| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by alBHAGDADI: 4:21pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
chara019:
All this once saved caliber of Christians.
So,if I accept Christ today and go ahead to fornicate,I am justified to still be in tune with Christ and even be in spirit.
Funny thing is ,you guys really know how to preach this eternity saving grace wella.
My idea,of been identified as a CHRISTIAN, is to remain in Christ ALWAYS, yes it may not be a smooth sail all the way but staying out of sin is the deal,Christ forgives,and he is full of mercy and grace,that doesn't mean we should take it for granted.Biko.No dey lead astray,that your first two/three lines,burst my head.
Happy Sunday Show me one man who is without sin and I will show you a liar. We are all sinners, the only thing that differentiates us is that some of us are relying on Jesus as our saviour while the rest are trusting in their fake ability not to sin to save them. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by alBHAGDADI: 4:23pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
kokakola:
Believing is never enough. Believing and Confessing Jesus as your Lord and Saviour is what makes Salvation Vital.
"Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Believing alone is never enough!
Shslom
It doesn't say confess your sins, it simply says confess Jesus and you will be saved. |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by alBHAGDADI: 4:25pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
oluwamaich:
See as he mentioned leading to hell fire as if he knows the road to hell.
A saved soul is he who believed in Jesus. If you believe and still sin, are you telling me that sin shall be overlooked because you believe and your sin won't lead you to hell...
Biko, clear your point Who is without sin? All are sinners and are doomed. But those who see Jesus as their saviour will be saved while those who don't believe in his work on the cross will be doomed because they are trusting in their own works to save them. Thats pure rejection of Jesus Christ. |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by Oliego(m): 4:27pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
2 timothy 2:19 says that nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, the lord knoweth them that are his. And let every one that nameth the name of lord depart from inquity.
Now how can you call on whom you don't believe...so believing on God n u say dats it, its all done, i cn go abt nt striving to 2 be righteous...dats nt tru...remember christ likened d kingdom of God to as d story of the prodigal son who lost his way..so dat tells us dat been a son alone is nt it bt u hv to act like a son..so u beliving is nt enough bt u must act like a believer..dats y d bible said "let those dat nameth d name of d lord(believers) depart frm iniquity..philippians 2:12 says work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
and lastly 1cor 10:12 says wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. 2 Likes |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by JJOF(m): 4:28pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
In the times of the law, d jews carried out a sacrifice of atonement (i think once a year, cuz d validity of d atonement is basd on d age of d lamb, which must b 1yr old). After that year, they were to do it d next year, n evry other year. If some1 did dat sacrifice diz year, he will b saved (attain salvation), but if he fails to renew it at d appropriate time, the salvation expires, n d person bcums unclean, until dat sacrifice is per4md. So it would b right 4 us to say dat salvation den was temporal. But in our day, due to d fact dat d lamb usd 4 our sacrifice is ageless n eternal, our salvation is thus eternal. Based on this, it's true dat Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS). Bt lyk i said earlier, it is stil a possibility to loose ur salvation, n i'll xplain dat shortly. |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by Mrpojj(m): 4:28pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
There is currently a false gospel out there which says once you accept Jesus and you go back to sin, you will lose your salvation. They make is seem like you are the one who saved yourself, hence their talk of you losing your salvation. So many people believe in this garbage gospel which is leading them straight to hell fire. Such people have called God a liar.
The proponents of this counterfeit gospel love to use Judas Iscariot as an example that one can lose his salvation. But was Judas Iscariot ever saved? Let the Bible enlighten us on that. First of all, what is the criteria for having everlasting life? It is the believe in Jesus.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Remember what Paul and Silas told that prison keeper when he asked what he could do to be saved.
Acts 16:30-31
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
As seen above, the only way to be saved is by believing in Jesus as the saviour. Now, did Judas Iscariot believe in Jesus? No he didn't and wasn't the only disciple of Jesus who didn't believe in him (hope you know Jesus had other disciples asides the 12). Read the below passage to see how Jesus pointed them out including Judas Iscariot.
John 6:53-71
53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
As seen in verse 64, Jesus knew those disciples of his that believed not in him and the one who will betray him. In verse 65, many of such disciples left him and went their way because they didn't believe in him. This made Jesus to ask his special 12 disciples if they were also going to leave him.
John 6:67-71
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
Notice how Peter answered saying that they are staying with Jesus because they believe he has the words of ETERNAL LIFE and that they BELIEVE he is Christ the Son of God. Remember how John 3:16 said those who believe in Jesus have eternal life.
