next position. It also looks like the army is under manned with soldiers spending far too long on front lines becoming demoralised or losing the will to keep fighting through horrors and mental strength. I'm seeing katyusha, tanks, apcs getting destroyed or seized by enemies attacking with hmg, aa guns and lots of half trained recruits.

Nigeria is also reaping the benefits of the people they elect. Arguing about Jonathan and Buhari like both didn't 'come, see and failed woefully'
This country is breeding a terrible system of governance that means people don't even know what leadership entails. The piecemeal semblance of terrible governance is what some of you arel fighting over abi? After all, it isn't like they didn't collectively oversee the murder of tens of thousands of Nigerians but they did nothing to stymie that trend.

If you want to negotiate, do it with the type of ND militants or the various disenfranchised groups. However to Negotiate with these bastards bh and the other group especially from the current position of weakness, then be prepared to lose more than we've seen.

i wouldn't agree more!......but my point is....we're only eliminating BHTs, not the ideology that's the problem

EVarn:
I must say I am shocked at this comment. Though I respect it as your personal opinion. The mere suggestion of seeking "political compromise" with Islamic extremists is unimaginable. On what basis are we to negotiate with terrorists?, these people are not even pursuing genuine and progressive ambitions, what they seek is a caliphate, and the basic instrument of a caliphate is military expansionism,giving them such a compromise today is tantamount to encouraging future rebellion. So are we to give the entire country, in fact, the entire region to a bunch of crazed ragamuffins?

If everyone thinks they can make trouble and get settled by the government, then we aren't even safe anymore. What about the thousands of soldiers that have shed their blood to protect every inch of territory we have in that region today?.

The problem is that the Nigerian government is not serious about putting an end to the Boko Haram question, if we procure very sophisticated firepower from the appropriate quarters and train our men properly, we will pummel these miscreants into submission through sheer military force.

well, okay think about the situation in zamfara for instance, i believe it's more of a socioeconomic problem rather than a full scale jihadi rave....sending more policemen or military men is sending the wrong signals...all this bandits want is to eat...rather than straight up murder them, we might as well had tried other 'reasonable' solutions first...all am saying is military solutions to problem might no be as effective as we think...but it can work in pari passu with political solutions.

BlackBaron:
You don't negotiate with certain types of terrorists. What concessions do you offer religious fanatics who increasingly demand more often than necessary? Sharia in the North then they're killing off non adherents and proclaiming they're not subject to the constitution. Afghanistan and or Pakistan aren't the best examples of why we should kowtow cos their armies are terrible and some of their soldiers are also apathetic to their government they claim to be for.

With political will Iraq & Syria collectively ran their offensives in parallel until shitty state lost almost all of their positions plus they're constantly being attacked. Both countries enjoy similar benefits with Nigeria in having soldiers with far opposed ideologies to the terrorists they fight.

The unfit training/doctrine norm is what the current hierarchy is exhibiting.
Example, ordinary army cadets are on the front page today beating up a civilian. Same pattern all over the country cos the same they go through in the name of training which they think it's alright to do.

With the attacks, we simply don't know the dynamics of warfare. Probably they ran out of ammo or got surprised. However the patterns are too awfully similar for them not to have fixed the issues. Bases overrun, looted and to be continued at the next position. It also looks like the army is under manned with soldiers spending far too long on front lines becoming demoralised or losing the will to keep fighting through horrors and mental strength. I'm seeing katyusha, tanks, apcs getting destroyed or seized by enemies attacking with hmg, aa guns and lots of half trained recruits.

Nigeria is also reaping the benefits of the people they elect. Arguing about Jonathan and Buhari like both didn't 'come, see and failed woefully'
This country is breeding a terrible system of governance that means people don't even know what leadership entails. The piecemeal semblance of terrible governance is what some of you arel fighting over abi? After all, it isn't like they didn't collectively oversee the murder of tens of thousands of Nigerians but they did nothing to stymie that trend.

If you want to negotiate, do it with the type of ND militants or the various disenfranchised groups. However to Negotiate with these bastards bh and the other group especially from the current position of weakness, then be prepared to lose more than we've seen.

you got a point, mate

lebuhsi:
well, okay think about the situation in zamfara for instance, i believe it's more of a socioeconomic problem rather than a full scale jihadi rave....sending more policemen or military men is sending the wrong signals...all this bandits want is to eat...rather than straight up murder them, we might as well had tried other 'reasonable' solutions first...all am saying is military solutions to problem might no be as effective as we think...but it can work in pari passu with political solutions.

Yes, maybe we can negotiate with truly marginalized groups like those in Zamfara, that is, if they have genuine grievances that prompted them to pick up arms against the state in the first place. But BH and ISWAP are fundamentalists, they believe in the gaseous idea of a theocratic state that disregards the sovereignty and constitution of Nigeria, there can be no negotiation with them.

Algeria

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lebuhsi:
i wouldn't agree more!......but my point is....we're only eliminating BHTs, not the ideology that's the problem

To be honest, I'm stumped on how to go about that.
There's local dynamics at play here. There's reasons why it's being localised to North East rather than all over the North.
We do have the basic denominators of illiteracy, abandoned/neglected children (who are potentially easy recruits to fight against the state) plus borderline extremist beliefs (considering the many iterations of religious violence endured in the past - some as flimsy killings in the name of hosting Miss World)

We can defeat them militarily but also ensure systems where ideas or beliefs aren't allowed to gain military strength while also working on turning hearts and minds away from evil.

kikuyu1:


Why is the army doing civvy cop duties? You're not Tutsis like Rwanda and Uganda who love force and intimidation-what's the deal?

Something about the CiC wanting increased law enforcement visibility over the festive season to curb lawlessness

Crashed AFZ Alouette around Gutu, Zimbabwe

ViceAdmirlAgain:


Something about the CiC wanting increased law enforcement visibility over the festive season to curb lawlessness

But why? Without active insurgency why should the army be (mis) used as cops? Or is there a secret COIN war we haven't heard of??

kikuyu1:


But why? Without active insurgency why should the army be (mis) used as cops? Or is there a secret COIN war we haven't heard of??

Namibia gets a sh1t load of tourists this time of year, and it could just be that the police are overstretched.

Besides Namibia is an extremely safe and stable country with no history of any civil intimidation/oppression.... If anything we should take Namibia as an example to follow.

NAF AIRCRAFT NEUTRALIZE SEVERAL TERRORISTS AT THEIR HIDEOUT NEAR BAGA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAD7TBO7ZcQ

NAF AIR STRIKES NEUTRALIZE ARMED BANDITS’ HIDEOUT WEST OF TSAMARI IN BIRNIN MAGAJI LGA OF ZAMFARA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3hFr6U9pzk

kikuyu1:


But why? Without active insurgency why should the army be (mis) used as cops? Or is there a secret COIN war we haven't heard of??

December is when locals n tourists travel and party the most so Shopping malls, drinking establishments and our roads become lawless...so added visibility to assist the police might help reign this in

The Navy usually deploys divers as lifeguards at popular beaches as well

The Operation ends mid January

While you all are focused on Baga don't forget Zamfara,the stories from that state almost made me cry.