desiredhome:


Does your divine property mean you should contribute your life saving for one man to live large while you live in penury?
What is wrong with you African? You claim to be more blessed for giving to your pastorprenour, yet you are the poorest in the world. Despite all the natural resources? :'

I think I have replied you earlier, it's either you are one of the scammer or one of the blind follower of this con men that just want to argue.
Stop living in illusions, face the real fact.

Until the Church have positive impact to the society, they are serving their belly not God

The housing estate you are talking about that you and over half of your members can't live in? Does Oyedepo know if people like you exist?

It's like you just learnt of emotional that is why you keep saying emotional while the facts are there.

What you people are good at is suffering and smiling

May God deliver you from these Pentecostal cabals

Hebrew 11:4 . Abel had a more excellent seed by reason of faith. If any believer is giving for the sake of making Oyedepo or Adeboye rich and then expecting them to in return give his seed, multiplied, back to him, then that person is at fault and not the pastors.
Let me ask you another question since you cannot answer the one I have asked so far. What if the seeds were never used to build a school or housing estate and it was being shared to needy fellows, will it be appropriate in your own opinion if the poor givers you are advocating for queued for assistance knowing that they gave part of the seeds being shared?

desiredhome:


Does your divine property mean you should contribute your life saving for one man to live large while you live in penury?

What is wrong with you African? You claim to be more blessed for giving to your pastorprenour, yet you are the poorest in the world. Despite all the natural resources? :'

I think I have replied you earlier, it's either you are one of the scammer or one of the blind follower of this con men that just want to argue.
Stop living in illusions, face the real fact.

Until the Church have positive impact to the society, they are serving their belly not God


The housing estate you are talking about that you and over half of your members can't live in? Does Oyedepo know if people like you exist?

It's like you just learnt of emotional that is why you keep saying emotional while the facts are there.

What you people are good at is suffering and smiling

May God deliver you from these Pentecostal cabals

What about Muslims who don't give to their imams like Christians do for their pastors? Why are they poorer?
You are subtly trying to incite Christians against their leaders by coming up with these funny arguments.


@the underlined, Covenant is already the highest ranking Nigerian school. it gives scholarship to the poor and admits the best of the rest so what are you saying? The church also has welfare schemes to widows, orphans and the poor, they have health center, they have many aids or charity outreach covering many nations of the earth so what is the work of the government that has limitless resources if Oyedepo is suppose to cater for everybody? Use your brain more pal. Life doesn't start and end with ones belly.

CodeTemplar:


What about Muslims who don't give to their imams like Christians do for their pastors? Why are they poorer?
You are subtly trying to incite Christians against their leaders by coming up with these funny arguments.


@the underlined, Covenant is already the highest ranking Nigerian school. it gives scholarship to the poor and admits the best of the rest so what are you saying? The church also has welfare schemes to widows, orphans and the poor, they have health center, they have many aids or charity outreach covering many nations of the earth so what is the work of the government that has limitless resources if Oyedepo is suppose to cater for everybody? Use your brain more pal. Life doesn't start and end with ones belly.

An average Muslims that I know are not as greedy as these pastor worshippers, they are more contented, how many Muslim have you seen claiming God have called him and start opening his private mosque here and there? Don't just go there.
I am not inciting Christians against their leaders but that the supposed Christian leader to do the work of God so that life will be better for you and me, and and indeed a better society, not to create more poverty with their fake hope (illusion)

When you give scholarship to one out of a thousand or more is like you've done nothing. There are more poor people in the local needing help.
Rather than sending over 70% of income from their different franchise all over Nigeria to national, why not create an avenue whereby more of the income can take care of the needy in the local.
Maybe the welfare scheme only exist on paper or very insignificant.
He can't take care of everyone but when he does his bit, and others do, our country will be great.
Nigeria is too rich to be poor

CodeTemplar:
Hebrew 11:4 . Abel had a more excellent seed by reason of faith. If any believer is giving for the sake of making Oyedepo or Adeboye rich and then expecting them to in return give his seed, multiplied, back to him, then that person is at fault and not the pastors.
Let me ask you another question since you cannot answer the one I have asked so far. What if the seeds were never used to build a school or housing estate and it was being shared to needy fellows, will it be appropriate in your own opinion if the poor givers you are advocating for queued for assistance knowing that they gave part of the seeds being shared?

I think you lack understanding of what the Church is or the purpose of the Church,

desiredhome:


I think you lack understanding of what the Church is or the purpose of the Church,

I find your dodging of questions weak and consider it a escape tactic.
Simple question you can't answer with all your "understanding of what the church is and its purposes are".

desiredhome:


An average Muslims that I know are not as greedy as these pastor worshippers, they are more contented, how many Muslim have you seen claiming God have called him and start opening his private mosque here and there? Don't just go there.
I am not inciting Christians against their leaders but that the supposed Christian leader to do the work of God so that life will be better for you and me, and and indeed a better society, not to create more poverty with their fake hope (illusion)

When you give scholarship to one out of a thousand or more is like you've done nothing. There are more poor people in the local needing help.
Rather than sending over 70% of income from their different franchise all over Nigeria to national, why not create an avenue whereby more of the income can take care of the needy in the local.
Maybe the welfare scheme only exist on paper or very insignificant.
He can't take care of everyone but when he does his bit, and others do, our country will be great.
Nigeria is too rich to be poor

Again you are dodging questions and churning out irrelevant epistles.
You claimed giving to pastors has made us poverty capital but I pointed out to you how the poorest regions within Nigeria are the ones that don't practice what you are blaming for our poverty status, and you go on another unrelated epistle. Please answer questions directly or stop disturbing me with your illogical and emotional outbursts.

generationz:


Before you criticize a system make sure you make an effort to become a part of it and observe from within
You people will willingly take student loans , work several jobs etc just to get a degree from Yale , Harvard or some backwater university in the UK where they use the money from African students for their own students.