In Peter's mind all the 12 disciples believed in Jesus, but it wasn't so in the eyes of Jesus who knew one of them didn't believe in him. See what he said below.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
Clearly, Judas was never ever saved because he didn't believe in Jesus and he also was a devil as described by Jesus himself. So, for someone to sit somewhere and say Judas lost his salvation is the height of deceit.
Now, all those who believe they can lost their salvation are calling God a liar, and this clearly shows that they are not saved. They call God a liar by not believing in his record which he gave of his Son Jesus Christ.
1 John 5:10
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
You might say "oh, what is the record God gave of his Son?"
Just continue to the next verse because His stated what the record is.
1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
One thing you need to know is that the moment you accept Jesus as your saviour and you believe in him, you immediately get the holy spirit who is the witness seen in verse 10 above. Then you immediately get eternal or everlasting life. Even John 3:16 says the same thing.
Now, how are people calling God a liar? They call God a liar by not believing the record that God has given us eternal life. They believe once you sin after accepting Jesus, you immediately lose your salvation which means you have lost the eternal life God gave you for believing in Jesus. If they believe you can lose that eternal life, then was it ever eternal at all? Eternal life means never ending and this is fully achieved upon the resurrection, but you have it now. So if someone tells you you can lose your salvation, that person is saying God lied when he said he gave you eternal life for believing in his son. You have eternal life and you are not condemned because you believe in Jesus.
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 5:24]
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
All those who believe sin can make you lose your salvation are not trusting in Jesus who has come to save us from our sins. They are trusting in their works of righteousness to save them. They are clearly going to hell fire for rejecting Jesus and trying to save themselves. Works can't save you, it is only the grave of God through faith/believe in Jesus that can save you.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Christ has taken upon himself our sins and transfered his righteousness to us. That is why we are eternally saved regardless of whether we live holy or not.
1 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
The true gospel is so sweet and a good news because it states that even if you do no works of righteous but you believe in Jesus, you still will make heaven because your faith in God has made you righteous.
Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Brothers, if you have believed in the false doctrine that says you can lose your salvation, please now is the time to throw it away. Leave that false church which is selling that counterfeit gospel to you. Find a church which believes in eternal security, but first say the below prayer.
" Father, I believe your son Jesus Christ has come to save me from ny sins because I cannot save my save. I hold on to your word which says those who believe have eternal life. Accept me because I now believe in those words."..Amen. I get am b4 no be property you will work out ur salvation with fear and trembling 3 Likes |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by Newerakings(m): 4:30pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
This is indeed a laughable post
Jesus did not come to save us in sin but he came to save us from sin... how can you go back to where you have been saved from and expect to get the ultimate reward of Christianity...
the bible in Romans 6 v 1 and 2 says
1 KJV:What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 KJV:God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Further to this Roman 6 v 23 l amplify the consequences of sin when it said.
23KJV:For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
what this verse is saying is that the Devils gift to mankind is sin which leads to death while God's gift is eternal life... the question now is how can you have the gift of the devil and expect God's eternal life... this is impossible.
Have you ever asked why Jesus never sinned though he was tempted? that is because Jesus needed to set the example that it is possible to live above sin and it is expected that those who bear the name Christians which literally means Christ-Like suppose to live above sin just Jesus did and if for any reason a christian sins mistakenly or Knowingly he must repent from that sin before he can he gain eternal life or otherwise he will go to hell. God is no respecter of persons the Kingdom of God is not meat and drink or made for people who believe they can be Christians in sin.
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| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by OBAGADAFFI: 4:31pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
Who is without sin?
All are sinners and are doomed. But those who see Jesus as their saviour will be saved while those who don't believe in his work on the cross will be doomed because they are trusting in their own works to save them. Thats pure rejection of Jesus Christ. Wrong. It is, those who forsake their sins and accept Jesus as their saviour. What did Jesus tell the adulterous woman in bible? 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by Newerakings(m): 4:32pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
There is currently a false gospel out there which says once you accept Jesus and you go back to sin, you will lose your salvation. They make is seem like you are the one who saved yourself, hence their talk of you losing your salvation. So many people believe in this garbage gospel which is leading them straight to hell fire. Such people have called God a liar.
