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Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 6:24pm On Jan 15, 2019
This is more astounding RUBBISH from the new testament. Jesus saying one thing and doing another. Was Jesus schizophrenic ?

Here are a few examples :

Jesus command : - and whoever says, “You fool!” will be liable to the hell of fire. (Matthew 5:21–22, ESV)
Jesus disobedience : - "You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred? " - Matthew 23:17

Jesus statement : - “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? For God said: ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’
Jesus disobedience : "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26
Jesus saith unto her, Woman ( His mother ) , what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come. (John 2:4)


Jesus command ; "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you," - Matthew 5:44
Jesus disobedience : "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'" - Luke 19:27

Jesus command ; And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you. (Leviticus 11:7-8 )
Jesus disobedience : "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean." ) Mark 7:18

Jesus command ; Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place : for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. (Matthew 26:52)
Jesus disobedience ; Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. (Matthew 10:34)

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Redoil: 6:29pm On Jan 15, 2019
Do you understand the meaning of "contextual" or "allegory" Oh well we all have eyes but see differently

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 6:34pm On Jan 15, 2019
Redoil:
Do you understand the meaning of "contextual" or "allegory"
Oh well we all have eyes but see differently

Where in the bible is there a reference to this your "contextual" or "allegory" concept as it pertains to these statements ?

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 6:35pm On Jan 15, 2019
Before I start tackling your stupidity number one Jesus is a God and not a man like you in the book of Isaiah its says for my ways are higher than your ways and so are my thoughts
Jesus defined a fool as someone who doesn't believe there is God... Your so called disobedience was used in another context.
Then you referring to Jesus saying honor your father and your mother and the same time said you should hate your mother and father meant you should put the things of God first before your family that does not mean u should hate them DUMBO!!!!

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Redoil: 6:38pm On Jan 15, 2019
frosbel2:


Where in the bible is there a reference to this your "contextual" or "allegory" concept as it pertains to these statements ?
we all look but see differently
Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 6:41pm On Jan 15, 2019
kingemzy5:
Before I start tackling your stupidity number one Jesus is a God and not a man like you in the book of Isaiah its says for my ways are higher than your ways and so are my thoughts
Jesus defined a fool as someone who doesn't believe there is God... Your so called disobedience was used in another context.
Then you referring to Jesus saying honor your father and your mother and the same time said you should hate your mother and father meant you should put the things of God first before your family that does not mean u should hate them DUMBO!!!!

I am not surprised about your insults , after all your STUPID JESUS who is supposed to be LOVE , said this to a sick woman ;

"But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” And he answered, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” - Matthew 15:21–28

So much for your meek and humble Jesus - r.etard !! cheesy

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 6:41pm On Jan 15, 2019
The Luke 19 vs 27 means those people who refused God are his enemies
Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by HappyPagan: 6:41pm On Jan 15, 2019
kingemzy5:
Before I start tackling your stupidity number one Jesus is a God and not a man like you...
Gods are overrated in my opinion.

That Jewish God died from nail wounds... Even 50 Cent survived 9 bullets.....

grin

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by HappyPagan: 6:43pm On Jan 15, 2019
kingemzy5:
The Luke 19 vs 27 means those people who refused God are his enemies
The ruler of the world, author of time, the owner of the past and future, making enemies of his creation...

Jesus' father had serious issues... Maybe that's what happens when you have no parents...



Not even a virgin Mom.

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by HappyPagan: 6:44pm On Jan 15, 2019
Redoil:
we all look but see differently
What's your point?
Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 6:46pm On Jan 15, 2019
frosbel2:


I am not surprised about your insults , after all your STUPID JESUS who is supposed to be LOVE , said this to a sick woman ;

"But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” And he answered, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” - Matthew 15:21–28

So much for your meek and humble Jesus - r.etard !! cheesy
Please stop talking like a stack illiterate dawg if you know the bible you won't be talking like this

A Canaanite woman cries out to Jesus to heal her daughter. By the end of the story, her daughter has been healed — but between the crying and the healing, Jesus says some terrible things. He’s arrogant, racist and just plain mean.

