Flintstone06:


North will support the South westerner. Bad idea!

deji17:
There is no tension anywhere.

South West uses Bank APC, while South East Banks with PDP. At the end of the day, everyone will withdraw from his / her account.

Greatzeus:
Why should South East be concerned about 2023? Ain't they supporting Atiku? Won't he still be president then if he wins in 2019,or is it that deep down they don't really believe Atiku will win

OgaBuhari:
the issue here is who will the North support since majority of their votes will go a long way to seal victory for either of the two

Oshigun:
Why is it so hard for Igbos to grasp the central issue here? You show others you hate them and will take any chance to be unfair to them , as history vindicates with Igbos always happy to insult and kill the leaders of others while sparing their own, yet you expect them to make you their leader with total control over their lives?
Even on Nairaland, the first demand of Igbos after GEJ won elections in 2011 is that he must hurt and punish Yorubas.

What has changed to make Igbos look better in the eyes of other Nigerians? Instead it is worse today with the antics of Igbos over the past decade. Ethnocentric support for GEJ and Kanu/IPOB madness. Open and toxic hatred of Hausa/Fulani and Yorubas.

It is like a woman who deliberately sold her womb now insisting other must make sure she gets pregnant. Igbos are wasting their own time. They are only good to woo for votes by dubious politicians while the powers that be plot in the background to ensure they never rule. Even Atiku will not be allowed to hand over to Obigotry by the establishment.

The reality is that no one is willing, and for good reason, to trust Igbos with the Presidency for the next 2-3 decades at least. Maybe longer. Yorubas know that and this is why their leaders are aggressively laying claim to 2023. SS are not as distrusted as Igbos but they have had the Presidency through GEJ for 5 years. It is likely 100% SW Presidency in 2023 but 100% not Igbo.

hardeytarhyour:
APC should use SOUTH WEST region and PDP should use SOUTH EAST region

OgaBuhari:
the issue here is who will the North support since majority of their votes will go a long way to seal victory for either of the two

QuotaSystem:


There really is no issue here.

Who among either of the two supported the North in 2015 when it needed southern votes?

Who among the two have been staunch antagonists of Buhari (a northern political icon with millions of northern followers) since he emerged President?

Your answer to these questions determine the answer to your 'issue'.

Oshigun:


The North will never support Igbos because they feel that would be like commiting suicide. No one will support those who hate them to have power over their existence .

We are in more civilised times yet the North know that the physical cull of their leaders by Igbos in the past can be even more devastating if an Igbo-led economical cull happens today.

Igbos have form for favouring and defending their own above others while remaining ready to be unfair to others. No region will fear this in Nigeria more than the North where favourable link to the Federal government centre is crucial for survival.

QuotaSystem:


There really is no issue here.

Who among either of the two supported the North in 2015 when it needed southern votes?

Who among the two have been staunch antagonists of Buhari (a northern political icon with millions of northern followers) since he emerged President?

Your answer to these questions determine the answer to your 'issue'.

Vtrd:

This guy keep spouting more nonsense.
A Yoruba bigot speaking for the north.

The unfortunate thing is that by 2023 when everything has settled, we will no longer see this moniker on nairaland to taunt.

emmasege:
The most important discussion at the moment should be how to send that fossil back to his cattle in Daura.

We need to get Nigeria working first so that we all stay healthy and alive to 2023. Thereafter, we can talk about who gets what.

For me, I care less whether the president comes from my region or the east in 2023. All I want is good governance such that I'm able to live a good life, put food on the table for my family and fulfill God's purpose on Earth.

After all, OBJ's presidency or Osinbajo's vice presidency only benefits their families and friends, some of whom are not even from our tribe. An Obasanjo would rather help a Kwakwanso and an Osinbajo would rather help an Ngige than me. So, why vote for someone based on ethno-religious reason when he doesn't even know that I exist?

So in this election, I vote for a presidential candidate on a popular party structure. One who has adequate mental capacity for governance, a nationalist, a man who's known to be successful in his own personal life.