The proponents of this counterfeit gospel love to use Judas Iscariot as an example that one can lose his salvation. But was Judas Iscariot ever saved? Let the Bible enlighten us on that. First of all, what is the criteria for having everlasting life? It is the believe in Jesus.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Remember what Paul and Silas told that prison keeper when he asked what he could do to be saved.
Acts 16:30-31
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
As seen above, the only way to be saved is by believing in Jesus as the saviour. Now, did Judas Iscariot believe in Jesus? No he didn't and wasn't the only disciple of Jesus who didn't believe in him (hope you know Jesus had other disciples asides the 12). Read the below passage to see how Jesus pointed them out including Judas Iscariot.
John 6:53-71
53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
As seen in verse 64, Jesus knew those disciples of his that believed not in him and the one who will betray him. In verse 65, many of such disciples left him and went their way because they didn't believe in him. This made Jesus to ask his special 12 disciples if they were also going to leave him.
John 6:67-71
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
Notice how Peter answered saying that they are staying with Jesus because they believe he has the words of ETERNAL LIFE and that they BELIEVE he is Christ the Son of God. Remember how John 3:16 said those who believe in Jesus have eternal life.
In Peter's mind all the 12 disciples believed in Jesus, but it wasn't so in the eyes of Jesus who knew one of them didn't believe in him. See what he said below.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
Clearly, Judas was never ever saved because he didn't believe in Jesus and he also was a devil as described by Jesus himself. So, for someone to sit somewhere and say Judas lost his salvation is the height of deceit.
Now, all those who believe they can lost their salvation are calling God a liar, and this clearly shows that they are not saved. They call God a liar by not believing in his record which he gave of his Son Jesus Christ.
1 John 5:10
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
You might say "oh, what is the record God gave of his Son?"
Just continue to the next verse because His stated what the record is.
1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
One thing you need to know is that the moment you accept Jesus as your saviour and you believe in him, you immediately get the holy spirit who is the witness seen in verse 10 above. Then you immediately get eternal or everlasting life. Even John 3:16 says the same thing.
Now, how are people calling God a liar? They call God a liar by not believing the record that God has given us eternal life. They believe once you sin after accepting Jesus, you immediately lose your salvation which means you have lost the eternal life God gave you for believing in Jesus. If they believe you can lose that eternal life, then was it ever eternal at all? Eternal life means never ending and this is fully achieved upon the resurrection, but you have it now. So if someone tells you you can lose your salvation, that person is saying God lied when he said he gave you eternal life for believing in his son. You have eternal life and you are not condemned because you believe in Jesus.
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 5:24]
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
All those who believe sin can make you lose your salvation are not trusting in Jesus who has come to save us from our sins. They are trusting in their works of righteousness to save them. They are clearly going to hell fire for rejecting Jesus and trying to save themselves. Works can't save you, it is only the grave of God through faith/believe in Jesus that can save you.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Christ has taken upon himself our sins and transfered his righteousness to us. That is why we are eternally saved regardless of whether we live holy or not.
1 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
The true gospel is so sweet and a good news because it states that even if you do no works of righteous but you believe in Jesus, you still will make heaven because your faith in God has made you righteous.
Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Brothers, if you have believed in the false doctrine that says you can lose your salvation, please now is the time to throw it away. Leave that false church which is selling that counterfeit gospel to you. Find a church which believes in eternal security, but first say the below prayer.
" Father, I believe your son Jesus Christ has come to save me from ny sins because I cannot save my save. I hold on to your word which says those who believe have eternal life. Accept me because I now believe in those words."..Amen. This is indeed a laughable post Jesus did not come to save us in sin but he came to save us from sin... how can you go back to where you have been saved from and expect to get the ultimate reward of Christianity... the bible in Romans 6 v 1 and 2 says 1 KJV:What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 KJV:God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Further to this Roman 6 v 23 l amplify the consequences of sin when it said. 23KJV:For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. what this verse is saying is that the Devils gift to mankind is sin which leads to death while God's gift is eternal life... the question now is how can you have the gift of the devil and expect God's eternal life... this is impossible. Have you ever asked why Jesus never sinned though he was tempted? that is because Jesus needed to set the example that it is possible to live above sin and it is expected that those who bear the name Christians which literally means Christ-Like suppose to live above sin just Jesus did and if for any reason a christian sins mistakenly or Knowingly he must repent from that sin before he can he gain eternal life or otherwise he will go to hell. God is no respecter of persons the Kingdom of God is not meat and drink or made for people who believe they can be Christians in sin. I rise 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by AngelicBeing: 4:33pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
There is no salvation in Allah, Muhammad or Islam. Gbam  1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by Emmayen(m): 4:33pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
1 Corinthians 9:27 - But I discipline my body and bring it into
subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should
become disqualified. Even Paul knew that he himself might be
disqualified if he didn’t take care. Are we any different from him? 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by RealityShot: 4:34pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
There is currently a false gospel out there which says once you accept Jesus and you go back to sin, you will lose your salvation. They make is seem like you are the one who saved yourself, hence their talk of you losing your salvation. So many people believe in this garbage gospel which is leading them straight to hell fire. Such people have called God a liar.