We may believe that Jesus was “truly human,” but we don’t want him to be too human. So over the years, people have tried to clean up this story. One attempt goes something like this: Jesus was testing this woman to see if she had enough faith. When she passed the test, Jesus said, “Woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you wish.” That verse has caused plenty of pain because some people have heard Jesus saying, “If you had more faith your husband or wife, your mother or father or child would not have died.” But the woman in this story doesn’t make any confession of faith.

Here’s another option to soften Jesus’ words: the Greek word kunarios (translated “dogs”) really means “little dogs, puppies.” So when Jesus tells the woman, “It is not fair to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs,” he really means puppies. Does that help? There’s one more possibility. Because this woman submits to Jesus and kneels before him, Jesus heals her daughter. Go thou and do likewise. We’ll do almost anything to make Jesus who we want him to be.

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jan 15, 2019
^^^

Jesus meant PUPPIES and not DOG ?? grin

And does it matter if it was a large dog or a small dog ?

You really are a lost soul

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 6:51pm On Jan 15, 2019
HappyPagan:

Gods are overrated in my opinion.

That Jewish God died from nail wounds... Even 50 Cent survived 9 bullets.....

grin
Because you are a happy fool doesn't mean you should say ills about your creator God isn't a man that you can cajole with stay away from insult if u don't want ur life to be like a wretched being

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Blakjewelry(m): 6:51pm On Jan 15, 2019
na laugh carry me come here
Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 6:52pm On Jan 15, 2019
HappyPagan:

The ruler of the world, author of time, the owner of the past and future, making enemies of his creation...

Jesus' father had serious issues... Maybe that's what happens when you have no parents...



Not even a virgin Mom.
Like seriously if you live to see Friday quote me and call me a bastard!!!

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jan 15, 2019
kingemzy5:

Like seriously if you live to see Friday quote me and call me a bastard!!!

Typical deluded Jesus follower, as crazy as his Master Jesus.

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by OpenYourEyes1: 6:59pm On Jan 15, 2019
frosbel2:

Jesus command ; "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you," - Matthew 5:44
Jesus disobedience : "But those
enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them-- bring them here and kill them in front of me.'" - Luke 19:27

This is parable. Stop misquoting the KING of kings!

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by alBHAGDADI: 7:06pm On Jan 15, 2019
frosbel2:
This is more astounding RUBBISH from the new testament. Jesus saying one thing and doing another. Was Jesus schizophrenic ?

Here are a few examples :

Jesus command : - and whoever says, “You fool!” will be liable to the hell of fire. (Matthew 5:21–22, ESV)
Jesus disobedience : - "You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred? " - Matthew 23:17

Jesus statement : - “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? For God said: ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’
Jesus disobedience : "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26
Jesus saith unto her, Woman ( His mother ) , what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come. (John 2:4)


Jesus command ; "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you," - Matthew 5:44
Jesus disobedience : "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'" - Luke 19:27

Jesus command ; And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you. (Leviticus 11:7-8 )
Jesus disobedience : "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean." ) Mark 7:18

Jesus command ; Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place : for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. (Matthew 26:52)
Jesus disobedience ; Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. (Matthew 10:34)

First and foremost, Jesus is Lord above all. He's not subject to his own laws, that's why he was able to change the dietary law.

As for Mathew 10:34 had it been you read further, you would have see. what he meant by bringing a sword. But a blind bat like you won't do that.

Jesus clearly stated that if your father and mother are making you disobey God, then you should move on without them. He simply meant that we shouldn't let anything prevent us from God, not even ourselves.

As for enemies, did Jesus not love his enemies, all their who killed him? But there's time for everything. He was simply giving a parable when he spoke about killing his enemies. And yes that parable will come to pass when he returns and kill atheists and Satanists like you who reject him.

Can we all see the kind of people telling you all not to pay tithe? Frosbel is one of them.

When they make such statement, gullible people think they are fellow Christians without knowing that they are Satanists who want to deprive the gospel from being engineered with money.

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by alBHAGDADI: 7:09pm On Jan 15, 2019
frosbel2:

Typical deluded Jesus follower, as crazy as his Master Jesus.
Look at the statement from one of those telling people to stop paying tithe.