My PVC is already atikulated!!!

Vtrd:

Your Politics started in 2015.

If northern power brokers were like you, the rest of us would not be complaining.

It would been impossible for them to sustain their hegemony.

QuotaSystem:


What you've failed to understand is that current political trends determine voting patterns and not historical political trends.

As even a political novice would know, politics is all about interests and not permanent friends or enemies, and currently Northern political interests are better guarded with a SW presidency in 2023 than a SE one.

Oshigun:


Look, dispute what I have said with facts or bounce. If you know politics is about permanent interest then you will accept the Igbos have done far more than enough to scheme themselves out of consideration for ultimate power.

Alexis11:
This should not be hard at all.
Let one party bring his candidate from APC and another candidate from PDP.

It is the south Easterners that are saying that if a Yoruba man is coming out in any party, the other party should rather field a northerner because they believe the Northern candidate can defeat a Yoruba man while Easterner can not.

My questions are: Why giving up so early? why do Igbos prefer a northerner to their southern brothers?

Why do you love PDP so much and you want APC to hand over presidency to you??
Why is it hard to contest against a Yoruba man?

If PDP can not trust you guys enough with presidency, does it make sense for APC to trust you more than your darling PDP?

What exactly is your problem against the Yorubas when history shows that you guys are to blame for all your political miscalculations?

Well in my own view and with calculations on ground, I'm sure we will have another South South president in this country before any Igbo man.

Vtrd:

How?
4 years is better than 8 years?

You are talking out of your ass. APC is not northern interest.
Arewa is not endorsing a candidate for obvious reasons.

I don't even care about northern interests in first place anyway.
I don't see the point of arguing for northern interests.

Northern interests have never helped Nigeria.

QuotaSystem:


What you've failed to understand is that current political trends determine voting patterns and not historical political trends.

As even a political novice would know, politics is all about interests and not permanent friends or enemies, and currently Northern political interests are better guarded with a SW presidency in 2023 than a SE one.

QuotaSystem:


The level of your naivety is astounding .

Who is talking about an 8 year presidency captained by a renowned thief, looter and US fugitive? You think the North can ever be relegated from presidential power even with Osibanjo/Fashola/Anyone in power? Arewa is not endorsing a candidate because we know either way it swings our interests are protected.

We are talking about northern interests regarding the absolute stupidity of supporting an Ibo presidency, with regard to the hatred and bitterness the region holds and has been displaying against the North and its interests. "You don't care for northern interests"...lol how surprising(ly stupid for one who is counting on northern support for peter obi)

So you think we would give control of the military to people who hate us so much and are still bitter about the civil war? Not to talk of handing over power over the civil service & strategic developmental MDA's over to those who cannot wait to take their pound of flesh from the North and 'reverse the imbalances' in the system?

Just look through the thread on Jonathan's Marginalization of Yorubas to see the level of bile, hatred and vindictiveness you lot hold against your fellow southerners, not to talk of the North.

If you think Arewa is oblivious of your vindictive & hateful disposition towards the North (as exemplified by Cownu/ipob) and desperation to kiss Alhaji Atiku's arse just to access the corridors of power to implement it then you're clearly out of your mind.

QuotaSystem:


The level of your naivety is astounding .

Who is talking about an 8 year presidency captained by a renowned thief, looter and US fugitive? You think the North can ever be relegated from presidential power even with Osibanjo/Fashola/Anyone in power? Arewa is not endorsing a candidate because we know either way it swings our interests are protected.

We are talking about northern interests regarding the absolute stupidity of supporting an Ibo presidency, with regard to the hatred and bitterness the region holds and has been displaying against the North and its interests. "You don't care for northern interests"...lol how surprising(ly stupid for one who is counting on northern support for peter obi)

So you think we would give control of the military to people who hate us so much and are still bitter about the civil war? Not to talk of handing over power over the civil service & strategic developmental MDA's over to those who cannot wait to take their pound of flesh from the North and 'reverse the imbalances' in the system?