The proponents of this counterfeit gospel love to use Judas Iscariot as an example that one can lose his salvation. But was Judas Iscariot ever saved? Let the Bible enlighten us on that. First of all, what is the criteria for having everlasting life? It is the believe in Jesus.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Remember what Paul and Silas told that prison keeper when he asked what he could do to be saved.
Acts 16:30-31
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
As seen above, the only way to be saved is by believing in Jesus as the saviour. Now, did Judas Iscariot believe in Jesus? No he didn't and wasn't the only disciple of Jesus who didn't believe in him (hope you know Jesus had other disciples asides the 12). Read the below passage to see how Jesus pointed them out including Judas Iscariot.
John 6:53-71
53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
As seen in verse 64, Jesus knew those disciples of his that believed not in him and the one who will betray him. In verse 65, many of such disciples left him and went their way because they didn't believe in him. This made Jesus to ask his special 12 disciples if they were also going to leave him.
John 6:67-71
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
Notice how Peter answered saying that they are staying with Jesus because they believe he has the words of ETERNAL LIFE and that they BELIEVE he is Christ the Son of God. Remember how John 3:16 said those who believe in Jesus have eternal life.
In Peter's mind all the 12 disciples believed in Jesus, but it wasn't so in the eyes of Jesus who knew one of them didn't believe in him. See what he said below.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
Clearly, Judas was never ever saved because he didn't believe in Jesus and he also was a devil as described by Jesus himself. So, for someone to sit somewhere and say Judas lost his salvation is the height of deceit.
Now, all those who believe they can lost their salvation are calling God a liar, and this clearly shows that they are not saved. They call God a liar by not believing in his record which he gave of his Son Jesus Christ.
1 John 5:10
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
You might say "oh, what is the record God gave of his Son?"
Just continue to the next verse because His stated what the record is.
1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
One thing you need to know is that the moment you accept Jesus as your saviour and you believe in him, you immediately get the holy spirit who is the witness seen in verse 10 above. Then you immediately get eternal or everlasting life. Even John 3:16 says the same thing.
Now, how are people calling God a liar? They call God a liar by not believing the record that God has given us eternal life. They believe once you sin after accepting Jesus, you immediately lose your salvation which means you have lost the eternal life God gave you for believing in Jesus. If they believe you can lose that eternal life, then was it ever eternal at all? Eternal life means never ending and this is fully achieved upon the resurrection, but you have it now. So if someone tells you you can lose your salvation, that person is saying God lied when he said he gave you eternal life for believing in his son. You have eternal life and you are not condemned because you believe in Jesus.
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 5:24]
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
All those who believe sin can make you lose your salvation are not trusting in Jesus who has come to save us from our sins. They are trusting in their works of righteousness to save them. They are clearly going to hell fire for rejecting Jesus and trying to save themselves. Works can't save you, it is only the grave of God through faith/believe in Jesus that can save you.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Christ has taken upon himself our sins and transfered his righteousness to us. That is why we are eternally saved regardless of whether we live holy or not.
1 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
The true gospel is so sweet and a good news because it states that even if you do no works of righteous but you believe in Jesus, you still will make heaven because your faith in God has made you righteous.
Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Brothers, if you have believed in the false doctrine that says you can lose your salvation, please now is the time to throw it away. Leave that false church which is selling that counterfeit gospel to you. Find a church which believes in eternal security, but first say the below prayer.
" Father, I believe your son Jesus Christ has come to save me from ny sins because I cannot save my save. I hold on to your word which says those who believe have eternal life. Accept me because I now believe in those words."..Amen. |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 4:35pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Newerakings:
This is indeed a laughable post
Jesus did not come to save us in sin but he came to save us from sin... how can you go back to where you have been saved from and expect to get the ultimate reward of Christianity...
the bible in Romans 6 v 1 and 2 says
1 KJV:What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 KJV:God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Further to this Roman 6 v 23 l amplify the consequences of sin when it said.