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 7:15pm On Jan 15, 2019
OpenYourEyes1:


This is parable. Stop misquoting the KING of kings!

So which one is the command ,and which one is the parable.
Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by OpenYourEyes1: 7:31pm On Jan 15, 2019
frosbel2:


So which one is the command ,and which one is the parable.

Read "The Parable of the Golden coins." (Luke 19:11—27)

Do not misquote the scripture like the six blind men describing an elephant based on their limited experience.

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by HappyPagan: 7:41pm On Jan 15, 2019
kingemzy5:

Because you are a happy fool doesn't mean you should say ills about your creator God ..

Lol. The Gods are nothing but pencils in my hand, even Jesus, that dead Jew...

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by HappyPagan: 7:42pm On Jan 15, 2019
kingemzy5:

Like seriously if you live to see Friday quote me and call me a bastard!!!
You are a bastard already. See you on Saturday. grin

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Oshin56(m): 8:10pm On Jan 15, 2019
frosbel2:


I am not surprised about your insults , after all your STUPID JESUS who is supposed to be LOVE , said this to a sick woman ;

"But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” And he answered, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” - Matthew 15:21–28

So much for your meek and humble Jesus - r.etard !! cheesy



please did Jesus Christ offended you

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by malvisguy212: 8:52pm On Jan 15, 2019
frosbel2:


Where in the bible is there a reference to this your "contextual" or "allegory" concept as it pertains to these statements ?
lol. I laugh at your ignorance. you cannot randomly quote Bible verses and mix the context and call it contradiction. same mentality Muslims have with the Bible.

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Originakalokalo(m): 9:46pm On Jan 15, 2019
You glory in ignorance..... and it is hurting you....

I have decided not to respond to you anymore...

You are not far from God's Judgement.....and it is knocking at your door.

I will advise you to seek God's face of mercy before it is too late.

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Blakjewelry(m): 10:12pm On Jan 15, 2019
kingemzy5:

Like seriously if you live to see Friday quote me and call me a bastard!!!
I dey watch, Friday no far. if the guy no die as in if the guy post anything on Sunday you know the deal

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by malvisguy212: 10:12pm On Jan 15, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


Look at the statement from one of those telling people to stop paying tithe.
he is an atheist.

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Blakjewelry(m): 10:18pm On Jan 15, 2019
alBHAGDADI:


First and foremost, Jesus is Lord above all. He's not subject to his own laws, that's why he was able to change the dietary law.

As for Mathew 10:34 had it been you read further, you would have see. what he meant by bringing a sword. But a blind bat like you won't do that.

Jesus clearly stated that if your father and mother are making you disobey God, then you should move on without them. He simply meant that we shouldn't let anything prevent us from God, not even ourselves.

As for enemies, did Jesus not love his enemies, all their who killed him? But there's time for everything. He was simply giving a parable when he spoke about killing his enemies. And yes that parable will come to pass when he returns and kill atheists and Satanists like you who reject him.

Can we all see the kind of people telling you all not to pay tithe? Frosbel is one of them.

When they make such statement, gullible people think they are fellow Christians without knowing that they are Satanists who want to deprive the gospel from being engineered with money.
Lol the part were he will come back and kill all atheist got me laughing. but why kill somebody because he refuses to serve you, and how is that one different from average vengeful human

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Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 10:35pm On Jan 15, 2019
malvisguy212:
lol. I laugh at your ignorance. you cannot randomly quote Bible verses and mix the context and call it contradiction. same mentality Muslims have with the Bible.

Well what do you call it if not blatant contradictions ?? Oh lets, see, you need the spirit to understand the contradictions - cheesy

Hogwash
Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 10:36pm On Jan 15, 2019
malvisguy212:
he is an atheist.

No - a Deist / Well at least for now cool
Re: Teachings Of Jesus That Jesus Disobeyed by Nobody: 10:37pm On Jan 15, 2019
OpenYourEyes1:


This is parable. Stop misquoting the KING of kings!

King of kings in your world of hallucinations.

A king of king who has made so many false prophecies and cannot bring peace to earth or alleviate the pain of this followers. King of kings indeed.

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