Just look through the thread on Jonathan's Marginalization of Yorubas to see the level of bile, hatred and vindictiveness you lot hold against your fellow southerners, not to talk of the North.

If you think Arewa is oblivious of your vindictive & hateful disposition towards the North (as exemplified by Cownu/ipob) and desperation to kiss Alhaji Atiku's arse just to access the corridors of power to implement it then you're clearly out of your mind.

Vtrd:

You honestly believe igbos will not be president soon?
If you are so worried about the prospect of igbo presidency, then you'd best pray for division because it will happen sooner or later.
We don't usually care about the presidency which is why it has lingered this long.
Regardless of the political party, the desire for an igbo presidency is reaching at a crescendo, and it will happen sooner than later.
Denying the second largest ethnic group in Nigeria the presidency is not feasible, and your leaders know it.
That is why the SGF and other northern apc are talking about igbo presidency in the hope that we support buhari.

And yes, I don't care about northern interests. There has never been a point in our history when northern interests ran along with Nigerian interests.
Nigeria is a global shitthole today because there is a north in it.
Take away north and our national socio economics become much better.
I am not running for the presidency. I don't have to pander to the North.
It is left for those running for the presidency to pander to northern interests. I am speaking as an electorate.

What is certain is that we cannot continue this way if we want any real development of which the north is in need more than the rest of Nigeria.
The system need to be rejiged. Meritocracy has to be entrenched.
If Nigeria continues this way, no problem, the igbos will not bear the brunt of it.
Our socio economics would still remain the highest in the country, whether you like it or not.
Politics is not our daily bread.

The last time I checked Jonathan was not an igbo man.
There were yorubas in his government far more than there are igbos now in this Yoruba dominated government.
So who is Marginalizing who? Or you just like the sound of your fingers when typing?
What did Jonathan do in the south east that he did not do in the south west?
Jonathan offers them the seat of house of reps leadership which they rejected.
Tinubu on the other hand has claimed everything under buhari and left the rest of the south in the lurch, and you believe that is feasible in the long run even if buhari wins?

If northern interests according to you is dependent on continued Yoruba patronage as the sole southern representative in the federal government, then your interests is built on thin air.
The Yoruba have never represented the south ever. The SS and SE(the major south) have never gone in the same direction as the SW in our history.

It will not stand in the long run and your leaders know it.

Oshigun:


My friend, politics is about permanent interests. If political Kingmakers feel an Igbo Presidency is not in their interest then it won't happen regardless of how right or just the agitation is. Might as well resurrect Bin Laden and make him American President. That is how ludicrous what you are suggesting is.

Yes it should happen but it wont't because of the golden rule of self-preservation in politics which force the best players to take a default position they feel best protects their safety, wellbeing and continous success.

That rules out an Igbo Presidency for many and until the ethnic group begin to act like they are Nigerians and not enemies within who will harm Nigerians as they did in the past and currently show a readiness to do again.

Vtrd:

You honestly believe igbos will not be president soon?
If you are so worried about the prospect of igbo presidency, then you'd best pray for division because it will happen sooner or later.
We don't usually care about the presidency which is why it has lingered this long.
Regardless of the political party, the desire for an igbo presidency is reaching at a crescendo, and it will happen sooner than later.
Denying the second largest ethnic group in Nigeria the presidency is not feasible, and your leaders know it.
That is why the SGF and other northern apc are talking about igbo presidency in the hope that we support buhari.

And yes, I don't care about northern interests. There has never been a point in our history when northern interests ran along with Nigerian interests.
Nigeria is a global shitthole today because there is a north in it.
Take away north and our national socio economics become much better.
I am not running for the presidency. I don't have to pander to the North.
It is left for those running for the presidency to pander to northern interests. I am speaking as an electorate.