23KJV:For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
what this verse is saying is that the Devils gift to mankind is sin which leads to death while God's gift is eternal life... the question now is how can you have the gift of the devil and expect God's eternal life... this is impossible.
Have you ever asked why Jesus never sinned though he was tempted? that is because Jesus needed to set the example that it is possible to live above sin and it is expected that those who bear the name Christians which literally means Christ-Like suppose to live above sin just Jesus did and if for any reason a christian sins mistakenly or Knowingly he must repent from that sin before he can he gain eternal life or otherwise he will go to hell. God is no respecter of persons the Kingdom of God is not meat and drink or made for people who believe they can be Christians in sin.
I rise
How do you live above sin? |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by kindklemz(m): 4:38pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
THIS IS A SATANIC AGENT WITH A SATANIC MESSAGE TO DECEIVE THE ELECTS.
THERE IS NO SECURITY IN SALVATION. 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by Janosky: 4:39pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
Read the entire chapter of Mathew 24, you will see Jesus was talking about the period of the great tribulation. It has nothing to do with today's life.
Zephaniah spealsmof those who don't believe in Jesus which makes them unrighteous. Those who do are already righteous according to...
1 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him .U no know holy scriptures at all ! I refuse to join issues with you. Au revoir 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by Newerakings(m): 4:39pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Revelation 3 v 14 - 22
14
KJV:And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
15
KJV:I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16
KJV:So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17
KJV:Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18
KJV:I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy unclothedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19
KJV:As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20
KJV:Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21
KJV:To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
22
KJV:He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by rhektor(m): 4:40pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
Except a man be born agaim is different from repenting of sins. Being born again is the same as believing in Jesus. Repenting of sins is not writen I'm the Bible as a requirement for heaven. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Repentance is a requirement sir 2 Likes |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by Newerakings(m): 4:40pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
djon78:
How do you live above sin?
By the Grace of God 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by damocool(m): 4:45pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
According to the verse, these false teachers were once saved, but later missed the way to the extent of even denying the Lord whom his blood was shed for there redemption just like you're doing. I think you see clearly that there end is destruction. |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by ttmax09(m): 4:45pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Only babes in Christ can you decieve with this fake preaching. My bible tells me that only with holiness can you see God. So yes if you give ur life to christ and still fall into sin you risk losing ur salvation. Am beginning to suspect that u are that freeze of a guy teaching false doctrine 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by ttmax09(m): 4:48pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Lirqur:
Pfft, Even as a Muslim, i know if you don't continue to walk on the straight part, you'll lose your salvation.
There's a reason why you have to continually hold on to Allah/Ilah(God).
Salaam. Pls ignore the guy his teaching is fake and misleading. The bible makes it clear that only with holiness will u see God. 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by JJOF(m): 4:50pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
I've earlier xplaind y it's true dat once u re saved, u re forever saved. Bt b4 i move to xplain 4ther d possibility of loosing ur salvation, lemme make some points.
Once u re truly savd, u dnt nid 2 do anytin 2 renew ur salvation, bcuz d lamb usd 4 d atonement is an agesless, eternal lamb.
Also, u ve to understand dat there is a diff btw falling in sin, n living in sin (sometimes only god can differentiate 4rm both cuz d diff lies in d state of a man's hrt afta sinning). Lemme give a instance; John usd 2 b an unrepentant practitioner of masturbation he didn't care wat any has 2 say abt it, all he cares is dat he enjoys it. He has been in dis act 4 abt 8yrs now. One day, John attended a church service, n when d MOG was ministering, d Holy Spirit (HS) deeply convictd him, n John ended up sincerely accepting d life of christ. He afterwards took personal fellowship with god crious, studying his word n praying fervently. After a week, conji caught him, n den, he ended up masturbating. |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by MizyB(f): 4:51pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Lord Jesus, I thank you for the Eternal Security in you. Thank You Lord that I've been saved once by your great power and I'm saved forever! Glory to you forever Jesus. I thank you already lord that those who have all their lives believed what is not true about your saving grace, those who have believed you are all powerful, not just when it comes to securing the salvation of those you died for, those who have believed the same devil/sin that you've defeated in the grave can still snatch them away from you, I thank you lord that by your loving kindness, they'll someway somehow get to understand your plan through your word the actual way you intended from before the foundation of the world.. Thank you Lord Jesus...