Stop acting like you have the best interest of the so called poor at heart , you know nothing about how that school is run and when someone who was a part of the system is trying to educate you, you scream nonsense.

Your federal government schools that are affordable for the poor are nothing to write home about . Despite the fact that these schools are funded from taxes generates from the poor an average government universitys merit list has the names of lecturers and politicians kids first before your own children will dream of it.
Despite funding from taxes and it being affordable for the poor we dilapidated structures , overcrowded classrooms and hostels, outdated lecture notes , lecturers who act like gods etc.

Despite being in a third world country that seems to be going backward cannanland and the entire ministry is one of the most structured I have seen in Nigeria.

There has never been power outage in cannanland since it was dedicated in 1999. It doesn't use phcn but internally generated gas power plants unlike your country that has been battling power issues since 1960.

How that church is run still baffles me sometimes, it is an obvious miracle.

It isn't run on taxes which are expected to be regular but on tithes.

You really think everyone pays tithes and offerings.

How many high income earners even attend the church.
Remember tithe is 10% of once a month . unlike many pastors I ha e never seen oyedepo raise seed offering and trust me I have been to many churches where pastors frustrate their members with sowing money for miracles and seed offerings .

Like I said earlier how that church is run without any hitch is a miracle to me. Despite massive looting , yes I said massive looting within the system by members of administration, pastors and those in charge of accounts that church still manages to stand.

Do you know that there was a system set up to give very poor members 50k and 20k (depending on your need ) to start a business of your choice.
Do you know that that initiative was frustrated by fraudulent practises of pastors within the system and many poor people who come back 10 times to collect money with many different stories.

What of the free bus rides provided for church members nko? greedy drivers , greedy pastors destroyed it.

Before you criticize a system be part of it first and see how its run

Before you criticize a man walk a mile in his shoes first and see how it pinches.

I have an assignment for you - as you have taken time out to be a freedom fighter and cry out for the poor I hope you also take out time and money to care for the poor people in your community. Unless you have no case

Hello... Stop defending fraud here. The truth is that Oyedepo is not helping anybody... He is simply doing Education business because is profitable.... He got bills to pay and worker to pay... Nobody run Education on charity.

Ask yourself simple question, does he open the school for the church member? I don't thinks so.

You like it or not, he is doing business... Simple.

CodeTemplar:
Again you are dodging questions and churning out irrelevant epistles.
You claimed giving to pastors has made us poverty capital but I pointed out to you how the poorest regions within Nigeria are the ones that don't practice what you are blaming for our poverty status, and you go on another unrelated epistle. Please answer questions directly or stop disturbing me with your illogical and emotional outbursts.

If you can't get anything out of my earlier posts then I think you lack the mental capacity to comprehend this topic.
Summary of it is you get poorer/become slave to these pastorprenours when you give to them knowing that they are not doing the work of God, but to enrich themself.
#Stopworshipingpastors. I think I'm done with you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4hRE73b5rs

Goshen360:


What in the world are you talking about? When a man does good, he will be commended for it and no one hating on Oyedepo and his contribution to the community but just make it AFFORDABLE TO THE AVERAGE MEMBERS SO MAJORITY CAN ATTEND PLUS AND STILL GIVE OUT SCHOLARSHIPS TO THOSE WHO NEED IT BECAUSE U CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME.

And you don't have to be ashamed of me because I don't carry shame neither do I say or do shameful things, you just can't deal with truth because you made Oyedepo your god that can't be touched or spoken against.

Wait bros I have gotten your tricks,stop pretending you're agitating for the average members who's not even complaining. Your aim is for school got down the tuition and bill for the rent do you could bring your adulterous and evil children to corrupt the moral standard of the institution. So if you must benefits from this moral standard of living/learning, you must pay with your sweat else you can send anyway, if there are committed, they'll still give you what you want from them

Church wahala. I am interested in who will help my brother in Newyork oooo. I need help ooooooo. I will reciprocate when the person visit Abuja. Goshen360 with due respect ,you are in Newyork can you help out. I can see you are rooted in things of God ,pls my brother rooted too. Pls can we chat . My email is itdproject@yahoo.com

jennifer76:
Church wahala. I am interested in who will help my brother in Newyork oooo. I need help ooooooo. I will reciprocate when the person visit Abuja. Goshen360 with due respect ,you are in Newyork can you help out. I can see you are rooted in things of God ,pls my brother rooted too. Pls can we chat . My email is itdproject@yahoo.com

What does your brother need help for. I sent you an email