What is certain is that we cannot continue this way if we want any real development of which the north is in need more than the rest of Nigeria.
The system need to be rejiged. Meritocracy has to be entrenched.
If Nigeria continues this way, no problem, the igbos will not bear the brunt of it.
Our socio economics would still remain the highest in the country, whether you like it or not.
Politics is not our daily bread.

The last time I checked Jonathan was not an igbo man.
There were yorubas in his government far more than there are igbos now in this Yoruba dominated government.
So who is Marginalizing who? Or you just like the sound of your fingers when typing?
What did Jonathan do in the south east that he did not do in the south west?
Jonathan offers them the seat of house of reps leadership which they rejected.
Tinubu on the other hand has claimed everything under buhari and left the rest of the south in the lurch, and you believe that is feasible in the long run even if buhari wins?

If northern interests according to you is dependent on continued Yoruba patronage as the sole southern representative in the federal government, then your interests is built on thin air.
The Yoruba have never represented the south ever. The SS and SE(the major south) have never gone in the same direction as the SW in our history.

It will not stand in the long run and your leaders know it.

emmasege:
The most important discussion at the moment should be how to send that fossil back to his cattle in Daura.

We need to get Nigeria working first so that we all stay healthy and alive to 2023. Thereafter, we can talk about who gets what.

For me, I care less whether the president comes from my region or the east in 2023. All I want is good governance such that I'm able to live a good life, put food on the table for my family and fulfill God's purpose on Earth.

After all, OBJ's presidency or Osinbajo's vice presidency only benefits their families and friends, some of whom are not even from our tribe. An Obasanjo would rather help a Kwakwanso and an Osinbajo would rather help an Ngige than me. So, why vote for someone based on ethno-religious reason when he doesn't even know that I exist?

So in this election, I vote for a presidential candidate on a popular party structure. One who has adequate mental capacity for governance, a nationalist, a man who's known to be successful in his own personal life.

My PVC is already atikulated!!!

Ningi2020:
If you don't know its because the understand that the north will never vote for a southeastern to be president

QuotaSystem:
All hot hair with zero substance.

How do you intend to make the ibo presidency happen? Have you embraced diplomacy? Do you have military capacity? So I am just supposed to accept it will happen because your ego told you so? Lol.

Fact check: My friend there hasn't been an ibo President in the last 50 years and heaven has not fallen...empty drums make the loudest noise.

In fact you're so politically handicapped to the point that if you ever produce a President in the next 50 years, be rest assured it will be on the North's terms (and will be an Arewa anointed Ibo candidate) for the simple fact that we have the numbers and political sagacity to do so.

QuotaSystem:

P.S - Lest i'm so bored with your next response into ignoring you, ensure you include the political capital the SE intends to ride on into power, I've had enough blue unicorn stories for one day.

Vtrd:

You are the one blowing hot air out of a sense of anti igbo bigotry.

What diplomacy are you talking about?

There are major igbo leaders in the apc as well as the pdp.
The likes of Nguge, onu, uzor kalu, the VON DG, Gov umahi are major igbo leaders representing the south east in the apc.

How are you going to convince those heavy hitters who are earnestly anticipating the presidency and have sacrificed the reputation for the apc cause?
Ogbonbaya onu was a founding member of the anpp which has collapsed into the apc.
Are you going to tell him his efforts were in vain?

Ngige and the VON DG screaming their voices hoarse over igbo presidency, how exactly are you going to pacify them?

Gov Umahi who I am sure have promised his state to buhari in a trade off for 2023, how exactly are you going to pacify him?
All the igbo heavy hitters who have sacrificed reputation for the apc, are they not playing diplomacy?
Why is Governor Willie obiano not supporting Peter obi his fellow anambra citizen at a risk to his reputation and legacy ? Is it not because of buhari 2019, in hope for igbo 2023?

Which other diplomacy are you looking for?

When the SGF promised the east the presidency in 2023, you think it came out of thin air?

Do you know the amount of diplomacy that have gone into that?

Aboki, you see what you want to see.