To all of you who call God a liar by claiming a man sealed already with the holy spirit of God can be unsaved by the works of their hands, all I have to say is, when you eventually learn the truth about Christ's Love, Mercy, and Saving Grace, you won't know what hit you. 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by eph12(m): 4:52pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
Except a man be born agaim is different from repenting of sins. Being born again is the same as believing in Jesus. Repenting of sins is not writen I'm the Bible as a requirement for heaven. TF is this? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by damocool(m): 4:54pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
There is currently a false gospel out there which says once you accept Jesus and you go back to sin, you will lose your salvation. They make is seem like you are the one who saved yourself, hence their talk of you losing your salvation. So many people believe in this garbage gospel which is leading them straight to hell fire. Such people have called God a liar.
The proponents of this counterfeit gospel love to use Judas Iscariot as an example that one can lose his salvation. But was Judas Iscariot ever saved? Let the Bible enlighten us on that. First of all, what is the criteria for having everlasting life? It is the believe in Jesus.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Remember what Paul and Silas told that prison keeper when he asked what he could do to be saved.
Acts 16:30-31
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
As seen above, the only way to be saved is by believing in Jesus as the saviour. Now, did Judas Iscariot believe in Jesus? No he didn't and wasn't the only disciple of Jesus who didn't believe in him (hope you know Jesus had other disciples asides the 12). Read the below passage to see how Jesus pointed them out including Judas Iscariot.
John 6:53-71
53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
As seen in verse 64, Jesus knew those disciples of his that believed not in him and the one who will betray him. In verse 65, many of such disciples left him and went their way because they didn't believe in him. This made Jesus to ask his special 12 disciples if they were also going to leave him.
John 6:67-71
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
Notice how Peter answered saying that they are staying with Jesus because they believe he has the words of ETERNAL LIFE and that they BELIEVE he is Christ the Son of God. Remember how John 3:16 said those who believe in Jesus have eternal life.
In Peter's mind all the 12 disciples believed in Jesus, but it wasn't so in the eyes of Jesus who knew one of them didn't believe in him. See what he said below.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
Clearly, Judas was never ever saved because he didn't believe in Jesus and he also was a devil as described by Jesus himself. So, for someone to sit somewhere and say Judas lost his salvation is the height of deceit.
Now, all those who believe they can lost their salvation are calling God a liar, and this clearly shows that they are not saved. They call God a liar by not believing in his record which he gave of his Son Jesus Christ.
1 John 5:10
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
You might say "oh, what is the record God gave of his Son?"
Just continue to the next verse because His stated what the record is.
1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
One thing you need to know is that the moment you accept Jesus as your saviour and you believe in him, you immediately get the holy spirit who is the witness seen in verse 10 above. Then you immediately get eternal or everlasting life. Even John 3:16 says the same thing.
Now, how are people calling God a liar? They call God a liar by not believing the record that God has given us eternal life. They believe once you sin after accepting Jesus, you immediately lose your salvation which means you have lost the eternal life God gave you for believing in Jesus. If they believe you can lose that eternal life, then was it ever eternal at all? Eternal life means never ending and this is fully achieved upon the resurrection, but you have it now. So if someone tells you you can lose your salvation, that person is saying God lied when he said he gave you eternal life for believing in his son. You have eternal life and you are not condemned because you believe in Jesus.
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 5:24]
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
All those who believe sin can make you lose your salvation are not trusting in Jesus who has come to save us from our sins. They are trusting in their works of righteousness to save them. They are clearly going to hell fire for rejecting Jesus and trying to save themselves. Works can't save you, it is only the grave of God through faith/believe in Jesus that can save you.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Christ has taken upon himself our sins and transfered his righteousness to us. That is why we are eternally saved regardless of whether we live holy or not.
1 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
The true gospel is so sweet and a good news because it states that even if you do no works of righteous but you believe in Jesus, you still will make heaven because your faith in God has made you righteous.
Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Brothers, if you have believed in the false doctrine that says you can lose your salvation, please now is the time to throw it away. Leave that false church which is selling that counterfeit gospel to you. Find a church which believes in eternal security, but first say the below prayer.
" Father, I believe your son Jesus Christ has come to save me from ny sins because I cannot save my save. I hold on to your word which says those who believe have eternal life. Accept me because I now believe in those words."..Amen. 2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. Stop spreading false doctrine, don't bring destruction over urself, read and understand through the help of the Holy Spirit. There's no where in the Bible that supports ur doctrine of Satan.. 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by Jesus33: 4:57pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Brethren,the number 6 is the number of man, man was created on the 6th day.The manual of man which has 66 books is called the Bible. We are in the last days,when the Antichrist will add more 6 books to the Bible (this is how 666 comes about) claiming all religions lead to God but do not be deceived brethren, Jesus is the only way! So be ready for we are in the perilous times when the people of this world led by the Antichrist will try to implement their one religion and one world order!With the Holy Spirit still on earth,their plans won't be complete until our Saviour Jesus Christ comes to take we Saints that are on fire for the Lord.The Holy Spirit will be taken away from the earth with Saints of God for the plans of the Antichrist to be complete!Christians or Saints that were not on fire for Jesus will suffer the consequences till Jesus returns for those that endured.The time is now, rededicate your lives to Jesus Christ and follow his ways, ask for the Holy Spirit,ask for revelational knowledge and do the works of Jesus!Sinners,repent for Jesus loves you all,be a partaker in his Kingdom which is about to come not far away!We are in the last days! Everybody be ready and return to the Holy God in the name of His Holy Son Jesus the anointed One! Shalom! 1 Like |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by Omudia11: 4:57pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Joseph Prince the demonic heretic is eho you're listening to. I was an avid follower of his until I noticed the errors in his doctrines. djon78:
I was listening to Pastor Joseph Prince recently (in fact he is number 1 preacher I listen to) and he said that in the book of Acts the early apostles always said believe in the Lord Jesus and though shall be saved. Salvation is strictly believing in the Lord Jesus Christ, Romans 10 throws more light on it.
The reason why we have a very ineffective body of Christ is because of many wrong teachings that has been going on. And these teachings does not transform lives of people, but put people under so much bondages
As for this topic I agree to it. If people understand salvation, whom God is, His nature you will understand that God has loved us with everlasting love. God is not man. God doesn't condemn. In fact it is the goodness of God that brings us to repentance. |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by JJOF(m): 4:58pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
....CONTINUED....
Afta masturbating, he felt really bad of him self. Now, will u say dat John lost his salvation just bcuz he fell to his weakeness? Of course not (infact if rapture were to happen at that point, he will b rapturd). All John has to do is to go ask god 4 4giveness, n den continue 2 b deligent with personal fellowship. Though he might fall many times, as long as he continues in personal fellowship, asking god to strenghten him, he wil one day b victorious over his weakeness. |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by alBHAGDADI: 4:59pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
damocool:
2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Stop spreading false doctrine, don't bring destruction over urself, read and understand through the help of the Holy Spirit. There's no where in the Bible that supports ur doctrine of Satan.. The passage doesn't say they were saved. It only says they were aware of the knowledge of the truth which means they were preached to but rejected it and went back to their old ways. |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by NamelessOGBENI(m): 5:02pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Once Saved, Always Saved..
Now I understand but I still don't subscribe to this.. |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by nwaimoroseyaho: 5:02pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Op am sorry you don't make any sense. So you mean I can just believe in Jesus live my life as I want and make heaven?
I wonder who is mentoring you. Are you saying that Ananias and sapphira didn't lose their salvation.
Jesus said anyone that putteth his hand on the plough and look back is not fit for the kingdom.
Jesus said again in the parable of the sower, he said some seeds fell among the thorns and they died. He explained that some people gladly receive the word but when persecution arise and the cares of this word arise too they are offended and fall by the wayside.
One can gladly receive the word, but loose it because of persecution, the cares of this life and the cunning one Satan can mislead and steal.
In revelation Jesus told one of the seven churches, if you are neither hot nor cold I will spue you out of my mouth. Another church he said hold fast what you have lest another take it. Read revelation chapter 1,2 and 3. 2 Likes |
| Re: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 5:04pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Omudia11:
Joseph Prince the demonic heretic is eho you're listening to. I was an avid follower of his until I noticed the errors in his doctrines. Really well to each his own. But there is no preacher on the planet with deep understanding of the Bible than this man. I have done study on his teachings and they are deep, transformational. And moreover peoples life are transformed listening to him, deliverance from sin, dynamic healing testimony. |
